Why we have too few women leaders | Sheryl Sandberg

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Svi mi u ovoj sobi danas,

So for any of us in this room today, let's start out by admitting we're lucky.

počnimo s priznanjem da smo sretni.

We don't live in the world our mothers lived in,

Ne živimo u svijetu

u kojem su naše majke živjele, u kojem su naše bake živjele,

our grandmothers lived in,

where career choices for women were so limited.

gdje su izbori karijere za žene bili toliko ograničeni.

And if you're in this room today,

I ako ste u ovoj sobi danas,

most of us grew up in a world where we have basic civil rights,

većina nas je odrasla u svijetu

u kojem smo imali osnovna građanska prava.

and amazingly, we still live in a world where some women don't have them.

I iznenađujuće, još uvijek živimo u svijetu

gdje ih neke žene nemaju.

But all that aside, we still have a problem,

Ali sve to na stranu, još uvijek imamo problem,

a to je stvarni problem.

and it's a real problem.

And the problem is this:

A problem je ovaj:

Women are not making it to the top of any profession

žene ne dolaze

na vrh bilo koje struke,

anywhere in the world.

igdje u svijetu.

The numbers tell the story quite clearly.

Brojke pričaju prilično jasnu priču.

190 heads of state -- nine are women.

190 čelnika država --

devet ih je žena.

Of all the people in parliament in the world,

Od svih ljudi u parlamentima u svijetu,

13 percent are women.

13 posto su žene.

U korporativnom sektoru,

In the corporate sector, women at the top,

žene na vrhu,

C-level jobs, board seats --

poslovi C-razine, mjesta u odborima --

tops out at 15, 16 percent.

su na najviše 15,16 posto.

The numbers have not moved since 2002

Te brojke se nisu pomaknule još od 2002.

i idu u krivom smjeru.

and are going in the wrong direction.

And even in the non-profit world,

I čak i u neprofitnom svijetu,

a world we sometimes think of as being led by more women,

svijetu za koji ponekad mislimo

kako je više vođen od strane žena,

women at the top: 20 percent.

žene na vrhu: 20 posto.

Ujedno imamo još jedan problem,

We also have another problem,

which is that women face harder choices

a to je da je pred ženama teži izbor

between professional success and personal fulfillment.

između profesionalnog uspjeha i osobnog ispunjenja.

A recent study in the U.S. showed that, of married senior managers,

Nedavno istraživanje u SAD-u

je pokazalo da, od oženjenih viših menadžera,

two-thirds of the married men had children

dvije trećine oženjenih muškaraca je imalo djece

and only one-third of the married women had children.

a samo jedna trećina udanih žena je imalo djecu.

A couple of years ago, I was in New York,

Prije par godina, bila sam u New Yorku,

and I was pitching a deal,

i pokušavala sam sklopiti posao,

and I was in one of those fancy New York private equity offices

i bila sam u jednom od onih otmjenih New Yorških ureda privatnog kapitala,

možete zamisliti.

you can picture.

I na sastanku sam -- sastanak traje oko tri sata --

And I'm in the meeting -- it's about a three-hour meeting --

and two hours in, there needs to be that bio break,

i nakon dva sata, potrebna je ona biološka stanka,

i svi ustanu,

and everyone stands up,

and the partner running the meeting starts looking really embarrassed.

i partner koji je vodio sastanak

počinje izgledati stvarno posramljeno.

And I realized he doesn't know where the women's room is in his office.

I shvatila sam kako ne zna

gdje se u njegovom uredu nalazi ženski zahod.

So I start looking around for moving boxes,

Stoga počnem gledati okolo, ne bih li opazila kutije za selidbu,

misleći kako su se tek doselili, ali ne vidim nijednu.

figuring they just moved in, but I don't see any.

And so I said, "Did you just move into this office?"

Rekla sam, "Jeste li se tek nedavno doselili u ovaj ured?"

I on kaže, "Ne, ovdje smo već oko jedne godine."

And he said, "No, we've been here about a year."

And I said, "Are you telling me that I am the only woman

A ja kažem, "Želite li mi reći

kako sam ja jedina žena

to have pitched a deal in this office in a year?"

koja je, u cijeloj godini, sklopila posao u ovom uredu?"

