Do schools kill creativity? | Sir Ken Robinson

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2007-01-07 ・ TED


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Do schools kill creativity? | Sir Ken Robinson

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Translator: Shadia Ramsahye Reviewer: Ameerah Arjanee
Bonzour. Ki manier?
00:27
Good morning. How are you?
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00:29
(Audience) Good.
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(Riye)
Tousala extra, non?
00:31
It's been great, hasn't it?
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00:33
I've been blown away by the whole thing.
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Mo mem mo sou lemosion.
00:35
In fact, I'm leaving.
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Ofet, mo bizin ale.
00:37
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
00:43
There have been three themes running through the conference,
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Trwa tem finn revini dan sa konferans la
00:46
which are relevant to what I want to talk about.
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ki an rapor avek saki mo anvi koze.
00:48
One is the extraordinary evidence of human creativity
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Premie, se sa prev extraordiner de kreativite
00:53
in all of the presentations that we've had
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dan tou bann prezantasion ki nounn gete
00:55
and in all of the people here;
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ek dan tou bann dimounn ki isi.
00:57
just the variety of it and the range of it.
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Nek get sa kalite variete la.
01:01
The second is that it's put us in a place
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Deziem zafer, sa met nou dan enn sitiasion
01:03
where we have no idea what's going to happen
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kot nou pa kone ki kapav arive
01:05
in terms of the future.
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dan lefitir.
01:07
No idea how this may play out.
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Aukenn lide kouma tousala kapav deroule.
01:10
I have an interest in education.
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Mo interese dan ledikasion.
01:11
Actually, what I find is, everybody has an interest in education.
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Ofet, mo trouve ki tou dimounn interese ek ledikasion.
01:16
Don't you?
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Pa ou?
01:17
I find this very interesting.
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Mo trouv sa bien interesan.
Kan ou dan enn dine,
01:19
If you're at a dinner party, and you say you work in education --
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ek ou dir ki ou travay dan ledikasion --
ofet, ou pa tro souvan invite a bann dine.
01:23
actually, you're not often at dinner parties, frankly.
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01:25
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
01:29
If you work in education, you're not asked.
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Si ou travay dan ledikasion, personn napa invit ou.
01:32
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
01:35
And you're never asked back, curiously. That's strange to me.
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Ousua personn pa reinvit ou. Mo trouv sa bien etranz.
01:39
But if you are, and you say to somebody,
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Si samem ou ka, ek ou dir sa kikenn, ou kone,
01:41
you know, they say, "What do you do?"
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zot dimande, "Ki ou fer dan lavi?",
01:43
and you say you work in education,
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ek ou reponn ki ou dan ledikasion,
01:45
you can see the blood run from their face.
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ou trouv disan desann depi zot figir.
01:47
They're like, "Oh my God. Why me?"
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Zot pense, "Ayo bondie, kifer mwa?"
01:48
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
01:51
"My one night out all week."
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"Sel zour mo sorti sa semenn la."
01:52
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
01:55
But if you ask about their education, they pin you to the wall,
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Si ou poz zot kestion lor ledikasion, zot irite.
01:58
because it's one of those things that goes deep with people, am I right?
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Parski se enn size bien sansib pou dimounn, pa vre?
02:02
Like religion and money and other things.
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Kouma relizion ek larzan.
02:05
So I have a big interest in education, and I think we all do.
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Alor mo bien interese ek ledikasion, ek mo panse ki nou tou interese.
Nou ena enn gran lintere ladan
02:10
We have a huge vested interest in it,
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02:11
partly because it's education that's meant to take us into this future
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an parti parski se ledikasion ki sipoze gid nou dan sa fitir
02:15
that we can't grasp.
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ki nou pa ankor konpran la.
02:16
If you think of it,
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Si ou reflesi, bann zanfan ki pe koumans lekol sa lane la
02:18
children starting school this year will be retiring in 2065.
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pou pran zot retret an 2065.
02:25
Nobody has a clue,
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Personn pa kone,
02:26
despite all the expertise that's been on parade for the past four days,
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malgre tou sa lexpertiz ki nounn finn trouve sa kat dernie zour la,
02:30
what the world will look like in five years' time.
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ki lemond pou resanble dan sink an.
02:33
And yet, we're meant to be educating them for it.
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Me nou sipoze edik zot pu fer fas sa lemond la.
02:35
So the unpredictability, I think, is extraordinary.
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Sa inprediktabilite la, li extraordiner.
02:37
And the third part of this is that we've all agreed, nonetheless,
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Troiziem zafer
lor ki nou tou dakor
02:41
on the really extraordinary capacities that children have --
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seki bann zanfan ena bann kapasite extraordiner --
02:46
their capacities for innovation.
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bann kapasite pou inove.
02:49
I mean, Sirena last night was a marvel, wasn't she?
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Yer, Sirena ti extra, pa vre?
02:51
Just seeing what she could do.
