The power of vulnerability | Brené Brown | TED

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Torej, začela bom s tem:
00:16
So, I'll start with this: a couple years ago, an event planner called me
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pred nekaj leti me je poklicala načrtovalka dogodkov,
ker naj bi imela predavanje.
00:20
because I was going to do a speaking event.
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Poklicala me je in mi rekla:
00:22
And she called, and she said,
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"Zares se mučim s tem,
00:24
"I'm really struggling with how to write about you on the little flyer."
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kaj naj napišem o tebi na mali letak."
00:27
And I thought, "Well, what's the struggle?"
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In pomislila sem: "Torej, s čim se muči?"
Rekla je: "Torej, slišala sem te predavati
00:30
And she said, "Well, I saw you speak,
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in mislim, da te bom poimenovala raziskovalka.
00:32
and I'm going to call you a researcher, I think,
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00:34
but I'm afraid if I call you a researcher, no one will come,
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Toda bojim se, da če te poimenujem raziskovalka, nihče ne bo prišel,
ker bodo vsi mislili, da si dolgočasna in irelevantna."
00:37
because they'll think you're boring and irrelevant."
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(Smeh)
00:40
(Laughter)
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In jaz: "V redu."
00:41
And I was like, "Okay."
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00:42
And she said, "But the thing I liked about your talk
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In ona: "Toda, kar mi je bilo pri tvojem predavanju všeč
je to, da pripoveduješ zgodbo.
00:45
is you're a storyteller.
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00:46
So I think what I'll do is just call you a storyteller."
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Zato menim, da te bom poimenovala kar pripovedovalka zgodb."
00:49
And of course, the academic, insecure part of me
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In seveda, oglasil se je akademski, negotov del mene:
00:52
was like, "You're going to call me a what?"
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"Kako me boš imenovala?"
In rekla je: "Imenovala te bom priovedovalka zgodb."
00:55
And she said, "I'm going to call you a storyteller."
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00:57
And I was like, "Why not 'magic pixie'?"
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In jaz: "Zakaj pa ne čarobna škratovka?"
01:00
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:03
I was like, "Let me think about this for a second."
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In potem: "Naj za trenutek razmislim o tem."
Poskusila sem iz globin priklicati svoj pogum.
01:07
I tried to call deep on my courage.
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01:09
And I thought, you know, I am a storyteller.
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In pomislila sem, veš kaj, sem pripovedovalka zgodb.
01:12
I'm a qualitative researcher.
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Sem kvalitativna raziskovalka.
01:14
I collect stories; that's what I do.
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Zbiram zgodbe, to počnem.
01:16
And maybe stories are just data with a soul.
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In mogoče so zgodbe samo podatki z dušo.
01:19
And maybe I'm just a storyteller.
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In mogoče sem samo pripovedovalka zgodb.
01:21
And so I said, "You know what?
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In rekla sem: "Veš kaj.
01:23
Why don't you just say I'm a researcher-storyteller."
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Zakaj me ne poimenuješ kar raziskovalka - pripovedovalka zgodb."
01:26
And she went, "Ha ha. There's no such thing."
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In ona: "Haha. To ne obstaja."
01:29
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:31
So I'm a researcher-storyteller, and I'm going to talk to you today --
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Torej sem raziskovalka - pripovedovalka zgodb.
in danes bom govorila vam --
01:35
we're talking about expanding perception --
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govorimo o širitvi dojemanja --
01:37
and so I want to talk to you and tell some stories
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in želim vam govoriti in povedati nekaj zgodb
o delu mojega raziskovanja,
01:40
about a piece of my research that fundamentally expanded my perception
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ki je temeljito razširilo moje dojemanje
01:45
and really actually changed the way that I live and love
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in resnično spremenilo način kako živim in ljubim
01:48
and work and parent.
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in delam in vzgajam.
01:50
And this is where my story starts.
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In tu se začne moja zgodba.
01:52
When I was a young researcher, doctoral student,
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Ko sem bila mlada raziskovalka, študentka na doktorskem študiju,
01:55
my first year, I had a research professor who said to us,
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sem imela v prvem letu profesorja,
ki nam je dejal:
01:59
"Here's the thing, if you cannot measure it, it does not exist."
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"Takole je,
če ne moreš izmeriti, ne obstaja."
Mislila sem, da me želi samo očarati.
02:05
And I thought he was just sweet-talking me.
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In sem vprašala:"Zares?" In odgovoril je:"Absolutno."
02:08
I was like, "Really?" and he was like, "Absolutely."
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02:10
And so you have to understand
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In morate razumeti,
da imam diplomo iz socialnega dela, magisterij iz socialnega dela,
02:13
that I have a bachelor's and a master's in social work,
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in delala sem doktorat iz socialnega dela.
02:15
and I was getting my Ph.D. in social work, so my entire academic career
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Torej, moja celotna akademska kariera
je bila obkrožena z ljudmi,
02:19
was surrounded by people who kind of believed in the "life's messy, love it."