And he looked at me, and he said,

I on me pogledao, i rekao,

"Yeah. Or maybe you're the only one who had to go to the bathroom."

"Da. Ili ste možda jedina koja je trebala koristiti zahod."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

So the question is, how are we going to fix this?

Dakle, pitanje je,

kako ćemo to popraviti?

How do we change these numbers at the top?

Kako ćemo promijeniti te brojke na vrhu?

Kako da napravimo promjenu?

How do we make this different?

I want to start out by saying, I talk about this --

Želim započeti s time da kažem,

kako govorim o tome --

about keeping women in the workforce --

zadržavanjem žena u radnoj snazi --

because I really think that's the answer.

jer doista mislim kako je to odgovor.

In the high-income part of our workforce,

U dijelu radne snage s visokim dohotkom,

u dijelu u kojem ljudi završe na vrhu --

in the people who end up at the top --

Fortune 500 CEO jobs, or the equivalent in other industries --

Fortune 500 CEO poslovi,

ili ekvivalent u drugim industrijama --

the problem, I am convinced, is that women are dropping out.

problem, uvjerena sam,

jest da žene ispadaju.

Now people talk about this a lot,

Ljudi mnogo pričaju o tome,

and they talk about things like flextime and mentoring

i govore o stvarima kao što su fleksibilno vrijeme i mentorstvo

te programima koje bi poduzeća trebala imati za trening žena.

and programs companies should have to train women.

I want to talk about none of that today,

Ne želim o tome pričati danas --

even though that's all really important.

iako je to doista važno.

Today I want to focus on what we can do as individuals.

Danas se želim usredotočiti na ono što možemo učiniti kao pojedinci.

What are the messages we need to tell ourselves?

Koje poruke moramo sami sebi prenijeti?

What are the messages we tell the women that work with and for us?

Koje su poruke koje govorimo ženama koje rade s nama i za nas?

What are the messages we tell our daughters?

Koje poruke prenosimo svojim kćerima?

Now, at the outset, I want to be very clear

Sada na početku, želim biti vrlo jasna

kako ovaj govor ne dolazi s predrasudama.

that this speech comes with no judgments.

I don't have the right answer.

Nemam točan odgovor;

I don't even have it for myself.

nemam ga čak ni za sebe.

I left San Francisco, where I live, on Monday,

Napustila sam San Francisco, gdje živim, u ponedjeljak,

and I was getting on the plane for this conference.

i sjela sam na avion kako bih došla na ovu konferenciju.

I moja kćer, kojoj su tri godine, kada sam je ostavila u predškoli,

And my daughter, who's three, when I dropped her off at preschool,

grlila mi je nogu,

did that whole hugging-the-leg, crying, "Mommy, don't get on the plane" thing.

plakala, "Mama, nemoj ići na avion."

This is hard. I feel guilty sometimes.

To je teško. Ponekad se osjećam krivo.

I know no women,

Ne poznajem niti jednu ženu,

whether they're at home or whether they're in the workforce,

koja bilo da je kod kuće, ili da radi,

a koja se ponekad ne osjećaja tako.

who don't feel that sometimes.

So I'm not saying that staying in the workforce

Dakle, ne govorim kako je ostanak na poslu

is the right thing for everyone.

najbolja stvar za svakoga.

My talk today is about what the messages are

Moj govor danas je o tome koje su poruke

if you do want to stay in the workforce,

ako želite ostati raditi.

and I think there are three.

I mislim kako postoje tri.

One, sit at the table.

Prvo, sjednite za stol.

Two, make your partner a real partner.

Drugo, učinite svog partnera pravim partnerom.

And three, don't leave before you leave.

I treće -- pogledajte ovo -- nemojte otići prije nego odete.

Broj jedan: sjednite za stol.

Number one: sit at the table.

Prije par tjedana u Facebooku,

Just a couple weeks ago at Facebook,

we hosted a very senior government official,

ugostili smo visokog vladinog dužnosnika,

and he came in to meet with senior execs

koji se došao sastati s visokim izvršnim direktorima

iz Silikonske doline.

from around Silicon Valley.

And everyone kind of sat at the table.

