Your elusive creative genius | Elizabeth Gilbert

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Translator: Irati Sarasua Reviewer: Jon Goikolea
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I am a writer.
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Idazle bat naiz
00:14
Writing books is my profession but it's more than that, of course.
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Liburuak idaztea nire lanbidea da baina hori baino gehiago ere bai, noski
00:18
It is also my great lifelong love and fascination.
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Nire bizitzako maitasun handia eta gauza liluragarria ere bada
00:22
And I don't expect that that's ever going to change.
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Eta ez dut hori inoiz aldatuko denik espero
00:25
But, that said, something kind of peculiar has happened recently
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Baina, hori esanda, duela gutxi berezia izan den zerbait gertatu da
00:30
in my life and in my career,
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nire bizitzan eta nire karreran
00:32
which has caused me to have to recalibrate my whole relationship with this work.
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nire lanbidearekin nuen harremana aldarazi duen zerbait
00:37
And the peculiar thing is that I recently wrote this book,
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Gauza berezi hori da duela gutxi liburu bat idatzi nuela,
00:40
this memoir called "Eat, Pray, Love"
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“Eat, Pray, Love” (“Jan, Errezatu, Maitatu”) delako memoria
00:42
which, decidedly unlike any of my previous books,
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hau idatzi ditudan beste liburuekin alderatuz
00:47
went out in the world for some reason, and became this big,
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arrazoiren bategatik munduratu zen eta nazioarteko arrakasta izugarri
00:50
mega-sensation, international bestseller thing.
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eta mega-liluragarria lortu duen liburua da
00:53
The result of which is that everywhere I go now,
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Honen emaitza da, edonora joanda
00:57
people treat me like I'm doomed.
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jendeak etsita egongo banintz bezala tratatzen nauela
00:59
Seriously -- doomed, doomed!
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Serioski – etsita, etsita!
01:02
Like, they come up to me now, all worried, and they say,
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Adibidez, nigana gerturatzen dira, oso arduratuta eta ondorengoa esaten didate
“Ez duzu beldurrik, ez diozu beldurrik inoiz arrakasta gainditu ezinari?
01:05
"Aren't you afraid you're never going to be able to top that?
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01:09
Aren't you afraid you're going to keep writing for your whole life
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Ez diozu beldurrik bizitza guztia idazten pasatzeari
01:12
and you're never again going to create a book
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eta inoiz liburu bat sortzeari
01:14
that anybody in the world cares about at all,
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inoiz norbaiti interesatuko zaion liburu bat ez sortzeari,
01:17
ever again?"
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inoiz ez?
01:19
So that's reassuring, you know.
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Beraz, hori lasaigarria da, badakizue
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But it would be worse, except for that I happen to remember
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Baina okerrago izan liteke, baina oroitzen dut
01:25
that over 20 years ago, when I was a teenager,
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nire gaztaroan, duela 20 urte baino gehiago
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when I first started telling people that I wanted to be a writer,
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idazlea izan nahi nuela esaten hasi nintzenean
jendeak beldurrean oinarritutako antzeko erreakzioa izan zuela.
01:31
I was met with this same sort of fear-based reaction.
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Jendeak ondorengoa galdetzen zidan “Ez duzu inoiz arrakasta lortuko ez duzun beldurrik?
01:34
And people would say, "Aren't you afraid you're never going to have any success?
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01:37
Aren't you afraid the humiliation of rejection will kill you?
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Ez diozu beldurrik ukazioaren umilazioak eraginda hiltzeari?
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Aren't you afraid that you're going to work your whole life at this craft
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Ez diozu beldurrik bizitza guztia arte honetan lanean pasa
eta hortik ezer ez ateratzeari
01:44
and nothing's ever going to come of it
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eta amets multzo baten gainean
01:46
and you're going to die on a scrap heap of broken dreams
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ahoa errauts zaporez beteta hiltzeari?
01:48
with your mouth filled with bitter ash of failure?"
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(Algarak)
01:51
(Laughter)
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01:52
Like that, you know.
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Horrelako zerbait, badakizue
01:54
The answer -- the short answer to all those questions is, "Yes."
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Erantzuna, galdera guzti horien erantzuna motza da, “Bai”.
01:59
Yes, I'm afraid of all those things.
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Bai, gauza guzti horien beldur naiz.
02:01
And I always have been.
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Eta beti izan naiz
02:03
And I'm afraid of many, many more things besides
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Eta gauza askoren beldur naiz
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that people can't even guess at,
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jendeak asma ez ditzakeen gauza askori diet beldur
02:07
like seaweed and other things that are scary.
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Algei esaterako eta beldurra ematen duten beste hainbat gauzari
02:11
But, when it comes to writing,
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Baina, idazteaz dihardugunean
02:13
the thing that I've been sort of thinking about lately, and wondering about lately,
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azken aldian pentsatzen aritu naizena, eta nire buruari galdetu diodana, zera da, zergatik?
02:17
is why?
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Badakizue, arrazionala da?
02:18
You know, is it rational?
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Logikoa da norbaitek sentizea
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Is it logical that anybody should be expected
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to be afraid of the work that they feel they were put on this Earth to do.
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lan horregatik muduratu dela eta lan horren beldur izatea?