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ki so na nek način verjeli v
"življenje je neurejeno, ljubi ga."
02:25
And I'm more of the, "life's messy, clean it up, organize it
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In jaz sem bolj za: "življenje je neurejeno,
očisti ga, organiziraj ga
02:30
and put it into a bento box."
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in ga spravi v škatlo."
02:32
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
In misliti, da sem našla svojo pot,
02:35
And so to think that I had found my way, to found a career that takes me --
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našla kariero, ki me vodi --
02:40
really, one of the big sayings in social work is,
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resnično, eden velikih rekov v socialnem delu
02:43
"Lean into the discomfort of the work."
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je: "Sprejmi nelagodje dela."
02:46
And I'm like, knock discomfort upside the head
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Jaz pa sem bolj, nelagodje udarim po glavi,
02:49
and move it over and get all A's.
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ga prestavim in dobim same 10-tke.
02:51
That was my mantra.
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To je bila moja mantra.
02:54
So I was very excited about this.
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Bila sem zelo navdušena nad tem.
02:56
And so I thought, you know what, this is the career for me,
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In mislila sem si, veš kaj, to je kariera zame,
02:59
because I am interested in some messy topics.
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saj me zanimajo nekatere neurejene teme.
03:02
But I want to be able to make them not messy.
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Toda hočem jih napraviti urejene.
Hočem jih razumeti.
03:05
I want to understand them.
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03:06
I want to hack into these things that I know are important
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Hočem se poglobiti v stvari,
za katere vem, da so pomembne
03:10
and lay the code out for everyone to see.
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in vsem predstaviti rešitev.
03:12
So where I started was with connection.
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In začela sem s povezanostjo.
03:15
Because, by the time you're a social worker for 10 years,
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Ko si socialni delavec več kot 10 let,
spoznaš,
03:19
what you realize is that connection is why we're here.
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da je povezanost tisto zaradi česar smo tu.
03:23
It's what gives purpose and meaning to our lives.
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To je tisto, kar daje namen in smisel našim življenjem.
To je bistvo vsega.
03:27
This is what it's all about.
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03:28
It doesn't matter whether you talk to people
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Ni pomembno ali se pogovarjaš z ljudmi,
ki delajo v socialnem sodstvu in v duševnem zdravju in na zlorabah in zanemarjanju,
03:31
who work in social justice, mental health and abuse and neglect,
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vsi vemo, da je povezanost,
03:34
what we know is that connection, the ability to feel connected, is --
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sposobnost, da se čutimo povezani --
neurobiološko smo tako ustvarjeni --
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neurobiologically that's how we're wired --
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03:41
it's why we're here.
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zato smo tukaj.
03:43
So I thought, you know what, I'm going to start with connection.
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Pomislila sem torej, veš kaj, začela bom s povezanostjo.
Saj poznate situacijo,
03:47
Well, you know that situation
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03:48
where you get an evaluation from your boss,
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ko vas šef oceni
03:51
and she tells you 37 things that you do really awesome,
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in vam pove 37 stvari, ki jih počnete res super
03:54
and one "opportunity for growth?"
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in eno stvar -- "možnost za rast?"
03:56
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
In razmišljate lahko samo o tisti možnosti za rast, ali ne?
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And all you can think about is that opportunity for growth, right?
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04:02
Well, apparently this is the way my work went as well,
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Torej, očitno je po tej poti šlo tudi moje delo,
04:05
because, when you ask people about love, they tell you about heartbreak.
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saj ko ljudi vprašaš o ljubezni,
ti pripovedujejo o srčnih bolečinah,
04:10
When you ask people about belonging,
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ko ljudi vprašaš o pripadanju,
ti pripovedujejo o svojih najbolj bolečih izkušnjah
04:13
they'll tell you their most excruciating experiences of being excluded.
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izključenosti.
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And when you ask people about connection,
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In ko vprašaš ljudi o povezanosti,
04:19
the stories they told me were about disconnection.
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so mi pripovedovali zgodbe o nepovezanosti.
In zelo hitro -- kakšne šest tednov od začetka raziskave --
04:23
So very quickly -- really about six weeks into this research --
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sem odkrila to neimenovano stvar,
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I ran into this unnamed thing that absolutely unraveled connection
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ki je popolnoma razvozlala povezanost,
na način, ki ga nisem razumela oziroma ga nisem nikoli videla.
04:32
in a way that I didn't understand or had never seen.
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Zato sem se umaknila iz raziskave
04:35
And so I pulled back out of the research
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in pomislila, to moram razvozlati.
04:37
and thought, I need to figure out what this is.
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04:39
And it turned out to be shame.
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Izkazalo se je, da je to sram.
