Your Body Language May Shape Who You Are | Amy Cuddy | TED

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Prevoditelj: Mislav Ante Omazić - EFZG Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
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So I want to start by offering you a free no-tech life hack,
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Započeti ću tako da vam ponudim nešto besplatno,
netehnički trik,
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and all it requires of you is this:
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sve što trebate napraviti
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that you change your posture for two minutes.
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jest promjeniti svoje držanje na dvije minute.
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But before I give it away, I want to ask you to right now
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No prije nego vam to dam, želim vas odmah pitati
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do a little audit of your body and what you're doing with your body.
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da napravite malu kontrolu svog tijela i što radite s njime.
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So how many of you are sort of making yourselves smaller?
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Dakle, koliko vas se pravi da su manji?
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Maybe you're hunching, crossing your legs, maybe wrapping your ankles.
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Možda ste pogrbljeni, prekrižili ste noge,
možda ste zapleli gležnjeve.
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Sometimes we hold onto our arms like this.
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Ponekad ovako držimo svoje ruke.
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Sometimes we spread out. (Laughter)
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Ponekad se širimo. (Smijeh)
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I see you.
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Vidim vas. (Smijeh)
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So I want you to pay attention to what you're doing right now.
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Dakle želim obratiti pažnju na ono što baš sada radite.
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We're going to come back to that in a few minutes,
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Vratiti ćemo se na to za nekoliko minuta,
i nadam se da ukoliko naučite to malo podesiti,
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and I'm hoping that if you learn to tweak this a little bit,
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it could significantly change the way your life unfolds.
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to može značajno utjecati na to kako će se vaš život razvijati.
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So, we're really fascinated with body language,
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Dakle, mi smo stvarno fascinirani govorom tijela,
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and we're particularly interested in other people's body language.
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a posebno smo zainteresirani
za govor tijela drugih ljudi.
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You know, we're interested in, like, you know — (Laughter) —
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Tako nas zanima, znate — (Smijeh) —
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an awkward interaction, or a smile,
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čudna interakcija, ili osmijeh,
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or a contemptuous glance, or maybe a very awkward wink,
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ili prezrivi pogled, ili možda čudan mig,
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or maybe even something like a handshake.
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ili možda nešto poput rukovanja.
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Narrator: Here they are arriving at Number 10.
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Narator: "Dolaze do broja 10, i pogledajte ovo
sretni policajac se rukuje s Predsjednikom
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This lucky policeman gets to shake hands with the President of the United States.
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Sjedinjenih Američkih Država. Oh, i evo dolazi
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Here comes the Prime Minister -- No. (Laughter) (Applause)
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Premijer...? Ne." (Smijeh) (Pljesak)
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smijeh) (Pljesak)
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Amy Cuddy: So a handshake, or the lack of a handshake,
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Amy Cuddy: Dakle rukovanje, ili izostanak rukovanja,
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can have us talking for weeks and weeks and weeks.
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može nas natjerati da razgovaramo tjednima i tjednima.
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Even the BBC and The New York Times.
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Čak i BBC i The New York Times.
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So obviously when we think about nonverbal behavior,
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Očito dok razmišljamo o neverbalnom ponašanju,
ili govoru tijela -- ali mi društveni znastvenici to nazivamo neverbalnim --
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or body language -- but we call it nonverbals as social scientists --
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it's language, so we think about communication.
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to je jezik, dakle mislimo na komunikaciju.
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When we think about communication, we think about interactions.
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Kada razmišljamo o komunikaciji, mislimo na interakcije.
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So what is your body language communicating to me?
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Dakle što vaš govor tijela komunicira meni?
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What's mine communicating to you?
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Što moj, komunicira vama?
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And there's a lot of reason to believe that this is a valid way to look at this.
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I postoji puno razloga za vjerovati kako je ovo valjan
način za gledati na ovo. Tako su društveni znanstvenici potrošili
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So social scientists have spent a lot of time
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puno vremena gledajući kako jezik vašeg tijela
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looking at the effects of our body language,
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ili jezik tijela drugih ljudi, utječu na formiranje stavova.
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or other people's body language, on judgments.
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And we make sweeping judgments and inferences from body language.
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I mi radimo površne sudove i stavove temeljem govora tijela.
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And those judgments can predict really meaningful life outcomes
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I ti sudovi mogu predvidjeti bitne događaje u životu,
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like who we hire or promote, who we ask out on a date.
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poput koga zapošljavamo i promoviramo, koga pozivamo na spoj.
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For example, Nalini Ambady, a researcher at Tufts University,
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Na primjer, Nalini Ambady, istraživačica na Sveučilištu Tufts,
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shows that when people watch 30-second soundless clips
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pokazala je da kada ljudi gledaju 30-sekundne klipove bez zvuka
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of real physician-patient interactions,
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stvarne interakcije između doktora i pacijenta,
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their judgments of the physician's niceness
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njihov sud o ljubaznosti doktora
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predict whether or not that physician will be sued.
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predviđa hoće li taj doktor biti tužen ili ne.
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So it doesn't have to do so much
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Dakle to nema veze s time koliko je ili nije
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with whether or not that physician was incompetent,
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taj doktor nekompetentan, već sviđa li nam se ta osoba
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but do we like that person and how they interacted?
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i kakav je bio odnos s pacijentom?