02:27
And what is it specifically about creative ventures
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Badakizue, eta sormena oinarri duten lanetan gabiltzanon ezaugarria da
02:31
that seems to make us really nervous about each other's mental health
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dirudienez horrek besteen osasun mentalaren inguruan urduritzen gaitu
02:34
in a way that other careers kind of don't do, you know?
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beste lanbide batzuk egiten ez duten moduan, badakizue?
02:37
Like my dad, for example, was a chemical engineer
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Nire aita bezala esaterako, ingeniari kimikoa zen
02:41
and I don't recall once in his 40 years of chemical engineering
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eta ez dut oroitzen behin ere bere ingeniari kimikoko 40 urteko bizitzan
02:45
anybody asking him if he was afraid to be a chemical engineer, you know?
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inork ingeniari kimiko izateari beldur zion galdetu zionik, badakizue?
02:49
"That chemical-engineering block, John, how's it going?"
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Hori ez zen gertatzen -- ingeniari kimiko hori, John, zer moduz dabil?
02:54
It just didn't come up like that, you know?
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Besterik gabe ez zen gertatzen, badakizue?
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But to be fair, chemical engineers as a group
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Baina justuak izateko, ingeniari kimikoen taldeak
03:00
haven't really earned a reputation over the centuries
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ez du irabazi mendeetan zehar
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for being alcoholic manic-depressives.
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alkoholiko maniatiko-depresibo erreputazioa
03:06
(Laughter)
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(Algarak)
03:07
We writers, we kind of do have that reputation,
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Guk idazleok,erreputazio hori dugu,
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and not just writers, but creative people across all genres,
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eta ez soilik idazleok, baita mota ezberdinetako sormen munduko jendeak ere
03:14
it seems, have this reputation for being enormously mentally unstable.
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mentalki egonkortu gabeak izateko erreputazioa dugu.
03:19
And all you have to do is look at the very grim death count
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Eta egin behar duzun guztia zera da, hildakoen zerrenda etsigarria irakurri
03:22
in the 20th century alone, of really magnificent creative minds
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20. mendean soilik, sormen bikaina zutenen hildakoen zerrenda
03:26
who died young and often at their own hands, you know?
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gazte eta askotan beren buruaz beste eginda heriotza aurkitu zutenena.
03:29
And even the ones who didn't literally commit suicide
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Eta suizidatu ez zirenak ere,
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seem to be really undone by their gifts, you know.
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euren dohaiak ezin kudeatu zenbiltzan.
03:36
Norman Mailer, just before he died, last interview, he said,
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Norman Mailerrek, hil aurretik egin zuen azken elkarrizketan ondorengoa esan zuen
03:39
"Every one of my books has killed me a little more."
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“Nire liburu bakoitzak pittin bat gehiago hil nau”
03:43
An extraordinary statement to make about your life's work.
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Bere lan bizitzaren inguruko azalpen izugarriak, badakizue?
03:46
But we don't even blink when we hear somebody say this,
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Baina norbait horrelako zerbait esaten entzuten dugunean ez ditugu begiak kliskatu ere egiten
03:49
because we've heard that kind of stuff for so long
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horrelako gauza asko azken aldian entzun ditugulako
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and somehow we've completely internalized and accepted collectively
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eta modu batera barneratu eta taldean ideia hori onartu dugulako da
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this notion that creativity and suffering are somehow inherently linked
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sormena eta sufrimendua batera doazela
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and that artistry, in the end, will always ultimately lead to anguish.
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eta arteak, azkenean, beti eramango gaitu etsipenera.
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And the question that I want to ask everybody here today
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Eta gaur zuei guztioi egin nahi dizuedan galdera ondorengoa da
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is are you guys all cool with that idea?
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zuek gustura zaudete ideia horrekin?
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Are you comfortable with that?
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Gustura sentitzen zarete ideia horrekin?
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Because you look at it even from an inch away and, you know --
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distantzia txikira ikusten duzuelako, badakizue
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I'm not at all comfortable with that assumption.
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Ni ez naiz gustura sentitzen susmo horrekin.
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I think it's odious.
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Gorrotagarria dela uste dut
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And I also think it's dangerous,
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Eta arriskutsua dela ere uste dut
04:23
and I don't want to see it perpetuated into the next century.
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eta ez dut datorren mendean jarraitzen duela ikusi nahi
Gure adimen sormentsuak bizitzea nahi dut.
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I think it's better if we encourage our great creative minds to live.
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04:29
And I definitely know that, in my case -- in my situation --
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Eta baietz uste dut
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it would be very dangerous for me to start sort of leaking down that dark path
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nire kasuan oso arriskutsua izango litzateke susmoen bide ilunean sartzea,
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of assumption,
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batez ere
04:42
particularly given the circumstance that I'm in right now in my career.
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gaur egun nire ibilbidean nagoen unea ikusita
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Which is -- you know, like check it out,
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Zuek badakizue
04:48
I'm pretty young, I'm only about 40 years old.
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beno, nahiko gaztea naiz, 40 urte inguru ditut soilik.
Agian oraindik beste lau hamarkada pasako ditut lanean
04:51
I still have maybe another four decades of work left in me.
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04:54
And it's exceedingly likely that anything I write from this point forward
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Oso posiblea da hemendik aurrera
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is going to be judged by the world as the work that came after
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idazten dudan oro munduan arrakasta izan zuen
05:01
the freakish success of my last book, right?
