The power of vulnerability | Brené Brown | TED

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Translator: olatz mercader Reviewer: Manex artola
Beno, honekin hasiko naiz
00:16
So, I'll start with this: a couple years ago, an event planner called me
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duela pare bat urte, ekitaldi antolatzaile batek deitu ninduen
hitzaldi bat ematera nindoalako
00:20
because I was going to do a speaking event.
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deitu zidan, eta esan zidan
00:22
And she called, and she said,
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"Benetan borrokan ari naiz
00:24
"I'm really struggling with how to write about you on the little flyer."
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gonbidapenerako zutaz idatzi behar dudanarekin"
00:27
And I thought, "Well, what's the struggle?"
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eta pentsatu nuen " Tira, zein da ba borroka hori?"
Eta esan zidan " Ba, hitzegiten ikusi zintudan"
00:30
And she said, "Well, I saw you speak,
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eta uste dut ikertzaile deituko zaitudala
00:32
and I'm going to call you a researcher, I think,
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00:34
but I'm afraid if I call you a researcher, no one will come,
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baina beldur naiz ikertzaile deitzen badizut inor ez dela etorriko
aspergarri eta hutsala zarela pentsatuko bait dute"
00:37
because they'll think you're boring and irrelevant."
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(Barreak)
00:40
(Laughter)
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Primeran.
00:41
And I was like, "Okay."
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00:42
And she said, "But the thing I liked about your talk
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Eta esan zidan " Baina zure hitzalditik gustatu zitzaidana
zu istorio kontalari bat zarela da
00:45
is you're a storyteller.
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00:46
So I think what I'll do is just call you a storyteller."
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beraz, uste dut istorio kontalari deituko zaitudala"
00:49
And of course, the academic, insecure part of me
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Eta noski, nire alderdi akademiko eta inseguruak
00:52
was like, "You're going to call me a what?"
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zion " zer deitu behar nauzula?"
Eta berak esan zidan " Istorio kontalari deituko zaitut"
00:55
And she said, "I'm going to call you a storyteller."
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00:57
And I was like, "Why not 'magic pixie'?"
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Eta nik " Eta zergatik ez iratxo magikoa?"
01:00
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
01:03
I was like, "Let me think about this for a second."
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Nik nion " Emaidazu segundu batez hontaz pentsatzeko"
Nire kuraia batzen saiatu
01:07
I tried to call deep on my courage.
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01:09
And I thought, you know, I am a storyteller.
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eta pentsatu nuen, istorio kontalari bat naiz.
01:12
I'm a qualitative researcher.
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Ikerlari kualitatiboa naiz
01:14
I collect stories; that's what I do.
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istorioak biltzen ditut, hori da egiten dudana.
01:16
And maybe stories are just data with a soul.
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Eta agian istorioak arima duten datuak besterik ez dira.
01:19
And maybe I'm just a storyteller.
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Eta agian istorio kontalari bat baino ez naiz.
01:21
And so I said, "You know what?
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Beraz esan nion, "Aizu,
01:23
Why don't you just say I'm a researcher-storyteller."
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zergatik ez duzu istorio kontalari ikerlaria naizela esaten?"
01:26
And she went, "Ha ha. There's no such thing."
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Eta erantzu zidan, "Jaja.Holakorik ez da esistitzen"
01:29
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
01:31
So I'm a researcher-storyteller, and I'm going to talk to you today --
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Beraz istorio kontalari ikerlaria naiz
eta gaur hitz egingo dizuet
01:35
we're talking about expanding perception --
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pertzepzioa zabaltzeaz hitz egiten ari gara
01:37
and so I want to talk to you and tell some stories
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beraz zuei hitz egin eta zenbait istorio kontatu nahi dizkizuet
nere pertzepzioa oinarritik zabaldu zuen
01:40
about a piece of my research that fundamentally expanded my perception
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nere ikerketaren zati bati buruz
01:45
and really actually changed the way that I live and love
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nere bizi eta maitatzeko,
01:48
and work and parent.
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lan egin eta guraso izateko era guztiz aldatuz
01:50
And this is where my story starts.
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Eta hemen hasten da nire istorioa.
01:52
When I was a young researcher, doctoral student,
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Ikerlari gaztea nintzela, doktoretza ikastaroan
01:55
my first year, I had a research professor who said to us,
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lehenengo urtean ikerkuntza irakasle bat izan nuen
esan ziguna
01:59
"Here's the thing, if you cannot measure it, it does not exist."
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"Hemen dago kakoa.
"Ezin baduzu neurtu, ez da esistitzen."
Zurikeritan zebilkidala pentsatzen nuen.
02:05
And I thought he was just sweet-talking me.
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" Benetan?" nion nik, eta berak "Erabat"
02:08
I was like, "Really?" and he was like, "Absolutely."
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02:10
And so you have to understand
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Eta tira, ulertu behar duzue
Gizarte langintzan lizentzua naizela, master bat ere badudala,
02:13
that I have a bachelor's and a master's in social work,
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eta nire doktaradutza lortzen ari nintzela,
02:15
and I was getting my Ph.D. in social work, so my entire academic career
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beraz nire karrera guztia
bizitza nahaspilotsua
02:19
was surrounded by people who kind of believed in the "life's messy, love it."