I svi smo sjeli za stol.

He had these two women who were traveling with him

On je putovao s dvije žene

pretty senior in his department,

koje su bile prilično visoko u njegovom odjelu.

and I kind of said to them,

I rekla sam im, "Sjednite za stol. Dajte, sjednite za stol."

"Sit at the table. Come on, sit at the table,"

and they sat on the side of the room.

I sjele su na jednu stranu sobe.

When I was in college, my senior year,

Kada sam bila na zadnjoj godini na fakultetu,

I took a course called European Intellectual History.

uzela sam kolegij "Europska intelektualna povijest".

Don't you love that kind of thing from college?

Ne volite li takve stvari s fakulteta?!

I wish I could do that now.

Voljela bih da to mogu sada učiniti.

And I took it with my roommate, Carrie,

I uzela sam taj kolegij zajedno s mojom cimericom, Carrie,

who was then a brilliant literary student --

koja je tada bila briljantna studentica književnosti --

and went on to be a brilliant literary scholar --

i koja je krenula postati briljantna književna stipendistica --

i mojim bratom --

and my brother -- smart guy,

pametnim momkom, ali vaterpolistom koji je studirao medicinu,

but a water-polo-playing pre-med,

who was a sophomore.

a koji je bio na drugoj godini.

The three of us take this class together.

Nas troje je zajedno pohađalo taj kolegij.

And then Carrie reads all the books in the original Greek and Latin,

I Carrie čita sve knjige

na izvornom Grčkom i Latinskom --

odlazi na sva predavanja --

goes to all the lectures.

I read all the books in English

ja čitam sve knjige na Engleskom

and go to most of the lectures.

i odlazim na većinu predavanja.

My brother is kind of busy.

Moj brat je prezaposlen;

He reads one book of 12 and goes to a couple of lectures,

on pročita jednu knjigu od njih 12

i ode na par predavanja,

marches himself up to our room

dođe do naše sobe

par dana prije ispita kako bi ga poučile.

a couple days before the exam to get himself tutored.

Nas troje odemo na ispit zajedno, i sjednemo.

The three of us go to the exam together, and we sit down.

And we sit there for three hours --

I sjedimo tamo tri sata --

i naše male, plave bilježnice -- da, toliko sam stara.

and our little blue notebooks -- yes, I'm that old.

We walk out, we look at each other, and we say, "How did you do?"

I izađemo van, i pogledamo jedan drugoga, i pitamo, "Kako je prošlo?"

And Carrie says, "Boy, I feel like I didn't really draw out the main point

I Carrie kaže, "Čovječe, osjećam kako nisam pogodila glavnu bit

Hegelijanske dijalektike."

on the Hegelian dialectic."

And I say, "God, I really wish I had really connected

A ja kažem, "Bože, voljela bih da sam doista povezala

John Locke's theory of property with the philosophers that follow."

teoriju vlasništva Johna Lockea s filozofima koji su slijedili."

And my brother says,

A moj brat kaže,

"I got the top grade in the class."

"Dobio sam najbolju ocjenu u razredu."

(Laughter)

"You got the top grade in the class?

"Dobio si najbolju ocjenu u razredu?

You don't know anything."

Ti ne znaš ništa."

(Laughter)

The problem with these stories is that they show what the data shows:

Problem s ovim pričama

jest da pokazuju ono što podaci pokazuju:

women systematically underestimate their own abilities.

žene sustavno podcjenjuju svoje vlastite sposobnosti.

If you test men and women,

Kada bi testirali muškarce i žene,

and you ask them questions on totally objective criteria like GPAs,

i pitali ih pitanja o potpuno objektivnim kriterijima poput prosjeka ocjena,

men get it wrong slightly high,

muškarci pogriješe jer kažu malo previše,

and women get it wrong slightly low.

a žene pogriješe jer kažu malo premalo.

Women do not negotiate for themselves in the workforce.

Žene se ne znaju izboriti za sebe na poslu.

A study in the last two years

Istraživanje u posljednje dvije godine

of people entering the workforce out of college

ljudi koji stupaju u radni odnos s fakulteta

showed that 57 percent of boys entering, or men, I guess,

pokazuje kako 57% dečki koji dolaze --

ili muškaraca, pretpostavljam --

are negotiating their first salary,

pregovara o svojoj prvoj plaći,

and only seven percent of women.

s druge strane to isto čini samo 7% žena.