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Even more dramatic, Alex Todorov at Princeton
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Dramatičniji primjer daje nam Alex Todorov s Princetona
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has shown us that judgments of political candidates' faces
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koji pokazuje kako sudovi o licima političara
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in just one second predict 70 percent
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na jednu sekundu, predviđaju 70 posto američkog senata
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of U.S. Senate and gubernatorial race outcomes,
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i rezultate izbora za guvernera.
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and even, let's go digital,
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I možemo malo priječi u digitalni svijet,
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emoticons used well in online negotiations
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dobro korišteni emotikoni u on-line pregovorima
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can lead you to claim more value from that negotiation.
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mogu donijeti veću korist.
A ako ih koristimo slabo, loša ideja. Zar ne?
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If you use them poorly, bad idea. Right?
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Dakle kada mislimo na neverbalne znakove, mi mislimo na to kako sudimo drugima,
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So when we think of nonverbals, we think of how we judge others,
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how they judge us and what the outcomes are.
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kako oni sude o nama i koji su rezultati toga.
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We tend to forget, though, the other audience
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Međutim imamo tendenciju zaboraviti na još jednu publiku
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that's influenced by our nonverbals, and that's ourselves.
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na koju imaju utjecaj naši neverbalni znakovi, a to smo mi.
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We are also influenced by our nonverbals,
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Na nas također utječu naši neverbalni znakovi, naše misli
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our thoughts and our feelings and our physiology.
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i naši osjećaji i naša fiziologija.
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So what nonverbals am I talking about?
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Dakle o kojim to neverbalnim znakovima ja to govorim?
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I'm a social psychologist. I study prejudice,
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Ja sam socijalni psiholog. Istražujem predrasude,
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and I teach at a competitive business school,
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i podučavam na poznatoj poslovnoj školi,
dakle bilo je neizbježno da se počnem interesirati za dinamiku moći.
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so it was inevitable that I would become interested in power dynamics.
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Postala sam posebno zainteresirana za neverbalne izraze
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I became especially interested in nonverbal expressions
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moći i dominacije.
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of power and dominance.
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I što su neverbalni izrazi moći i dominacije?
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And what are nonverbal expressions of power and dominance?
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Well, this is what they are.
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Evo ih.
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So in the animal kingdom, they are about expanding.
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Dakle u životinjskom carstvu radi se o širenju.
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So you make yourself big, you stretch out,
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Pravite se velikima, istežete se,
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you take up space, you're basically opening up.
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zauzimate prostor, u osnovi se otvarate.
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It's about opening up.
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Dakle radi se o otvaranju. I to je istina
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And this is true across the animal kingdom.
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širom životinjskog carstva. Nije ograničena na primate.
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It's not just limited to primates.
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And humans do the same thing. (Laughter)
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I ljudi rade iste stvari. (Smijeh)
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So they do this both when they have power sort of chronically,
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Rade to kada imaju moć gotovo kronično,
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and also when they're feeling powerful in the moment.
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također kada se osjećaju moćnima u određenom trenutku.
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And this one is especially interesting because it really shows us
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A ova je posebno zanimljiv primjer jer nam pokazuje
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how universal and old these expressions of power are.
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kako su univerzalni i stari ti izrazi moći.
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This expression, which is known as pride,
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Te izraze, koji su poznati kao ponos,
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Jessica Tracy has studied.
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istraživala je Jessica Tracy. Ona pokazuje kako
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She shows that people who are born with sight
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ljudi koji su rođeni s normalnim vidom
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and people who are congenitally blind do this
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i ljudi koji su slijepi od rođenja rade ovo
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when they win at a physical competition.
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kada pobijede u fizičkom natjecanju.
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So when they cross the finish line and they've won,
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Dakle kada prođu ciljnom crtom i kada su pobijedili,
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it doesn't matter if they've never seen anyone do it.
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nema veze jesu li nekoga vidjeli da to radi.
Oni rade ovo.
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They do this.
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Dakle ruke su uzdignute u obliku slova "V", i brada je lagano uzdignuta.
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So the arms up in the V, the chin is slightly lifted.
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What do we do when we feel powerless?
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Što radimo kada se osjećamo bespomoćno? Radimo upravo suprotno.
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We do exactly the opposite.
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We close up. We wrap ourselves up.
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Zatvaramo se. Zamatamo se.
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We make ourselves small.
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Smanjimo se. Ne želimo doći u doticaj s osobom do nas.
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We don't want to bump into the person next to us.
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So again, both animals and humans do the same thing.
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Opet, i životinje i ljudi čine istu stvar.
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And this is what happens when you put together high and low power.
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I evo što se događa kada spojite zajedno
visoku i nisku razinu moći. Dakle ono što radimo
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So what we tend to do when it comes to power
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kada je riječ o moći jest da nadopunjavamo neverabalne znakove drugih.
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is that we complement the other's nonverbals.
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So if someone is being really powerful with us,
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Dakle ako je netko dominantan nad nama,
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we tend to make ourselves smaller. We don't mirror them.
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mi se smanjujemo. Ne oponašamo ih.
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We do the opposite of them.
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Radimo suprotno od njih.
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So I'm watching this behavior in the classroom,
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Dakle to ponašanje promatram i u učionici,
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and what do I notice?
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i što pimjećujem? Primjećujem da MBA studenti
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I notice that MBA students really exhibit the full range of power nonverbals.
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zaista pokazuju cijelu lepezu neverbalnih znakova moći.
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So you have people who are like caricatures of alphas,
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Imate ljude koji se kao alfa mužjaci,
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really coming into the room, they get right into the middle of the room
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postave u središte sobe
prije nego što predavanje uopće započne, oni stvarno žele zauzeti prostor.