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dela pentsatzea maite duen
pertsonez inguratuta zegoen.
02:25
And I'm more of the, "life's messy, clean it up, organize it
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Eta ni gehiago naiz "Bizitza nahaspilotsua da,
garbitu ezazu, antolatu,
02:30
and put it into a bento box."
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eta Bento kaxa batean sartu" estilokoa
02:32
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
Eta pentsatu nuen nire bidea topatu nuela
02:35
And so to think that I had found my way, to found a career that takes me --
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betetzen ninduen karrera bat sortzeko.
02:40
really, one of the big sayings in social work is,
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zeren gizarte langintzan esaera handienetako bat
02:43
"Lean into the discomfort of the work."
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lanaren ezerosotasunean murgiltzea da
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And I'm like, knock discomfort upside the head
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eta nire kasuan, "Kolpe bat eman ezerosotasunari buruan,
02:49
and move it over and get all A's.
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baztertu zazu eta atera dena bikain"
02:51
That was my mantra.
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Hori zen nire mantra
02:54
So I was very excited about this.
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Beraz oso emozionatuta nengoen
02:56
And so I thought, you know what, this is the career for me,
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Eta pentsatu nuen, badakizu? hau da niretzako karrera egokia
02:59
because I am interested in some messy topics.
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zenbait gai nahaspilotsutan interesatua bait nago
03:02
But I want to be able to make them not messy.
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Baina gai hoiek ez nahaspilotsu bihurtzeko kapaz izan nahi dut
Ulertu nahi ditut
03:05
I want to understand them.
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03:06
I want to hack into these things that I know are important
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Gauza hauek arakatu nahi ditut
Badakit garrantzitsuak direla
03:10
and lay the code out for everyone to see.
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eta kodea deszifratu guztiek ikusi dezaten
03:12
So where I started was with connection.
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Beraz, konexioarekin hasi nintzen
03:15
Because, by the time you're a social worker for 10 years,
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Zeren, 10 urtez gizate langitzan jardun bazara
gauza batetaz jabetzen zara
03:19
what you realize is that connection is why we're here.
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eta da konexioa dela gu hemen egotearen arrazoia
03:23
It's what gives purpose and meaning to our lives.
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horrek ematen dio helburu eta zentzua gure bizitzari
Hortaz doa guztia.
03:27
This is what it's all about.
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03:28
It doesn't matter whether you talk to people
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Ez dio inporta, ze arlotan lan egiten duen jendearekin hitzegiten duzun
gizarte-justizia, adimen-osasun edo abusu eta utzikerian,
03:31
who work in social justice, mental health and abuse and neglect,
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dakiguna da konexioa dela eta
03:34
what we know is that connection, the ability to feel connected, is --
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konektatuta sentitzeko gaitasunagatik
-neurobiologikoki horrela eratuta bait gaude-
03:39
neurobiologically that's how we're wired --
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03:41
it's why we're here.
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gaudela hemen.
03:43
So I thought, you know what, I'm going to start with connection.
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Beraz pentsatu nuen, badakizu? Konexiotik hasiko naiz
Ezaguna zaizue egoera hau:
03:47
Well, you know that situation
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03:48
where you get an evaluation from your boss,
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Zure nagusiak zure lana ebaluatzen du
03:51
and she tells you 37 things that you do really awesome,
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eta ikaragarri ondo egiten dituzun 37 gauza aipatzen dizkizu
03:54
and one "opportunity for growth?"
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eta - "hazteko aukera" bat
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(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
eta zuk hazteko aukera hortan besterik ezin duzu pentatu, ezta?
03:59
And all you can think about is that opportunity for growth, right?
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04:02
Well, apparently this is the way my work went as well,
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Tira, itxuraz nire lanari ere horixe gertatu zitzaion
04:05
because, when you ask people about love, they tell you about heartbreak.
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zeren, jendeari maitasunaz galdetzen diozunean
bihotz urratuez hitzegiten dizute
04:10
When you ask people about belonging,
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jendeari pertenentziari buruz galdetzen diozunean
bere esperientzia jasangaitzenak kontatuko dizkizute
04:13
they'll tell you their most excruciating experiences of being excluded.
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bazterketari buruz
04:17
And when you ask people about connection,
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Eta jendeari konexioaz galdetzen diozunean
04:19
the stories they told me were about disconnection.
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kontatzen dituzten istoriak deskonexioari buruzkoak dira
Beraz oso azkar- ikerketan hasi eta sei astetara
04:23
So very quickly -- really about six weeks into this research --
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izenik gabeko zera horrekin egin nuen topo
04:26
I ran into this unnamed thing that absolutely unraveled connection
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korapilotik askatu gabeko konexio bat
aurretik sekula ulertu edo ikusi ez nuena
04:32
in a way that I didn't understand or had never seen.
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Berez ikerketa bertan behera utzi
04:35
And so I pulled back out of the research
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eta pentsatu nuen, hau zer den ulertu beharra daukat.
04:37
and thought, I need to figure out what this is.
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04:39
And it turned out to be shame.
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Lotsa zela nabarmendu zen
Eta lotsa oso errez uler daiteke:
04:43
And shame is really easily understood as the fear of disconnection:
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deskonexioari zaion beldurra.