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liburu horren ondorengo moduan zabaltzea, ezta?
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I should just put it bluntly, because we're all sort of friends here now --
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zuzenean esan beharko nuke, guztiok hemen lagunak garelako
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it's exceedingly likely that my greatest success is behind me.
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oso posiblea da nire arrakasta handiena pasa izana
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So Jesus, what a thought!
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Ene Jesus, a ze ideia!
05:15
That's the kind of thought that could lead a person
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Badakizue pentsamendu hori dela
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to start drinking gin at nine o'clock in the morning,
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pertsona bat goizeko bederatzietan ginebra edatera bultzatzen duena
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and I don't want to go there.
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eta nik ez dut hori egin nahi.
05:23
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
05:24
I would prefer to keep doing this work that I love.
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Nahiagoko nuke maite dudan lan hori egiten jarraitu.
Beraz, galdera itzultzen da, nola?
05:27
And so, the question becomes, how?
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05:30
And so, it seems to me, upon a lot of reflection,
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Niri iruditzen zait, asko pentsatu ondoren,
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that the way that I have to work now, in order to continue writing,
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orain lanean jarraitu behar dudan modua, idazten jarraitzeko,
05:36
is that I have to create some sort of protective psychological construct, right?
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babes psikologikoa duen zerbait sortu behar dudala, ezta?
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I have to sort of find some way to have a safe distance
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Nire barnean distantzia bat egoteko modua aurkitu behar dut
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between me, as I am writing, and my very natural anxiety
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nire idazle izaeraren
05:48
about what the reaction to that writing is going to be, from now on.
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eta hemendik aurrera idazten dudan guztiaren erreakzioaren aurrean izango dudan ansiedade naturalaren artean.
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And, as I've been looking, over the last year,
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Eta, bitartean aurreko urtean egin nahi nuen horren
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for models for how to do that,
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05:57
I've been sort of looking across time,
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adibideak bilatzen aritu naiz,
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and I've been trying to find other societies
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eta beste gizarte batzuk begiratzen aritu naiz
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to see if they might have had better and saner ideas than we have
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sortzaileei laguntzeko moduei buruz ideia hobe
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about how to help creative people
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eta egokiagoak zituzten begiratuz,
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sort of manage the inherent emotional risks of creativity.
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sormenaren emozio arriskutsuak administratzeko.
06:11
And that search has led me to ancient Greece and ancient Rome.
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Eta bilaketa horrek Grezia eta Erroma zaharrera eraman nau.
06:16
So stay with me, because it does circle around and back.
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Beraz mantendu zaitezte nirekin, honek bira osoa emango duelako.
06:18
But, ancient Greece and ancient Rome --
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Baina, Grezia eta Erroma zaharrean
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people did not happen to believe that creativity
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jendeak ez zuen uste sormena
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came from human beings back then, OK?
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gizakitik zetorrenik, bai?
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People believed that creativity was this divine attendant spirit
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Jendeak uste zuen sormena gizakiarengana joaten zen
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that came to human beings from some distant and unknowable source,
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espiritu izugarri bat zela, distantea eta ezezaguna,
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for distant and unknowable reasons.
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arrazoi distante eta ezezagunen ondorioz.
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The Greeks famously called these divine attendant spirits of creativity "daemons."
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Grekoek sormen espiritu zoragarri horiei “daimones” deitu zioten
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Socrates, famously, believed that he had a daemon
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Garaiko jendeak uste zuen Sokratesek
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who spoke wisdom to him from afar.
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daimon bat zuela eta jakintasun handiz urrutitik hitz egiten ziola.
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The Romans had the same idea,
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Erromatarrek ideia bera zuten,
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but they called that sort of disembodied creative spirit a genius.
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baina hauek espirituari “incorporeo jeinua” deitzen zioten.
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Which is great, because the Romans did not actually think
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Hori izugarria zen, Erromatarrek ez zutelako uste
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that a genius was a particularly clever individual.
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jeinu bat zerbait majikoa eta jainkotarra zela.
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They believed that a genius was this, sort of magical divine entity,
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Bera bazela uste zuen,
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who was believed to literally live in the walls of an artist's studio,
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bizi zela, literalki, artisten estudioan,
Dobby elfo domestikoa izango balitz bezala,
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kind of like Dobby the house elf,
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07:10
and who would come out
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eta atera eta inbisible izanik artistarengana joaten zela bere lanarekin
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and sort of invisibly assist the artist with their work
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eta lanari forma ematen ziola.
07:15
and would shape the outcome of that work.
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07:17
So brilliant -- there it is, right there, that distance that I'm talking about --
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Hain bikaina – hortxe dago hortxe hain justu hitz egiten ari naizen tartea—
07:21
that psychological construct to protect you from the results of your work.
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lanaren emaitzatik babesteko egoera psikologikoa.
07:25
And everyone knew that this is how it functioned, right?
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Guztiek zekiten horrela funtzionatzen zuela, ezta?
07:29
So the ancient artist was protected from certain things,
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Horrela antzinako artista hainbat gauzetatik babestuta zegoen,
07:31
like, for example, too much narcissism, right?
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esaterako, nartzisismo gehiegi ezta?
07:34
If your work was brilliant, you couldn't take all the credit for it,
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Zure lana liluragarria bazen ezin zenuen meritu guztia zure gain hartu. Bere ordez,
07:37
everybody knew that you had this disembodied genius who had helped you.