And most importantly,

I najvažnije,

men attribute their success to themselves,

muškarci pripisuju svoj uspjeh sebi,

and women attribute it to other external factors.

a žene ga pripisuju vanjskim čimbenicima.

If you ask men why they did a good job,

Kada pitate muškarce zašto su dobro odradili posao,

they'll say, "I'm awesome.

reći će, "Ja sam izvrstan.

Obviously. Why are you even asking?"

Očito. Zašto uopće pitaš?"

If you ask women why they did a good job,

Kada pitate žene zašto su dobro odradile posao,

what they'll say is someone helped them,

ono što će reći jest da im je netko pomogao,

they got lucky, they worked really hard.

da su imale sreće, da su radile doista naporno.

Why does this matter?

Zašto je to važno?

Boy, it matters a lot.

Čovječe, to je jako važno

Because no one gets to the corner office

jer nitko ne dobiva ured na čošku

by sitting on the side, not at the table,

ako sjedi postrani, a ne za stolom.

and no one gets the promotion

I nitko ne dobiva promaknuće

if they don't think they deserve their success,

ukoliko ne misle kako ne zaslužuju svoj uspjeh,

or they don't even understand their own success.

ili čak i ne shvaća svoj vlastiti uspjeh.

Željela bih da su odgovori lagani.

I wish the answer were easy.

I wish I could go tell all the young women I work for,

Željela bih da mogu otići i reći svim mladim ženama za koje radim,

svim tim izvanrednim ženama,

these fabulous women,

"Believe in yourself and negotiate for yourself.

"Vjerujte u sebe i pregovarajte za sebe.

Own your own success."

Posjedujte svoj vlastiti uspjeh."

I wish I could tell that to my daughter.

Željela bih da to mogu reći svojoj kćeri.

But it's not that simple.

Ali, to nije tako jednostavno.

Because what the data shows, above all else, is one thing,

Jer ono što podaci pokazuju, iznad svega, je jedna stvar,

which is that success and likeability are positively correlated for men

a to je da su uspjeh i pozitivan dojam

pozitivno korelirani za muškarce

and negatively correlated for women.

a negativno korelirani za žene.

And everyone's nodding, because we all know this to be true.

I svi klimaju glavom,

jer svi znamo kako je to istina.

There's a really good study that shows this really well.

Postoji jedno jako dobro istraživanje koje pokazuje to jako dobro.

There's a famous Harvard Business School study

Postoji poznata studija s poslovne škole Harvard

on a woman named Heidi Roizen.

provedena na ženi zvanoj Heidi Roizen.

And she's an operator in a company in Silicon Valley,

Ona je operater u poduzeću

u Silicijskoj dolini,

and she uses her contacts

i koristi svoje kontakte

to become a very successful venture capitalist.

kako bi postala jako uspješna venture capital poduzetnica.

In 2002 -- not so long ago --

2002. -- ne baš tako davno --

a professor who was then at Columbia University

profesor koji je tada bio na Sveučilištu Columbia

took that case and made it [Howard] Roizen.

je uzeo taj slušaj i pretvorio ga u Heidi Roizen.

And he gave the case out, both of them, to two groups of students.

I distribuirao je taj slučaj -- oba --

dvjema grupama studenata.

He changed exactly one word:

Promijenio je točno jednu riječ:

"Heidi" to "Howard."

Heidi s Howard.

But that one word made a really big difference.

Ali ta jedna riječ je učinila doista veliku razliku.

He then surveyed the students,

Zatim je ispitao studente.

and the good news was the students, both men and women,

I dobra vijest je kako su studenti, i muškarci i žene,

thought Heidi and Howard were equally competent,

mislili kako su Heidi i Howard jednako kompetentni,

and that's good.

i to je dobro.

The bad news was that everyone liked Howard.

Loša vijest je da su svi voljeli Howarda.

He's a great guy. You want to work for him.

On je odličan momak, želiš raditi za njega,

You want to spend the day fishing with him.

želiš provesti dan s njim u ribolovu.