Bada nigan zerbait
04:47
Is there something about me that, if other people know it or see it,
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besteek ezagutu edo ikusten badute
04:51
that I won't be worthy of connection?
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konexioa jasotzeko ez-duin egingo nauena
Horri buruz esan dezakedana da
04:55
The things I can tell you about it:
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unibertsala dela, denok daukagu
04:57
It's universal; we all have it.
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04:58
The only people who don't experience shame
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Lotsa ezagutzen ez duten pertsonek
ez daukate giza enpatia eta konexiorako ahalmenik
05:01
have no capacity for human empathy or connection.
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Inork ez du hortaz hitzegin nahi
05:03
No one wants to talk about it,
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05:04
and the less you talk about it, the more you have it.
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eta orduan eta gutxiago hitzegin hortaz, orduan eta gehiago daukazu
05:09
What underpinned this shame, this "I'm not good enough," --
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Lotsa honek oinarri bat badu
"Ez naiz behar bezain ona" hori
denok ezagutzen dugun sentimendua
05:14
which, we all know that feeling:
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05:15
"I'm not blank enough. I'm not thin enough,
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" Ez naiz behar bezain trinkoa. Ez naiz behar bezain argala
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rich enough, beautiful enough, smart enough, promoted enough."
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behar bezain aberatsa, ederra, dotorea,
ez naute behar bezala promozionatu"
05:21
The thing that underpinned this was excruciating vulnerability.
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Guzti honen oinarrian
bulnerabilitate jasanezina zegoen
05:26
This idea of, in order for connection to happen,
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konexioa gertatu ahal izateko
gure burua ikusgai,
05:30
we have to allow ourselves to be seen, really seen.
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benetan eta sakonki ikusgai jartzea
beharrezkoa delako ideia
Eta badakizue zer sentitzen dudan bulnerabilitatari buruz. Gorroto dut.
05:36
And you know how I feel about vulnerability. I hate vulnerability.
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Beraz pentsaatu nuen, hau da nire aukera.
05:39
And so I thought, this is my chance to beat it back with my measuring stick.
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nere neurtzeko makilarekin garaituko dut.
05:43
I'm going in, I'm going to figure this stuff out,
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Sartzera noa, gauzak nola funtzionatzen duen ulertuko dut
05:46
I'm going to spend a year, I'm going to totally deconstruct shame,
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urte bat iragango dut, eta erabat dekonstruituko dut lotsa,
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I'm going to understand how vulnerability works,
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bulnerabilidadeak nola lan egiten duen ulertuko dut,
eta bera baino azkarragoa izango naiz.
05:52
and I'm going to outsmart it.
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05:54
So I was ready, and I was really excited.
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Beraz prest nengoen, eta benetan emozionatuta.
Dakizuen bezela, honek ez du ondo bukatuko
06:00
As you know, it's not going to turn out well.
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(Barreak)
06:02
(Laughter)
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06:04
You know this.
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Badakizue.
06:06
So, I could tell you a lot about shame,
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Gauza asko esan ditzazket lotsari buruz
06:08
but I'd have to borrow everyone else's time.
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baina beste norbaiten denbora beharko nuke hortarako
06:10
But here's what I can tell you that it boils down to --
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baina hontara laburtzen dela esan diezazueket
06:13
and this may be one of the most important things that I've ever learned
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eta agian ikerketa hau egiten iragan dudan hamarkada hontan
06:16
in the decade of doing this research.
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ikasi dudan gauzarik garrantzitsuena da
Nere urte hori
06:20
My one year turned into six years:
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sei urteko lanean bilakatu zen
milaka istorio
06:24
Thousands of stories, hundreds of long interviews, focus groups.
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ehundaka elkarrizketa luze, talde fokalak,
06:28
At one point, people were sending me journal pages
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Jendeak bere egunerokoen orriak bidaltzen zizkidan
bere istorioak igortzen zizkidan
06:31
and sending me their stories --
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06:33
thousands of pieces of data in six years.
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milaka datu sei urtetan
eta nolabait ulertzea lortu nuen
06:37
And I kind of got a handle on it.
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06:38
I kind of understood, this is what shame is, this is how it works.
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nolabiat konprenitu nuen, hau da lotsa
honela funtzionatzen du.
Liburu bat idatzi nuen,
06:43
I wrote a book, I published a theory, but something was not okay --
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teoria bat argitaratu nuen,
baina zerbait ez zebilen ondo
06:49
and what it was is that, if I roughly took the people I interviewed
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eta honokoa zen
elkarrizketatutako jendea orokorrean
06:53
and divided them into people who really have a sense of worthiness --
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sailkatzen banuen
bere burua baloratzeko zeukaten eraren arabera
hau zen emaitza
07:00
that's what this comes down to, a sense of worthiness --
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alde batetik, balio izatearen sentimendua
07:03
they have a strong sense of love and belonging --
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maitasun eta pertenentzia zentzu indartsua dutenak
07:06
and folks who struggle for it,
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eta horregatik borrokatzen duen jendea
07:08
and folks who are always wondering if they're good enough.