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guztiek zekiten jeinu horrek lagundu zintuela.
07:41
If your work bombed, not entirely your fault, you know?
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Zure lanak porrot egiten bazuen, ez zen guztiz zure errua, badakizue?
07:44
Everyone knew your genius was kind of lame.
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Guztiek zekiten zure jeinua nahiko ahula zela.
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(Laughter)
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Eta hori da denbora luzez mendebaldeko jendeak pentsatu zuena.
07:48
And this is how people thought about creativity in the West
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for a really long time.
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Eta orduan iritxi zen Errenazimendua eta dena aldatu zen,
07:53
And then the Renaissance came and everything changed,
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07:55
and we had this big idea, and the big idea was,
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eta izugarrizko ideia handia izan genuen
07:57
let's put the individual human being at the center of the universe
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ideia izugarri hori gizakia munduaren erdian jartzea izan zen
jainko eta misterio guztien gainean eta ez dago leku gehiago
08:01
above all gods and mysteries,
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08:02
and there's no more room for mystical creatures
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jainkotarretik diktaketa hartzen duten izaki mistikoentzat
08:05
who take dictation from the divine.
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08:06
And it's the beginning of rational humanism,
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Gizaki arrazionalaren hastapena,
08:08
and people started to believe that creativity
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eta jendea sinesten hasi zen
sormena gizakitik zetorrela.
08:11
came completely from the self of the individual.
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08:13
And for the first time in history,
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Eta historian lehen aldiz,
08:15
you start to hear people referring to this or that artist as being a genius,
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artista jeinu bat bezala kontsideratu zen,
08:20
rather than having a genius.
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norbaitek jeinu bat zuela esan beharrean.
08:22
And I got to tell you, I think that was a huge error.
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Eta esan behar dizuet, hori nire aburuz hutsegite handia izan zela.
08:25
You know, I think that allowing somebody, one mere person
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08:29
to believe that he or she is like, the vessel,
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bera ontzia eta iturria dela
08:32
you know, like the font and the essence and the source
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eta jatorria eta esentzia,
jainkotiar misterio oro, sormenezkoa, ezezaguna dela esatean
08:35
of all divine, creative, unknowable, eternal mystery
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08:38
is just a smidge too much responsibility to put on one fragile, human psyche.
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gizakiaren adimenerako responsabilidade handiegia dela uste dut.
08:44
It's like asking somebody to swallow the sun.
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Norbaiti eguzkia irenstea eskatzea bezala da.
08:48
It just completely warps and distorts egos,
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Deformatu eta distortsionatu egiten ditu egoak
08:50
and it creates all these unmanageable expectations about performance.
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eta errendeminduaren inguruko itxaropen jasan ezinak sortzen ditu.
08:54
And I think the pressure of that
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Nire ustez presio hori
08:56
has been killing off our artists for the last 500 years.
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gure artistak hiltzen aritu da azken 500 urteetan .
08:59
And, if this is true,
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Eta, hori egia bada,
09:02
and I think it is true,
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eta uste dut egia dela
09:03
the question becomes, what now?
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galdera itzultzen da, orain zer?
09:06
Can we do this differently?
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Hau modu desberdinean egin dezakegu?
09:08
Maybe go back to some more ancient understanding
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Agian jendearen arteko erlazioa eta sormenaren misioak
09:12
about the relationship between humans and the creative mystery.
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lehen ulertzen zituzten moduan ulertzera itzuli beharko ginateke.
09:16
Maybe not.
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Agian ez.
09:17
Maybe we can't just erase 500 years of rational humanistic thought
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Agian ezin ditugu besterik gabe gizakiak 500 urtetan izan dituen
09:21
in one 18 minute speech.
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pentsamendu arrazionalaren diskurtsoak 18 minututan ezabatu
09:23
And there's probably people in this audience
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Eta seguruenik audientzia honetan bada
09:26
who would raise really legitimate scientific suspicions
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maitagarriak existitzen diren
09:30
about the notion of, basically, fairies
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susmo zientifikoak dituenik,
09:33
who follow people around rubbing fairy juice on their projects and stuff.
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maitagarrien zumoa jendeari proiektuetan igurtzen dizkietela eta horrelakoak.
09:38
I'm not, probably, going to bring you all along with me on this.
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Ez dut guztiak nirekin ados egotea lortuko.
09:42
But the question that I kind of want to pose is --
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Baina azaldu nahi dudan galdera,
09:45
you know, why not?
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zergatik ez? da
09:47
Why not think about it this way?
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zergarik ez dugu gure modura pentsatuko?
09:49
Because it makes as much sense as anything else I have ever heard
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Entzun dudan beste edozeren beste zentzu bait du
09:53
in terms of explaining the utter maddening capriciousness
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zoramenezko, ausazko faktore hauek azaltzeko,
09:57
of the creative process.
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sormen prozesuaren faktoreak alegia.
09:58
A process which, as anybody who has ever tried to make something --
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Sormen prozesu hau, zeozer sortzen saiatu diren guztiek dakiten bezala,
---hau da, hemen gauden guztiok—
10:02
which is to say basically everyone here ---
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knows does not always behave rationally.
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ez da beti arrazionalki portatzen.
10:07
And, in fact, can sometimes feel downright paranormal.
