Teach every child about food | Jamie Oliver

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譯者: Bill Hsiung 審譯者: Jing Yao
不幸地,
00:16
Sadly,
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在接下來十八分鐘的演說中,
00:18
in the next 18 minutes when I do our chat,
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四位美國人
00:21
four Americans that are alive
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將會死亡,
00:24
will be dead through the food that they eat.
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死因是不當的飲食習慣。
我叫做傑米•奧利佛,三十四歲,
00:29
My name's Jamie Oliver.
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00:31
I'm 34 years old.
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來自英國的艾塞克斯郡。
00:33
I'm from Essex in England
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過去七年來,
00:35
and for the last seven years
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我孜孜不倦,
00:38
I've worked fairly tirelessly to save lives in my own way.
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用自己的方式拯救生命。
我不是一名醫生,
00:44
I'm not a doctor;
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我是個廚師,
00:46
I'm a chef,
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00:47
I don't have expensive equipment
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我沒有昂貴的設備,
00:49
or medicine.
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或藥品。
00:51
I use information, education.
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我利用資訊和教育拯救生命,
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I profoundly believe that the power of food
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我深信食物的力量,
00:57
has a primal place in our homes
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在我們的家庭裡佔有一席之地,
01:00
that binds us to the best bits of life.
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為我們留住生命中的美好。
但我們正面臨一個,
01:07
We have an awful, awful reality right now.
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極為糟糕的現狀。
01:13
America, you're at the top of your game.
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美國的情況尤其嚴重,
美國是全世界最不健康的國家之一。
01:17
This is one of the most unhealthy countries in the world.
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01:20
Can I please just see a raise of hands
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麻煩各位舉個手讓我知道,
現場有多少人是為人父母?
01:23
for how many of you have children in this room today?
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請舉個手。
01:26
Put your hands up.
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01:27
You can continue to put your hands up, aunties and uncles as well.
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是叔叔、阿姨等等的,
也請舉手。是叔叔阿姨的也舉手。
01:31
Most of you. OK.
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大部份都是,好。
01:33
We, the adults of the last four generations,
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我們過去四個世代的成年人,
01:36
have blessed our children with the destiny
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賦予了我們的孩子一個命運,
01:39
of a shorter lifespan than their own parents.
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那就是壽命減短,
比父母的壽命還短,
你孩子的壽命
01:45
Your child will live a life ten years younger than you
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會比你短十年。
這是由我們提供給他們的各式食物所造成的。
01:50
because of the landscape of food that we've built around them.
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根據統計數字,現在,
01:54
Two-thirds of this room,
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全美國有三分之二的人口,過重或是肥胖。
01:56
today, in America, are statistically overweight or obese.
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你們看起來還好,但別擔心,肥胖會找上你的。
01:59
You lot, you're all right,
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02:00
but we'll get you eventually, don't worry.
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(笑聲)
02:02
(Laughter)
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對吧?
從統計數字上看來,明顯的不健康,
02:04
The statistics of bad health are clear,
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非常明顯。
02:07
very clear.
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我們終其一生都在害怕死亡、謀殺、殺人犯,
02:09
We spend our lives being paranoid about death, murder, homicide,
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你可以隨口說出一堆。因為那些事件被刊登在報紙的頭條,甚至 CNN 新聞。
02:12
you name it; it's on the front page of every paper, CNN.
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但老天爺啊,謀殺的死亡率還排在最底下呢!
02:16
Look at homicide at the bottom, for God's sake.
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對吧?
02:19
Right?
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(笑聲)
02:20
(Laughter)
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(掌聲)
02:22
(Applause)
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螢幕上你所看到用紅色標出的
02:27
Every single one of those in the red is a diet-related disease.
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都是與飲食相關的疾病。
任何醫生、專科醫生都會這樣告訴你,
02:31
Any doctor, any specialist will tell you that.
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這是千真萬確的事實,與飲食相關的疾病是全美國
02:34
Fact: diet-related disease is the biggest killer
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最大的殺手,就是現在,今日,在這裡。
02:37
in the United States, right now, here today.
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這是個全球性的問題,
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This is a global problem.
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是個災難,
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It's a catastrophe.
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It's sweeping the world.
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這個災難正席捲全球。
02:48
England is right behind you, as usual.
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英國,一如往常,緊追在美國後面。
(笑聲)
02:51
(Laughter)
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我知道他們(英國)很接近了,但(離美國)還有一段距離。
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I know they were close, but not that close.
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我們需要一場革命,
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We need a revolution.
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02:59
Mexico, Australia, Germany,
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墨西哥、澳洲、德國、印度和中國,
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India, China,
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都面臨了肥胖和不健康的問題。
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all have massive problems of obesity and bad health.
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讓我們想想看菸害,
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Think about smoking.
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現在菸害對於社會所造成的損害已經遠低於肥胖了。
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It costs way less than obesity now.
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肥胖問題佔據美國社會
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Obesity costs you Americans 10 percent of your health-care bills,
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醫療支出負擔的百分之十,
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150 billion dollars a year.
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那是一年一千五百億美元。
十年內這個數字會上翻兩倍,
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In 10 years, it's set to double:
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成為一年三千億。
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300 billion dollars a year.