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etengabe bere buruari behar bezain onak ote diren galdezka dabilen jendea
Aldagai bakarrak
07:11
There was only one variable that separated
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bereitzen zituen
07:13
the people who have a strong sense of love and belonging
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maitasun eta pertenentzia zentzu sendoa zuen jendea
07:16
and the people who really struggle for it.
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eta horrekin borrokan zebilena
07:18
And that was, the people who have a strong sense of love and belonging
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eta honokoa zen,
maitasun eta pertenentzia zentzu sendoa duen jendeak
07:22
believe they're worthy of love and belonging.
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maitasuna eta pertenentzia merezi dituela uste du
07:25
That's it.
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Hori da
07:27
They believe they're worthy.
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Balio edo merezi dutela uste dute.
07:30
And to me, the hard part of the one thing that keeps us out of connection
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Eta niretzako, konexioz kanpo uzten gaituen
elementuaren alderdirik gogorrena
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is our fear that we're not worthy of connection,
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konexio hori merezi ez izatearen beldurra da,
07:39
was something that, personally and professionally,
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pertsonalki eta profesionalki
hobeto ulertu behar nuela sentitzen nuen
07:42
I felt like I needed to understand better.
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07:44
So what I did is I took all of the interviews
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Orduan
pena merezi eta balio zutela pentsatuz bizi ziren pertsonen
07:49
where I saw worthiness, where I saw people living that way,
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elkarrizketak hartu nituen
07:52
and just looked at those.
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eta hoiek bakarrik aztertu nituen.
07:55
What do these people have in common?
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Zer dute pertsona guzti hauek amankomunean?
07:57
I have a slight office supply addiction, but that's another talk.
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Bulego materialari adikzio txiki bat diot
baina horri beste hitzaldi bat izango litzateke
08:02
So I had a manila folder, and I had a Sharpie,
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Karpeta bat eta arkatz bat nituen eskuan
08:05
and I was like, what am I going to call this research?
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eta nion, nola deituko dut ikerketa hau?
Burura etorri zitzaizkidan lehenengo hitzak
08:08
And the first words that came to my mind were "whole-hearted."
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"bihotz-betedunak" izan ziren
08:11
These are whole-hearted people, living from this deep sense of worthiness.
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bihotz-betedunak, merezi izatearen zentzu sakon horrekin bizi direnak
Beraz hori idatzi nuen karpetaren gainkaldean,
08:15
So I wrote at the top of the manila folder,
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eta datuak aztertzen hasi nintzen
08:18
and I started looking at the data.
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Hortik hasi nintzen
08:20
In fact, I did it first in a four-day, very intensive data analysis,
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lau egun iraun zituen
datu-analisi intentso batean
08:26
where I went back, pulled the interviews, the stories, pulled the incidents.
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non berreskuratu nituen elkarrizketak, istorioak, inzidenteak
08:29
What's the theme? What's the pattern?
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Zein da da gaia?
08:32
My husband left town with the kids
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Nere senarrak eta umeak herritik aldegin zuten
08:35
because I always go into this Jackson Pollock crazy thing,
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Jackson Pollock estiloko eromenean sartzen bait naiz
08:38
where I'm just writing and in my researcher mode.
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non idatzi besterik ez dudan egiten
nire ikerlari moduan murgilduta
08:43
And so here's what I found.
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Eta hemen da topatu nuena
Amankomunean zeukatena
08:48
What they had in common was a sense of courage.
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kuraia zentzua zen
08:51
And I want to separate courage and bravery for you for a minute.
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eta kuraia eta ausardia bereizi nahi nituzke minutu batez
08:54
Courage, the original definition of courage,
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""courage", kuraiaren jatorrizko definizioa
ingelesera iritsi zenean
08:57
when it first came into the English language --
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latinezko "cor" hitzetik zetorren, bihotza
08:59
it's from the Latin word "cor," meaning "heart" --
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09:01
and the original definition was to tell the story of who you are
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eta jatorrizko definizioan hau esan nahi zuen:
zein zaren azaltzen duen istorioa bihotz betearekin kontatzea
09:04
with your whole heart.
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Eta tipo hauek
09:07
And so these folks had, very simply, the courage to be imperfect.
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sinpleki, bazuten kuraia
inperfektu izateko
09:13
They had the compassion to be kind to themselves first and then to others,
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Konpasioa zuten
lehenik bere buruarekin eta ondoren besteekin zintzo izateko
09:18
because, as it turns out,
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zeren, nabarmentzen den bezala, ezin dugu besteekin konpasiorik izan
09:19
we can't practice compassion with other people
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ez badugu gure burua goxotasunez tratatzen
09:22
if we can't treat ourselves kindly.
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09:24
And the last was they had connection, and -- this was the hard part --
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Eta azkenik, konexioa zuten
eta - hau zen zatirik gogorrena-
09:28
as a result of authenticity,
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bere autentizitatearen ondorioz
09:31
they were willing to let go of who they thought they should be
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izan beharko luketenari buruzko ideiak baztertzeko desiatzen zeuden
09:34
in order to be who they were, which you have to absolutely do that
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benetan zirenak izan ahal izateko
eta hori erabat egin beharra daukazu
09:39
for connection.
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konektatu ahal izateko.