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Eta gainera, batzuetan guztiz paranormala izan daiteke.
10:11
I had this encounter recently
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Duela gutxi Rutg Stonen poetisa amerikarr izugarriarekin aurktiu nintzen,
10:13
where I met the extraordinary American poet Ruth Stone,
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10:17
who's now in her 90s, but she's been a poet her entire life
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jada 90 urte ditu, baina poetisa bat izan da bizitza osoan zehar
10:20
and she told me that when she was growing up in rural Virginia,
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eta esan zidan, gaztetan Viriginian bizi zenean
10:23
she would be out working in the fields,
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bera landan lanean ari zenean,
10:25
and she said she would feel and hear a poem
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poemak sentitu eta entzun egiten zituela esan zuen
10:28
coming at her from over the landscape.
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beregana zuzen zioazen poemak landen gainetik
10:30
And she said it was like a thunderous train of air.
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Eta esan zidan airezko tren baten modukoa zela.
10:33
And it would come barreling down at her over the landscape.
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Eta beragana paisaiatik kontrolik gabe etorriko zela.
Eta etortzen sentitzen zuela, lurrak bere hanken azpian mugitzea eragiten baitzuen.
10:36
And she felt it coming, because it would shake the earth under her feet.
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10:39
She knew that she had only one thing to do at that point,
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Berak bazekien une horretan gauza bat soilik egin behar zuela,
10:42
and that was to, in her words, "run like hell."
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eta zera zen, bere hitzetan “deabru baten moduan korrika egitea”
10:44
And she would run like hell to the house
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Eta korrika egiten zuen etxera bidean
10:46
and she would be getting chased by this poem,
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eta poemak bere atzetik jarraituko zion.
eta paper eta arkatz batez baliatuz paperean harrapatu behar zuen
10:48
and the whole deal was that she had to get to a piece of paper and a pencil
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eta azkar egin behar izaten zuen, barnean azaltzen zitzaion hori hartu
10:52
fast enough so that when it thundered through her, she could collect it
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eta orrialdean arrapatzeko
Eta batzuetan ez zen behar bezain azkarra,
10:56
and grab it on the page.
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10:57
And other times she wouldn't be fast enough,
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bera korrika eta korrika arituko zen eta ez zen etxera iritxiko
10:59
so she'd be running and running, and she wouldn't get to the house
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eta poemak arrapatu egingo zuen eta galdu egingo zen betiko
11:02
and the poem would barrel through her and she would miss it
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paisain zehar aldenduz
11:05
and she said it would continue on across the landscape,
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berak esan bezala “beste poeta” baten bila.
11:08
looking, as she put it "for another poet."
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Eta berak zioen –
11:10
And then there were these times --
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11:11
this is the piece I never forgot --
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ez dut zati hori inoiz ahaztuko-
11:13
she said that there were moments where she would almost miss it, right?
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batzuetan, poema galtzear zegoenean
11:17
So, she's running to the house and she's looking for the paper
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etxera korrika ziztu bizian eta paper baten bila
eta justu poema bere paretik pasatzen zenean
11:20
and the poem passes through her,
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11:21
and she grabs a pencil just as it's going through her,
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berak arkatza hartzen zuela esku batekin
11:24
and then she said, it was like she would reach out with her other hand
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eta beste eskua luzatu egiten zuen
eta orduan poema harrapatu, juxtu juxtu.
11:27
and she would catch it.
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Poema buztanetik harrapatzen zuen,
11:29
She would catch the poem by its tail,
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eta atzeraka tiratzen zuen bere gorputzaren barnerantz
11:31
and she would pull it backwards into her body
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11:33
as she was transcribing on the page.
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paperean idazten zuen bitartean.
11:35
And in these instances, the poem would come up on the page perfect and intact
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Eta batzuetan, poema bikain eta garbi azaltzen zen paperean
11:40
but backwards, from the last word to the first.
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baina alderantziz agertzen zen, azken hitza lehenengoa.
11:43
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
11:45
So when I heard that I was like -- that's uncanny,
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Beraz, entzun nuenean pentsatu nuen – ze arraroa,
11:50
that's exactly what my creative process is like.
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horrela da hain justu nire sormen prozesua.
11:52
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
11:56
That's not at all what my creative process is -- I'm not the pipeline!
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Hori ez da nire sormen prozesu osoa- Ez naiz tuberia!
11:59
I'm a mule, and the way that I have to work
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Inozoa naiz, nik lan egiteko modua zera da,
12:01
is I have to get up at the same time every day,
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egunero ordu berean esnatu,
eta izerditu eta lan egin eta guzti honetatik modu traketsean pasa.
12:04
and sweat and labor and barrel through it really awkwardly.
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Baina oraindik ni, nire txorakerian,
12:06
But even I, in my mulishness,
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12:08
even I have brushed up against that thing, at times.
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ni gauza horrekin marruskatu naiz batzuetan.
12:12
And I would imagine that a lot of you have too.
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Eta zuetako asko ere, imajinatzen dut.
12:14
You know, even I have had work or ideas come through me from a source
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Badakizue, baditut lan edo ideiak nigana iturri
12:18
that I honestly cannot identify.
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intzo identifikagarria ez den batetik iristen direnak.
12:20
And what is that thing?
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Eta zer da gauza hori?
