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譯者: kane tan
審譯者: Wang-Ju Tsai
00:15
I was only four years old
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在我四歲的時候,
00:17
when I saw my mother
load a washing machine
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我看見我的媽媽將衣物放進
00:20
for the very first time in her life.
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她一生中第一次使用的洗衣機。
00:23
That was a great day for my mother.
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對我媽來說, 這是一個重要的日子
00:25
My mother and father
had been saving money for years
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我的媽媽和爸爸存了很多年的錢
00:28
to be able to buy that machine,
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才能夠買到這台洗衣機
00:30
and the first day it was going to be used,
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而這是它第一次被使用的日子,
00:32
even Grandma was invited
to see the machine.
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甚至連奶奶都被邀請
來看這台洗衣機。
00:35
(Laughter)
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奶奶還比媽媽更興奮
00:37
And Grandma was even more excited.
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00:39
Throughout her life, she had been
heating water with firewood,
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她這一輩子
都是靠柴火來燒熱水,
00:43
and she had hand-washed laundry
for seven children.
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她必須用雙手
替七個孩子洗衣物
00:47
And now, she was going to watch
electricity do that work.
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而現在她會看到
電力來做這件事
00:53
My mother carefully opened the door,
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我媽媽小心地打開了門,
00:57
and she loaded the laundry
into the machine,
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然後她將這些衣物
放進了洗衣機
就像這樣
01:02
like this.
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01:03
And then, when she closed the door,
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然後, 當她關上門的時候,
01:05
Grandma said, "No, no, no, no!
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奶奶說, "等等,
01:07
Let me! Let me push the button!"
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讓我來按這個按鈕。"
01:10
(Laughter)
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01:11
And Grandma pushed the button,
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然後奶奶按下了按鈕,
她說, "喔, 真神奇啊
01:14
and she said, "Oh, fantastic!
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01:16
I want to see this! Give me a chair!
Give me a chair! I want to see it,"
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我想看看這個. 給我一張椅子
給我一張椅子, 我想看看它。"
01:20
and she sat down in front of the machine,
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於是她坐在洗衣機的前面,
01:23
and she watched
the entire washing program.
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她看了整個洗滌的流程
01:27
(Laughter)
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她被迷住了
01:28
She was mesmerized.
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01:29
To my grandmother,
the washing machine was a miracle.
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對我的奶奶來說,
洗衣機是一個奇蹟
01:35
Today, in Sweden and other rich countries,
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現在, 在瑞典和其他有錢的國家,
01:38
people are using
so many different machines.
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人們使用著
各種不同的機器
01:42
Look -- the homes are full of machines.
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看, 家裡堆滿了各種機器;
01:44
I can't even name them all.
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我甚至沒辦法說出全部的名稱
01:46
And they also, when they want to travel,
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同時, 當他們想旅行時,
他們會使用飛機
01:50
they use flying machines
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01:52
that can take them to remote destinations.
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來送他們到遙遠的地方
01:54
And yet, in the world,
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然而, 在這個世界裡, 還有許多人
01:56
there are so many people
who still heat the water on fire,
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需要生火來燒熱水,
也必須靠火來煮飯
02:00
and they cook their food on fire.
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02:02
Sometimes they don't even
have enough food.
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有時候甚至沒有足夠的食物
他們活在貧窮的標準線之下
02:05
And they live below the poverty line.
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02:07
There are two billion fellow human beings
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有二十億的人們
02:10
who live on less than two dollars a day.
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每天生活費用不到兩塊美金
而最富裕的人們 --
02:13
And the richest people over there --
there's one billion people,
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有十億的人們 --
02:16
and they live above
what I call the "air line" --
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他們生活在這條我稱為天際線之上,
02:19
(Laughter)
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02:20
because they spend
more than 80 dollars a day
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因為他們每天用在生活的花費
超過八十美金
02:24
on their consumption.
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但這只是十、二十、 三十億的人們,
02:26
But this is just one, two,
three billion people,
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02:28
and obviously, there are
seven billion people in the world,
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但世界上有七十億的人口,
02:31
so there must be one, two,
three, four billion people more
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所以還有十、二十、三十、四十億的人,
生活在貧窮與天際線之間。
02:35
who live in between
the poverty and the air line.