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03:25
Let's be honest, guys, you haven't got that cash.
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誠實點吧,各位,你們沒這麼多錢。
03:28
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
我今天在此,要發動一場食物革命,
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I came here to start a food revolution that I so profoundly believe in.
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我對此堅信不已。
我們需要這場革命,刻不容緩,
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We need it. The time is now.
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03:40
We're in a tipping-point moment.
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我們處在一個關鍵的轉折期。
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I've been doing this for seven years.
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我已經為此持續努力了七年了,
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I've been trying in America for seven years.
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我已經花了七年時間在美國嘗試。
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Now is the time when it's ripe -- ripe for the picking.
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現在該是它成熟的時候了,該是收穫的時候了。
我直搗暴風眼,
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I went to the eye of the storm.
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我去了西維吉尼亞,美國最不健康的一個州,
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I went to West Virginia, the most unhealthy state in America.
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或應該說去年以前是這樣,
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Or it was last year.
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03:56
We've got a new one this year, but we'll work on that next season.
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今年這個頭銜換人了,但是我們接下來會幫助他們。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
西維吉尼亞的亨丁頓,
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Huntington, West Virginia. Beautiful town.
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一個美麗的小鎮。
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I wanted to put heart and soul and people,
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我希望將心靈、人群,
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your public,
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還有社區大眾,
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around the statistics that we've become so used to.
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放到我們已經習以為常的
冷淡的統計數據中。
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I want to introduce you to some of the people that I care about:
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我希望將我關心的一些人介紹給你們,
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your public, your children.
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你們的社會,你們的孩子。
我希望給你們看一張我朋友布列塔尼的照片,
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I want to show a picture of my friend Brittany.
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04:19
She's 16 years old.
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她才 16 歲,
但她只剩六年可活,
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She's got six years to live
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全是因為她所吃的食物。
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because of the food that she's eaten.
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她是第三代的美國人,
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She's the third generation of Americans
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that hasn't grown up within a food environment
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一個在沒有妥善飲食的環境下長大的世代,
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where they've been taught to cook at home or in school,
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這個世代從未被教導過如何烹飪,在家沒有,在學校沒有,
他媽媽沒有教他,他祖母也沒有教他。
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or her mom, or her mom's mom.
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She has six years to live.
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她只剩六年可活。
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She's eating her liver to death.
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她把她的肝臟吃壞了。
愛德華家庭的史黛西,
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Stacy, the Edwards family.
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This is a normal family, guys.
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各位,這個家庭並不是一個特例,
史黛西已經盡她所能,但是她也同屬這個世代,
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Stacy does her best, but she's third-generation as well;
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她從未在家裏或學校學過煮飯做菜,
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she was never taught to cook at home or at school.
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這個家庭有肥胖問題。
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The family's obese.
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Justin here, 12 years old, he's 350 pounds.
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在這裡是 12 歲的賈司丁,
他重 350 磅 (160 公斤)。
天殺的,他常常被取笑。
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He gets bullied, for God's sake.
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這家庭的女兒,凱蒂,她才四歲大,
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The daughter there, Katie, she's four years old.
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甚至還沒上小學,她就已經有肥胖問題了。
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She's obese before she even gets to primary school.
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瑪利莎,她還好,她跟在場的你們一般。
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Marissa, she's all right, she's one of your lot.
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但是你們知道嗎?她有個有肥胖問題的爸爸,
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But you know what?
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Her father, who was obese, died in her arms,
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她爸爸就在她眼前過世。
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And then the second most important man in her life,
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然後她生命中第二重要的男人,
她的叔叔,也因肥胖過世。
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her uncle, died of obesity,
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and now her step-dad is obese.
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現在,她的繼父同樣有肥胖問題。
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You see, the thing is,
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所以你們知道了,但問題是
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obesity and diet-related disease
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肥胖和飲食相關的疾病,
並不只是傷害患病的人,
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doesn't just hurt the people that have it;
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它也會傷害所有他們的親朋好友
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it's all of their friends, families, brothers, sisters.
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和兄弟姊妹。
史帝夫牧師,
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Pastor Steve:
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一個鼓舞人心的角色。我在西維吉尼亞亨丁頓早期的盟友之一。
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an inspirational man,
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one of my early allies in Huntington, West Virginia.
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他就站在這個問題的最前線。
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He's at the sharp knife-edge of this problem.
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因為他必須親自送這些人最後一程,你能想像嗎?
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He has to bury the people, OK?
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他已經受夠了,他已經受夠總是替他的朋友、
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And he's fed up with it.
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He's fed up with burying his friends, his family, his community.
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他的家人、他的社區送終。
每到冬天,死亡人數更會增至三倍之多。
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Come winter, three times as many people die.
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He's sick of it.
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他對此非常的厭倦。
這是可以預防的疾病,真是浪費生命。
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This is preventable disease. Waste of life.
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順帶一提,這是用來埋葬他們的棺材,
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By the way, this is what they get buried in.
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我們都不夠份量來埋葬他們。
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We're not geared up to do this.