12:22
And how are we to relate to it in a way that will not make us lose our minds,
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Eta nola erlaziona gaitezke berekin burua galtzea eragin gabe,
12:26
but, in fact, might actually keep us sane?
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baina, gainera, zuzen edo zentzudun matendu gaitezan?
12:29
And for me, the best contemporary example that I have of how to do that
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Niretzako, adibide garaikide onena
12:33
is the musician Tom Waits,
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Tom Waits musikariarena da,
12:35
who I got to interview several years ago on a magazine assignment.
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duela urte batzuk aldizkari baterako elkarrizketatu nuena.
12:39
And we were talking about this,
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Eta honi buruz ari ginen hizketan
12:41
and you know, Tom, for most of his life, he was pretty much the embodiment
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eta badakizue, Tom, bere bizitzaren zati handienean
12:44
of the tormented contemporary modern artist,
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artista garaikide moderno oinazetsuaren adibide izan da,
guztiz barneratuak ditugun
12:47
trying to control and manage and dominate
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12:49
these sort of uncontrollable creative impulses
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sormen inpultso kontrolaezin horiek kontrolatu,
12:51
that were totally internalized.
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erabili eta menderatzen saiatzen.
12:53
But then he got older, he got calmer,
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Baina, ordurako zahartu egin zen, lasaitu,
12:55
and one day he was driving down the freeway in Los Angeles,
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eta egun batean autopistan gidatzen ari zen, Los Angelesen esan zidanez,
12:58
and this is when it all changed for him.
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eta bapatean guztia aldatu zen beretzako
13:00
And he's speeding along, and all of a sudden
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Gidatzen ari da eta bat-batean
13:02
he hears this little fragment of melody,
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burura etortzen zaion melodia honen soinua entzuten du,
13:06
that comes into his head as inspiration often comes, elusive and tantalizing,
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bere burura inspirazio moduan etortzen da askotan, ihesbide eta iradokitzaile,
13:10
and he wants it, it's gorgeous,
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eta nahi du, zuek badakizue, polita da
13:12
and he longs for it, but he has no way to get it.
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eta faltan botatzen du, baina ez du lortzeko aukerarik.
13:14
He doesn't have a piece of paper, or a pencil, or a tape recorder.
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Ez du paper zatirik, ez du arkatzik,
ez du grabadora bat.
13:17
So he starts to feel all of that old anxiety start to rise in him
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Beraz, ansiedadea handitzen joaten da,
“Gauza hau galduko dut,
13:21
like, "I'm going to lose this thing,
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13:22
and I'll be be haunted by this song forever.
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eta orduan kanta honek betiko atsekabetuko nau.
13:24
I'm not good enough, and I can't do it."
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Ez naiz behar bezain ona, ezin dut egin"
13:26
And instead of panicking, he just stopped.
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Beldurrak jaten utzi beharrean geratu egin zen.
13:28
He just stopped that whole mental process and he did something completely novel.
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Prozesu mentala geratu zuen
eta guztiz berria zen zerbait egin zuen.
13:32
He just looked up at the sky, and he said,
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Zerura begiratu zuen soilik, eta ondorengoa esan zuen
13:35
"Excuse me, can you not see that I'm driving?"
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“Barkatu, ez duzu gidatzen ari naizela ikusten?”
13:38
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
13:42
"Do I look like I can write down a song right now?
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“Kantu bat orain idatzi dezakedala uste duzu?
13:44
If you really want to exist, come back at a more opportune moment
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Benetan existitu nahi baduzu, itzuli momentu egokiago batean,
13:48
when I can take care of you.
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zutaz arduratzeko aukera dudanean.
13:50
Otherwise, go bother somebody else today.
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Bestela, joan zaitez beste norbait eragoztera.
13:53
Go bother Leonard Cohen."
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Joan zaitez Leonard Cohen eragoztera”
13:56
And his whole work process changed after that.
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Eta bere lanerako modua guztiz aldatu zen honen ondoren.
13:59
Not the work, the work was still oftentimes as dark as ever.
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Ez lana, askotan ordura arte bezain iluna zen.
14:03
But the process, and the heavy anxiety around it
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Baizik eta prozesua, eta hain astuna zen ansiedadea
14:06
was released when he took the genie, the genius out of him
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askatua izan zen jeinua hartu zuenean eta bere barnetik atera zuenean,
14:09
where it was causing nothing but trouble, and released it back where it came from,
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bertan arazoak soilik sortzen zituen, eta askatu egin zuen etorri zen lekura itzuliz,
eta orduan konturatu zen ez zuela barneratutako zerbait izan behar, oinazetsua.
14:13
and realized that this didn't have to be this internalized, tormented thing.
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Kolaboratzaile berezi bat izan zitekeen, bikaina, apartekoa,
14:17
It could be this peculiar, wondrous, bizarre collaboration,
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14:20
kind of conversation between Tom and the strange, external thing
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Tom eta kanpoan zegoen gauza horren arteko harremana,
14:24
that was not quite Tom.
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Tom ez zena.
14:26
When I heard that story, it started to shift a little bit
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Beraz, istorio hori entzun nuenean hasi zen pittin bat aldatzen
14:29
the way that I worked too, and this idea already saved me once.
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nire lan egiteko modua, eta behin salbatu ninduen.