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before class even starts, like they really want to occupy space.
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When they sit down, they're sort of spread out.
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Kada sjednu, oni se rašire.
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They raise their hands like this.
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Ruke podižu ovako.
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You have other people who are virtually collapsing
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Imate i druge ljude koji doslovno klonu
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when they come in. As soon they come in, you see it.
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kada uđu. Čim uđu to se može primjetiti.
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You see it on their faces and their bodies,
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Vidite im to na licima i njihovim tjelima, i oni sjednu
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and they sit in their chair and they make themselves tiny,
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u stolicu i smanje se,
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and they go like this when they raise their hand.
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i ovako podižu ruke.
Primjetila sam nekoliko stvari vezanih uz ovo.
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I notice a couple of things about this.
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One, you're not going to be surprised.
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Prvo, neće vas iznenaditi.
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It seems to be related to gender.
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To je povezano sa rodom.
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So women are much more likely to do this kind of thing than men.
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Žene će vjerojatnije napraviti ovakve stvari u usporedbi s muškarcima.
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Women feel chronically less powerful than men,
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Žene se kronično osjećaju manje moćnima od muškaraca,
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so this is not surprising.
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dakle to nas ne iznenađuje. Ali druga stvar koju sam primjetila je
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But the other thing I noticed
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is that it also seemed to be related to the extent
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kako je to povezano s kvalitetom i opsegom
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to which the students were participating, and how well they were participating.
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studentskog sudjelovanja u nastavi i koliko dobro to rade.
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And this is really important in the MBA classroom,
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A to je stvarno važno na MBA predavanjima,
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because participation counts for half the grade.
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jer sudjelovanje se vrednuje kao pola ocjene.
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So business schools have been struggling with this gender grade gap.
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Dakle poslovne škole se bore s tim jazom u ocjenjivanju rodova.
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You get these equally qualified women and men coming in
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Stižu vam jednako kvalificirane žene i muškarci
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and then you get these differences in grades,
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i onda dobijete te razlike u ocjenama,
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and it seems to be partly attributable to participation.
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a to donekle ima veze sa sudjelovanjem.
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So I started to wonder, you know, okay,
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I onda sam se započela pitati, znate, OK,
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so you have these people coming in like this, and they're participating.
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imate sve te ljude koji ulaze ovako, i oni
sudjeluju. Možemo li navesti ljude da lažiraju
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Is it possible that we could get people to fake it
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and would it lead them to participate more?
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i hoće li to voditi ka većem sudjelovanju?
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So my main collaborator Dana Carney, who's at Berkeley,
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Dakle moja glavna suradnica Dana Carney, koja je na Berkeleyu,
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and I really wanted to know, can you fake it till you make it?
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i ja, željele smo saznati možemo li to glumiti dok ne postane dijelom nas?
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Like, can you do this just for a little while
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Možete li to nakratko raditi i stvarno
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and actually experience a behavioral outcome
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osjećati bihevioralne rezultate koji će vas učiniti moćnijima?
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that makes you seem more powerful?
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Dakle, znamo da su naši neverablani znakovi upravljani onime što drugi ljudi
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So we know that our nonverbals govern how other people
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think and feel about us. There's a lot of evidence.
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misle i osjećaju o nama. O tome postoji jako puno dokaza.
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But our question really was,
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Ali naše stvarno pitanje bilo je, upravljaju li naši neverbalni
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do our nonverbals govern how we think and feel about ourselves?
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znakovi onime što mi mislimo i osjećamo o sebi?
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There's some evidence that they do.
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Postoje neki dokazi da je tome upravo tako.
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So, for example, we smile when we feel happy,
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Na primjer, smijemo se kada smo sretni,
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but also, when we're forced to smile
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ali također, kada nas prisile da se smijemo,
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by holding a pen in our teeth like this, it makes us feel happy.
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držeći olovku u zubima ovako, mi se počnemo bolje osjećati.
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So it goes both ways.
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Dakle to ide u oba smjera. Kada je riječ o moći,
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When it comes to power, it also goes both ways.
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opet ide u oba smjera. Kada se osjećate moćnima,
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So when you feel powerful,
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you're more likely to do this,
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vjerojatnije ćete raditi ovo, ali također je moguće
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but it's also possible that when you pretend to be powerful,
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kada se pravite da ste moćni, vjerojatnije ćete se
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you are more likely to actually feel powerful.
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stvarno početi osjećati moćnijima.
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So the second question really was, you know,
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Dakle drugo pitanje je stvarno bilo:
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so we know that our minds change our bodies,
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mi znamo da naš um mijenja naše tijelo,
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but is it also true that our bodies change our minds?
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ali je li istina da naše tijelo mijenja naš um?
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And when I say minds, in the case of the powerful,
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I kada kažem um, u kontekstu moći,
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what am I talking about?
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o čemu stvarno govorim?
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So I'm talking about thoughts and feelings
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Dakle govorim o mislima i osjećajima
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and the sort of physiological things that make up our thoughts and feelings,
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i o nekoj vrsti fiziološkokih stvari koje čine naše misli i osjećaje,
a u mom slučaju to su hormoni. Promatram hormone.
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and in my case, that's hormones. I look at hormones.
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So what do the minds of the powerful versus the powerless look like?
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Kako izgleda um moćnih naspram uma
bespomoćnih osoba?
08:29
So powerful people tend to be, not surprisingly,
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08:33
more assertive and more confident, more optimistic.
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asertivniji i sigurniji, optimističniji.