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Dan nek gete ki li kapav fer.
02:53
And she's exceptional, but I think she's not, so to speak,
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Li li exsepsionel, me mo pa panse
ki li exsepsionel parmi tou bann zanfan.
02:59
exceptional in the whole of childhood.
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Se zis enn dimounn avek enn dedikasion extraordiner
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What you have there is a person of extraordinary dedication
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03:04
who found a talent.
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ki finn trouv so talan.
03:06
And my contention is, all kids have tremendous talents,
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Ek mwa mo dir ki tou zanfan ena bann gran talan,
03:08
and we squander them, pretty ruthlessly.
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me nou gaspiy sa san aukenn pitie.
Alor, mo anvi koz lor ledikasion
03:11
So I want to talk about education,
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03:13
and I want to talk about creativity.
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ek mo anvi koz lor kreativite.
03:14
My contention is that creativity now is as important in education as literacy,
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Mo konba se ki kreativite zordizour bizin osi inportan ki alfabetism
ek ki nou bizin tret li avek mem linportans.
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and we should treat it with the same status.
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03:23
(Applause)
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(Aplodisman) Mersi.
03:24
Thank you.
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(Aplodisman)
03:26
(Applause)
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03:30
That was it, by the way. Thank you very much.
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Bon, samem tou.
Mersi bokou.
03:32
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
03:34
So, 15 minutes left.
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Mo res 15 minit.
03:36
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
03:39
"Well, I was born ... "
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Alor, monn ne -- non.
03:41
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
Monn fek tann enn zoli zistwar ek mo kontan rerakont li.
03:45
I heard a great story recently -- I love telling it --
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of a little girl who was in a drawing lesson.
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Li lor enn tifi dan enn klas desin.
03:50
She was six, and she was at the back, drawing,
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Li ena sizan ek pe asiz derier, pe desine.
03:52
and the teacher said this girl hardly ever paid attention,
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So profeser dir ki zame li atentiv
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and in this drawing lesson, she did.
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sof dan klas desin.
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The teacher was fascinated.
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Profeser la inn fasine.
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She went over to her, and she said, "What are you drawing?"
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Alor linn al dimann li, "Ki to pe desine?"
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And the girl said, "I'm drawing a picture of God."
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Tifi la reponn, "Mo pe desinn bondie."
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And the teacher said, "But nobody knows what God looks like."
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Profeser dir, "Me personn napa kone bondie kouma resanble."
04:07
And the girl said, "They will in a minute."
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Li reponn, "Zot pou kone dan enn ti moman."
04:10
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
04:21
When my son was four in England --
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Kan mo garson ti ena katran dan Langleter --
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actually, he was four everywhere, to be honest.
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ofet, li ti ena katran partou.
04:26
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
04:28
If we're being strict about it, wherever he went, he was four that year.
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Bon, nimport kotsa li ti ete, li ti ena katran sa lane la.
04:31
He was in the Nativity play. Do you remember the story?
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Li ti pe zwe dan spektak Nativite. Zot rapel so zistwar?
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(Laughter)
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(Riye)
04:35
No, it was big, it was a big story.
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Se enn gran zistwar.
04:37
Mel Gibson did the sequel, you may have seen it.
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Mel Gibson inn fer so laswit, kapav zot inn gete.
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(Laughter)
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(Riye)
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"Nativity II."
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"Nativite 2".
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But James got the part of Joseph, which we were thrilled about.
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James tinn gagn rol Zozef: nou ti bien kontan.
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We considered this to be one of the lead parts.
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Nou ti konsider sa kouma enn bann rol prinsipal.
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We had the place crammed full of agents in T-shirts:
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Lasal ti rampli ar bann azan ar bann t-shirt ki dir
"James Robinson LIMEM Zozef!" (Riye)
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"James Robinson IS Joseph!"
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04:53
(Laughter)
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04:54
He didn't have to speak, but you know the bit where the three kings come in?
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Li pa ti ena pou koze,
me zot konn sa parti kot trwa lerwa vini la?
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They come in bearing gifts, gold, frankincense and myrrh.
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Zot vini avek kado, lor ek lobann.
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This really happened.
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Sa inn vremem arive.
A enn moman mo panse ki zot inn bliye enn sekans
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We were sitting there, and I think they just went out of sequence,
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because we talked to the little boy afterward and said,
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parski kan nounn dimann ti garson la apre,
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"You OK with that?" They said, "Yeah, why? Was that wrong?"
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"Tou korek?", linn reponn, "Wi, kifer? Sa pa ti bon?"
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They just switched.
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Zot inn zis fer melanz.
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The three boys came in, four-year-olds with tea towels on their heads.
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Trwa garson ti rantre.
Zot ena katran, ar zot ti serviet lor latet.
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They put these boxes down, and the first boy said, "I bring you gold."
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Zot poz bann bwat anba,
ek premie la dir, "Monn amenn lor."