09:43
The other thing that they had in common was this:
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Beste zerbait ere bazuten amankomunean
eta hau zen
09:50
They fully embraced vulnerability.
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Bulnerabilitatea erabat besarkatzen zuten
09:55
They believed that what made them vulnerable made them beautiful.
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Sinisten zuten
bulnerable egiten zituen horrek berak
eder egiten zituela
Ez zioten bulnerabilitatea
10:06
They didn't talk about vulnerability being comfortable,
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eroso zenik
10:09
nor did they really talk about it being excruciating --
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baina ezta jasanezina zenik ere,
10:12
as I had heard it earlier in the shame interviewing.
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lotsari buruzko elkarrizketetan entzuten nuen bezala
Solik beharrezkoa zela zioten
10:15
They just talked about it being necessary.
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10:18
They talked about the willingness to say, "I love you" first ...
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hitzegiten zuten
"maite zaitut" lehenik esateko nahiaz
inolako garantiarik
10:24
the willingness to do something where there are no guarantees ...
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eskeintzen ez duen
zerbait egiteko irrikaz
10:31
the willingness to breathe through waiting for the doctor to call
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mamografia baten ondoren
medikuaren deiaren zai zauden bitartean
10:35
after your mammogram.
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arnasa hartzeko irrikaz
10:38
They're willing to invest in a relationship
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Harreman batean inbertitzeko prest daude
10:41
that may or may not work out.
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ondo edo gaizki aterako den neurtu gabe
10:44
They thought this was fundamental.
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Hau oinarrizkoa dela uste dute
10:47
I personally thought it was betrayal.
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Nik pertsonalki, traizioa zela uste nuen
10:50
I could not believe I had pledged allegiance to research, where our job --
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ikerketari erabateko fideltasuna
hitz eman bait nion
10:55
you know, the definition of research is to control and predict,
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eta ikerketaren definizioa
kontrolatu eta aurresatea da, fenomenoak estudiatzea
10:59
to study phenomena for the explicit reason to control and predict.
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kontrolatu eta aurresateko
arrazoi zehatzagatik
11:04
And now my mission to control and predict
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eta orain, kontrolatu eta aurresan ahal izateko
ekin dudan misioaren emaitza
11:08
had turned up the answer that the way to live is with vulnerability
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bulnerabilitatearekin bizi behar dela da
eta kontrolatu eta aurresateari utzi.
11:12
and to stop controlling and predicting.
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11:14
This led to a little breakdown --
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Honek krisialdi txiki bat sortu zidan
11:16
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
11:21
-- which actually looked more like this.
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--tira, honen antza gehiago zeukan
11:24
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
11:26
And it did.
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Bai, antza gehio zeukan
11:28
I call it a breakdown; my therapist calls it a spiritual awakening.
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Krisialdi deitu nion, nere terapeutak iratzartze espirituala deitzen zion
11:31
(Laughter)
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11:32
A spiritual awakening sounds better than breakdown,
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Iratzartze espiritualak krisialdiak baino hobeto ematen du belarrira
baina zin egiten dizuet krisialdi bat izan zela.
11:35
but I assure you, it was a breakdown.
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Datu guztiak alde batera utzi eta terapeuta bat bilatu behar nuen
11:37
And I had to put my data away and go find a therapist.
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Utzidazue zerbait esaten: Nor zaren jakingo duzu
11:40
Let me tell you something: you know who you are
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zure lagunei deitu eta "Norbait ikusi behar dut" esaten diezunean
11:42
when you call your friends and say, "I think I need to see somebody.
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"Gomendatuko zenidake norbait?"
11:45
Do you have any recommendations?"
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11:47
Because about five of my friends were like,
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Zeren bost lagunek edo erantzun zidaten
11:49
"Wooo, I wouldn't want to be your therapist."
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"UF!!! Ez nuek zure terapeuta izan nahi"
11:51
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
11:54
I was like, "What does that mean?"
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"Zer esan nahi du horrek" nion?
11:56
And they're like, "I'm just saying, you know.
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eta beraiek " Zera bakarrik esan nahi nuke, badakizu?
11:59
Don't bring your measuring stick."
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Ez eraman zure neurtzeko makila zurekin!"
12:01
(Laughter)
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"Ados" esan nuen
12:04
I was like, "Okay."
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12:06
So I found a therapist.
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Terapeuta bat bilatu nuen
12:08
My first meeting with her, Diana --
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Diana, gure lehen elkarrizketara
bihotz betekoak bizi ziren erari buruzko
12:12
I brought in my list of the way the whole-hearted live, and I sat down.
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zerrenda eraman nuen, eseri nintzen
12:16
And she said, "How are you?"
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eta esan zidan " Zer moduz zaude?"
12:18
And I said, "I'm great. I'm okay."
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eta nik. "Primera nago, oso ondo"
12:21
She said, "What's going on?"
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esan zidan "Zer gertatzen da?"
12:23
And this is a therapist who sees therapists,
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Terapeutak tratatzen dituen terapeuta bat da
12:26
because we have to go to those, because their B.S. meters are good.
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guk haiengana jo behar dugu
txorakeriak antzematen hobeak bait dira
12:31
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
12:33
And so I said, "Here's the thing, I'm struggling."