A Heidi? Nisam baš siguran.

But Heidi? Not so sure.

She's a little out for herself. She's a little political.

Ona je previše ekstrovertirana za sebe. Ona je pomalo politički nastrojena.

You're not sure you'd want to work for her.

Niste sigurni bi li željeli raditi za nju.

This is the complication.

To je komplikacija.

We have to tell our daughters and our colleagues,

Moramo reći našoj kćeri i našim kolegama,

we have to tell ourselves to believe we got the A,

moramo reći same sebi kako moramo vjerovati da smo dobile peticu,

da posežemo za promaknućem,

to reach for the promotion, to sit at the table,

da sjedimo za stolom.

and we have to do it in a world

I moramo to učiniti u svijetu

where, for them, there are sacrifices they will make for that,

gdje, za njih, postoje žrtve koje će morati zbog toga učiniti,

even though for their brothers, there are not.

iako njihova braća neće morati.

The saddest thing about all of this is that it's really hard to remember this.

Najtužnija stvar u svemu ovome je što je zaista teško zapamtiti to.

And I'm about to tell a story which is truly embarrassing for me,

I ispričat ću vam priču, koje me doista sram,

but I think important.

ali mislim kako je važna.

I gave this talk at Facebook not so long ago

Održala sam ovaj govor u Facebooku ne tako davno

to about 100 employees,

pred oko stotinjak zaposlenika.

I par sati nakon toga, jedna mlada žena koja tamo radi

and a couple hours later, there was a young woman who works there

sjedila je izvan mog malog stola,

sitting outside my little desk, and she wanted to talk to me.

i željela je pričati sa mnom.

I said, okay, and she sat down, and we talked.

Rekla sam, okej, i sjela je, i pričale smo.

And she said, "I learned something today.

I rekla je, "Naučila sam nešto danas.

I learned that I need to keep my hand up."

Naučila sam da moram držati svoju ruku u zraku."

Ja kažem, "Što pod time misliš?"

"What do you mean?"

She said, "You're giving this talk,

Rekla je, "Pa, održali ste taj govor,

and you said you would take two more questions.

i rekli ste kako ćete odgovoriti na još dva pitanja.

I had my hand up with many other people,

I imala sam ruku u zraku poput mnogo drugih ljudi, i odgovorili ste na dva pitanja.

and you took two more questions.

I spustila sam svoju ruku te primjetila kako su sve žene spustile svoje ruke,

I put my hand down, and I noticed all the women did the same,

i onda ste uzeli još pitanja,

and then you took more questions,

ali samo od muškaraca."

only from the men."

I pomislila sam u sebi,

And I thought to myself,

"Wow, if it's me -- who cares about this, obviously --

vau, ako sam to ja -- koja toliko brine o tome, očito --

giving this talk --

držeći taj govor --

and during this talk, I can't even notice that the men's hands are still raised,

tijekom tog govora, ne mogu ni primjetiti

kako su ruke muškaraca još uvijek u zraku,

and the women's hands are still raised,

i da su ruke žena još uvijek u zraku,

how good are we

koliko dobro možemo

as managers of our companies and our organizations

kao menadžeri naših poduzeća i organizacija

at seeing that the men are reaching for opportunities

vidjeti da muškarci posežu za prilikama

more than women?"

više od žena?

We've got to get women to sit at the table.

Moramo navesti žene da sjede za stolom.

(Cheers)

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Poruka broj dva:

Message number two:

Make your partner a real partner.

učinite svog partnera stvarnim partnerom.

I've become convinced that we've made more progress in the workforce

Postala sam uvjerena kako smo napravili više napretka na poslu

than we have in the home.

nego kod kuće.

The data shows this very clearly.

Podaci to jako jasno prikazuju.

If a woman and a man work full-time and have a child,

Ako žena i muškarac rade puno radno vrijeme

i imaju dijete,

the woman does twice the amount of housework the man does,

žena radi dvostruku količinu kućanskih poslova nego muškarac,

and the woman does three times the amount of childcare the man does.

i žena vodi tri puta

više brige o djetetu nego muškarac.

So she's got three jobs or two jobs, and he's got one.