In sram je lahko razumeti
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And shame is really easily understood as the fear of disconnection:
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kot strah pred nepovezanostjo:
Ali je pri meni kaj takšnega
04:47
Is there something about me that, if other people know it or see it,
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da, če bi drugi ljudje to vedeli, ali videli,
04:51
that I won't be worthy of connection?
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ne bi bil vreden povezanosti.
O njem vam lahko povem, da je:
04:55
The things I can tell you about it:
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univerzalen, vsi ga imamo.
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It's universal; we all have it.
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04:58
The only people who don't experience shame
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Sramu ne doživljajo samo ljudje, ki
nimajo sposobnosti človeške empatije ali povezanosti.
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have no capacity for human empathy or connection.
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Nihče ne želi govoriti o njem
05:03
No one wants to talk about it,
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and the less you talk about it, the more you have it.
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in manj kot govorimo o njem, več ga imamo.
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What underpinned this shame, this "I'm not good enough," --
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Kaj podkrepi ta sram,
tisto "Nisem dovolj dober," --
občutek, ki ga vsi poznamo:
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which, we all know that feeling:
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05:15
"I'm not blank enough. I'm not thin enough,
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"Nisem dovolj suh,
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rich enough, beautiful enough, smart enough, promoted enough."
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dovolj bogat, dovolj lep, dovolj pameten,
dovolj promoviran."
05:21
The thing that underpinned this was excruciating vulnerability.
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Stvar, ki to pokrepi
je boleča ranljivost,
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This idea of, in order for connection to happen,
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ta ideja o tem,
da moramo za povezanost
05:30
we have to allow ourselves to be seen, really seen.
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dovoliti sebi, da smo videni,
resnično videni.
In, saj veste kaj si mislim o ranljivosti. Sovražim ranljivost.
05:36
And you know how I feel about vulnerability. I hate vulnerability.
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In tako sem pomislila, to je moja priložnost,
05:39
And so I thought, this is my chance to beat it back with my measuring stick.
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da jo udarim nazaj s svojo merilno palico.
05:43
I'm going in, I'm going to figure this stuff out,
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Vstopila bom, ugotovila kaj to je,
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I'm going to spend a year, I'm going to totally deconstruct shame,
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porabila bom leto dni in popolnoma razstavila sram,
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I'm going to understand how vulnerability works,
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razumela bom kako ranljivost deluje
in jo bom prelisičila.
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and I'm going to outsmart it.
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05:54
So I was ready, and I was really excited.
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Torej, bila sem pripravljena in resnično vznemirjena.
Ampak, kot veste, to se ne bo končalo dobro.
06:00
As you know, it's not going to turn out well.
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(Smeh)
06:02
(Laughter)
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06:04
You know this.
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Saj to veste.
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So, I could tell you a lot about shame,
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Torej, o sramu bi vam lahko veliko povedala,
06:08
but I'd have to borrow everyone else's time.
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toda morala bi si sposoditi čas vse ostalih.
06:10
But here's what I can tell you that it boils down to --
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Toda, lahko vam povem za kaj pravzaprav gre --
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and this may be one of the most important things that I've ever learned
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in to je verjetno ena najpomembnejših stvari, ki sem se jo naučila
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in the decade of doing this research.
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v desetletju, ko sem to raziskovala.
Moje eno leto
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My one year turned into six years:
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se je spremenilo v šest let:
tisoče zgodb,
06:24
Thousands of stories, hundreds of long interviews, focus groups.
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stotine dolgih intervjujev, fokusnih skupin.
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At one point, people were sending me journal pages
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V nekem trenutku so mi ljudje pošiljali strani dnevnikov,
in svoje zgodbe --
06:31
and sending me their stories --
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06:33
thousands of pieces of data in six years.
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tisoče podatkov v šestih letih.
In nekako sem jih razumela.
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And I kind of got a handle on it.
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06:38
I kind of understood, this is what shame is, this is how it works.
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Nekako sem razumela, to je sram,
tako deluje.
Napisala sem knjigo,
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I wrote a book, I published a theory, but something was not okay --
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objavila teorijo,
toda nekaj ni bilo v redu --
06:49
and what it was is that, if I roughly took the people I interviewed
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in bilo je to,
če sem vzela ljudi, ki sem jih intervjuvala
06:53
and divided them into people who really have a sense of worthiness --
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in jih razdelila na tiste,
ki v resnici imajo občutek vrednosti,
tukaj se namreč konča,
07:00
that's what this comes down to, a sense of worthiness --
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pri občutku vrednosti --
07:03
they have a strong sense of love and belonging --
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imajo močan občutek ljubezni in pripadnosti --
07:06
and folks who struggle for it,
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in ljudi, ki se bojujejo za ta občutek,
07:08
and folks who are always wondering if they're good enough.
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in ljudi, ki se vedno sprašujejo ali so dovolj dobri.