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And the second boy said, "I bring you myrrh."
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Deziem la dir, "Monn amenn lobann."
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And the third boy said, "Frank sent this."
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Trwaziem la dir, "Frank inn avoy sa."
05:22
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
05:35
What these things have in common is that kids will take a chance.
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Saki bann zanfan la ena an komun, seki zot oze.
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If they don't know, they'll have a go.
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Si zot pa kone, zot nek seye.
Pa vre? Zot pa per tansion zot pena rezon.
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Am I right? They're not frightened of being wrong.
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I don't mean to say that being wrong is the same thing as being creative.
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Mo pa pe dir ki pena rezon se mem zafer ki et kreatif.
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What we do know is, if you're not prepared to be wrong,
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Saki nou kone se ki si ou pa pre pou pena rezon,
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you'll never come up with anything original --
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zame ou pa pou fer kitsoz orizinal.
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if you're not prepared to be wrong.
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Si ou pa pre pou fer erer.
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And by the time they get to be adults, most kids have lost that capacity.
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Letan grandi vinn adilt, laplipar zanfan perdi sa kapasite la.
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They have become frightened of being wrong.
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Zot per tansion zot fer "fot".
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And we run our companies like this.
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Koumsa mem ki nou diriz konpani.
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We stigmatize mistakes.
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Nou stigmatiz erer.
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And we're now running national education systems
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Ek aster nou diriz nou sistem ledikasion nasional
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where mistakes are the worst thing you can make.
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avek lide ki erer se pir zafer ki ou kapav fer.
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And the result is that we are educating people
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Rezilta, se ki nou pe edik dimounn
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out of their creative capacities.
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pou pa servi zot kapasite kreatif.
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Picasso once said this, he said that all children are born artists.
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Picasso ti dir ki tou zanfan ne artis.
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The problem is to remain an artist as we grow up.
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Saki difisil se res enn artis letan nou grandi.
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I believe this passionately, that we don't grow into creativity,
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Mo vremem krwar sa, ki nou pa aprann me blie
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we grow out of it.
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kouma vinn kreatif.
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Or rather, we get educated out of it.
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Ou plito nou ledikasion fer nou bliye.
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So why is this?
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Kifer sa?
Ena sink an, mo ti pe viv Stratford-on-Avon.
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I lived in Stratford-on-Avon until about five years ago.
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06:39
In fact, we moved from Stratford to Los Angeles.
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Ofet nounn bouze al Los Angeles depi Stratford.
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So you can imagine what a seamless transition this was.
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Zot kav imazine kouma sa tranzision la ti fasil.
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(Laughter)
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(Riye)
06:47
Actually, we lived in a place called Snitterfield,
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Ofet, ou ti dan enn landrwa apel Snitterfield
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just outside Stratford,
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zis andeor Stratford,
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which is where Shakespeare's father was born.
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kot Shakespeare so papa ti ne.
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Are you struck by a new thought? I was.
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Aster la zot pe realize? Ek mwasi ti parey.
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You don't think of Shakespeare having a father, do you?
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Ki Shakespeare ti ena enn papa?
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Do you?
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Parski zame zot inn panse ki Shakespeare ti enn zanfan, non?
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Because you don't think of Shakespeare being a child, do you?
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07:02
Shakespeare being seven?
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Mazinn Shakespeare a set an?
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I never thought of it.
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Zame monn pans sa.
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I mean, he was seven at some point.
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Anfin, li ti ena 7 an a enn moman.
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He was in somebody's English class, wasn't he?
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Li ti dan kikenn so klas angle, pa vre?
07:08
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
07:15
How annoying would that be?
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Sa ti bizin amerdan, non?
07:17
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
07:24
"Must try harder."
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"Fer plis zefor."
(Riye)
07:26
(Laughter)
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So papa dir li al dormi, "William, al dormi aster la mem!
07:30
Being sent to bed by his dad, to Shakespeare, "Go to bed, now!"
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07:33
To William Shakespeare.
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Poz sa kreyon la."
07:34
"And put the pencil down!"
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(Riye)
07:36
(Laughter)
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"Ek aret koz koumsa."
07:37
"And stop speaking like that."
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07:38
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
07:42
"It's confusing everybody."
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"Personn napa pe konpran."
07:43
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
07:48
Anyway, we moved from Stratford to Los Angeles,
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Bon, nounn bouz depi Stratford pu al Los Angeles,
07:54
and I just want to say a word about the transition.
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ek mo zis anvi dir kitsoz lor sa tranzision la.
07:56
Actually, my son didn't want to come.
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Mo garson pa ti anvi vini.
07:58
I've got two kids; he's 21 now, my daughter's 16.
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Mo ena de zanfan: mo garson ena 21 an, mo tifi ena 16 an.
08:00
He didn't want to come to Los Angeles.
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Li pa ti anvi vinn Los Angeles.
08:03
He loved it, but he had a girlfriend in England.