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甚至連親手送他們的棺材出門都不行,我是很嚴肅的這麼說,
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Can't even get them out the door, and I'm being serious.
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06:03
Can't even get them there. Forklift.
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甚至連幫忙送上堆高機都不行。
好的,我是以一個三角關係來看待這個問題,好嗎?
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OK, I see it as a triangle, OK?
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06:08
This is our landscape of food.
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這是我們食品的樣貌,
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I need you to understand it.
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我需要你們了解它,
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You've probably heard all this before.
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你們之前大概都已經聽過類似的說法了,
但是還是讓我們倒回去再說一次。
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Over the last 30 years,
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過去的卅年間,
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what's happened that's ripped the heart out of this country?
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發生了什麼事,幾乎要將這個國家的心臟給掏了出來?
讓我們開誠佈公的說,
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Let's be frank and honest.
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這個嘛,現代生活,
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Well, modern-day life.
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Let's start with the Main Street.
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讓我們從大街上看起。
我們知道,速食已經佔據了這整個國家。
06:25
Fast food has taken over the whole country; we know that.
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有名的速食品牌名列這個國家最有勢力,
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The big brands are some of the most important powers,
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powerful powers, in this country.
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最有影響力的名單中,
超市也是。
06:33
(Sighs)
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Supermarkets as well.
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大公司,大品牌。
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Big companies. Big companies.
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卅年前,大多數的食物
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Thirty years ago, most of the food
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幾乎仍是區域性的、新鮮的食材。
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was largely local and largely fresh.
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現在,它們被高度加工,並含有大量食品添加物,
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Now it's largely processed and full of all sorts of additives,
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多餘的調味,接下來的發展大家都知道了。
06:47
extra ingredients, and you know the rest of the story.
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食物的份量顯然是個非常、非常大的問題。
06:50
Portion size is obviously a massive, massive problem.
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標示也是個大問題,
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Labeling is a massive problem.
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這個國家食品的標示是個恥辱。
06:57
The labeling in this country is a disgrace.
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他們想要 ... 他們想要自己球員兼裁判,
07:00
The industry wants to self-police themselves.
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食品業想要靠自我把關。
什麼?在這種現況下,他們不配!
07:06
What, in this kind of climate? They don't deserve it.
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07:08
How can you say something is low-fat when it's full of so much sugar?
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你怎麼能說某樣東西是低脂的,但同時它充滿了過量的糖份?
家庭。
07:13
Home.
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家庭發生的最大問題
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The biggest problem with the home
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在於,它以往位於
07:18
is that used to be the heart of passing on food culture,
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傳遞食物以及飲食文化的中樞心臟地帶,
這個文化組成了我們的社會。
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what made our society.
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07:25
That is not happening anymore.
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然而這已經成為了過去式。
就你們所知,當我們去工作,且生活型態不斷在改變的同時,
07:27
And you know, as we go to work and as life changes,
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就像生命永遠在進化一般,
07:30
and as life always evolves,
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我們必須以全觀的視角來看待這個問題,
07:32
we kind of have to look at it holistically --
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退後一步想一想,然後重拾生活的平衡。
07:34
step back for a moment, and re-address the balance.
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這並沒有發生,已經卅年沒有發生了。
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It hasn't happened for 30 years, OK?
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我希望給你們看一個例子,
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I want to show you a situation
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這在現在
07:42
that is very normal right now; the Edwards family.
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非常的常見。以下是愛德華家庭。
07:46
(Video) Jamie Oliver: Let's have a talk.
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(影片)奧利佛:讓我們聊一聊,
這些東西每週都經過你
07:49
This stuff goes through you and your family's body every week.
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和你家人的身體。
07:53
And I need you to know
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而我需要你了解,這些東西會讓你的兒女早逝。
07:55
that this is going to kill your children early.
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07:59
How are you feeling?
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你現在覺得如何?
08:01
Stacy: Just feeling really sad and depressed right now.
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史黛西:我現在覺得非常傷心和沮喪。
但,你知道,我希望我的孩子都有個成功的人生,
08:05
But, you know, I want my kids to succeed in life
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但是這些東西並不會使他們成功。
08:09
and this isn't going to get them there.
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取而代之的,我在殘害他們。
08:12
But I'm killing them.
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奧利佛:沒錯,你正在殘害他們。
08:14
JO: Yes you are. You are.
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但是我們可以停止這個錯誤。
08:17
But we can stop that.
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這是常態。現在讓我們到學校看看,
08:23
Normal.
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08:25
Let's get on schools,
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說到學校的飲食,我可以稱得上是一個專家。
08:27
something that I'm fairly much a specialist in.
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好,學校。
08:30
OK, school.
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學校是什麼?誰發明了學校?學校的目的是什麼?
08:32
What is school? Who invented it? What's the purpose of school?
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創立學校的目的,一直以來,就是提供我們更好的
08:35
School was always invented to arm us with the tools
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創造與想像力的工具,用來成就不凡,
08:38
to make us creative, do wonderful things,
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08:40
make us earn a living, etc., etc.
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讓我們賴以維生 ... 等等。
08:43
You know, it's been kind of in this sort of tight box for a long, long time, OK?
