English Conversation Listening Practice - British English Podcast (With Level Up English)

Okay, so today I've got Michael here from Level Up English.

Okay, så i dag har jeg Michael her fra Level Up English.

Hi Michael, how are you today?

Hej Michael, hvordan har du det i dag?

Hello.

Thank you for having me.

Hej.

Tak fordi jeg måtte komme.

I'm very good.

Jeg er meget god.

Good to see you.

If I said to you, how are you?

Godt at se dig.

Hvis jeg sagde til dig, hvordan har du det?

And you turned around and said, "well, actually, I'm having a terrible

Og du vendte dig om og sagde, "jamen, faktisk, jeg har en frygtelig

day", it is not the done thing is?

dag", er det ikke det færdige?

I think in general, unless you are really, really close to someone.

Jeg tror generelt, medmindre du er virkelig, virkelig tæt på nogen.

Uh, when you say, "how are you?"

Øh, når du siger, "hvordan har du det?"

You're just looking for a very quick "Yes, I'm fine.

Du leder bare efter et meget hurtigt "Ja, jeg har det fint.

Thank you.

Tak.

Let's carry on".

Lad os fortsætte".

It's like an icebreaker or an introduction to your conversation,

Det er som en isbryder eller en introduktion til din samtale,

but genuinely Michael, how are you?

men helt ærligt Michael, hvordan har du det?

Well, I'm a bit cold.

Nå, jeg er lidt kold.

I've got painful knees, you know.

Jeg har ondt i knæ, du ved.

What happened to your knees?

Hvad skete der med dine knæ?

They're always bad.

I did a long walk yesterday, um, for a few hours.

De er altid dårlige.

Jeg gik en lang tur i går i et par timer.

Sitting down too much, walking too much, not having a balance of each...

At sidde for meget ned, gå for meget, ikke have en balance mellem hver...

Right.

Okay.

...I think isn't good for your joints, is it?

Okay.

Okay. ...jeg tror ikke det er godt for dine led, vel?

Yeah.

I find when I'm static.

Ja. Jeg finder, når jeg er statisk.

Static's a nice way to describe being very still.

Static er en god måde at beskrive at være meget stille på.

When I'm static, so if I have a day in the office just sat at my desk,

Når jeg er statisk, så hvis jeg har en dag på kontoret bare sad ved mit skrivebord,

I have to actually stand up quite a few times because I start to feel

er jeg faktisk nødt til at stå op en del gange, fordi jeg begynder at føle,

like my knees hurt, my hips, my back,

at mine knæ gør ondt, mine hofter, min ryg,

I feel like an old lady.

har jeg lyst til en gammel dame.

Is walking something that you do often?

Er det at gå noget, du ofte gør?

It is, yeah.

Det er det, ja.

I mean I try...

Jeg mener, jeg prøver...

I successfully try, I would say, to do it every day, go for at least a...

Jeg prøver med held, vil jeg sige, at gøre det hver dag, gå mindst en...

you know, half an hour walk if I can.

du ved, en halv times gåtur, hvis jeg kan.

It's something I really enjoy.

Det er noget, jeg virkelig nyder.

I mean, there's nothing I enjoy more really than putting in a podcast,

Jeg mener, der er ikke noget, jeg nyder virkelig mere end at indsætte en podcast,

going through a walk, rain or shine.

gå en tur, regne eller solskin.

It might just be the same route I've done a thousand times, or it might be

Det kan bare være den samme rute, som jeg har kørt tusind gange, eller det kan være

somewhere new I haven't been before.

et nyt sted, jeg ikke har været før.

You said come rain or shine.

Du sagde kom regn eller solskin.

That's a nice little phrase, isn't it?

Det er en fin lille sætning, ikke?

Yeah.

Ja.

It's like whether it's raining or it's sunny, doesn't matter to me.

Det er ligesom om det regner eller er solskin, det er lige meget for mig.

I'll go out.

Jeg går ud.

So do you have all the kit then?

Så har du alt sættet?

All the gear?

Alt gearet?

I've got like a nice winter coat that keeps me warm, but it's not waterproof,

Jeg har ligesom en dejlig vinterfrakke, der holder mig varm, men den er ikke vandtæt,

so I might come back a bit soggy and wet, but I dry my clothes out and

så jeg kommer måske tilbage lidt blød og våd, men jeg tørrer mit tøj ud, og

I find actually the discomfort of walking in the rain makes arriving

jeg oplever faktisk, at ubehaget ved at gå i regnen gør, at jeg kommer

home more enjoyable, you know?

hjem . sjovere, ved du?

So we'd probably call this hiking, right?

Så vi ville nok kalde det for vandreture, ikke?

If you're going for a long walk, maybe over surfaces that aren't level, so it

Hvis du går en lang tur, måske over overflader, der ikke er jævne, så det

might not be an actual purpose-built path, but you're walking in the countryside

er måske ikke en egentlig specialbygget sti, men du går på landet

or in the hills, in the mountains.

eller i bakkerne, i bjergene.

This would be hiking.

Dette ville være vandretur.

Really?

Mm-hmm.

Wouldn't it?

Virkelig?

Mm-hmm. Ville det ikke?

Mm-hmm yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm ja.

Ja.