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他們擁有電力,
02:38
They have electricity,
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02:40
but the question is:
How many have washing machines?
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但問題是, 多少人擁有洗衣機?
02:43
I've done the scrutiny of market data,
and I've found that, indeed,
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我做過市場調查,
我發現, 確實,
02:48
the washing machine
has penetrated below the air line,
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洗衣機在這條天際線之下,
而今日, 有十億人
02:52
and today, there's an additional
one billion people out there
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生活在洗衣機線之上
02:55
who live above the "wash line."
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02:57
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:59
And they consume
for more than 40 dollars per day.
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他們每天的花費超過四十美元
03:03
So two billion have access
to washing machines.
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所以有二十億的人可以使用洗衣機
03:06
And the remaining five billion --
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那麼剩下的五十億人們,
是怎麼洗衣服的呢?
03:09
how do they wash?
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03:10
Or, to be more precise,
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或者, 講明白一點,
03:12
how do most of the women
in the world wash?
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世界上大部分的女人是怎麼洗衣服的呢?
03:15
Because it remains the hard work
for women to wash.
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因為對女人來說, 洗衣服仍然是件辛苦的事情
03:19
They wash like this: by hand.
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她們會這樣洗衣服: 用手洗
03:22
It's hard, time-consuming labor,
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這是一件辛苦, 很耗費時間的工作,
這是她們每個禮拜都要花費好幾小時所做的事情
03:27
which they have to do
for hours every week.
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有時候她們必須將水從很遠的地方
03:30
And sometimes they also have
to bring water from far away
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帶回家中洗衣服
03:33
to do the laundry at home,
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03:34
or they have to bring the laundry
away to a stream far off.
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或是, 她們必須將衣物帶到很遠的溪流旁邊
03:38
And they want the washing machine.
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所以, 她們想要有洗衣機
03:41
They don't want to spend
such a large part of their life
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她們不想將生命中大部分的時間
03:44
doing this hard work
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用在這種又辛苦
03:46
with so relatively low productivity.
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又沒什麼價值的工作上.
她們的這個願望
03:49
And there's nothing
different in their wish
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和我奶奶的願望沒什麼不同
03:51
than it was for my grandma.
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看這裡, 兩代之前的瑞典 --
03:53
Look here, two generations
ago in Sweden --
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03:55
picking water from the stream,
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從溪流邊取水,
03:57
heating with firewood
and washing like that.
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生火燒水和用手洗衣服
04:00
They want the washing machine
in exactly the same way.
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她們也同樣想要有洗衣機
04:03
But when I lecture
to environmentally concerned students,
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但是, 當我對著關心環保的學生們演說時,
04:06
they tell me, "No, everybody in the world
cannot have cars and washing machines."
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他們告訴我, "不, 世界上的人們不可以都擁有汽車和洗衣機。"
04:11
How can we tell this woman
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我們該怎麼告訴這個女人
04:13
that she isn't going
to have a washing machine?
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她不可以有一台洗衣機?
04:15
And then I ask my students --
over the last two years, I've asked --
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於是我問我的學生們,
在過去兩年中, 我問過他們,
04:19
"How many of you don't use a car?"
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"你們之中有多少人不開車?"
04:21
And some of them proudly raise their hand
and say, "I don't use a car."
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一部分人自豪地舉起他們的手,
告訴我, "我不開車。"
04:25
And then I put the really tough question:
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接著我問他們一個艱困的問題:
04:27
"How many of you hand-wash
your jeans and your bedsheets?"
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"你們之中
有多少人會用手洗牛仔褲和床單?"
04:31
And no one raised their hand.
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結果沒有人舉手
即使是綠色運動的激進人士
04:35
Even the hardcore in the green movement
use washing machines.
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也會使用洗衣機
04:39
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:43
So how come [this is]
something that everyone uses
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所以, 這種每個人都會使用的東西,
04:45
and they think others will not stop it?
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他們怎麼能夠期望別人不使用;有什麼特別的嗎?
04:47
What is special with this?