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你知道嗎,學校制度已經處在象牙塔內很久很久了。
對吧?
但是我們還沒有真的使其
08:48
But we haven't really evolved it
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朝向應付美國健康災難的路上前進,對吧?
08:50
to deal with the health catastrophes of America, OK?
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學校食物是多數孩子們,
08:53
School food is something
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事實上,大約每天三千一百萬的孩子,
08:56
that most kids -- 31 million a day, actually --
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每天兩餐,通常是
08:59
have twice a day, more than often, breakfast and lunch,
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早餐和午餐,每年 180 天的食物來源。
09:04
180 days of the year.
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所以你可以說學校的食物非常重要,真的,
09:05
So you could say that school food is quite important, really,
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從現況來看。
09:08
judging the circumstances.
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09:10
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:15
Before I crack into my rant,
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在我開始忍不住罵髒話前,
我相信你們一直都在等我開口罵髒話 ...
09:18
which I'm sure you're waiting for --
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09:20
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
我需要說一件事,而且這件事非常地重要,
09:23
I need to say one thing, and it's so important
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09:25
in, hopefully, the magic that happens and unfolds
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希望在未來的三個月內,
09:28
in the next three months.
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奇蹟會發生並擴展開來。
這些午餐小姐,美國的午餐廚師 ...
09:30
The lunch ladies, the lunch cooks of America --
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我自願充當他們的大使,
09:33
I offer myself as their ambassador.
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09:36
I'm not slagging them off.
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我不是指責他們懶惰,
09:38
They're doing the best they can do.
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他們已經盡其所能了,
他們都已經盡力了。
09:43
They're doing their best.
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但是他們是按照命令做事,
09:45
But they're doing what they're told,
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然而這些命令是不正確的。
09:47
and what they're being told to do is wrong.
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09:49
The system is highly run by accountants;
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這個體制是由會計師們所經營的。
09:52
there's not enough, or any, food-knowledgeable people in the business.
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並沒有足夠 — 甚至連一個都可能沒有 —
對食物知識淵博的人身在這行中。
09:56
There's a problem:
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這是問題的所在。
09:58
If you're not a food expert, and you've got tight budgets
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如果你不是個食物專家,同時又受限於微薄的預算,
經費愈來愈緊,那麼你就無法發揮創造力,
10:01
and it's getting tighter, then you can't be creative,
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你無法躲避、潛藏或是嘗試改變規則。
10:03
you can't duck and dive and write different things around things.
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如果你是一個會計師,或是一個股市操盤者,
10:07
If you're an accountant, and a box-ticker,
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你在這個情況下,所能做的唯一一件事
10:09
the only thing you can do in these circumstances
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就是購買廉價的垃圾。
10:11
is buy cheaper shit.
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10:12
Now, the reality is,
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現在,現況是
10:13
the food that your kids get every day is fast food,
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你們的孩子們每天吃的食物是速食,
速食是高度加工的,
10:17
it's highly processed,
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10:18
there's not enough fresh food in there at all.
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並沒有足夠的新鮮食物包含在其中。
你知道的,這些食品添加物的含量、歐盟的 E 編碼、調味料,你不會相信的 ...
10:21
You know, the amount of additives, E numbers,
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10:23
ingredients you wouldn't believe --
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10:24
there's not enough veggies at all.
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蔬菜含量遠遠不夠,薯條被認為是蔬菜的一種,
10:26
French fries are considered a vegetable.
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早餐吃義大利薄餅。他們甚至不提供陶瓷餐具,
10:28
Pizza for breakfast. They don't even get crockery.
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更遑論刀叉了!理由是刀叉對孩子太危險。
10:31
Knives and forks? No, they're too dangerous.
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教室裡面可以有剪刀,
10:34
They have scissors in the classroom,
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但是竟然不允許餐廳的刀叉。
10:36
but knives and forks? No.
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10:37
And the way I look at it is:
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我看待這件事的觀點是,如果你在學校裡面禁止使用刀叉作為餐具,
10:38
If you don't have knives and forks in your school,
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你純粹只是在助長,
10:41
you're purely endorsing,
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10:42
from a state level, fast food, because it's handheld.
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以州的立場,助長速食。因為速食可以用手抓著吃。
然後順帶一題,是的,就是速食。是漢堡上的碎牛肉、
10:46
And yes, by the way, it is fast food:
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10:47
It's sloppy Joes, it's burgers,
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漢堡、熱狗、
10:49
it's wieners, it's pizzas, it's all of that stuff.
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比薩,都是這些東西。
10:53
(Sighs)
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10:55
Ten percent of what we spend on health care, as I said earlier,
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就像我先前說過的,我們健保醫療支出的 10%
10:58
is on obesity, and it's going to double.
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是花在肥胖疾病上,而且這數字將會倍增。
我們沒有教導我們的孩子。
11:02
We're not teaching our kids.
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11:03
There's no statutory right to teach kids about food,
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因為法律沒有明文規定我們要教導孩子關於食物的知識,
不管是小學還是中學,對吧?
11:06
elementary or secondary school, OK?
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我們沒有教導孩子與食物有關的知識,對吧?
11:08
We don't teach kids about food, right?