Obstajala je samo ena spremenljivka,
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There was only one variable that separated
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ki je ločevala ljudi, ki imajo
07:13
the people who have a strong sense of love and belonging
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močan občutek ljubezni in pripadnosti
07:16
and the people who really struggle for it.
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in ljudi, ki se resnično bojujejo zanj.
07:18
And that was, the people who have a strong sense of love and belonging
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In sicer so ljudje, ki imajo
močan občutek ljubezni in pripadnosti
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believe they're worthy of love and belonging.
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verjeli, da so vredni ljubezni in pripadnosti.
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That's it.
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To je to.
07:27
They believe they're worthy.
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Verjamejo, da so vredni.
07:30
And to me, the hard part of the one thing that keeps us out of connection
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In zame najtežji del
tistega, kar nas drži stran od povezanosti
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is our fear that we're not worthy of connection,
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je naš strah, da nismo vredni povezanosti,
07:39
was something that, personally and professionally,
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je bilo nekaj, za kar sem čutila, da moram tako osebno kot profesionalno
bolje razumeti.
07:42
I felt like I needed to understand better.
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07:44
So what I did is I took all of the interviews
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In kaj sem naredila,
vzela sem vse intervjuje,
07:49
where I saw worthiness, where I saw people living that way,
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kjer sem videla vrednost, kjer sem videla, da ljudje živijo na tak način,
07:52
and just looked at those.
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in pregledala samo te intervjuje.
07:55
What do these people have in common?
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Kaj imajo ti ljudje skupnega?
07:57
I have a slight office supply addiction, but that's another talk.
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Imam majhno odvisnost od pisarniškega materiala,
toda to je že drugo predavanje.
08:02
So I had a manila folder, and I had a Sharpie,
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Imela sem torej mapo in flomaster
08:05
and I was like, what am I going to call this research?
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in razmišljala sem kako naj poimenujem to raziskavo.
In prva beseda, ki mi je prišlo na misel
08:08
And the first words that came to my mind were "whole-hearted."
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je bila iskreni.
08:11
These are whole-hearted people, living from this deep sense of worthiness.
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To so iskreni ljudje, ki živijo iz tega globokega občutka vrednosti.
Zapisala sem to na mapo
08:15
So I wrote at the top of the manila folder,
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in začela pregledovati podatke.
08:18
and I started looking at the data.
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V resnici sem to naredila
08:20
In fact, I did it first in a four-day, very intensive data analysis,
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v štirih dneh
zelo intenzivne podatkovne analize,
08:26
where I went back, pulled the interviews, the stories, pulled the incidents.
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v katerih sem se vrnila nazaj in pregledala intervjuje, zgodbe, incidente.
08:29
What's the theme? What's the pattern?
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Kaj je tema? Kakšen je vzorec?
08:32
My husband left town with the kids
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Moj mož je z otroci odšel iz mesta,
08:35
because I always go into this Jackson Pollock crazy thing,
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saj vedno počnem noro stvar Jackson-a Pollack-a,
08:38
where I'm just writing and in my researcher mode.
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ko samo pišem
v svojem raziskovalnem stanju.
08:43
And so here's what I found.
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In odkrila sem to.
Kar so imeli skupnega
08:48
What they had in common was a sense of courage.
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je bil pogum.
08:51
And I want to separate courage and bravery for you for a minute.
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In za trenutek želim ločiti med pogumom in hrabrostjo.
08:54
Courage, the original definition of courage,
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Pogum, originalna definicija poguma (courage),
ko je beseda prvič prišla v angleški jezik --
08:57
when it first came into the English language --
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je iz latinske besede cor, ki pomeni srce --
08:59
it's from the Latin word "cor," meaning "heart" --
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09:01
and the original definition was to tell the story of who you are
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in originalna definicija
naj bi povedalo zgodbo, kdo si s svojim celim srcem.
09:04
with your whole heart.
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In tako so ti ljudje,
09:07
And so these folks had, very simply, the courage to be imperfect.
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zelo enostavno, imeli pogum
biti nepopolni.
09:13
They had the compassion to be kind to themselves first and then to others,
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Imeli so sočutje,
da so bili prijazni najprej do sebe in potem še do drugih,
09:18
because, as it turns out,
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saj, kot se je izkazalo, ne moremo biti sočutni z drugimi,
09:19
we can't practice compassion with other people
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če nismo prijazni do sebe.
09:22
if we can't treat ourselves kindly.
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09:24
And the last was they had connection, and -- this was the hard part --
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In nazadnje, imeli so povezanost,
in -- to je težji del --
09:28
as a result of authenticity,
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kot rezultat avtentičnosti,
09:31
they were willing to let go of who they thought they should be
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so bili pripravljeni spustiti tisto, kar so mislili, da morajo biti,
09:34
in order to be who they were, which you have to absolutely do that
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zato, da so bili tisto kar so.
In to moraš absolutno narediti
09:39
for connection.
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za povezanost.