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Li ti pou kontan, me li ti ena enn kopinn Langleter.
08:06
This was the love of his life, Sarah.
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Ti lamour so lavi, Sarah.
08:09
He'd known her for a month.
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Li ti konn li depi enn mwa.
08:11
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
08:12
Mind you, they'd had their fourth anniversary,
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Tansion, zot ti fek fet zot katriem laniverser,
ek se boukou kan ou ena 16 an.
08:15
because it's a long time when you're 16.
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08:17
He was really upset on the plane.
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Anfin, li ti bien boude dan avion.
08:19
He said, "I'll never find another girl like Sarah."
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Li dir, "Zame pou trouv enn lot tifi kouma Sarah."
08:21
And we were rather pleased about that, frankly --
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Ek sa ti fer nou ase kontan, onetman --
08:24
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
08:32
because she was the main reason we were leaving the country.
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Parski li ti prinsipal rezon kifer nou ti pe kit pei.
08:35
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
08:41
But something strikes you when you move to America
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Enn zafer frap ou kan ou vinn Lamerik
08:43
and travel around the world:
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ek kan ou voyaze dan lemond:
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every education system on earth has the same hierarchy of subjects.
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tou sistem ledikasion ena mem yerarsi dan bann size.
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Every one. Doesn't matter where you go.
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Tou sistem. Nimport kotsa dan lemond.
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You'd think it would be otherwise, but it isn't.
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Ou panse lekontrer vre, me ofet non.
08:52
At the top are mathematics and languages, then the humanities.
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Lao ou trouv matematik ek langaz,
answit sians imenn, ek enba net bann size artistik.
08:55
At the bottom are the arts. Everywhere on earth.
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Partou lor later.
08:58
And in pretty much every system, too, there's a hierarchy within the arts.
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Ek dan sak sistem ena mem enn lot yerasi ant sak size artistik.
09:02
Art and music are normally given a higher status in schools
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Desin ek lamizik ena plis prestiz
09:05
than drama and dance.
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ki teat ek danse.
09:06
There isn't an education system on the planet
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Pena enn sistem ledikasion dan lemond
09:08
that teaches dance every day to children
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ki ansegn danse toulezour
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the way we teach them mathematics.
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kouma li ansegn matematik. Kifer?
09:12
Why?
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09:13
Why not?
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Kifer non? Mo panse ki li ase inportan.
09:14
I think this is rather important.
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09:16
I think math is very important, but so is dance.
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Mo panse matematik bien inportan, me danse osi.
09:18
Children dance all the time if they're allowed to, we all do.
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Zanfan danse toultan si nou les zot, nousi parey.
09:21
We all have bodies, don't we? Did I miss a meeting?
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Nou tou ena enn lekor, non? Ou eski monn rat kitsoz?
09:24
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
09:27
Truthfully, what happens is, as children grow up,
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Anverite, saki arive, se ki kan nou edik zanfan,
09:29
we start to educate them progressively from the waist up.
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nou koumans depi zot lipie nou mont ziska zot latet.
09:32
And then we focus on their heads.
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Apre nou nek konsantre lor latet.
09:34
And slightly to one side.
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Ek impe zis lor kote gos la.
Si ou enn alienn ek ou vizit sistem la
09:37
If you were to visit education as an alien
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09:39
and say "What's it for, public education?"
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ek ou dimande, "Ledikasion piblik ki servi?",
09:42
I think you'd have to conclude, if you look at the output,
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mo panse ou konklizion, si ou get rezilta,
09:44
who really succeeds by this,
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get bann ki resi dan sistem,
09:46
who does everything they should,
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bann ki fer tou kouma bizin,
09:48
who gets all the brownie points, who are the winners --
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bann ki gagn tou bon pwin, bann gagnan --
09:50
I think you'd have to conclude the whole purpose of public education
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mo panse konklizion se ki rol ledikasion piblik,
09:54
throughout the world
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a traver lemond,
09:55
is to produce university professors.
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se prodir bann profeser liniversite.
09:57
Isn't it?
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Pa vre?
09:58
They're the people who come out the top.
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Zot mem ki ariv lao net.
10:00
And I used to be one, so there.
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Mo mem mo ti profeser.
10:02
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
Mo kontan bann profeser liniversite, me ou kone,
10:06
And I like university professors,
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10:08
but, you know, we shouldn't hold them up
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nou pa oblize pran zot
10:10
as the high-water mark of all human achievement.
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kouma meyer mezir pou reysit.
10:13
They're just a form of life.
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Zot zis enn form lavi,
10:15
Another form of life.
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enn lot kalite form lavi.
10:16
But they're rather curious.
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Me zot ase etranz, ek mo pe dir sa parski mo bien kontan zot.
10:18
And I say this out of affection for them:
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there's something curious about professors.
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Ena kitsoz etranz ar bann profeser, dapre mwa --
10:22
In my experience -- not all of them, but typically -- they live in their heads.
