Nilofer Merchant: Got a meeting? Take a walk

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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λ²ˆμ—­: Keun Wook Steve Kim κ²€ν† : Tae Young Choi
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What you're doing,
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μ§€κΈˆ λ°”λ‘œ
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right now, at this very moment,
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이 μˆœκ°„, 당신이 ν•˜κ³ μžˆλŠ” 행동이
00:18
is killing you.
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당신을 죽이고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:20
More than cars or the Internet
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μžλ™μ°¨λ‚˜ 인터넷
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or even that little mobile device we keep talking about,
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심지어 μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 항상 μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜λŠ” μ†Œν˜• μ „μžκΈ°κΈ°λ“€ 보닀도
00:25
the technology you're using the most almost every day
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거의 맀일 μš°λ¦¬κ°€ κ°€μž₯ 많이 μ‚¬μš©ν•˜λŠ” κΈ°μˆ μ€
00:28
is this, your tush.
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μ΄κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ—‰λ©μ΄μš”.
00:31
Nowadays people are sitting 9.3 hours a day,
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이제 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ ν•˜λ£¨μ— 9.3μ‹œκ°„ λ™μ•ˆμ΄λ‚˜ μ•‰μ•„μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:34
which is more than we're sleeping, at 7.7 hours.
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μˆ˜λ©΄μ‹œκ°„μΈ 7.7μ‹œκ°„ 보닀도 λ§Žμ€ μ…ˆμ΄μ£ .
00:38
Sitting is so incredibly prevalent,
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이 μ•‰λŠ”λ‹€λŠ” 행동이 λ„ˆλ¬΄λ‚˜ μ΅μˆ™ν•΄μ„œ
00:40
we don't even question how much we're doing it,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ–Όλ§ˆλ‚˜ 앉아 μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μƒκ°ν•˜μ§€λ„ μ•Šμ£ .
00:42
and because everyone else is doing it,
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λ˜ν•œ λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ 앉기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
00:45
it doesn't even occur to us that it's not okay.
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그것이 μ•ˆ μ’‹μ„κ±°λΌλŠ” 생각은 μ „ν˜€ 듀지 μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:47
In that way, sitting has become
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κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ, μ•‰λŠ”λ‹€λŠ” 것은
00:50
the smoking of our generation.
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우리 μ„ΈλŒ€μ—μ„œ 흑연과도 같은 것이 λ˜μ–΄ λ²„λ ΈμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:54
Of course there's health consequences to this,
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λ¬Όλ‘  건강에 λ―ΈμΉ˜λŠ” μ•…μ˜ν–₯이 있겠죠,
00:56
scary ones, besides the waist.
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λ¬΄μ‹œλ¬΄μ‹œ ν•œκ±°μš”.
ν—ˆλ¦¬ λ‘˜λ ˆλ₯Ό μ œμ™Έν•˜κ³ λ„ 말이죠.
μœ λ°©μ•”μ΄λ‚˜ λŒ€μž₯μ•” 같은 μ§ˆλ³‘λ“€μ€
00:59
Things like breast cancer and colon cancer
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01:03
are directly tied to our lack of physical [activity],
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우리의 신체 ν™œλ™ λΆ€μ‘±κ³Ό μ§κ²°λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:06
Ten percent in fact, on both of those.
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μ‹€μ œλ‘œ κ·Έ λ‘˜μ€ 10%의 직접적인 영ν–₯을 λ°›μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:08
Six percent for heart disease,
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심μž₯병은 6%,
01:10
seven percent for type 2 diabetes,
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2ν˜• 당뇨병에도 7%λ‚˜ 영ν–₯을 μ€λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:12
which is what my father died of.
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저희 μ•„λ²„μ§€μ˜ μ‚¬μΈμ΄μ—ˆμ£ .
01:15
Now, any of those stats should convince each of us
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κ·Έλ ‡λ‹€λ©΄, 이런 ν†΅κ³„μˆ˜μΉ˜κ°€ 우리λ₯Ό μžλ¦¬μ—μ„œ
01:17
to get off our duff more,
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μΌμ–΄λ‚˜λ„λ‘ ν•΄μ•Ό ν•˜λŠ”λ°,
01:18
but if you're anything like me, it won't.