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這是一段來自於小學的短片,
11:10
And this is a little clip from an elementary school,
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這在英國也是非常的常見。
11:13
which is very common in England.
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影片:誰知道這是什麼?
11:17
(Video) Who knows what this is?
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11:18
Child: Potatoes.
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孩童:馬鈴薯。奧利佛:馬鈴薯?你認為這些是馬鈴薯?
11:19
Jamie Oliver: Potato? So, you think these are potatoes?
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你知道這是什麼嗎?
11:22
Do you know what that is?
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11:23
Do you know what that is?
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你知道這是什麼嗎?孩童:花椰菜?
11:25
Child: Broccoli?
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奧利佛:那這個呢?我們的老朋友。
11:26
JO: What about this? Our good old friend.
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小甜心,你知道這是什麼嗎?孩童:芹菜。
11:28
Child: Celery.
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11:29
JO: No. What do you think this is?
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奧利佛:不。你認為這是什麼?孩童:洋蔥。奧利佛:洋蔥?不。
11:31
Child: Onion. JO: Onion? No.
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奧利佛:馬上你就能很清楚地看出
11:33
JO: Immediately you get a really clear sense
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11:35
of "Do the kids know anything about where food comes from?"
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孩子們到底知不知道食物是從哪裡來的。
影片:奧利佛:誰知道這是什麼?孩童:呃,梨子。
11:39
Who knows what that is? Child: Uh, pear?
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奧利佛:你認為這是什麼?孩童:我不知道。
11:41
JO: What do you think this is? Child: I don't know.
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奧利佛:如果孩童不認識這些食物,
11:43
JO: If the kids don't know what stuff is,
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那麼他們永遠不會去吃它。
11:45
then they will never eat it.
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(笑聲)
11:49
(Laughter)
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奧利佛:這在英國跟美國是常態,
11:50
JO: Normal. England and America,
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英國跟美國。
11:53
England and America.
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11:54
Guess what fixed that.
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猜猜怎麼補救,怎樣才能挽救?
只要兩堂一小時的課。
11:57
Two one-hour sessions.
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我們必須開始在學校裡
12:00
We've got to start teaching our kids about food in schools, period.
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教導孩子們與食物有關的知識,就這麼簡單。
12:04
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
我想告訴你們一件事,
12:10
I want to tell you about something
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有關於我們所遭遇的
12:14
that kind of epitomizes the trouble that we're in, guys, OK?
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麻煩處境的縮影,沒問題吧?
我想談談像是牛奶這麼基本的東西,
12:18
I want to talk about something so basic as milk.
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12:21
Every kid has the right to milk at school.
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每個孩子都有在學校喝牛奶的權利。
12:23
Your kids will be having milk at school, breakfast and lunch, right?
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你們的孩子在學校的早午餐都會喝牛奶,對吧?
他們一天會喝兩瓶,對吧?
12:27
They'll be having two bottles, OK?
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大多數的孩子是這樣。
12:29
And most kids do.
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12:30
But milk ain't good enough anymore.
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但是牛奶已經不再是好東西了,
12:33
Don't get me wrong, I support milk --
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因為在牛奶理事會的某人,是的,請不要誤解,
我支持牛奶,但是在牛奶理事會的某人,
12:36
but someone at the milk board
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也許付了一堆錢給某些怪人,
12:38
probably paid a lot of money for some geezer to work out
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他們發現如果你加入大量的香料、色素
12:41
that if you put loads of flavorings,
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和糖份到牛奶裡面,是的,
12:42
colorings and sugar in milk,
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更多的孩子會去喝牛奶,是的。
12:44
more kids will drink it.
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12:46
Yeah.
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(掌聲)
很明顯的,這種做法有後來居上的趨勢。
12:48
Obviously now that's going to catch on
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蘋果理事會將會發現,
12:50
the apple board is going to work out
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如果他們做太妃糖蘋果,孩子們也會吃更多的蘋果。
12:52
that if they make toffee apples they'll eat more as well.
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你們知道我在說什麼嗎?
12:55
Do you know what I mean?
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對我來說,我認為在牛奶中添加香料完全沒有必要。
12:56
For me, there isn't any need to flavor the milk.
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對吧?每樣東西內都有糖。
12:59
Okay? There's sugar in everything.
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我對這些調味料瞭若指掌。
13:01
I know the ins and outs of those ingredients.
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所有東西中都有糖,甚至連牛奶也不例外,
13:03
It's in everything.
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13:04
Even the milk hasn't escaped the kind of modern-day problems.
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這是現代食物的通病。
這是我們的牛奶,這是我們的牛奶包裝。
13:08
There's our milk. There's our carton.
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在那包裝裡面的含糖量,
13:10
In that is nearly as much sugar as one of your favorite cans of fizzy pop,
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幾乎等於一罐你喜歡的碳酸飲料易開罐包裝,
然後他們每天喝兩瓶。
13:14
and they are having two a day.
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13:15
So, let me just show you.
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所以,現在讓我給你們看看。
13:17
We've got one kid, here --
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在這邊,我們有一個孩子,
你知道的,一天吃八湯匙的糖份。
13:22
having, you know, eight tablespoons of sugar a day.