14:32
It saved me when I was in the middle of writing "Eat, Pray, Love,"
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Ideia honek salbatu ninduen “Eat, Pray, Love” idatzen ari nintzenean
14:35
and I fell into one of those sort of pits of despair
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eta zerbaitetan lanean ari zarenean eta funtzionatzen ez duenean
14:38
that we all fall into when we're working on something and it's not coming
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eta pentsatzen hasten zarenean desastre bat izango dela
14:41
and you start to think this is going to be a disaster, the worst book ever written.
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eta inoiz idatzi den liburu okerrena izango dela
Une horietako batean, desesperazio zulo batean erori nintzen.
14:45
Not just bad, but the worst book ever written.
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Ez txarra soilik, inoiz idatzi zen okerrena.
Proiektua utzi behar nuela pentsatzen hasi nintzen.
14:48
And I started to think I should just dump this project.
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14:51
But then I remembered Tom talking to the open air
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Baina Tom aireari hitz egitenez oroitu nuen orduan e
14:54
and I tried it.
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ta saiatu egin nintzan.
14:56
So I just lifted my face up from the manuscript
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Beraz, burua eskuizkributiktik altsatu nuen
14:59
and I directed my comments to an empty corner of the room.
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eta nire hitzak gelako leku hutsera bidali nituen.
15:02
And I said aloud, "Listen you, thing,
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Eta ahots gora ondorengoa esan nuen: “Ei zu, gauza,
15:05
you and I both know that if this book isn't brilliant
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entzun, biok dakigu liburu hau bikaina ez bada
15:08
that is not entirely my fault, right?
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ez dela soilik nire errua, ezta?
15:10
Because you can see that I am putting everything I have into this,
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Nire gogo guztiak jartzen ari naizela ikusten baituzu,
15:13
I don't have any more than this.
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ez dut ezer gehiago.
15:15
If you want it to be better, you've got to show up and do your part of the deal.
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Beraz, hobea izatea nahi baduzu, azaldu eta tratuaren zure zatia bete behar duzu.
Bale. Baina egiten ez baduzu, badakizu, pikutara honekin-
15:19
But if you don't do that, you know what, the hell with it.
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Idazten jarraituko dut nire lana delako.
15:22
I'm going to keep writing anyway because that's my job.
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15:24
And I would please like the record to reflect today
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Eta gaur hemen egon naizela
nire tratuaren zatia betetzeko islatzea nahi dut.”
15:27
that I showed up for my part of the job."
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(Algarak)
15:29
(Laughter)
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15:32
Because --
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Zeren
15:34
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
15:36
Because in the end it's like this, OK --
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azken finean horrelako zerbait da, bai.
15:38
centuries ago in the deserts of North Africa,
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duela mende batzuk Afrikar Iparraldeko desertuetan
15:41
people used to gather for these moonlight dances of sacred dance and music
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jendea bildu egiten zen musikarekin ilargiaren argitan dantzatzeko
15:45
that would go on for hours and hours, until dawn.
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eta orduak eta orduak pasatzen zituzten horrela, egunsentiraino.
15:48
They were always magnificent, because the dancers were professionals
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Eta beti ziren izugarriak, dantzariak profesionalak
15:51
and they were terrific, right?
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eta izugarriak zirelako ezta?
Baina noizean behin, oso gutxitan, zerbait gertatzen zen,
15:53
But every once in a while, very rarely, something would happen,
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15:56
and one of these performers would actually become transcendent.
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eta antzezleet akore bat garrantzitsua egiten zen.
15:59
And I know you know what I'm talking about,
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Eta nik badakit zuek badakizuela zertaz ari naizen hizketan,
16:02
because I know you've all seen, at some point in your life,
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guztiok noizbait ikusi duzuelako horrelako zerbait.
16:05
a performance like this.
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16:06
It was like time would stop,
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Denbora geratuko balitz bezala zen,
16:08
and the dancer would sort of step through some kind of portal
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dantzaria portal moduko batetik pasatzen zen
eta ez zuen beste mila gauetan egin zuenetik desberdintzen zuen ezer egiten
16:11
and he wasn't doing anything different
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16:13
than he had ever done, 1,000 nights before,
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16:15
but everything would align.
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baina guztia lerrokatzen zen.
16:16
And all of a sudden, he would no longer appear to be merely human.
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Eta bat-batean, ez zirudien gizaki sinple bat.
Argizkatua zegoen barnetik eta azpitik
16:20
He would be lit from within, and lit from below
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16:22
and all lit up on fire with divinity.
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eta guztia argiztatua zegoen jainkotartasunez.
16:26
And when this happened, back then,
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Eta hau gertazten zenean, garai horietan,
16:28
people knew it for what it was, you know, they called it by its name.
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jendeak bazekien zer zen, badakizue, eta bere izenez deitzen zuten.
16:32
They would put their hands together and they would start to chant,
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Eskuak elkartu eta kantatzen hastzen ziren
16:35
"Allah, Allah, Allah, God, God, God."
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"Allah, Allah, Allah, Jainkoa, Jainkoa, Jainkoa."
16:39
That's God, you know.
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Hori da jainkoa badakizue?
16:42
Curious historical footnote:
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Datu historiko bitxi bat -
16:45
when the Moors invaded southern Spain, they took this custom with them
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Moroek Espainiar hegoaldea inbaditu zutenean, eurekin eraman zuten ohitura hau
16:50
and the pronunciation changed over the centuries
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eta ahoskera aldatu zioten mendeen poderioz,
16:52
from "Allah, Allah, Allah," to "Olé, olé, olé,"
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“Allah, Allah, Allah" "Olé, olé, olé,"izatera pasatu zen.