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„λ„ μ €λž‘ λΉ„μŠ·ν•˜μ‹œκ² μ§€λ§Œ, 그렇지 μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:21
What did get me moving was a social interaction.
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λŒ€μ‹  μ €λ₯Ό μ›€μ§μ΄κ²Œ λ§Œλ“œλŠ” 것은 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€κ³Όμ˜ λ§Œλ‚¨μ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:24
Someone invited me to a meeting,
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λˆ„κ΅°κ°€ μ €λ₯Ό νšŒμ˜μ— μ΄ˆλŒ€ν–ˆλŠ”λ°,
01:26
but couldn't manage to fit me in
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μ €λŠ” νšŒμ˜μ‹€μ—μ„œ ν•˜λŠ”
01:27
to a regular sort of conference room meeting, and said,
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그런 μ’…λ₯˜μ˜ 회의λ₯Ό ν•˜κΈ°μ—” μ‹œκ°„μ΄ λ‚˜μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ”λ‹€κ³  λ§ν–ˆμ£ .
01:30
"I have to walk my dogs tomorrow. Could you come then?"
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"μ œκ°€ 내일 애완견을 μ‚°μ±…μ‹œν‚€λ €λŠ”λ° κ·Έ λ•Œ μ˜€μ‹€λž˜μš”?"
01:34
It seemed kind of odd to do,
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λ¬Όλ‘  μ’€ μ–΄μƒ‰ν•œ μ œμ•ˆμ΄μ§€λ§Œμš”.
01:36
and actually, that first meeting, I remember thinking,
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κ·Έ 첫 νšŒμ˜μ—μ„œ μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ μƒκ°ν–ˆλ˜ 것이 κΈ°μ–΅λ‚©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:38
"I have to be the one to ask the next question,"
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"λ‹€μŒ μ§ˆλ¬Έμ€ κΌ­ λ‚΄κ°€ ν•΄μ•Όκ² κ΅¬λ‚˜."
01:40
because I knew I was going to huff and puff
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ λŒ€ν™” 쀑에 μ œκ°€ 숨이 μ°¨
01:43
during this conversation.
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ν—‰ν—‰ 거릴 것을 μ•Œκ³  μžˆμ—ˆκ±°λ“ μš”.
01:45
And yet, I've taken that idea and made it my own.
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κ·ΈλŸΌμ—λ„ μ €λŠ” κ·Έ 아이디어λ₯Ό μ‹€μ²œν•΄ λ‚˜κ°”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:48
So instead of going to coffee meetings
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 컀피 λ§ˆμ‹œλ©° ν•˜λŠ” νšŒμ˜λ‚˜
01:50
or fluorescent-lit conference room meetings,
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μ•„λ‹ˆλ©΄ ν˜•κ΄‘λ“±μ΄ λ²ˆμ©μ΄λŠ” 회의μž₯μ—μ„œ λ§Œλ‚˜κΈ° λ³΄λ‹€λŠ”
01:52
I ask people to go on a walking meeting,
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μ €λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ μ‚°μ±… 회의λ₯Ό μ œμ•ˆν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:55
to the tune of 20 to 30 miles a week.
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일 주일에 μ•½ 20μ—μ„œ 30마일 μ •λ„μΈλ°μš”.
01:59
It's changed my life.
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그둜 인해 제 삢은 λ°”λ€Œμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:01
But before that, what actually happened was,
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이 μ „μ—λŠ”, 사싀
02:05
I used to think about it as,
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you could take care of your health,
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μ €λŠ” μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ μƒκ°ν•˜κ³€ ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
건강을 μ±™κΈ°κ±°λ‚˜,
02:07
or you could take care of obligations,
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주어진 μ±…μž„μ„ λ‹€ ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜.
02:10
and one always came at the cost of the other.
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ν•˜λ‚˜λ₯Ό νƒν•˜λ©΄ λ‹€λ₯Έ ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ” 포기 ν•΄μ•Ό λœλ‹€κ³  말이죠.
02:14
So now, several hundred of these walking meetings later,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ λͺ‡λ°± 번의 μ‚°μ±… 회의λ₯Ό ν•œ μ§€κΈˆμ€,
02:17
I've learned a few things.