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They actually feel they're going to win even at games of chance.
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Vjeruju da će pobijediti čak i u situacijama u kojima odlučuje sreća.
08:41
They also tend to be able to think more abstractly.
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Oni također češće razmišljaju abstraktno.
Dakle, postoji puno razlika. Oni riskiraju više.
08:45
So there are a lot of differences. They take more risks.
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There are a lot of differences between powerful and powerless people.
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Postoji puno razlika između moćnih i bespomoćnih ljudi.
Psihološki, također postoji razlika u dva
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Physiologically, there also are differences
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on two key hormones: testosterone, which is the dominance hormone,
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ključna hormona: testosteron, koji predstavlja hormon dominacije,
08:57
and cortisol, which is the stress hormone.
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i kortizol, koji je hormon stresa.
09:01
So what we find is that high-power alpha males in primate hierarchies
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Ono što smo pronašli
jest da jako moćni alfa muškarci u hijerarhijama primata
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have high testosterone and low cortisol,
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imaju visok testosteron i nizak kortizol.
Moćni i djelotvorni vođe također imaju
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and powerful and effective leaders
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also have high testosterone and low cortisol.
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visok testosteron i nizak kortizol.
09:17
So what does that mean? When you think about power,
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Što to znači? Kada razmišljate o moći,
09:20
people tended to think only about testosterone,
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ljudi razmišljaju jedino o testosteronu,
09:22
because that was about dominance.
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jer radi se o dominaciji.
09:24
But really, power is also about how you react to stress.
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Međutim, moć ima veze i s time kako reagirate na stres.
09:27
So do you want the high-power leader that's dominant,
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Dakle, želite li moćnog vođu koji je dominantan,
09:30
high on testosterone, but really stress reactive?
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pun testosterona, ali loše reagira na stres?
09:33
Probably not, right?
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Vjerojatno ne, točno? Želite osobu
09:35
You want the person who's powerful and assertive and dominant,
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koja je moćna, asertivna i dominantna,
09:38
but not very stress reactive, the person who's laid back.
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ali dobro reagira na stres, osobu koja je opuštena.
09:41
So we know that in primate hierarchies,
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Znamo da u hijerarhijama primata, ako alfa
09:47
if an alpha needs to take over,
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treba preuzeti, ako pojedinac treba preuzeti
09:50
if an individual needs to take over an alpha role sort of suddenly,
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nenadano ulogu alfe,
09:54
within a few days, that individual's testosterone has gone up
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u nekoliko dana, testosteroni te osobe će se podići
09:57
significantly and his cortisol has dropped significantly.
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značajno a njegov kortizol će jednako tako pasti.
10:01
So we have this evidence, both that the body can shape
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Dakle imamo taj dokaz, da tijelo može oblikovati
10:04
the mind, at least at the facial level,
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um, makar na facijalnoj razini,
ali i promjena uloga može oblikovati um.
10:06
and also that role changes can shape the mind.
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10:10
So what happens, okay, you take a role change,
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Dakle što se događa, preuzmete novu ulogu,
10:13
what happens if you do that at a really minimal level,
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što se događa ako to napravite u zaista maloj količini,
10:15
like this tiny manipulation, this tiny intervention?
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poput te male manipulacije, te male intervencije?
10:18
"For two minutes," you say, "I want you to stand like this,
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"Na dvije minute," kažete sebi, "želim stajati ovako,
10:21
and it's going to make you feel more powerful."
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i to će me učiniti moćnijim."
10:23
So this is what we did.
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To smo i napravili. Odlučili smo dovesti ljude
10:26
We decided to bring people into the lab and run a little experiment,
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u laboratorij i izvesti taj mali eksperiment, a ti su ljudi
10:31
and these people adopted, for two minutes,
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prihvatili na dvije minute, bilo poze moći
10:34
either high-power poses or low-power poses,
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ili bespomoćne poze, a sada ću vam pokazati
10:38
and I'm just going to show you five of the poses,
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pet poza, premda su oni radili samo dvije.
10:40
although they took on only two.
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10:42
So here's one.
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Evo jedne.
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A couple more.
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Još dvije.
10:47
This one has been dubbed the "Wonder Woman" by the media.
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Ovu su mediji nazvali
"Superžena".
10:51
Here are a couple more.
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Evo još dvije.
10:53
So you can be standing or you can be sitting.
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Dakle možete stajati ili možete sjediti.
10:55
And here are the low-power poses.
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A evo i bespomoćnih poza.
10:57
So you're folding up, you're making yourself small.
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Ako se savijete, smanjujete se.
11:01
This one is very low-power.
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Ova je jako bespomoćna.
11:03
When you're touching your neck, you're really protecting yourself.
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Kada dodirujete vrat,
u stvari se štitite.
11:07
So this is what happens.
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Ovako se odvijao eksperiment. Oni ulaze,
11:09
They come in, they spit into a vial,
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daju uzorak pljuvačke,
mi im kažemo, "Na dvije minute morate raditi ovo ili ovo."
11:11
for two minutes, we say, "You need to do this or this."
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Oni ne gledaju ilustracije. Ne želimo kod njih izazvati
11:14
They don't look at pictures of the poses.
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11:16
We don't want to prime them with a concept of power.
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koncept moći. Želimo da se osjećaju moćnima,
zar ne? Dakle dvije minute rade ovo.
11:19
We want them to be feeling power.
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11:21
So two minutes they do this.