09:43
The other thing that they had in common was this:
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Druga skupna stvar
pa je bila ta:
09:50
They fully embraced vulnerability.
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popolnoma so sprejeli ranljivost.
09:55
They believed that what made them vulnerable made them beautiful.
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Verjeli so,
da jih tisto, kar jih naredi ranljive,
naredi čudovite.
Niso rekli, da je ranljivost
10:06
They didn't talk about vulnerability being comfortable,
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prijetna,
10:09
nor did they really talk about it being excruciating --
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niti niso rekli, da je boleča --
10:12
as I had heard it earlier in the shame interviewing.
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kot sem slišala v prejšnjih intervjujih o sramu.
Povedali so samo, da je nujna.
10:15
They just talked about it being necessary.
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10:18
They talked about the willingness to say, "I love you" first ...
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Govorili so o pripravljenosti,
da prvi rečejo: "Ljubim te.",
pripravljenosti,
10:24
the willingness to do something where there are no guarantees ...
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da nekaj naredijo,
čeprav ni nobenih zagotovil,
10:31
the willingness to breathe through waiting for the doctor to call
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pripravljenosti
predihati se skozi čakanje na zdravnikov klic
10:35
after your mammogram.
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po opravljeni mamografski preiskavi.
10:38
They're willing to invest in a relationship
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Pripravljeni so vlagati v odnos,
10:41
that may or may not work out.
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ki se mogoče bo, ali pa ne bo izšel.
10:44
They thought this was fundamental.
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Menili so, da je to osnova.
10:47
I personally thought it was betrayal.
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Jaz osebno sem mislila, da je to izdaja.
10:50
I could not believe I had pledged allegiance to research, where our job --
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Nisem mogla verjeti, da sem prisegla zvestobo
raziskovanju, kjer je naše delo --
10:55
you know, the definition of research is to control and predict,
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saj veste, definicija raziskovanja
je nadzorovati in predvidevati, raziskovati,
10:59
to study phenomena for the explicit reason to control and predict.
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z jasnim namenom
nadzorovati in predvidevati.
11:04
And now my mission to control and predict
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In zdaj je moja misija
nadzorovati in predvidevati
11:08
had turned up the answer that the way to live is with vulnerability
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ugotovila, da je potrebno živeti z ranljivostjo
in prenehati nadzorovati in predvidevati.
11:12
and to stop controlling and predicting.
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11:14
This led to a little breakdown --
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To je pripeljalo do majhnega živčnega zloma --
11:16
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:21
-- which actually looked more like this.
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-- ki je v bistvu izgledal bolj takole.
11:24
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:26
And it did.
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In je res.
11:28
I call it a breakdown; my therapist calls it a spiritual awakening.
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Jaz ga imenujem živčni zlom; moja terapevtka to imenuje duhovno prebujenje.
11:31
(Laughter)
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11:32
A spiritual awakening sounds better than breakdown,
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Duhovno prebujenje zveni bolje kot živčni zlom,
toda zagotavljam vam, da je bil živčni zlom
11:35
but I assure you, it was a breakdown.
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In morala sem odložiti svoje podatke in najti terapevta.
11:37
And I had to put my data away and go find a therapist.
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Naj vam nekaj povem: kdo ste veste
11:40
Let me tell you something: you know who you are
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takrat, ko pokličete svoje prijatelje in rečete "Mislim, da potrebujem nekoga.
11:42
when you call your friends and say, "I think I need to see somebody.
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Imaš kakšen predlog?"
11:45
Do you have any recommendations?"
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11:47
Because about five of my friends were like,
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Nekako pet mojih prijateljev je odreagiralo:
11:49
"Wooo, I wouldn't want to be your therapist."
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"Vau. Ne bi želel biti tvoj terapevt."
11:51
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:54
I was like, "What does that mean?"
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In jaz: "Kaj pa to pomeni?"
11:56
And they're like, "I'm just saying, you know.
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In oni: "Samo tako pravim, veš.
11:59
Don't bring your measuring stick."
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Ne prinesi merilne palice."
12:01
(Laughter)
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In jaz "V redu."
12:04
I was like, "Okay."
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12:06
So I found a therapist.
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In sem našla terapevtko.
12:08
My first meeting with her, Diana --
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Na moje prvo srečanje z njo, Diano --
sem prinesla svoj seznam
12:12
I brought in my list of the way the whole-hearted live, and I sat down.
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kako živijo iskreni ljudje in sedla.
12:16
And she said, "How are you?"
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In vrašala me je: "Kako si?"
12:18
And I said, "I'm great. I'm okay."
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In odgovorila sem: "Dobro sem. V redu sem."
12:21
She said, "What's going on?"
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Vprašala je: "Kaj se dogaja?"
12:23
And this is a therapist who sees therapists,
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In to je terapevtka, ki dela s terapevti,
12:26
because we have to go to those, because their B.S. meters are good.