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04:48
I had to do an analysis
about the energy use in the world.
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我對世界上能源使用狀況進行了分析
04:51
Here we are.
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就像這樣
04:52
Look here. You see
the seven billion people up there?
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看這邊, 你看這裡有七十億的人們,
04:55
The air people, the wash people,
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天際等級的人, 洗衣機等級的人,
04:57
the bulb people and the fire people.
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使用燈泡和生火的人們
05:00
One unit like this
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這是一個單位,
05:02
is an energy unit of fossil fuel --
oil, coal or gas.
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一個石化燃料的單位 --
石油, 煤炭或天然氣。
05:07
That's what most of the electricity
and the energy in the world is.
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這是世界上的電力和能源主要的來源
05:11
And it's 12 units used
in the entire world,
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整個世界使用了十二個單位的能源,
05:14
and the richest one billion,
they use six of them.
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最有錢的十億人們, 他們用了六個單位。
05:17
Half of the energy is used
by one seventh of the world population.
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有一半的能源被這七分之一的人口給用掉了
05:20
And these ones, who have washing machines
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而這個有洗衣機的族群,
家中並未充斥其它機器的族群,
05:23
but not a house full of other machines,
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他們用了兩個單位。
05:25
they use two.
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05:26
This group uses three, one each.
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這個族群用了三個單位, 每十億人用一個單位
他們也擁有電力
05:29
And they also have electricity.
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但這裡, 他們幾乎每十億人用不到一個單位
05:31
And over there,
they don't even use one each.
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05:33
That makes 12 of them.
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這樣總共是十二單位的能源
05:35
But the main concern
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但是, 主要的問題是,
05:37
for the environmentally interested
students -- and they are right --
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對於關心環保的學生們而言 -- 他們是對的 --
05:40
is about the future.
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是未來的狀況。
趨勢會是如何呢? 如果我們將趨勢線延伸,
05:43
What are the trends?
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05:44
If we just prolong the trends,
without any real advanced analysis,
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一直到 2050 年, 不做任何進階的分析,
05:48
to 2050,
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有兩件事會造成能源消耗的增加
05:49
there are two things
that can increase the energy use:
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第一, 人口的成長
05:52
first, population growth;
second, economic growth.
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第二, 經濟的成長
05:55
Population growth will mainly occur
among the poorest people here,
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人口的增加主要發生在最貧窮的人們這邊,
因為他們有較高的兒童死亡率,
05:59
because they have high child mortality
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同時每個女人的平均生育數也比較多
06:01
and they have many children per woman.
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於是, 這邊就會多出兩個,
06:03
And that will get you two extra,
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但這並不太會造成能源使用量的改變
06:05
but that won't change
the energy use very much.
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接下來的是經濟成長
06:07
What will happen is economic growth.
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06:09
The best of here
in the emerging economies --
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這邊所發生的經濟成長 --
我稱之為新東方 --
06:12
I call them "the New East" --
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06:13
they will jump the air line.
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他們會跳過天際線
06:15
"Wopp!" they will say.
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他們將會說, "跳!"
06:17
And they will start to use as much
as the Old West are doing already.
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接著他們會開始使用跟舊西方一樣多的能源耗用量
06:20
(Laughter)
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而那些人們, 他們想要有洗衣機
06:21
And these people,
they want the washing machine.
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我說過的,他們將會移動到這裡。
06:24
I told you. They'll go there.
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06:25
And they will double their energy use.
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於是他們會增加兩倍的能源使用量
06:27
And we hope that the poor people
will get into the electric light.
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而我們希望貧窮的人們能夠開始使用電燈
06:30
And they'll get a two-child family
without a stop in population growth.
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接著他們會擁有兩個小孩的家庭而不會阻止人口成長
但是能源的總耗用量
06:33
But the total energy consumption
will increase to 22 units.
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將會增加到 22 單位
而這 22 單位的主要使用者
06:37
And these 22 units --
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仍然是最有錢的那些人
06:40
still, the richest people
use most of them.
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所以, 我們該做些什麼呢?
06:44
So what needs to be done?
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06:45
Because the risk,
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由於目前所存在的風險,
06:47
the high probability
of climate change is real.