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I onda ih pitamo, "Koliko moćnima se osjećate?" u vezi s raznim stvarima,
11:22
We then ask them, "How powerful do you feel?" on a series of items,
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and then we give them an opportunity to gamble,
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i damo im priliku da se kockaju,
11:28
and then we take another saliva sample.
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na kraju ponovno uzmemo uzorak pljuvačke.
11:30
That's it. That's the whole experiment.
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To je to. To je cijeli eksperiment.
11:32
So this is what we find.
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Ovo je što smo otkrili. Tolerancija na rizik, a to je kockanje,
11:34
Risk tolerance, which is the gambling,
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11:36
we find that when you are in the high-power pose condition,
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ono što smo otkrili je da kada ste u poziciji
visoke moći, 86 posto vas će se kockati.
11:40
86 percent of you will gamble.
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11:42
When you're in the low-power pose condition,
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Kada ste u uvjetima bespomoćne poze,
11:44
only 60 percent, and that's a whopping significant difference.
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samo 60%, a to je prilično značajna razlika.
11:48
Here's what we find on testosterone.
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Evo što smo pronašli vezano uz testosteron.
11:51
From their baseline when they come in,
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U odnosu na početno stanje s kojim su ušli, ljudi s višom razinom moći
11:53
high-power people experience about a 20-percent increase,
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doživjeli su porast od 20%,
11:56
and low-power people experience about a 10-percent decrease.
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dok su ljudi s nižom razinom moći doživjeli smanjenje od 10%.
12:01
So again, two minutes, and you get these changes.
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Opet, za samo dvije minute, dobijete ovakve promjene.
12:04
Here's what you get on cortisol.
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Evo ga što dobijete vezano uz kortizol. Moćni ljudi
12:06
High-power people experience about a 25-percent decrease,
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osjete smanjenje od 25%, a
ljudi s niskom razinom moći osjete povećanje od 15%.
12:10
and the low-power people experience about a 15-percent increase.
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12:14
So two minutes lead to these hormonal changes
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Dakle dvije minute vas vodi do ovih hormonalnih promjena
12:17
that configure your brain
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koje utječu da vaš mozak u osnovi postane bilo
12:18
to basically be either assertive, confident and comfortable,
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asertivan, samopouzdan i siguran,
12:23
or really stress-reactive, and feeling sort of shut down.
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ili da burno reagira na stres, i osjeća se
na neki način kao da se gasi. A svi smo imali takvo iskustvo?
12:28
And we've all had the feeling, right?
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12:30
So it seems that our nonverbals do govern how we think and feel about ourselves,
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Dakle čini se kako naše neverbalno ponašanje upravlja
time što mislimo i osjećamo o sebi,
12:36
so it's not just others, but it's also ourselves.
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nisu samo drugi koji na to utječu, već i mi sami.
12:38
Also, our bodies change our minds.
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Naše tijelo također, mijenja naš um.
12:40
But the next question, of course,
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Ali slijedeće pitanje je, naravno, bilo
12:43
is, can power posing for a few minutes
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može li zauzimanje poza moći na dvije minute
12:45
really change your life in meaningful ways?
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zaista promijeniti vaš život značajno na smislen način?
12:47
This is in the lab, it's this little task, it's just a couple of minutes.
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Dakle ovo je laboratorij. To je mali zadatak,
koji traje nekoliko minuta. Gdje to uopće
12:51
Where can you actually apply this?
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možete primjeniti? Naravno u vezi s nečime što nam je važno.
12:53
Which we cared about, of course.
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12:55
And so we think where you want to use this is evaluative situations,
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Mislimo kako je ovo stvarno važno gdje želite ovo primjeniti,
kao u situacijama procjenjivanja
13:01
like social threat situations.
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gdje postoji neka socijalna prijetnja. Gdje vas procjenjuju,
13:04
Where are you being evaluated, either by your friends?
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vaši prijatelji? Za tinejdžere, to je za vrijeme užine.
13:07
For teenagers, it's at the lunchroom table.
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13:09
For some people it's speaking at a school board meeting.
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Za neke ljude to bi mogao biti javni govor
tijekom roditeljskog sastanka u školi. To bi moglo biti natjecanje
13:13
It might be giving a pitch or giving a talk like this
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ili javni nastup poput ovog,
13:17
or doing a job interview.
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ili intervju za posao.
13:19
We decided that the one that most people could relate to
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Mi smo odlučili kako je to situacija na koju se ovo najviše odnosi
13:22
because most people had been through, was the job interview.
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jer većina ljudi je prošla
kroz proces intervjuiranja za posao.
13:25
So we published these findings,
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Tako smo objavili ove nalaze, i mediji
13:28
and the media are all over it,
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13:29
and they say, Okay, so this is what you do
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su bili oduševljeni, i objavili su:
Evo što vam treba kada idete na intervju za posao? (Smijeh)
13:32
when you go in for the job interview, right?
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13:34
(Laughter)
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Znate, bili smo prestravljeni i rekli smo,
13:35
You know, so we were of course horrified, and said,
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"O moj bože, ne, ne, ne, to nije ono što smo mislile.
13:37
Oh my God, no, that's not what we meant at all.
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13:39
For numerous reasons, no, don't do that.
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Zbog niza razloga, ne, ne, ne, nemojte to raditi."
13:42
Again, this is not about you talking to other people.
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Opet, ovo nema veze s komunikacijom s drugim ljudima.
13:44
It's you talking to yourself.
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Ovo je povezano s komunikacijom sa samim sobom.
13:46
What do you do before you go into a job interview? You do this.