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Eta esan nuen
" Hauxe da gauza, borrokan ari naiz"
12:37
And she said, "What's the struggle?"
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Eta berak " Zein da borroka?"
Ata nik " Tira, bulnerabilitate arazo bat daukat
12:40
And I said, "Well, I have a vulnerability issue.
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12:42
And I know that vulnerability is the core of shame and fear
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Eta badakit bulnerabilitatea muina dela
beldur eta lotsaren muina
balio izateagatiko gure burrukaren muina
12:48
and our struggle for worthiness,
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12:49
but it appears that it's also the birthplace of joy, of creativity,
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baina baita ere badirudi sorlekua dela
poza eta sormenaren,
12:55
of belonging, of love.
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pertenentzia eta maitasunaren sorlekua
12:57
And I think I have a problem, and I need some help."
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eta uste dut arazo bat dudala
eta laguntza pixkat behar dut"
Eta esan nuen " Baina horixe da dena
13:03
And I said, "But here's the thing: no family stuff, no childhood shit."
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ez famili kalakarik
ez haurtzaroko kakarik"
13:08
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
13:10
"I just need some strategies."
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"Estrategia batzu baino ez ditut behar"
13:13
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
13:17
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
Eskerrikasko
13:21
Thank you.
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13:24
So she goes like this.
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Eta berak horrela egiten du
13:27
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
13:29
And then I said, "It's bad, right?"
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Eta orduan nik diot " Txarra da, ezta?"
13:32
And she said, "It's neither good nor bad."
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Eta berak "Ez da ez txarra ez ona"
13:35
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
13:37
"It just is what it is."
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" Dena besterik ez da"
13:39
And I said, "Oh my God, this is going to suck."
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Eta nik " Ene Jainkoa, hau zeharo gogaikarria izango da"
13:42
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
13:45
And it did, and it didn't.
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Eta izan zen, eta ez zen izan
13:47
And it took about a year.
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Urte bete behar izan nuen
13:49
And you know how there are people
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Eta badakizue nola zenbait pertsona
13:51
that, when they realize that vulnerability and tenderness are important,
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bulnerabilitatea eta xamurtasuna garrantzitsuak direla ohartu eta
errenditu eta bertan murgiltzen diren?
13:56
that they surrender and walk into it.
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A: Hori ez naiz ni
13:59
A: that's not me,
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B: Horrelakoa den jendearekin ez naiz ibili ere egiten.
14:01
and B: I don't even hang out with people like that.
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14:03
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
14:06
For me, it was a yearlong street fight.
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Neretzako urtebeteko kale borroka izan zen
14:09
It was a slugfest.
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Lehia bat izan zen
14:11
Vulnerability pushed, I pushed back.
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Bulnerabilitateak bultzatzen zuen, nik bultzada itzultzen nuen
14:13
I lost the fight,
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Borroka galdu nuen
14:16
but probably won my life back.
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baina seguruaski nire bizitza berreskuratu nuen
14:18
And so then I went back into the research
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Beraz, ikerketara itzuli nintzen
14:20
and spent the next couple of years
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Eta pare bat urte eman nituen
14:22
really trying to understand what they, the whole-hearted,
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Bihotz-betekoak ulertzen saiatzen,
14:25
what choices they were making, and what we are doing with vulnerability.
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sein diren egiten dituzten aukeraketak
eta zer egiten ari garen
bulnerabilitatearekin.
14:31
Why do we struggle with it so much?
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Zergatik borrokatzen dugu hainbeste horrekin?
14:33
Am I alone in struggling with vulnerability?
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Ni bakarrik ari al naiz bulnerabilitatearekin borrokan?
Ez
14:37
No.
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14:38
So this is what I learned.
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Hau da ikasi nuena
14:41
We numb vulnerability --
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Bulnerabilitatea sorgortzen dugu
14:44
when we're waiting for the call.
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--deiaren zai gaudenean
14:46
It was funny, I sent something out on Twitter and on Facebook
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Barregarria izan zen, Twitter eta Facebook bidez galdetu nuen
"Nola definituko zenuke bulnerabilitatea?"
14:49
that says, "How would you define vulnerability?
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"Zerk egiten zaitu bulneragarri?"
14:51
What makes you feel vulnerable?"
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ordu t´erdian, 150 erantzun nituen
14:53
And within an hour and a half, I had 150 responses.
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14:55
Because I wanted to know what's out there.
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Jakin nahi nuen
zer zegoen hor kanpoan
"Nere senarrari laguntza eskatzeak
15:01
Having to ask my husband for help because I'm sick, and we're newly married;
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gaixo nagoelako, eta ezkonberriak gara"
"nire senarrarekin sexua praktikatzen hasteak"
15:06
initiating sex with my husband;
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15:08
initiating sex with my wife;
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"nire emaztearekin sexua praktikatzen hasteak"
"baztertua izateak", "norbaiti geratzeko eskatzeak"
15:11
being turned down; asking someone out;
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"medikuak dei diezadan itxoiteak"
15:14
waiting for the doctor to call back;
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"lanetik kaleratua izateak", "jendea kaleratu beharrak"
15:16
getting laid off; laying off people.
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15:18
This is the world we live in.
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hau da hizi dugun mundua.