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pa zot tou, me boukou, viv dan zot latet.
10:25
They live up there and slightly to one side.
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Zot viv lao isi, ek inpe lor kote gos la.
10:28
They're disembodied, you know, in a kind of literal way.
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Zot pena lekor, ou kone, ase literalman.
10:31
They look upon their body as a form of transport for their heads.
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Pou zot, zot lekor li enn form transpor pou zot latet.
10:35
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
10:41
Don't they?
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Pa vre?
10:42
It's a way of getting their head to meetings.
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Se enn fason amenn zot latet dan bann reunion.
10:44
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
10:50
If you want real evidence of out-of-body experiences, by the way,
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Si ou le kit prev lor bann lexperians andeor lekor,
10:53
get yourself along to a residential conference of senior academics
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nek al dan enn konferans avek bann akademik senior,
10:57
and pop into the discotheque on the final night.
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ek al dan enn diskotek dernie zour.
10:59
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
11:02
And there, you will see it.
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Lerla zot pou trouve.
11:03
Grown men and women writhing uncontrollably, off the beat.
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Bann misie ek madam ki pe zigile san aukenn ritm.
11:08
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
11:10
Waiting until it ends, so they can go home and write a paper about it.
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Nek atann, kouma zot al lakaz zot pou ekrir enn lartik lor la.
11:14
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
11:16
Our education system is predicated on the idea of academic ability.
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Nou sistem ledikasion baze lor capasite akademik.
11:20
And there's a reason.
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Ena enn rezon pou sa.
11:21
Around the world, there were no public systems of education,
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Dan lemond, pa ti ena okenn sistem ledikasion piblik
11:24
really, before the 19th century.
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avan dizneviem siek.
11:27
They all came into being to meet the needs of industrialism.
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Tousala finn arive akoz lindistrializasion ti bizin sa.
11:30
So the hierarchy is rooted on two ideas.
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Alor sa yerarsi la baze lor de lide.
11:32
Number one, that the most useful subjects for work are at the top.
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Premie, se ki bann size pli itil pu lao net.
11:37
So you were probably steered benignly away from things at school
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Akoz samem kapav ou finn detourne depi
bann zafer ki ou ti kontan kan ou ti zanfan,
11:40
when you were a kid,
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11:41
things you liked,
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11:42
on the grounds you would never get a job doing that.
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parski sanse pa pou gagn travay ou lavi avek sa, pa vre?
11:44
Is that right?
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Pa pran lamizik, to pa pou vinn mizisien;
11:46
"Don't do music, you're not going to be a musician;
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pa pran art, to pa pou vinn artis.
11:48
don't do art, you won't be an artist."
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Bann konsey ki bien kouran me ki prondeman antor.
11:50
Benign advice -- now, profoundly mistaken.
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11:53
The whole world is engulfed in a revolution.
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Lemond antie pe pas dan enn revolision.
11:55
And the second is academic ability,
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Deziem lide, se ki capasite akademik
11:57
which has really come to dominate our view of intelligence,
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finn vinn definir saki nou apel lintelizans,
12:00
because the universities design the system in their image.
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parski linversite finn kre sa sistem la dapre zot mem.
12:03
If you think of it,
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Kan ou panse, tou sistem ledikasion piblik dan lemond,
12:04
the whole system of public education around the world is a protracted process
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se enn long prosesis pou rant dan liniversite.
12:07
of university entrance.
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12:09
And the consequence is that many highly talented,
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So konsekans se ki boukou dimounn ki ena talan,
12:11
brilliant, creative people think they're not,
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ki briyan ek kreatif, napa panse ki zot koumsa
12:13
because the thing they were good at at school
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akoz sel zafer dan ki zot ti bon dan lekol
12:16
wasn't valued, or was actually stigmatized.
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pa ti ena valer ou ti stigmatize.
12:18
And I think we can't afford to go on that way.
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Mo pa panse nou kapav kontinie koumsa.
12:20
In the next 30 years, according to UNESCO,
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UNESCO dir ki dan 30 an,
12:23
more people worldwide will be graduating through education
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pli boukou dimounn pou gradwe
12:26
than since the beginning of history.
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depi ledikasion piblik ki depi koumansman listwar.
12:28
More people.
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Plis dimounn, ek se sa melanz de tou saki nounn koze --
12:29
And it's the combination of all the things we've talked about:
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12:32
technology and its transformational effect on work,
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teknolozi ek kouma li pe transform travay, ek demografi
12:35
and demography and the huge explosion in population.
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avek so lexplozion popilasion.
12:37
Suddenly, degrees aren't worth anything.
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Enn sel kout, diplom pa pou vo nanye.
12:40
Isn't that true?
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Pa vre?
12:41
When I was a student, if you had a degree, you had a job.
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Kan mo ti etidian, si ou ti ena diplom, ou ti ena travay.
12:44
If you didn't have a job, it's because you didn't want one.