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ker moramo hoditi k njim,
ker so vajeni vsega živega.
12:31
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:33
And so I said, "Here's the thing, I'm struggling."
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In sem dejala:
"Takole je, borim se."
12:37
And she said, "What's the struggle?"
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In je odvrnila: "S čim se boriš?"
Jaz pa: "Imam težavo z ranljivostjo.
12:40
And I said, "Well, I have a vulnerability issue.
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12:42
And I know that vulnerability is the core of shame and fear
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In vem, da je ranljivost bistvo
sramu in strahu
in našega boja za vrednost,
12:48
and our struggle for worthiness,
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12:49
but it appears that it's also the birthplace of joy, of creativity,
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izgleda pa, da je tudi zibelka
radosti in kretivnosti
12:55
of belonging, of love.
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pripadanja, ljubezni.
12:57
And I think I have a problem, and I need some help."
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In mislim, da imam problem
in potrebujem nekaj pomoči."
In sem dejala: "Pa še nekaj:
13:03
And I said, "But here's the thing: no family stuff, no childhood shit."
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nič družinskih stvari,
nič sranja iz otroštva."
13:08
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:10
"I just need some strategies."
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"Potrebujem samo nekaj strategij."
13:13
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:17
(Applause)
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(Ploskanje)
Hvala.
13:21
Thank you.
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13:24
So she goes like this.
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In potem naredi takole.
13:27
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:29
And then I said, "It's bad, right?"
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In rečem: "Je slabo, kajne?"
13:32
And she said, "It's neither good nor bad."
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In ona reče:"Ni niti dobro niti slabo."
13:35
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:37
"It just is what it is."
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"Je samo kar je."
13:39
And I said, "Oh my God, this is going to suck."
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In jaz sem rekla: "Oh moj Bog, tole bo pa zanič."
13:42
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:45
And it did, and it didn't.
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In je bilo in ni bilo.
13:47
And it took about a year.
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In trajalo je približno eno leto.
13:49
And you know how there are people
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In veste, da so ljudje,
13:51
that, when they realize that vulnerability and tenderness are important,
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ki se, takrat ko spoznajo, da sta ranljivost in občutljivost pomembna,
predajo in stopijo vanju.
13:56
that they surrender and walk into it.
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A: to nisem jaz
13:59
A: that's not me,
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in B: niti družim se ne s takšnimi ljudmi.
14:01
and B: I don't even hang out with people like that.
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14:03
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:06
For me, it was a yearlong street fight.
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Zame je bila to leto dni dolga borba.
14:09
It was a slugfest.
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Bla je težka borba.
14:11
Vulnerability pushed, I pushed back.
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Ranljivost je pritisnila, jaz sem pritisnila nazaj.
14:13
I lost the fight,
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Borbo sem izgubila,
14:16
but probably won my life back.
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toda verjetno sem nazaj pridobila svoje življenje.
14:18
And so then I went back into the research
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In tako sem se vrnila k raziskavi
14:20
and spent the next couple of years
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in se naslednji dve leti
14:22
really trying to understand what they, the whole-hearted,
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resnično trudila, da bi razumela, kaj oni, iskreni,
14:25
what choices they were making, and what we are doing with vulnerability.
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kako se odločajo,
in kaj počnemo
z ranljivostjo.
14:31
Why do we struggle with it so much?
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Zakaj se tako močno bojujemo z njo?
14:33
Am I alone in struggling with vulnerability?
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Ali sem sama v boju z ranljivostjo?
Ne.
14:37
No.
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14:38
So this is what I learned.
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Torej naučila sem se.
14:41
We numb vulnerability --
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Ranljivost otopimo --
14:44
when we're waiting for the call.
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ko čakamo na klic.
14:46
It was funny, I sent something out on Twitter and on Facebook
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Bilo je zabavno, ko sem na Twitter in Facebook poslala tekst:
"Kako bi opredelili ranljivost?
14:49
that says, "How would you define vulnerability?
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Zaradi česa se čutite ranljive?"
14:51
What makes you feel vulnerable?"
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In v uri in pol sem dobila 150 odgovorov.
14:53
And within an hour and a half, I had 150 responses.
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14:55
Because I wanted to know what's out there.
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Ker sem želela vedeti,
kaj je tam zunaj.
To, da moram moža prositi za pomoč,
15:01
Having to ask my husband for help because I'm sick, and we're newly married;
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ker sem bolna, in sva se šele pred kratkim poročila;
začeti seks s svojim možem;
15:06
initiating sex with my husband;
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15:08
initiating sex with my wife;
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začeti seks s svojo ženo;
da me nekdo odbije; povabiti nekoga na zmenek;
15:11
being turned down; asking someone out;
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čakanje na zdravnikov klic;
15:14
waiting for the doctor to call back;
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biti odpuščen; odpuščati zaposlene --
15:16
getting laid off; laying off people.
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15:18
This is the world we live in.