15:20
We live in a vulnerable world.
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Mundu bulnerable batean bizi gara
15:23
And one of the ways we deal with it is we numb vulnerability.
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eta bulnerabilitatea maneiatzeko darabilgun eratako bat
bulnerabilitatea sorgortzea da
15:27
And I think there's evidence --
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Eta uste dut ebidentzia dagoela
15:29
and it's not the only reason this evidence exists,
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-----eta ez da ebidentzi hau izatearen arrazoi bakarra
15:31
but I think it's a huge cause --
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baina garrantzitsuenetakoa dela uste dut-----
15:33
We are the most in-debt ...
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EE.BB.ko istorio guztian izan den
heldu talderik zorpetuena,
15:38
obese ...
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15:40
addicted and medicated adult cohort in U.S. history.
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lodiena, adiktuena,
eta medikatuena gara
15:48
The problem is -- and I learned this from the research --
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Arazoa da- eta hontaz ikerketan konturatu nintzen--
15:51
that you cannot selectively numb emotion.
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ezin dituzula emozioak selektiboki sorgortu.
15:55
You can't say, here's the bad stuff.
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Ezin duzu esan, hemen daude gauza txarrak
15:58
Here's vulnerability, here's grief, here's shame,
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hemen daude bulnerabilitatea, pena, lotsa
16:00
here's fear, here's disappointment.
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hemen dago beldurra, hemen dezepzioa
16:02
I don't want to feel these.
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Ez ditut sentitu nahi.
16:04
I'm going to have a couple of beers and a banana nut muffin.
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Zerbeza pare bat edan eta platano eta intxaur opil bat jatera noa
16:07
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
Ez ditut sentitu nahi.
16:10
I don't want to feel these.
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16:11
And I know that's knowing laughter.
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Eta badakit barre hoiek ezagutza-barreak direla.
16:13
I hack into your lives for a living.
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Zuen bizitzatan arakatzea da nire ofizioa.
16:16
God.
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Jainkoa.
16:18
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
16:20
You can't numb those hard feelings
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Ezin dituzu sentimendu latz hoiek sorgortu
16:23
without numbing the other affects, our emotions.
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afektuak eta emozioak sorgortu gabe.
Ezin duzu selektiboki sorgortu
16:26
You cannot selectively numb.
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16:27
So when we numb those,
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Beraz lehenengoak sorgortzean
16:30
we numb joy,
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zoriona sorgortzen dugu
esker ona sorgortzen dugu
16:33
we numb gratitude,
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16:34
we numb happiness.
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zoriona sorgortzen dugu.
Eta orduan lur jota sentitzen gara,
16:37
And then, we are miserable,
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helburu eta esanahi baten bila hasten gara
16:40
and we are looking for purpose and meaning,
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eta orduan bulnerable sentitzen gara
16:42
and then we feel vulnerable,
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16:43
so then we have a couple of beers and a banana nut muffin.
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eta orduan, zerbeza pare bat eta platano eta intxaur opil bat hartzen ditugu.
16:46
And it becomes this dangerous cycle.
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Eta benetan ziklo arriskutsua bilakatzen da
16:51
One of the things that I think we need to think about
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Pentsatu beharrekoak ditugun gauzetatik bat
16:54
is why and how we numb.
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zergatik eta nola sorgortzen dugun da.
16:56
And it doesn't just have to be addiction.
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Eta ez dauka zertan adikzio bat izan beharrik.
Egiten dugun beste gauza bat
17:00
The other thing we do is we make everything that's uncertain certain.
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ziurrak ez diren gauzak ziur bihurtzea da.
17:05
Religion has gone from a belief in faith and mystery to certainty.
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Erlijioa fede eta misterioan oinarritutako sinismena izatetik
ziurtasuna izatera pasa da.
17:10
"I'm right, you're wrong. Shut up."
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Zuzen nabil, oker zaude. Ixil zaitez.
Hori da guztia.
17:14
That's it.
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Ziurtasuna soilik
17:16
Just certain.
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Orduan eta beldur gehiago izan, orduan eta
17:18
The more afraid we are, the more vulnerable we are,
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bulnerableago izan
17:20
the more afraid we are.
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Horrelakoa da politika gaur egun.
17:22
This is what politics looks like today.
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Jada ez dago diskurtsorik.
17:24
There's no discourse anymore.
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17:25
There's no conversation.
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Ez dago elkarrizketarik.
17:27
There's just blame.
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Erruen leporatzea soilik.
17:29
You know how blame is described in the research?
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Badakizue ikerketak nola definitzen duen erruak leporatzea ?
17:32
A way to discharge pain and discomfort.
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Mina eta ezerosotasuna deskargatzeko era bat
Perfekzionatu egiten dugu
17:37
We perfect.
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17:38
If there's anyone who wants their life to look like this, it would be me,
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Nere bizitzak itxura hori izatea gustatuko litzaidake
baina ez du funtzionatzen.
17:42
but it doesn't work.
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17:43
Because what we do is we take fat from our butts and put it in our cheeks.
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Zeren eta gantza ipurditik atera
eta gure masailetan jartzen dugu
17:47
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
17:50
Which just, I hope in 100 years, people will look back and go, "Wow."