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Si ou pa ti ena travay, se parski ou pa ti anvi travay.
12:47
And I didn't want one, frankly.
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Ek mwa mo pa ti anvi. (Riye)
12:50
(Laughter)
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Me aster bann zanfan diplome
12:51
But now kids with degrees are often heading home
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souvan pe retourn kot paran pou kontign zwe video game,
12:55
to carry on playing video games,
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12:57
because you need an MA where the previous job required a BA,
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akoz ou bizin enn MA kot avan ti bizin enn BA,
13:00
and now you need a PhD for the other.
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ek aster pe bizin PhD.
13:02
It's a process of academic inflation.
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Se enn prosesis inflasion akademik.
13:04
And it indicates the whole structure of education is shifting beneath our feet.
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Ek sa montre kouma striktir ledikasion
pe bouze anba nou prop lipie.
13:07
We need to radically rethink our view of intelligence.
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Nou bizin sanz nou definision lintelizans.
13:10
We know three things about intelligence.
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Nou konn trwa kitsoz lor lintelizans.
13:12
One, it's diverse.
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Premie, se ki li divers.
13:13
We think about the world in all the ways that we experience it.
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Nou persepsion lemond depann lor tou kalite lexperians.
13:16
We think visually, we think in sound, we think kinesthetically.
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Nou reflesi vizwelman, avek son, avek nou sans touse.
13:19
We think in abstract terms, we think in movement.
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Nou reflesi de fason abstre ou an mouvman.
13:21
Secondly, intelligence is dynamic.
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Deziem, lintelizans li dinamik.
13:24
If you look at the interactions of a human brain,
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Si ou get bann interaksion dan servo,
13:27
as we heard yesterday from a number of presentations,
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kouma nounn tande yer depi ennta prezantasion,
13:30
intelligence is wonderfully interactive.
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lintelizans extra interaktif.
13:32
The brain isn't divided into compartments.
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Nou servo pa divize an konpartiman.
13:34
In fact, creativity --
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Anfet, kreativite -- ki mo defini kouma prosesis
13:36
which I define as the process of having original ideas that have value --
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gagn bann lide orizinal ki ena valer --
13:40
more often than not comes about
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pli souvan arive atraver interaksion
13:42
through the interaction of different disciplinary ways of seeing things.
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ant diferan fason get bann zafer.
13:47
By the way, there's a shaft of nerves that joins the two halves of the brain,
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An pasan, ena enn colonn ner ki relie de lemisfer nou servo.
13:51
called the corpus callosum.
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Li apel "corpus callosum".
13:52
It's thicker in women.
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Li pli epe kot bann madam.
13:54
Following off from Helen yesterday,
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Yer, dapre Helen,
se kitfwa akoz sa mem bann madam pli bon dan multi-tasking.
13:56
this is probably why women are better at multitasking.
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13:59
Because you are, aren't you?
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Parski zot kapav, pa vre?
Boukou resers lor la, me mo konn sa depi lexperians personel.
14:01
There's a raft of research, but I know it from my personal life.
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14:04
If my wife is cooking a meal at home, which is not often ...
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Si mo madam pe kwi lakaz -- ki pa ariv souvan, erezman.
14:09
thankfully.
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14:10
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
Non, ena zafer ki li fer bien -- me kan li pe kwi,
14:13
No, she's good at some things.
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14:14
But if she's cooking, she's dealing with people on the phone,
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an mem tan li kav lor telefonn,
14:17
she's talking to the kids, she's painting the ceiling --
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li kav pe koz ek zanfan, li kav pe penn plafon,
li kav pe fer enn loperasion leker.
14:20
(Laughter)
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14:21
she's doing open-heart surgery over here.
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14:23
If I'm cooking, the door is shut, the kids are out,
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Si mwa mo pe kwi ... laport ferme, zanfan deor,
14:26
the phone's on the hook,
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telefonn debranse, ek si li rantre mo agase.
14:27
if she comes in, I get annoyed.
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14:29
I say, "Terry, please, I'm trying to fry an egg in here."
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Mo dir, "Terry, enn servis, mo pe sey frir enn dizef la."
14:32
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
14:39
"Give me a break."
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"Les mwa trankil."
14:40
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
14:42
Actually, do you know that old philosophical thing,
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Ofet, ou konn sa vie koze ki dir si
14:44
"If a tree falls in a forest, and nobody hears it, did it happen?"
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enn pie tombe dan bwa ek personn pa tande, eski linn vremem arive?
14:48
Remember that old chestnut?
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Ou rapel sa zistwar la?
14:49
I saw a great T-shirt recently, which said,
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Monn trouv enn zoli t-shirt resaman ki dir
14:52
"If a man speaks his mind in a forest, and no woman hears him,
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"Si enn misie dir so laverite dan enn bwa ek okenn madam pa tann li,
14:56
is he still wrong?"
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eski li ena kan mem tor?"