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Evo što treba napraviti prije nego odete na intervju za posao. Napravite ovo.
13:49
You're sitting down. You're looking at your iPhone --
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Točno? Sjedite. Gledate u svoj iPhone --
13:52
or your Android, not trying to leave anyone out.
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ili u svoj Android, ne želim nikoga izostaviti.
13:54
You're looking at your notes,
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Gledate u svoje bilješke,
13:56
you're hunching up, making yourself small,
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stežete se, smanjujete,
13:58
when really what you should be doing maybe is this,
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a ono što biste trebali raditi je vjerojatno ovo
14:00
like, in the bathroom, right? Do that. Find two minutes.
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kao u kupaonici? Radite to. Nađite dvije minute.
14:03
So that's what we want to test. Okay?
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To je ono što želimo testirati. U redu?
14:05
So we bring people into a lab,
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I tako dovedemo ljude u laboratorij, i
14:07
and they do either high- or low-power poses again,
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oni ponavljaju poze visoke i niske moći,
14:10
they go through a very stressful job interview.
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te prolaze kroz jako stresan intervju za posao.
14:13
It's five minutes long. They are being recorded.
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Traje 5 minuta. Snimamo ih.
14:16
They're being judged also,
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Procjenuju se, a suci
14:18
and the judges are trained to give no nonverbal feedback,
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su istrenirani da im ne daju nikakavu neverbalnu povratnu informaciju,
14:23
so they look like this.
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tako da izgledaju ovako. Zamislite
14:25
Imagine this is the person interviewing you.
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da je to osoba koja vas intervjuira.
14:27
So for five minutes, nothing, and this is worse than being heckled.
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Dakle na 5 minuta, ništa. To je gore nego da vas odbiju.
14:31
People hate this.
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Ljudi to mrze. To je ono što Marianne LeFrance naziva
14:33
It's what Marianne LaFrance calls "standing in social quicksand."
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"stajati u društvenom živom pijesku".
Ovo stvarno dovodi do skakanja vašeg kortizola.
14:37
So this really spikes your cortisol.
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14:39
So this is the job interview we put them through,
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Dakle to je bio intervju za posao kroz koji smo ih proveli,
14:41
because we really wanted to see what happened.
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jer smo stvarno željeli vidjeti što će se dogoditi.
14:43
We then have these coders look at these tapes, four of them.
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Potom su te snimke pregledala četiri procjenitelja.
14:46
They're blind to the hypothesis. They're blind to the conditions.
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Nisu znali za naše hipoteze. Nisu bili upoznati s uvjetima.
14:49
They have no idea who's been posing in what pose,
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Nisu imali pojma tko je pozirao u kojoj pozi,
14:52
and they end up looking at these sets of tapes,
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i završili su gledajući te serije snimaka,
14:57
and they say, "We want to hire these people,"
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i rekli bi: "O, želimo zaposliti ove ljude." --
sve ljude s pozom visoke razine moći -- "Ne želimo zaposliti ove ljude.
15:00
all the high-power posers.
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"We don't want to hire these people.
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15:03
We also evaluate these people much more positively overall."
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Također procjenjujemo kako su ovi ljudi ukupno pozitivniji."
15:07
But what's driving it?
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Zbog čega? Nije bitan sadržaj njihova govora.
15:08
It's not about the content of the speech.
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15:10
It's about the presence that they're bringing to the speech.
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Radi se o prisutnosti tijekom govora.
15:13
Because we rate them on all these variables
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Također smo, jer ih procjenjujemo po svim tim varijablama,
15:16
related to competence, like, how well-structured is the speech?
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sve to povezali s kompetencijama, npr. koliko je dobro strukturiran
15:19
How good is it? What are their qualifications?
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govor? Koliko je dobar? Koje su njihove kvalifikacije?
15:22
No effect on those things. This is what's affected.
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Na ove stvari nema utjecaja. Ovo je ono što je utjecalo.
15:24
These kinds of things.
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Ova vrsta stvari. Ljudi u osnovi donose svoje pravo ja.
15:26
People are bringing their true selves, basically.
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15:28
They're bringing themselves.
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Donose sebe.
Oni donose svoje ideje, ali kao dio sebe,
15:30
They bring their ideas, but as themselves,
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15:32
with no, you know, residue over them.
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bez ostataka.
15:34
So this is what's driving the effect, or mediating the effect.
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To je ono što pokreće efekt, ili utječe na njega.
15:39
So when I tell people about this,
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Kada ljudima govorim o tome,
15:42
that our bodies change our minds and our minds can change our behavior,
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da naša tijela mijenjaju naše misli i da naše misli mijenjaju naše ponašanje,
15:46
and our behavior can change our outcomes, they say to me,
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a da naše ponašanje utječa na naš život, oni mi kažu,
"Ja ne -- to zvuči kao prevara." Zar ne?
15:49
"It feels fake." Right?
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15:50
So I said, fake it till you make it.
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Onda im kažem, glumi dok ne postane prirodno. Ne ja, to nisam ja.
15:52
It's not me.
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15:54
I don't want to get there and then still feel like a fraud.
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Ne želim stići tamo i onda se osjećati kao varalica.
15:57
I don't want to feel like an impostor.
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Ne želim se osjećati kao uljez.
15:59
I don't want to get there only to feel like I'm not supposed to be here.
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Ne želim dospjeti negdje i onda se osjećati kao da tamo ne pripadam.