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Espero dut ehun bat urtean
jendeak atzera begiratuko duela eta esan "Uau!!"
17:54
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
17:56
And we perfect, most dangerously, our children.
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Eta askoz arriskutsuagoa dena
gure haurrak perfekzionatzen ditugu.
18:00
Let me tell you what we think about children.
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Utzidazue haurrei buruz pentsazen dudana esaten
18:02
They're hardwired for struggle when they get here.
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Jaiotzen direnean borrokarako egituratuta daude
18:05
And when you hold those perfect little babies in your hand,
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Eta haurtxo perfektu hoiek besotan hartzen ditugunean
18:08
our job is not to say, "Look at her, she's perfect.
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gure lana ez da honokoa " Begira iezaiozu, perfektua da!
Nire lana perfektu mantentzea da soilik---
18:11
My job is just to keep her perfect --
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14 urterekin tenis taldean eta 17-rekin Yalen onartuko dutela ziurtatzea."
18:13
make sure she makes the tennis team by fifth grade and Yale by seventh."
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Hori ez da gure lana.
18:16
That's not our job.
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18:17
Our job is to look and say,
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Gure lana begiratu eta hau esatea da:
18:19
"You know what? You're imperfect, and you're wired for struggle,
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"Badakizu? Inperfektua zara, eta borrokarako jaio zara
18:22
but you are worthy of love and belonging."
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baina maitasuna eta pertenentzia merezi dituzu".
Hori da gure lana
18:25
That's our job.
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Erakutsidazue horrela hazitako ume belaunaldi bat
18:27
Show me a generation of kids raised like that,
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eta gaur egun ikusten ditugun arazoak desagertuko lirateke.
18:29
and we'll end the problems, I think, that we see today.
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18:31
We pretend that what we do doesn't have an effect on people.
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Sinistu nahi dugu guk egiten dugunak
ez duela besteengan eraginik.
18:38
We do that in our personal lives.
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Hau gure bizitza pertsonalean egiten dugu.
18:40
We do that corporate --
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Baita enpresa mailan ere---
18:41
whether it's a bailout, an oil spill ...
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berdin dio finantza- erreskate bat izan, petrolio-isuri bat
edo kargu-kentze bat,
18:45
a recall.
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18:46
We pretend like what we're doing
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guk egiten dugunak besteengan
18:48
doesn't have a huge impact on other people.
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eraginik izango ez duenaren itxura egiten dugu
18:51
I would say to companies, this is not our first rodeo, people.
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Korporazioei esango nieke, aizue, ez gara hain inozoak
18:55
We just need you to be authentic and real and say ...
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Autentiko eta zintzo izan zaitezten behar dugu
eta esan " Sentitzen dugu"
18:59
"We're sorry. We'll fix it."
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" Konponduko dugu"
19:05
But there's another way, and I'll leave you with this.
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Baina bada beste bide bat, eta honekin uzten zaituztet
Hau da aurkitu dudana:
19:08
This is what I have found:
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19:09
To let ourselves be seen, deeply seen, vulnerably seen ...
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Gure burua ikus dezaten uztea
sakonki ikus dezaten
gure bulnerabilitatearekin ikus gaitzaten
19:16
to love with our whole hearts, even though there's no guarantee --
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bihotz betearekin maitatzea
inolako garantiarik ez dagoen arren-----
eta hori oso gogorra da
19:21
and that's really hard,
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19:22
and I can tell you as a parent, that's excruciatingly difficult --
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guraso bezela, hau ikaragarri gogorra da
esker ona eta zoriona praktikatu
19:28
to practice gratitude and joy in those moments of terror,
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zenbait unetan ikara sentitzen badugu
19:32
when we're wondering, "Can I love you this much?
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" Hainbeste maite al zaitzaket?" pentsatzean
"Hontaz hainbeste pasiorekin sinetsi al dezaket?"
19:35
Can I believe in this this passionately?
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"Honi buruz hain intenso izan al naiteke?"
19:37
Can I be this fierce about this?"
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19:39
just to be able to stop and, instead of catastrophizing what might happen,
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gerta litekeena katastrofizatu ordez, gelditzeko kapazak izan eta
esan " Zeharo esker oneko sentitzen naiz
19:42
to say, "I'm just so grateful,
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19:44
because to feel this vulnerable means I'm alive."
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hain bulnerable sentitzeak bizirik nagoela esan nahi bait du"
19:48
And the last, which I think is probably the most important,
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Eta azkenik, nire iritziz garrantzitsuena dena:
aski garela sinistea
19:52
is to believe that we're enough.
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19:54
Because when we work from a place, I believe, that says, "I'm enough" ...
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Zeren eta lanean hasten garenean
"pena merezi dut", "aski naiz" abiapuntu hortatik
20:00
then we stop screaming and start listening,
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oihu egiteari utzi eta entzuten hasten gara,
20:04
we're kinder and gentler to the people around us,
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zintzoago eta goxoago gara gure ingurukoekin
eta zintzoago eta goxoago gara gure buruarekin.
20:07
and we're kinder and gentler to ourselves.
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Hau da dudan guztia. Eskerrikasko
20:10
That's all I have. Thank you.
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20:11
(Applause)
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(Txaloak).
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