14:57
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
Trwaziem zafer lor lintelizans se ki
15:05
And the third thing about intelligence is,
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15:07
it's distinct.
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li ena plizir form.
Mo pe ekrir enn liv ki apel "Epifani"
15:09
I'm doing a new book at the moment called "Epiphany,"
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15:11
which is based on a series of interviews with people
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lor enn seri interview avek bann dimounn
lor kouma zot finn dekouver zot talan.
15:14
about how they discovered their talent.
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15:15
I'm fascinated by how people got to be there.
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Mo fasine par kouma zot inn arive dan lavi.
Lide la inn ne apre enn konversasion avek enn madam extraordiner
15:18
It's really prompted by a conversation I had with a wonderful woman
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15:21
who maybe most people have never heard of, Gillian Lynne.
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ki bokou dimounn pa kone, Gillian Lyne.
Ounn deza tande? Ena wi.
15:24
Have you heard of her? Some have.
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15:25
She's a choreographer, and everybody knows her work.
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Dan domenn koregrafi, zot tou konn so travay.
15:28
She did "Cats" and "Phantom of the Opera."
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Linn fer "Cats" ek "Phantom of the Opera".
15:30
She's wonderful.
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Li extraordiner.
15:31
I used to be on the board of The Royal Ballet, as you can see.
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Avan, mo ti lor bord Royal Ballet,
kouma ou kav trouve.
15:34
(Laughter)
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Pandan enn dezene avek Gillian, monn dimann li,
15:36
Gillian and I had lunch one day. I said, "How did you get to be a dancer?"
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"Kouma tonn al vinn enn danser?"
Ti bien interesan.
15:39
It was interesting.
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Kan li ti lekol, pa ti ena okenn lespwar pou li.
15:41
When she was at school, she was really hopeless.
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So lekol dan bann lane 30 ti finn ekrir so paran pou dir ki
15:43
And the school, in the '30s, wrote to her parents and said,
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15:46
"We think Gillian has a learning disorder."
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Gillian bizin ena enn problem aprantisaz.
15:48
She couldn't concentrate; she was fidgeting.
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Li pa ti pe kav konsantre: nek li bouzbouze.
15:50
I think now they'd say she had ADHD.
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Zordizour zot ti pou dir ki li ena ADHD, non?
15:52
Wouldn't you?
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15:53
But this was the 1930s, and ADHD hadn't been invented at this point.
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Me sa ti dan bann lane 30, ek ADHD pa ti ankor invante.
15:57
It wasn't an available condition.
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Pa ti enn condision disponib.
15:59
(Laughter)
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(Riye)
Dimounn pa ti kone ki zot kapav ena sa.
16:03
People weren't aware they could have that.
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(Riye)
16:05
(Laughter)
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16:07
Anyway, she went to see this specialist.
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Bon, linn al get enn spesialis.
16:11
So, this oak-paneled room, and she was there with her mother,
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Linn al ek so mama dan enn pies kouver ar dibwa senn,
16:15
and she was led and sat on this chair at the end,
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kot zot inn fer li asiz lor enn sez dan fon lasal
16:17
and she sat on her hands for 20 minutes,
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pou vin minit pandan ki so mama koz ar dokter la
16:19
while this man talked to her mother
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16:21
about all the problems Gillian was having at school,
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lor tou bann problem ki li gagne lekol.
16:23
because she was disturbing people, her homework was always late, and so on.
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Li ti pe deranz dimounn, li ti pe rann devwar an retar, etc.
16:27
Little kid of eight.
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Ti enn zanfan 8 an sa.
16:28
In the end, the doctor went and sat next to Gillian and said,
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A la fin, dokter la leve, al asiz akot Gillian ek dir li,
16:31
"I've listened to all these things your mother's told me.
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"Monn ekout tou saki to mama finn dir,
16:34
I need to speak to her privately.
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mo bizin koz ar li an prive.
Atann isi, nou pou revini dan enn ti moman."
16:36
Wait here. We'll be back. We won't be very long,"
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16:38
and they went and left her.
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Ek zot inn kit li.
Me avan li sorti,
16:41
But as they went out of the room,
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16:42
he turned on the radio that was sitting on his desk.
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dokter la inn alim radio ki ti lor so latab.
16:45
And when they got out of the room,
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Ek kan zot inn sorti, li dir mama la, "Nek deboute gete."
16:47
he said to her mother, "Just stand and watch her."
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16:49
And the minute they left the room,
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Nek kouma zot sorti,
16:52
she was on her feet, moving to the music.
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tifi la dibout, li koumans danse.
16:54
And they watched for a few minutes, and he turned to her mother and said,
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Zot obzerv li pandan impe minit, lerla dokter la dir so mama,
16:58
"Mrs. Lynne, Gillian isn't sick.
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"Madam Lynne, Gillian pa malad, li zis enn danser.
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She's a dancer.
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Amenn li lekol de dans."
17:03
Take her to a dance school."