16:03
And that really resonated with me,
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To zaista odgovara mojoj situaciji,
16:05
because I want to tell you a little story about being an impostor
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jer vam želim ispričati malu priču o
tome kako sam se osjećala kao uljez i kako sam osjećala kao da ne pripadam tu.
16:08
and feeling like I'm not supposed to be here.
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16:11
When I was 19, I was in a really bad car accident.
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Kada sam imala 19, imala sam stvarno tešku prometnu nesreću.
16:14
I was thrown out of a car, rolled several times.
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Ispala sam iz automobila i nekoliko se puta iskotrljala.
16:17
I was thrown from the car.
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Izbačena sam iz automobila. I probudila sam se na odjelu
16:19
And I woke up in a head injury rehab ward,
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za povrede glave i stavila sam svoje obrazovanje u mirovanje,
16:22
and I had been withdrawn from college,
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16:24
and I learned that my IQ had dropped by two standard deviations,
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da bi spoznala kako je moj IQ pao za dvije standardne devijacije,
16:30
which was very traumatic.
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što je bilo traumatično iskustvo.
16:32
I knew my IQ because I had identified with being smart,
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Znala sam svoj IQ jer su me identificirali kao jako pametnu,
16:35
and I had been called gifted as a child.
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i govorili su mi kako sam darovito dijete.
16:37
So I'm taken out of college, I keep trying to go back.
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Tako sam ispisana s fakulteta, i pokušavala sam se vratiti.
16:41
They say, "You're not going to finish college.
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Govorili su mi, "Nećeš završiti fakultet.
Ali znaš, postoje i druge stvari kojima se možeš baviti,
16:43
Just, you know, there are other things for you to do,
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16:45
but that's not going to work out for you."
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ali to ti neće uspjeti."
16:47
So I really struggled with this, and I have to say,
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Stvarno sam se borila s time, i moram reći,
16:51
having your identity taken from you, your core identity,
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kada ti oduzmu identitet, tvoj sržni identitet,
16:54
and for me it was being smart,
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a za mene je to bila inteligencija,
16:56
having that taken from you,
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kada ti to oduzmu, nema ništa što te može učiniti bespomoćnijim.
16:57
there's nothing that leaves you feeling more powerless than that.
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Tako da sam se osjećala u potpunosti bespomoćnom. Radila sam i radila i radila,
17:00
So I felt entirely powerless.
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17:02
I worked and worked, and I got lucky,
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posrećilo mi se, i radila sam, i opet mi se posrećilo, i radila sam.
17:04
and worked, and got lucky, and worked.
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17:06
Eventually I graduated from college.
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Na kraju sam diplomirala.
17:08
It took me four years longer than my peers,
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Trebalo mi je četiri godine više nego mojim kolegama,
17:10
and I convinced someone, my angel advisor, Susan Fiske,
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i uvjerila sam nekoga, mog anđela savjetnika, Susan Fiske,
17:15
to take me on, and so I ended up at Princeton,
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da me podrži, i tako sam završila na Princetonu,
17:17
and I was like, I am not supposed to be here.
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i pomislila sam, ja ne bih trebala biti tu.
17:20
I am an impostor.
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Ja sam uljez.
I noć prije mog izlaganja na kraju prve godine,
17:22
And the night before my first-year talk,
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17:24
and the first-year talk at Princeton is a 20-minute talk to 20 people.
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a na Princetonu je to 20-minutni govor za
20 ljudi. To je to.
17:27
That's it.
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17:28
I was so afraid of being found out the next day
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Toliko sam se bojala da ću narednog dana biti otkrivena
17:31
that I called her and said, "I'm quitting."
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da sam ju nazvala i rekla, "Odustajem."
Ona mi je odgovorila, "Ne, nećeš odustati,
17:34
She was like, "You are not quitting,
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17:35
because I took a gamble on you, and you're staying.
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jer sam se kladila na tebe, i ti ćeš ostati.
17:38
You're going to stay, and this is what you're going to do.
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Ti ćeš ostati, i to je ono što ćeš napraviti.
Glumiti ćeš.
17:41
You are going to fake it.
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17:42
You're going to do every talk that you ever get asked to do.
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Održati ćeš svaki govor za koji će te pitati.
17:45
You're just going to do it and do it and do it,
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To ćeš jednostavno raditi opet i opet,
čak i kada si preplašena i paralizirana
17:48
even if you're terrified and just paralyzed
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17:50
and having an out-of-body experience,
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i kada imaš izvantjelesno iskustvo, dok ne
17:52
until you have this moment where you say, 'Oh my gosh, I'm doing it.
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doživiš moment u kojem ćeš reći, "O moj bože, radim to.
17:56
Like, I have become this. I am actually doing this.'"
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Postala sam to. Ja to stvarno radim."
17:59
So that's what I did.
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Dakle, to sam i napravila. 5 godina na poslijediplomskom studiju,
18:00
Five years in grad school,
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18:01
a few years, you know, I'm at Northwestern,
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nekoliko godina na Northweternu,
18:03
I moved to Harvard, I'm at Harvard,
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nakon toga sam otišla na Harvard, na Harvardu sam,
18:05
I'm not really thinking about it anymore, but for a long time I had been thinking,
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ne bih o tome više trebala razmišljati, ali dugo jesam,
18:09
"Not supposed to be here."
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"Ne bih trebala biti tu. Ne bih trebala biti tu."
18:11
So at the end of my first year at Harvard,
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Na kraju moje prve godine na Harvardu,
18:14
a student who had not talked in class the entire semester,
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bila je jedna studentica koja nije govorila na nastavi cijeli semestar,
18:18
who I had said, "Look, you've gotta participate or else you're going to fail,"
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kojoj sam morala reći, "Gledaj, moraš sudjelovati ili ćeš pasti."