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13:26
You know, there's your week.
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你知道嗎,這是一星期的量,
13:29
There's your month.
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而這是一個月的量,
13:32
And I've taken the liberty of putting in
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現在容我擅自
13:34
just the five years of elementary school sugar,
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將小學五年裡,僅從牛奶中
所攝取到的糖份倒進這邊。
13:41
just from milk.
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現在,我不知道各位怎麼想,
13:46
Now, I don't know about you guys,
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但是從客觀情況來看,是的,
13:48
but judging the circumstances, right,
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13:50
any judge in the whole world,
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在這世界上的任何一位法官,
將會看著證據與統計數字,
13:53
would look at the statistics and the evidence,
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13:55
and they would find any government of old guilty of child abuse.
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然後他們將會判決政府
一直在虐待兒童,這是我所相信的。
13:59
That's my belief.
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(掌聲)
14:00
(Applause)
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14:07
(Applause ends)
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現在,如果我到台上來,我也希望我今天到台上來,
14:09
Now, if I came up here, and I wish I could come up here today
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能提出愛滋病或是癌症的解藥,
14:12
and hang a cure for AIDS or cancer,
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你們將會爭先恐後的希望能夠認識我。
14:15
you'd be fighting and scrambling to get to me.
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14:18
This, all this bad news, is preventable.
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這些,所有的這些壞消息,是可以被預防的。
這是一個好消息。
14:22
That's the good news.
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14:23
It's very, very preventable.
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這些問題是極度能夠被預防的。
所以,讓我們一起來想想,現在有個問題,
14:26
So, let's just think about, we got a problem here,
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我們需要重新來過。
14:29
we need to reboot.
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好,那麼,我們到底該怎麼做?
14:31
Okay so, in my world, what do we need to do?
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所以,這邊有一個重點,
14:34
Here is the thing, right,
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14:35
it cannot just come from one source.
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那就是解決問題不能僅由一個來源著手。
為了重新來過,並且做出明顯的改變,
14:38
To reboot and make real tangible change,
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真正的改變,這樣我才有辦法直視你的雙眼,
14:41
real change, so that I could look you in the white of the eyes
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然後說:「十年內,
14:44
and say, "In 10 years' time,
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你們孩子生命的歷史正在發生,
14:46
the history of your children's lives,
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喜樂 — 並讓我們不要忘記,如果你們吃得好,會變得更聰明,
14:48
happiness -- and let's not forget, you're clever if you eat well,
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你確信你將會更長壽,
14:51
you know you're going to live longer --
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所有的這些事物都將會變得不同,對吧?」
14:53
all of that stuff, it will look different. OK?"
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因此,超級市場。
14:56
So, supermarkets.
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還有哪裡你會這麼規律的去消費?
14:58
Where else do you shop so religiously?
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每週進出,
15:00
Week in, week out.
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15:01
How much money do you spend, in your life, in a supermarket?
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在你一生中,有多少錢是花在超市購物上?
15:04
Love them.
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很愛他們吧,他們只會賣給我們我們所想要的東西,沒錯。
15:05
They just sell us what we want. All right.
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15:07
They owe us to put a food ambassador in every major supermarket.
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身為他們的衣食父母,我們有權利要求
在每一個主要超市內安排一個食物大使。
15:12
They need to help us shop.
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超市必須幫助我們購物,他們必須教我們如何烹調
15:14
They need to show us how to cook quick, tasty, seasonal meals
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快速、好吃、當季的食物,
給那些忙碌的人們。
15:18
for people that are busy.
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這並不昂貴。
15:20
This is not expensive.
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某些超市已經這麼做了,現在我們必須在全美國的
15:22
It is done in some, and it needs to be done across the board
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超市推廣,並且要快。
15:24
in America soon, and quick.
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那些知名品牌,你知道的,食品的大廠,
15:27
The big brands, you know, the food brands,
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需要在他們的業務中心
15:30
need to put food education at the heart of their businesses.
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投注食品教育。
15:33
I know, easier said than done.
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我知道,說得輕鬆,做起來難。
15:35
It's the future. It's the only way.
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但是為了美好的未來,這是唯一的途徑。
15:37
Fast food.
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速食。速食產業,
15:39
With the fast-food industry
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你知道的,非常的競爭。
15:42
you know, it's very competitive.
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我和速食餐廳間有大量的秘密文件
15:44
I've had loads of secret papers and dealings
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和生意往來。
15:46
with fast food restaurants.
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我知道他們是怎麼做的。
15:48
I know how they do it.
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15:49
I mean, basically they've weaned us on
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我是說,基本上,他們已經讓我們戒斷
這些熱門的糖、鹽、脂肪等等。
15:52
to these hits of sugar, salt and fat, and x, y, and z,
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而且大家都愛他們,對吧?
15:55
and everyone loves them, right?
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所以,這些傢伙將會是解決方案的一部分。
15:57
So, these guys are going to be part of the solution.