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to je svet, v katerem živimo.
15:20
We live in a vulnerable world.
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Živimo v ranljivem svetu.
15:23
And one of the ways we deal with it is we numb vulnerability.
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In eden izmed načinov, kako se soočamo z njim
je, da ranljivost otopimo.
15:27
And I think there's evidence --
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In mislim, da za to obstajajo dokazi --
15:29
and it's not the only reason this evidence exists,
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in ni edini razlog, da ti dokazi obstajajo,
15:31
but I think it's a huge cause --
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vendar mislim, da je pomemben razlog --
15:33
We are the most in-debt ...
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smo najbolj zadolžena,
predebela,
15:38
obese ...
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15:40
addicted and medicated adult cohort in U.S. history.
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odvisna in na zdravilih
odrasla kohorta v zgodovini ZDA.
15:48
The problem is -- and I learned this from the research --
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Težava je -- in do tega sem prišla z raziskavo --
15:51
that you cannot selectively numb emotion.
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da ne moreš selektivno otopeti čustev.
15:55
You can't say, here's the bad stuff.
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Ne moreš reči, tole je slabo.
15:58
Here's vulnerability, here's grief, here's shame,
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Tukaj je ranljivost, tukaj je žalovanje, tukaj je sram,
16:00
here's fear, here's disappointment.
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tukaj je strah, tukaj je razočaranje.
16:02
I don't want to feel these.
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Tega nočem čutiti.
16:04
I'm going to have a couple of beers and a banana nut muffin.
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Popil bom dve pivi in pojedel bananin-oreščkov mafin.
16:07
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
Tega nočem čutiti.
16:10
I don't want to feel these.
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16:11
And I know that's knowing laughter.
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In vem, da je ta smeh smeh zavedanja.
16:13
I hack into your lives for a living.
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Saj je moje delo takšno, da preučujemo vaša življenja.
16:16
God.
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Bog.
16:18
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
16:20
You can't numb those hard feelings
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Ne moremo otopeti teh težkih čustev,
16:23
without numbing the other affects, our emotions.
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ne da bi otopeli druga naša čustva.
Ne moremo selektivno otopeti.
16:26
You cannot selectively numb.
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16:27
So when we numb those,
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Torej, ko otopimo tista,
16:30
we numb joy,
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otopimo veselje,
otopimo hvaležnost,
16:33
we numb gratitude,
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16:34
we numb happiness.
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otopimo srečo.
In potem smo nesrečni
16:37
And then, we are miserable,
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in iščemo namen in smisel
16:40
and we are looking for purpose and meaning,
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in potem se čutimo ranljive
16:42
and then we feel vulnerable,
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16:43
so then we have a couple of beers and a banana nut muffin.
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in potem popijemo dve pivi in pojemo bananin-oreščkov mafin.
16:46
And it becomes this dangerous cycle.
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In to postane nevaren krog.
16:51
One of the things that I think we need to think about
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Ena izmed stvari, o kateri menim da moramo razmišljati
16:54
is why and how we numb.
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je, zakaj in kako otopimo čustva.
16:56
And it doesn't just have to be addiction.
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In ni nujno, da je to ravno z odvisnostjo.
Drugo kar počnemo
17:00
The other thing we do is we make everything that's uncertain certain.
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je, da vse negotove stvari naredimo gotove.
17:05
Religion has gone from a belief in faith and mystery to certainty.
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Religija se je razvila od verovanja v vero in skrivnost
do gotovosti.
17:10
"I'm right, you're wrong. Shut up."
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Jaz imam prav, ti nimaš prav. Utihni.
To je to.
17:14
That's it.
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Samo gotovost.
17:16
Just certain.
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Bolj ko nas je strah, bolj ranljivi smo,
17:18
The more afraid we are, the more vulnerable we are,
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bolj nas je strah.
17:20
the more afraid we are.
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Tako danes izgleda politika.
17:22
This is what politics looks like today.
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Ni več dialoga.
17:24
There's no discourse anymore.
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17:25
There's no conversation.
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Ni pogovora.
17:27
There's just blame.
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Samo še obtoževanje.
17:29
You know how blame is described in the research?
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Ali veste, kako opišemo obtoževanje v raziskovanju?
17:32
A way to discharge pain and discomfort.
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Način, da sprostimo bolečino in nelagodje.
Perfekcioniramo.
17:37
We perfect.
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17:38
If there's anyone who wants their life to look like this, it would be me,
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Če je kje kdo, ki bi želel, da njegovo življenje izgleda tako, sem to jaz,
vendar ne deluje.
17:42
but it doesn't work.
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17:43
Because what we do is we take fat from our butts and put it in our cheeks.
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Ker, jemljemo maščobo iz naših zadnjic
in jo dajemo v naša lica.
17:47
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
17:50
Which just, I hope in 100 years, people will look back and go, "Wow."