Došla je u moj ured, a ja je uopće nisam poznavala.
18:22
came into my office. I really didn't know her at all.
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Rekla je, potpuno poražena:
18:25
She came in totally defeated, and she said,
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18:28
"I'm not supposed to be here."
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"Ja ne bih trebala biti ovdje."
18:35
And that was the moment for me.
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I to je bio ključan trenutak za mene jer su se dogodile dvije stvari.
18:37
Because two things happened.
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18:38
One was that I realized,
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Jedna je da sam shvatila,
18:40
oh my gosh, I don't feel like that anymore.
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dragi Bože, ne osjećam se više tako. Znate.
18:43
I don't feel that anymore, but she does, and I get that feeling.
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Ja se tako više ne osjećam, ali se ona osjeća, i ja je razumijem.
18:46
And the second was, she is supposed to be here!
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A drugo je da ona pripada ovdje!
18:48
Like, she can fake it, she can become it.
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Dakle ona se treba pretvarati dok to ne postane.
18:50
So I was like, "Yes, you are! You are supposed to be here!
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Rekla sam joj, "Pripadaš! Ti trebaš biti ovdje!
I sutra ćeš se pretvarati,
18:54
And tomorrow you're going to fake it,
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učiniti ćeš sebe moćnom, i znaš,
18:56
you're going to make yourself powerful, and, you know --
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18:58
(Applause)
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ti ćeš --" (Pljesak)
(Pljesak)
19:04
And you're going to go into the classroom,
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"I uči ćeš u predavaonicu,
i dati ćeš najbolji komentar ikada."
19:08
and you are going to give the best comment ever."
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19:10
You know? And she gave the best comment ever,
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Znate što? Dala je najbolji komentar ikada,
19:13
and people turned around and were like,
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i ljudi su se okrenuli i pitali se,
nikada nisam primjetio da ona ovdje sjedi?! (Smijeh)
19:15
oh my God, I didn't even notice her sitting there. (Laughter)
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Došla je do mene nekoliko mjeseci kasnije, i ja sam shvatila
19:18
She comes back to me months later,
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19:20
and I realized that she had not just faked it till she made it,
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da se nije samo pretvarala dok to nije napravila,
19:23
she had actually faked it till she became it.
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ona se pretvarala dok to nije postala.
19:25
So she had changed.
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Ona se promijenila.
19:27
And so I want to say to you, don't fake it till you make it.
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I tako vam želim reći, nemojte se pretvarati dok to ne napravite.
19:31
Fake it till you become it.
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Pretvarajte se dok to ne postanete. Znate? To nije --
19:34
Do it enough until you actually become it and internalize.
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Radite to dovoljno dok stvarno to ne postanete i usvojite.
19:38
The last thing I'm going to leave you with is this.
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Zadnja stvar koju vam želim reći je ovo.
19:40
Tiny tweaks can lead to big changes.
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Mali pomaci mogu dovesti do velikih promjena.
Dakle samo dvije minute.
19:45
So, this is two minutes.
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19:47
Two minutes, two minutes, two minutes.
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Dvije minute, dvije minute, dvije minute.
19:49
Before you go into the next stressful evaluative situation,
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Prije nego što uđete u slijedeću stresnu situaciju procjenjivanja,
19:52
for two minutes, try doing this, in the elevator,
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na dvije minute, pokušajte raditi ovo, u liftu,
19:55
in a bathroom stall, at your desk behind closed doors.
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u kupaoni, za stolom iza zatvorenih vrata.
19:58
That's what you want to do.
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To je ono što želite napraviti. Prilagodite svoj mozak
20:00
Configure your brain to cope the best in that situation.
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da se najbolje nosi sa situacijom.
20:03
Get your testosterone up. Get your cortisol down.
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Podignite razinu svog testosterona. Smanjite svoj kortizol.
20:05
Don't leave that situation feeling like, oh, I didn't show them who I am.
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Nemojte napustiti situaciju s osjećajem da im niste pokazali tko ste u stvari.
20:09
Leave that situation feeling like,
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Napustite situaciju osjećajući, oh stvarno se osjećam
20:11
I really feel like I got to say who I am and show who I am.
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da sam im pokazao tko sam.
20:14
So I want to ask you first, you know, both to try power posing,
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Želim vas prvo zamoliti, znate,
da pokušate zauzimati poze moći,
20:20
and also I want to ask you to share the science, because this is simple.
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i također vas želim zamoliti
da dijelite znanost jer ovo je jednostavno.
20:25
I don't have ego involved in this. (Laughter)
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Nemam ego uključen u ovo. (Smijeh)
20:27
Give it away. Share it with people,
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Dijelite to. Dijelite s ljudima,
20:29
because the people who can use it the most
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jer ljudi koji ovo mogu najviše iskoristiti su ljudi
20:31
are the ones with no resources and no technology
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bez resursa i tehnologije,
20:35
and no status and no power.
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bez statusa i bez moći. Dajte im to
20:37
Give it to them because they can do it in private.
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jer to mogu raditi privatno.
Oni trebaju svoje tijelo, privatnost i dvije minute,
20:40
They need their bodies, privacy and two minutes,
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20:42
and it can significantly change the outcomes of their life.
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i to može značajno promijeniti ishode njihovog života.
20:45
Thank you.
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Hvala vam. (Pljesak)
20:46
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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