16:55
which you still hear in bullfights and in flamenco dances.
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Gaur egun zezen plazatan eta dantza flamenkoetan entzuten da.
16:58
In Spain, when a performer has done something impossible and magic,
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Espainian norbaitek ezinezko edo majikoa den zerbait egiten duenean
17:01
"Allah, olé, olé, Allah, magnificent, bravo,"
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“Allah, Allah, Allah" a "Olé, olé, olé, bravo"
17:05
incomprehensible, there it is -- a glimpse of God.
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esaten dute, ulertezina, hor dago jainkoaren irudia.
17:08
Which is great, because we need that.
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Barregarria dena, behar dugulako.
17:10
But, the tricky bit comes the next morning,
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Baina, zati zaila hurrengo goizean iristen da,
17:14
for the dancer himself, when he wakes up and discovers
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dantzariarentzat berarentzat, esnatu
17:17
that it's Tuesday at 11 a.m., and he's no longer a glimpse of God.
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eta ikusten duenean asteatrea dela eta goizeko 11ak eta jada bera ez dela jainkoaren irudia.
17:21
He's just an aging mortal with really bad knees,
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Belaunak gaizki dituen gizakia dela soilik ikusten duenean
17:24
and maybe he's never going to ascend to that height again.
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eta agian ez du inoiz lortuko berriro ere maila horretara heltzea.
17:29
And maybe nobody will ever chant God's name again as he spins,
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Eta agian inoiz gehiago inork ez du Jainkoaren izena esango birak ematen dituen bitartean,
17:32
and what is he then to do with the rest of his life?
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eta zer egingo du bere bizitzan gertatzen den beste guztiarekin?
17:35
This is hard.
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Hau zaila da.
17:37
This is one of the most painful reconciliations to make
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Sortzailearen bizitzako
17:39
in a creative life.
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adiskidetze mingarrienetako bat da.
17:42
But maybe it doesn't have to be quite so full of anguish
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Baina agian ez luke larritasunez betea egon behar,
17:45
if you never happened to believe, in the first place,
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zuek ez bazenuteke lehenengo
17:48
that the most extraordinary aspects of your being came from you.
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pentsatuko ezaugarri izugarrienak zuengandik etorriak direla.
17:52
But maybe if you just believed that they were on loan to you
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Baina agian sinetsiko bazenute iturri imajinaezin baten mailegua dela
17:55
from some unimaginable source for some exquisite portion of your life
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zure bizitzaren zati bat
17:59
to be passed along when you're finished,
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norbaiti amaitzean entregatu beharrekoa dela.
18:01
with somebody else.
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18:02
And, you know, if we think about it this way, it starts to change everything.
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Badakizue, horrela pentsatzen badugu, guztia aldatzen hasten da.
18:07
This is how I've started to think,
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Horrela hasi naiz pentsatzen,
18:09
and this is certainly how I've been thinking in the last few months
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eta laster arriskutsu, nire arrakasta arraroaren
18:12
as I've been working on the book that will soon be published,
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aurrerapen beldurgarri bezala kaleratuko den
18:15
as the dangerously, frighteningly over-anticipated follow up
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nire liburuan azken hilabeteetan lanean aritu naizenean
18:19
to my freakish success.
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ere horrela pentsatu dut.
18:22
And what I have to sort of keep telling myself
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Eta nire buruari esan behar diodana
18:25
when I get really psyched out about that is don't be afraid.
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benetan urduri jartzen naizenean zera da,
ez eduki beldurrik.
18:29
Don't be daunted. Just do your job.
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Ez larritu.
Zure lana egin soilik.
18:32
Continue to show up for your piece of it, whatever that might be.
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Jarraitu zure burua aurkezten zure zatia egiteko, dena delakoa izanda.
18:35
If your job is to dance, do your dance.
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Zure lana dantza egitea bada, egin zure dantza.
18:38
If the divine, cockeyed genius assigned to your case
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Jainkotiarra bada, zure kasuan lanean ari den geinu zentzugabeak
18:42
decides to let some sort of wonderment be glimpsed, for just one moment
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gauza miragarrirenbat begiztatzen badu, nahiz eta une batean soilik izan
18:47
through your efforts, then "Olé!"
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zure indarretatik egitne badu Ole!
Eta bestela, egin ezazu zure dantza halere.
18:50
And if not, do your dance anyhow.
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18:53
And "Olé!" to you, nonetheless.
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Eta Ole! Zuretzako modu guztietan.
18:54
I believe this and I feel that we must teach it.
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Honetan sinesten dut eta erakutsi behar dugula sentitizen dut.
Ole! Zuri, modu guztietan,
18:57
"Olé!" to you, nonetheless,
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18:58
just for having the sheer human love and stubbornness
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maitasuna edukitzeagatik soilik eta saiatzen
19:01
to keep showing up.
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jarraitzeko gizaki irmotasuna.
19:03
Thank you.
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Eskerrik asko
19:05
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
19:07
Thank you.
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Eskerrik asko
19:09
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
19:12
June Cohen: Olé!
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June Cohen: Ole!
19:13
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
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