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關於氣候變遷的高度可能性是存在的
06:50
It's real.
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這是真實的事情
06:52
Of course, they must be
more energy efficient.
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當然, 他們必須更有效率的使用能源
06:55
They must change
their behavior in some way.
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他們必須改變使用習慣
06:57
They must also start
to produce green energy,
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他們也必須開始製造綠色能源,
更多的綠色能源
07:00
much more green energy.
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07:01
But until they have the same
energy consumption per person,
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但, 在他們能夠作到同樣的能源耗用之前,
他們不應該去建議別人 --
07:05
they shouldn't give advice to others --
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07:06
what to do and what not to do.
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什麼該做, 什麼是不該做的。
07:08
(Laughter)
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(掌聲)
07:09
(Applause)
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07:10
Here, we can get more
green energy all over.
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這樣我們可以在整體上獲得更多綠色能源
這是我們期望發生的事
07:15
This is what we hope might happen.
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這在未來是一大挑戰
07:17
It's a real challenge in the future.
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07:19
But I can assure you
that this woman in the favela in Rio,
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但是我向你保證, 在里約貧民窟中的這個女人,
她想要有洗衣機
07:23
she wants a washing machine.
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她很高興她那位能源部長
07:25
She's very happy
about her minister of energy
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07:27
that provided electricity to everyone --
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能夠提供給每個人民電力 --
07:29
so happy that she even voted for her.
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所以人們都樂意投票給她
而她就是 Dilma Rousseff,
07:33
And she became Dilma Rousseff,
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07:34
the president-elect of one of the biggest
democracies in the world,
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在這世界中最大的民主國家之一
的總統當選者 --
從能源部長變成了總統
07:39
moving from minister
of energy to president.
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如果你有民主制度,
07:42
If you have democracy,
people will vote for washing machines.
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人們會為了洗衣機而投票
他們喜歡洗衣機
07:46
They love them!
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07:47
(Laughter)
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07:49
And what's the magic with them?
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它們神奇的地方在哪兒?
07:51
My mother explained
the magic with this machine
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我媽媽在使用洗衣機的第一天
07:54
the very, very first day.
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解釋洗衣機的神奇之處給我聽
她說, "現在 Hans,
07:57
She said, "Now, Hans.
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我們把衣物放了進去;
07:59
We have loaded the laundry.
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洗衣機就會把衣物洗好
08:01
The machine will make the work.
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08:02
And now we can go to the library."
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所以現在我們可以去圖書館了。"
由於這個神奇的事情:
08:05
Because this is the magic:
you load the laundry,
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你把衣物放進去以後,
08:08
and what do you get out of the machine?
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你可以藉由洗衣機得到什麼?
08:10
You get books out of the machines,
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你可以藉由洗衣機得到書本,
兒童讀物。
08:14
children's books.
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08:15
And mother got time to read for me.
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而媽媽有空可以念給我聽
08:17
She loved this.
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她喜歡這件事,我得到了 "ABC"
08:18
I got the "ABC's" -- this is why
I started my career as a professor,
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這是我以教授作為工作的起點,
08:22
when my mother had time to read for me.
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在我媽媽有空念給我聽之後
08:24
And she also got books for herself.
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她也為自己得到了一些書
08:26
She managed to study English
and learn that as a foreign language.
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她開始唸英文,
學習這個作為第一外語
08:30
And she read so many novels,
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她讀了許多小說,
08:32
so many different novels here.
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許多不同的小說
08:35
And we really,
we really loved this machine.
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我們真的很愛洗衣機
08:38
(Laughter)
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08:39
And what we said, my mother and me,
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而媽媽和我想說的是,
08:42
"Thank you, industrialization.
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"謝謝工業化
08:45
Thank you, steel mill.
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謝謝鋼鐵廠
08:47
Thank you, power station.
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謝謝電廠
08:49
And thank you,
chemical processing industry
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謝謝化學製品工業,
08:52
that gave us time to read books."
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給予我們唸書的時間。"
08:54
Thank you very much.
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非常感謝大家
08:55
(Laughter)
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08:56
(Applause)
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