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λͺ‡ 가지λ₯Ό μ•Œκ²Œ λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:18
First, there's this amazing thing
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첫 번째, νμ‡ λœ κ³΅κ°„μœΌλ‘œλΆ€ν„°
02:20
about actually getting out of the box
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λ°–μœΌλ‘œ λ‚˜μ˜€κ²Œ 되면, λ†€λžκ²Œλ„,
02:23
that leads to out-of-the-box thinking.
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ꡳ어진 μƒκ°μ˜ ν‹€μ—μ„œλ„ νƒˆμΆœν•˜κ²Œ λœλ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:25
Whether it's nature or the exercise itself, it certainly works.
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κ·Έ μ΄μœ κ°€ λ°–μ˜ μžμ—°μ΄λ“ , μš΄λ™ κ·Έ μžμ²΄μ΄λ“  λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ κ·Έλ ‡μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:29
And second, and probably the more reflective one,
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그리고 λ‘λ²ˆμ§Έ, μ‘°κΈˆμ€ 사색적인 μƒκ°μΈλ°μš”.
02:32
is just about how much each of us
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우리 μ„œλ‘œκ°€ μ—¬λŸ¬κ°€μ§€ λ¬Έμ œμ— λŒ€ν•΄μ„œ
02:34
can hold problems in opposition
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μ–Όλ§ˆλ‚˜ λ°˜λŒ€μ˜ μž…μž₯을 μ·¨ν•˜λŠλƒλŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:37
when they're really not that way.
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사싀은 그렇지 μ•Šμ€λ°λ„ 말이죠.
02:39
And if we're going to solve problems
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 정말 문제λ₯Ό ν•΄κ²°ν•˜κ³ μž ν•œλ‹€λ©΄
02:40
and look at the world really differently,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 세상을 μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ μ‹œκ°μœΌλ‘œ 보렀 ν•œλ‹€λ©΄,
02:42
whether it's in governance or business
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μ •μΉ˜μ— κ΄€ν•œ 것이든, κ²½μ˜μ— κ΄€ν•œ 것이든,
02:44
or environmental issues, job creation,
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μ•„λ‹ˆλ©΄ ν™˜κ²½ 문제, 일자리 μ°½μΆœκΉŒμ§€λ„
02:47
maybe we can think about how to reframe those problems
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μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ κ·Έ 문제λ₯Ό μž¬κ΅¬μ„±ν•˜μ—¬ λͺ¨λ‘μ˜ μž…μž₯을
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as having both things be true.
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μ§„μ‹€λ˜κ²Œ λ§Œλ“€ 수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€ 생각해봐야 ν•  κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:52
Because it was when that happened
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μ‚°μ±…ν•˜λ©° λŒ€ν™”ν•˜λŠ” 과정은
02:54
with this walk-and-talk idea
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이것을 이룰 수 μžˆλ„λ‘ ν•˜κ³ ,
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that things became doable and sustainable and viable.
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또 μ‹€ν–‰ κ°€λŠ₯ν•˜κ³  지속 κ°€λŠ₯ν•˜κ²Œ λ§Œλ“€κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:59
So I started this talk talking about the tush,
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μ €λŠ” 엉덩이에 κ΄€ν•œ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°λ‘œ μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:01
so I'll end with the bottom line, which is,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 마무리λ₯Ό ν•˜μžλ©΄ μ΄λ ‡μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:05
walk and talk.
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κ±·κ³ , λŒ€ν™”ν•˜μ„Έμš”.
03:07
Walk the talk.
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λŒ€ν™”λ‘œ κ±Έμ–΄λ³΄μ„Έμš”.(Walk the talk.)
03:08
You'll be surprised at how fresh air drives fresh thinking,
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ€ μ‹ μ„ ν•œ 곡기가 λΆˆμ–΄λ„£λŠ” μƒκ°μ˜ 신선함에 놀라싀 κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:12
and in the way that you do,
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그리고 κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ ν•¨μœΌλ‘œμ¨,
03:13
you'll bring into your life an entirely new set of ideas.
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ€ μžμ‹ μ˜ 삢을 μ™„μ „νžˆ μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ μƒκ°λ“€λ‘œμ±„μš°κ²Œ 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:17
Thank you.
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κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:19
(Applause)
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