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Upam, da se bodo ljudje čez 100 let
ozrli nazaj na to in rekli: "vau".
17:54
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
17:56
And we perfect, most dangerously, our children.
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In perfekcioniramo, kar je najbolj nevarno,
svoje otroke.
18:00
Let me tell you what we think about children.
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Naj vam povem kako razmišljamo o otrocih.
18:02
They're hardwired for struggle when they get here.
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Ko pridejo sem so pripravljeni na napor.
18:05
And when you hold those perfect little babies in your hand,
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In ko držimo ta popolna majhna bitja v svoji roki,
18:08
our job is not to say, "Look at her, she's perfect.
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naša naloga ni, da rečemo: "Poglej jo, popolna je.
Moja naloga je, da jo ohranim popolno --
18:11
My job is just to keep her perfect --
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poskrbim, da bo do petega razreda članica teniškega tima in do sedmega razreda na Yale-u."
18:13
make sure she makes the tennis team by fifth grade and Yale by seventh."
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To ni naša naloga.
18:16
That's not our job.
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Our job is to look and say,
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Naša naloga je, da pogledamo in rečemo:
18:19
"You know what? You're imperfect, and you're wired for struggle,
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"Veš kaj? Nisi popolna in pripravljena si na napore,
18:22
but you are worthy of love and belonging."
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toda vredna si ljubezni in pripadanja.
To je naše delo.
18:25
That's our job.
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Pokažite mi generacijo otrok, ki so bili tako vzgojeni
18:27
Show me a generation of kids raised like that,
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in končali bomo težave, za katere verjamem, da jih danes imamo.
18:29
and we'll end the problems, I think, that we see today.
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We pretend that what we do doesn't have an effect on people.
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Pretvarjamo se, da to kar počnemo
nima vpliva na ljudi.
18:38
We do that in our personal lives.
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To počnemo v zasebnem živjenju.
18:40
We do that corporate --
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To počnemo v poslu --
18:41
whether it's a bailout, an oil spill ...
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pa naj bo to reševanje finančnih težav ali izlitje nafte,
odpoklic --
18:45
a recall.
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18:46
We pretend like what we're doing
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pretvarjamo se, da to kar počnemo
18:48
doesn't have a huge impact on other people.
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nima ogromnega vpliva na druge ljudi.
18:51
I would say to companies, this is not our first rodeo, people.
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Podjetjem bi rekla, to ni naš prvi rodeo ljudje.
18:55
We just need you to be authentic and real and say ...
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Želimo samo, da ste autentični in resnični
in rečete: "Žal nam je.
18:59
"We're sorry. We'll fix it."
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Uredili bomo."
19:05
But there's another way, and I'll leave you with this.
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Obstaja pa še ena pot, in s tem bom zaključila.
Ugotovila sem tole:
19:08
This is what I have found:
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19:09
To let ourselves be seen, deeply seen, vulnerably seen ...
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da si dovolimo, da smo videni,
globoko videni,
ranljivo videni;
19:16
to love with our whole hearts, even though there's no guarantee --
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da ljubimo z vsem svojim srcem,
čeprav ni zagotovila --
in to je resnično težko,
19:21
and that's really hard,
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19:22
and I can tell you as a parent, that's excruciatingly difficult --
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in kot starš vam lahko povem, da je nadvse težko --
da vadimo zahvalnost in radost
19:28
to practice gratitude and joy in those moments of terror,
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v teh trenutkih groze,
19:32
when we're wondering, "Can I love you this much?
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ko se sprašujemo: "Ali te lahko ljubim tako močno?
Ali lahko strastno verjamem v to?
19:35
Can I believe in this this passionately?
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Sem lahko tako silovit v tem?"
19:37
Can I be this fierce about this?"
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just to be able to stop and, instead of catastrophizing what might happen,
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Da smo sposobni ustaviti se in namesto, da bi kar se utegne zgoditi videli kot katastrofo,
reči: "Tako zelo sem hvaležen,
19:42
to say, "I'm just so grateful,
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because to feel this vulnerable means I'm alive."
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ker to da čutim takšno ranljivost, pomeni da sem živ."
19:48
And the last, which I think is probably the most important,
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In zadnje, kar menim, da je verjetno najpomebnejše
je, da verjamemo, da smo zadostni.
19:52
is to believe that we're enough.
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19:54
Because when we work from a place, I believe, that says, "I'm enough" ...
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Ker, kadar delujemo iz
prepričanja, ki pravi: "Zadosten sem",
20:00
then we stop screaming and start listening,
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prenehamo kričati in začnemo poslušati,
20:04
we're kinder and gentler to the people around us,
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prijaznejši smo in nežnejši do ljudi okoli nas
in prijaznejši in nežnejši smo do sebe.
20:07
and we're kinder and gentler to ourselves.
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To je vse kar imam. Hvala.
20:10
That's all I have. Thank you.
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20:11
(Applause)
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