Dakle, ona ima tri posla, ili dva posla,

a on ima jedan.

Who do you think drops out when someone needs to be home more?

Što mislite tko izvuće kraći kraj kada netko mora biti više kod kuće.

Uzroci toga su doista komplicirani,

The causes of this are really complicated, and I don't have time to go into them.

i nemam vremena ulaziti u njih.

And I don't think Sunday football-watching and general laziness is the cause.

I ne smatram kako su nedjeljno gledanje utakmice

i opća lijenost uzroci.

I think the cause is more complicated.

Smatram kako je uzrok kompliciraniji.

Smatram da, kao društvo,

I think, as a society,

we put more pressure on our boys to succeed

stavljamo više pritiska na naše dječake da uspiju

than we do on our girls.

nego što stavljamo na djevojčice.

I know men that stay home

Poznajem muškarce koji ostaju kod kuće

and work in the home to support wives with careers,

i rade od doma kako bi podržali žene s karijerama.

A to je teško.

and it's hard.

When I go to the Mommy-and-Me stuff and I see the father there,

Kada odem u "Stvari za mamu i mene"

i vidim tamo oca,

I notice that the other mommies don't play with him.

primjetim kako se druge mame

ne igraju s njim.

And that's a problem,

A to je problem,

because we have to make it as important a job,

jer moramo to učiniti važnim poput posla --

because it's the hardest job in the world to work inside the home,

jer to je najteži posao na svijetu -- raditi u kući

for people of both genders,

za ljude obaju spolova,

if we're going to even things out and let women stay in the workforce.

ako želimo izjednačiti stvari i dopustiti ženama da ostanu na poslu.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Studies show that households with equal earning

Istraživanja pokazuju kako kućanstva s jednakim dohotkom

and equal responsibility

i jednakom odgovornošću

also have half the divorce rate.

imaju upola manje stope razvoda.

And if that wasn't good enough motivation for everyone out there,

I ako to nije dovoljno dobra motivacija za sve one tamo vani,

they also have more --

imaju više --

how shall I say this on this stage?

kako da to kažem na ovoj pozornici? --

They know each other more in the biblical sense as well.

u biblijskom smislu poznaju jedan drugoga bolje.

(Cheers)

(Živjeli)

Message number three:

Poruka broj tri:

Don't leave before you leave.

nemojte otići prije nego odete.

I think there's a really deep irony

Smatram kako je velika ironija

to the fact that actions women are taking --

činjenica da aktivnosti koje žene poduzimaju --

and I see this all the time --

i vidim to cijelo vrijeme --

with the objective of staying in the workforce

s ciljem da ostanu na poslu,

actually lead to their eventually leaving.

vode do njihovog eventualnog odlaska.

Here's what happens:

Evo što se događa:

We're all busy. Everyone's busy. A woman's busy.

svi smo mi zauzeti; svi su zauzeti; žena je zauzeta.

And she starts thinking about having a child,

I počinje razmišljati o tome da ima djecu.

and from the moment she starts thinking about having a child,

I u trenutku kada počinje razmišljati o tome da ima djete,

she starts thinking about making room for that child.

počinje razmišljati o izgradnji sobe za to dijete.

"Kako ću strpati to u sve ostalo čime se bavim?"

"How am I going to fit this into everything else I'm doing?"

And literally from that moment,

I doslovno, od tog trenutka,

ne diže više ruku u zrak,

she doesn't raise her hand anymore,

she doesn't look for a promotion, she doesn't take on the new project,

ne traži promaknuće, ne preuzima novi projekt na sebe,

she doesn't say, "Me. I want to do that."

ne govori, "Ja, želim napraviti to."

She starts leaning back.

Počinje se naginjati prema natrag.

The problem is that --

Problem je u tome što --

let's say she got pregnant that day, that day --

recimo da postane trudna taj dan, taj dan --

nine months of pregnancy, three months of maternity leave,

devet mjeseci trudnoće, tri mjeseca porodiljnog dopusta,

six months to catch your breath --

šest mjeseci kako bi nadoknadila sve --

Fast-forward two years,

brzo premotavanje unaprijed za dvije godine,

more often -- and as I've seen it --

vrlo često -- i kao što sam ja vidjela --

women start thinking about this way earlier --

žene počinju razmišljati o tome prerano --

when they get engaged, or married,

kada se zaruče, kada se udaju,

when they start thinking about having a child,

kada počinju razmišljati o pokušajima imanja djeteta, koje može uzeti dosta vremena.

which can take a long time.