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17:04
I said, "What happened?"
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Mo dimann Gillian, "Lerla kinn arive?"
17:06
She said, "She did. I can't tell you how wonderful it was.
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"Samem linn fer. Mo pa kav dir twa kouma sa ti merveye.
17:09
We walked in this room, and it was full of people like me --
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Nounn rant dan enn lasal kot zot tou ti kouma mwa.
17:11
people who couldn't sit still,
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Bann dimounn ki pa kav asiz trankil,
17:14
people who had to move to think."
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dimounn ki bizin bouze pou reflesi." Ki bizin bouze pou reflesi.
17:17
Who had to move to think.
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17:18
They did ballet, they did tap, jazz; they did modern; they did contemporary.
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Zot inn aprann bale, tap, jazz, dans modern, dans kontanporenn.
17:22
She was eventually auditioned for the Royal Ballet School.
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Linn al odision pou Royal Ballet School,
17:25
She became a soloist; she had a wonderful career at the Royal Ballet.
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linn vinn enn danser solo, linn fer enn bel karyer kot Royal Ballet.
17:28
She eventually graduated from the Royal Ballet School,
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Finalman linn kit Royal Ballet School
17:31
founded the Gillian Lynne Dance Company,
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ek finn fond Gillian Lynne Dance Company,
17:33
met Andrew Lloyd Webber.
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zwenn Andrew Lloyd Webber.
17:34
She's been responsible for
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Li mem deryer
17:35
some of the most successful musical theater productions in history,
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bokou bann prodiksion teat mizikal kinn ena plis sikse.
17:38
she's given pleasure to millions,
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Linn fer boukou dimounn kontan ek li enn multimilioner.
17:40
and she's a multimillionaire.
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17:41
Somebody else might have put her on medication and told her to calm down.
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Enn lot dokter ti kav nek donn li medsinn ek dir li kalme.
17:45
(Applause)
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(Aplodisman)
17:53
What I think it comes to is this:
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Ala saki mo panse:
17:55
Al Gore spoke the other night
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lot zour la Al Gore ti koz
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about ecology and the revolution that was triggered by Rachel Carson.
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lor ekolozi ek sa revolision ki finn deklanse par Rachel Carson.
18:02
I believe our only hope for the future
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Mo panse ki nou sel lespwar pou lefitir
18:04
is to adopt a new conception of human ecology,
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se adopte enn nouvo konsepsion "ekolozi imenn",
18:08
one in which we start to reconstitute our conception
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kot nou rekonstrir nou konsepsion
18:10
of the richness of human capacity.
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de larises kapasite imenn.
18:13
Our education system has mined our minds
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Nou sistem ledikasion inn minn nou lespri
18:16
in the way that we strip-mine the earth for a particular commodity.
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dan mem fason ki nounn explwat later: pou enn komodite an partikilie.
18:20
And for the future, it won't serve us.
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Dan lefitir, sa pa pou servi nou.
18:22
We have to rethink the fundamental principles
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Nou bizin repans bann prinsip fondamantal
18:25
on which we're educating our children.
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ki nou servi pou edik nou bann zanfan.
18:27
There was a wonderful quote by Jonas Salk, who said,
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Ena enn zoli sitasion de Jonas Salk,
18:29
"If all the insects were to disappear from the Earth,
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"Si tou bann insek disparet depi later,
18:34
within 50 years, all life on Earth would end.
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an mwins ki 50 an, tou lavi lor later pou disparet.
18:38
If all human beings disappeared from the Earth,
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Si tou dimounn disparet depi later,
18:41
within 50 years, all forms of life would flourish."
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an mwins ki 50 an, tou lavi lor later pou epannwi."
18:45
And he's right.
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Ek li ena rezon.
18:47
What TED celebrates is the gift of the human imagination.
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Saki TED selebre se kado limazinasion imenn.
18:51
We have to be careful now that we use this gift wisely,
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Nou bizin fer atansion
ki nou servi sa kado la avek sazes
18:55
and that we avert some of the scenarios that we've talked about.
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ek ki nou evit bann senario ki nounn koze talerla.
18:59
And the only way we'll do it is by seeing our creative capacities
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Sel fason nou kav fer sa se a traver rekonesans la rises
19:02
for the richness they are
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de nou bann kapasite kreatif
19:04
and seeing our children for the hope that they are.
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ek rekonesan nou bann zanfan kouma nou sours lespwar.
19:07
And our task is to educate their whole being,
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Nou devwar se edik zot de fason olistik
19:10
so they can face this future.
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pou ki zot kav afront lefitir.
19:11
By the way -- we may not see this future,
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Kapav nou nou pa pou trouv sa fitir la,
19:14
but they will.
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me zot wi.
19:15
And our job is to help them make something of it.
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Nou devwar se ed zot fer kitsoz ar li.
19:18
Thank you very much.
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Mersi boukou.
19:19
(Applause)
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(Aplodisman)
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