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但是我們需要政府的加入,
16:00
But we need to get the government to work
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連同所有這些速食的推廣者和餐飲業。
16:02
with all of the fast food purveyors and the restaurant industry,
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使在接下來的五、六、七年間,
16:05
and over a five, six, seven year period
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讓我們戒斷過量的
16:07
wean of us off the extreme amounts
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16:09
of fat, sugar and all the other non-food ingredients.
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脂肪、糖份、脂肪和所有的這些不屬於食物的調味料。
現在,讓我們回到與品牌相關的問題,標示,
16:13
Now, also, back to the sort of big brands:
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16:15
labeling, I said earlier, is an absolute farce
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我先前說過了,這些標示是一場鬧劇,
16:18
and has got to be sorted.
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必須要加以解決。
好了,學校。
16:21
OK, school.
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16:23
Obviously, in schools, we owe it to them
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很明顯的,在學校中,我們欠這些孩子,
我們必須確保每年學期中的 180 天,
16:26
to make sure those 180 days of the year,
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從那些寶貝的四歲小朋友,
16:28
from that little precious age of four,
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到 18, 20, 24 或不管幾歲,
16:30
until 18, 20, 24, whatever,
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我們都需要為他們準備
16:32
they need to be cooked proper, fresh food
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妥善烹調的新鮮食物,
使用的是當地生長的食材,好嗎?
16:37
from local growers on site, OK?
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我們需要為你們的孩子建立一個新的、
16:39
There needs to be a new standard of fresh, proper food
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妥善的新鮮食物標準,對吧?
16:41
for your children, yeah?
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(掌聲)
16:43
(Applause)
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16:47
Under the circumstances, it's profoundly important
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在這種現況下,我們要使每一個美國孩童
在離開學校前,知道如何烹煮十道菜,
16:51
that every single American child leaves school
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16:53
knowing how to cook 10 recipes
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這件事非常地重要,
16:55
that will save their life.
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這將會拯救他們的生命。
這也是一種生活技巧。
16:58
Life skills.
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16:59
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
那意味著他們可以是學生、年輕家長,
17:01
That means that they can be students, young parents,
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並且能夠對於基本的烹飪技巧
17:04
and be able to sort of duck and dive around the basics of cooking,
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游刃有餘,
17:08
no matter what recession hits them next time.
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不管下一次經濟蕭條何時會影響到他們。如果你會烹飪,
17:10
If you can cook, recession money doesn't matter.
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薪資縮水的影響就沒那麼巨大了。
如果你會烹飪,蕭條的時間也不重要了。
17:13
If you can cook, time doesn't matter.
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工作場所,我們還沒有真正談到這邊。
17:17
The workplace, we haven't really talked about it.
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17:19
You know, it's now time for corporate responsibility
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你知道,現在該是企業負起責任的時候了,
好好的看看他們為他們的員工
17:23
to really look at what they feed or make available to their staff.
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所準備並供應給他們的食物。
這些員工都是美國孩童的爸媽。
17:27
The staff are the moms and dads of America's children.
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17:30
Marissa, her father died in her hand,
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瑪麗莎,她父親在她面前死去,
我相信如果美國企業能夠
17:33
I think she'd be quite happy
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開始提供他們的員工妥善的飲食,瑪麗莎將會非常高興。
17:35
if corporate America could start feeding their staff properly.
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他們絕對不應該被遺忘。
17:38
Definitely they shouldn't be left out.
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回過頭來談談家庭。
17:40
Let's go back to the home.
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17:41
Now, look, if we do all this stuff, and we can,
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現在,聽著,如果我們通通做到了,而且我們做得到,
絕對做得到。你們可以照顧人們並同時維持生計。
17:44
it's so achievable.
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17:45
You can care and be commercial.
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17:46
Absolutely.
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絕對可以。
17:47
But the home needs to start passing on cooking again, for sure.
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但是家庭需要再次開始傳遞
烹飪技術,這一點是確定的。
17:52
For sure, pass it on as a philosophy.
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必須要將其當作是一種生活哲學般的傳遞下去。
對我來說,這件事情是非常浪漫的。
17:55
And for me, it's quite romantic,
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但這也是說,如果一個人教導三個人
17:57
but it's about if one person teaches three people
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如何做某樣菜,
17:59
how to cook something,
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然後他們又再教導三個他們的夥伴,
18:01
and they teach three of their mates,
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18:02
that only has to repeat itself 25 times,
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大家只需要重複這樣做 25 次,
這就是全美國的人口數了。
18:05
and that's the whole population of America.
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18:07
Romantic, yes, but most importantly,
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浪漫,是的,但是
更重要的是,
18:11
it's about trying to get people to realize
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嘗試讓人們明瞭,
18:14
that every one of your individual efforts makes a difference.
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每一個人所付出的努力,
都可以帶來改變。
18:17
We've got to put back what's been lost.
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我們必須重拾已經失去的東西。
亨丁頓廚房,亨丁頓,我拍攝這個節目的地方,
18:20
Huntington's Kitchen.
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18:22
Huntington, where I made this program,
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18:24
we've got this prime-time program
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你知道,我們做了這個黃金時段的節目,希望
將能激發人們真正的做出改變。
18:26
that hopefully will inspire people to really get on this change.
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我真的相信這改變將會發生。
18:29
I truly believe that change will happen.