Jedna žena je došla do mene zbog toga,

One woman came to see me about this.

i pogledala sam je -- i izgledala je malo premlado.

She looked a little young.

And I said, "So are you and your husband thinking about having a baby?"

I rekla sam, "Da li ti i tvoj muž razmišljate o djetetu?"

A ona kaže, "O ne, nisam udana."

And she said, "Oh no, I'm not married."

She didn't even have a boyfriend.

Nije čak imala ni dečka.

(Laughter)

I said, "You're thinking about this just way too early."

Rekla sam, "Razmišljaš o tome

malo prerano."

But the point is that what happens

Ali poanta je, što se dogodi

once you start kind of quietly leaning back?

jednom kada se počnete potiho naginjati unatrag?

Everyone who's been through this --

Svatko tko je prošao kroz to --

and I'm here to tell you, once you have a child at home,

i ovdje sam da vam kažem, jednom kada u kući imate dijete,

your job better be really good to go back,

vaš posao mora biti jako dobar kako bi se mogli vraćati,

because it's hard to leave that kid at home.

jer je teško ostaviti dijete kod kuće --

vaš posao mora biti izazovan.

Your job needs to be challenging.

Mora biti nagrađujući.

It needs to be rewarding.

You need to feel like you're making a difference.

Morate osjećati kao da činite razliku.

And if two years ago you didn't take a promotion

I ako prije dvije godine niste uzeli promaknuće

and some guy next to you did,

a neki momak do vas jest,

if three years ago you stopped looking for new opportunities,

ako ste prije tri godine

prestali tragati za novim prilikama,

you're going to be bored

postat će vam dosadno,

because you should have kept your foot on the gas pedal.

jer ste trebali držati svoju nogu na papučici gasa.

Don't leave before you leave.

Nemojte otići prije nego odete.

Stay in.

Ostanite.

Keep your foot on the gas pedal,

Zadržite nogu na papučici gasa,

until the very day you need to leave to take a break for a child --

sve do dana kada trebate otići

kako biste uzeli odmor za dijete --

and then make your decisions.

i tada donesite svoje odluke.

Nemojte donositi odluke previše unaprijed,

Don't make decisions too far in advance,

particularly ones you're not even conscious you're making.

posebno one o čijem donošenju niste ni svjesni.

My generation really, sadly,

Moja generacija, nažalost,

is not going to change the numbers at the top.

neće promijeniti brojke na vrhu.

They're just not moving.

Jednostavno se ne pomiču.

We are not going to get to where 50 percent of the population --

Nećemo stići tamo gdje je 50 posto populacije --

in my generation, there will not be 50 percent of [women]

u mojoj generaciji, neće biti 50 posto ljudi

at the top of any industry.

na čelu bilo koje industrije.

Ali nadam se da će buduće generacije biti.

But I'm hopeful that future generations can.

I think a world where half of our countries and our companies

Smatram kako bi svijet koji je vođen,

gdje bi pola naših država i pola naših poduzeća

bilo vođeno od strane žena, bio bolji svijet.

were run by women, would be a better world.

It's not just because people would know where the women's bathrooms are,

I ne samo jer bi ljudi znali gdje se nalaze ženski zahodi,

iako bi to bilo vrlo korisno.

even though that would be very helpful.

I think it would be a better world.

Smatram kako bi bio bolji svijet.

Imam dvoje djece.

I have two children.

I have a five-year-old son and a two-year-old daughter.

Imam sina od pet godina i kćer od dvije godine.

I want my son to have a choice

Želim da moj sin ima izbor

to contribute fully in the workforce or at home,

da potpuno pridonosi na poslu ili kod kuće,

and I want my daughter to have the choice to not just succeed,

i želim da moja kćer ima izbor

ne samo premašiti,

but to be liked for her accomplishments.

već i biti voljena zbog svojih postignuća.

Hvala vam.

Thank you.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)