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亨丁頓廚房,我在一個社區工作,
18:31
Huntington's Kitchen. I work with a community.
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在學校裡面工作。我為其找到了當地可維持其運作的資金來源,
18:33
I worked in the schools.
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18:35
I found local sustainable funding
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讓該地區的每一個學校,
18:37
to get every single school in the area from the junk, onto the fresh food:
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從垃圾食物,轉變到新鮮食物。
18:41
six-and-a-half grand per school.
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每個學校只要六千五百美元。
(掌聲)
18:44
(Applause)
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這就是他們所需的,每個學校只要六千五。
18:45
That's all it takes, six-and-a-half grand per school.
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18:47
The Kitchen is 25 grand a month. Okay?
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我們的廚房一個月有兩萬五的經費,好嗎?
所以它一年可以教導五千個人,
18:50
This can do 5,000 people a year,
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大約是當地人口的十分之一。
18:53
which is 10 percent of their population,
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而且這是人人相傳下去。
18:55
and it's people on people.
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18:56
You know, it's local cooks teaching local people.
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你知道,當地的廚師教導當地的人們。
這是免費的烹任教是,各位,在大街上的免費烹飪教室。
18:59
It's free cooking lessons, guys, in the Main Street.
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這是真正的,明顯的改變,真正的,明顯的改變。
19:03
This is real, tangible change, real, tangible change.
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19:07
Around America, if we just look back now,
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跑遍全美,如果現在讓我們回過頭來看,
19:10
there is plenty of wonderful things going on.
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美妙的事情正在發生。
19:13
There is plenty of beautiful things going on.
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全美各處都有美妙的事情正在發生,全美各地
19:15
There are angels around America doing great things
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都有天使在成就一些偉大的事,
在學校內,校內農場,
19:19
in schools -- farm-to-school set-ups,
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花園,教育。
19:22
garden set-ups, education --
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19:24
there are amazing people doing this already.
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已經有一群不可思議的人們在這麼做了。
19:26
The problem is they all want to roll out
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問題在於儘管他們都希望能將他們所正在做的事情
19:28
what they're doing to the next school,
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推廣到下一個學校,然後再下一個。
19:30
but there's no cash.
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但是他們沒有錢。
我們必須快速的找到這些專家和天使,
19:33
We need to recognize the experts and the angels quickly,
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19:36
identify them, and allow them to easily find the resource
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認出他們,並讓他們能夠很容易的找到他們需要的資源,
以能持續推廣他們的所作所為,
19:40
to keep rolling out what they're already doing,
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並愈做愈好。
19:42
and doing well.
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美國的商業界需要支持
19:44
Businesses of America need to support
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總統夫人去做她想要做的事。
19:46
Mrs. Obama to do the things that she wants to do.
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(掌聲)
19:49
(Applause)
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聽著,我知道這很奇怪,
19:55
And look, I know it's weird
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一個英國人站在你們面前
19:57
having an English person standing here before you
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談論這些事物。
20:00
talking about all this.
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20:01
All I can say is: I care.
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我所能說的是,身為一個父親,我真的在乎。
20:03
I'm a father,
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我愛這個國家。
20:05
and I love this country.
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事實上,我真正的認為
20:07
And I believe truly, actually,
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20:09
that if change can be made in this country,
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如果這個國家能夠做出改變,
20:12
beautiful things will happen around the world.
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美妙的事情將會在世界上發生。如果美國這麼做了,
20:14
If America does it, other people will follow.
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我相信其他人將會效法。
這極端地重要。
20:17
It's incredibly important.
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20:18
(Audience) Yeah!
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(掌聲)
20:19
(Applause)
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20:25
When I was in Huntington,
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當我在亨丁頓,嘗試讓一些事情能順利運作,
20:26
trying to get a few things to work when they weren't,
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當事情進展得不順利時,我想過,如果我有個魔杖,
20:29
I thought "If I had a magic wand, what would I do?"
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我會做些什麼?然後我想,你知道嗎?
20:34
And I thought, "You know what?
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我會希望:我能夠站在美國最不可思議的一群
20:36
I'd just love to be put in front of some of the most amazing
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20:39
movers and shakers in America."
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有影響力的社會運動人士面前。
然後一個月後,TED 打電話通知我獲得了這個大獎。
20:42
And a month later, TED phoned me up and gave me this award.
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20:46
I'm here.
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我到這邊了。
20:50
So, my wish.
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所以,我希望
20:56
Dyslexic, so I'm a bit slow.
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閱讀障礙,所以我會唸得有些慢。
我希望,
21:04
My wish
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你們能夠幫助支持一個
21:06
is for you to help a strong, sustainable movement
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強大且持續性的運動,
教育每個孩子
21:10
to educate every child
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關於食物的知識,
21:14
about food,
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激發家庭重拾烹飪的樂趣,
21:16
to inspire families to cook again,
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賦予各地的大眾能力
21:20
and to empower people everywhere
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21:22
to fight obesity.
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來一起對抗肥胖問題。
(掌聲)
21:25
(Applause)
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謝謝各位
21:35
Thank you.
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21:36
(Applause continues)
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(掌聲)
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