And I think having a good pair of shoes is really important

Og jeg tror, ​​at det er rigtig vigtigt at have et par gode sko,

if you are into your hiking.

hvis du er til din vandretur.

So tell me, you've got some good walking shoes.

Så fortæl mig, du har nogle gode vandresko.

No!?

Ingen!?

Well, I'm kind of a minimalist, so I only have one pair of shoes at a time, and the

Nå, jeg er lidt minimalist, så jeg har kun ét par sko ad gangen, og den

one I have now, the pair I have now, I didn't realise until after I bought them,

jeg har nu, det par jeg har nu, var jeg først klar over, efter jeg købte dem,

but they're not good for wet weather...

men de er ikke godt til vådt vejr...

Right.

...like even if it's just like a wet field with like grass, my feet will be soaked.

Okay. ...som selvom det bare er som en våd mark med ligesom græs, så vil mine fødder være gennemblødte.

Oh, I've kind of got used to it.

Åh, jeg har lidt vænnet mig til det.

In fact, there's a video on my YouTube channel where I was walking on Dartmoor,

Faktisk er der en video på min YouTube-kanal, hvor jeg gik på Dartmoor,

like a national park here in the UK and, I was like filming and I jumped

som en nationalpark her i Storbritannien, og jeg var ligesom at filme, og jeg hoppede

across a little stream and I thought it was flat ground, but it was like a bog.

over en lille strøm, og jeg troede, det var fladt, men det var ligesom en mose.

So it was very, very soft mossy ground, saturated with water.

Så det var meget, meget blød mosbevokset jord, mættet med vand.

It looked stable, but it wasn't.

Det så stabilt ud, men det var det ikke.

So I ended up like up to my knees in water.

Så jeg endte ligesom op til knæene i vand.

Oh no.

Åh nej.

Um, walking boots.

Um, vandrestøvler.

Wouldn't have saved me then anyway.

Så ville jeg alligevel ikke have reddet mig.

No.

Nej.

Well, I've done some hiking in the Dolomites in Italy.

Nå, jeg har taget nogle vandreture i Dolomitterne i Italien.

Mm-hmm.

Nice.

Mm-hmm.

Pæn.

And we did, um, I think we did six weeks out in Argentina

Og det gjorde vi, øhm, jeg tror, ​​vi var seks uger ude i Argentina

and, and went to Patagonia.

og tog til Patagonien.

So I think having decent shoes, good socks, uh, you know, and a

Så jeg synes at have ordentlige sko, gode sokker, øh, du ved, og en

windproof jacket if nothing else.

vindtæt jakke om ikke andet.

Yeah.

Did you have the crampons, like the spiked shoes to go on the ice?

Ja.

Havde du stegjernene, som de pigsko til at gå på isen?

Did you have that?

Havde du det?

No.

No.

Nej.

Nej.

So we..., this is one of the stories I often tell, my dangerous adventure story.

Så vi..., dette er en af ​​de historier, jeg ofte fortæller, min farlige eventyrhistorie.

So we were out in the Dolomites and there was one walk called Punta Ana.

Så vi var ude i Dolomitterne, og der var en tur, der hed Punta Ana.

And this is actually via ferrata.

Og det er faktisk via ferrata.

Mm.

Mm.

So via ferrata is where you are walking up a mountain, and it's not like, it's not

Så via ferrata er der, hvor du går op ad et bjerg, og det er ikke sådan, det er ikke

mountain climbing, so you're not climbing up a rock face, although sometimes on a

bjergbestigning, så du klatrer ikke op ad en klippeflade, selvom

via ferrata you might have to, but it's generally walking on a mountain path,

du nogle gange på en via ferrata måske skal, men det er generelt at gå på en bjergsti,

but it could be a little bit treacherous.

men det kunne være en lille smule forræderisk.

And so there is a metal bar that's like a handrail that you have to clip onto

Og så er der en metalstang, der er som et gelænder, som du skal klippe på,

that goes all the way along the walks.

der går hele vejen langs gåturene.

So there's one called Punta Ana, and it was in what we call the shoulder season,

Så der er en, der hedder Punta Ana, og det var i det, vi kalder skuldersæsonen,

which is when it's not quite the high season, when it's nice and warm, and it's

som er, når det ikke er helt højsæsonen, når det er dejligt varmt, og det er

not the down season, the cold season.

ikke nedsæsonen, den kolde årstid.

So there was snow on the top of the mountains, but it was lovely and

Så der var sne på toppen af ​​bjergene, men det var dejligt og

sunny at the bottom, you know, so we weren't really prepared for the snow.

solrigt i bunden, så vi var ikke rigtig forberedt på sneen.

We set off late and we didn't have crampons, but we did have a rope...

Vi kom sent afsted, og vi havde ikke stegjern, men vi havde et reb...

Important!

Vigtigt!

And we came to one bit that was like a saddleback, so it was like

Og vi kom til et stykke, der var som en sadelryg, så det var ligesom

between two like hilly sections.

mellem to som bakkede sektioner.

There was this just ridge that you had to walk across, which I'm sure

Der var denne lige højderyg, som man skulle gå over, som jeg er sikker på, at

in the dry weather would've been fine, but with it covered in snow...

i det tørre vejr ville have været fint, men med den dækket af sne...

and it's a sheer drop on either side of the saddleback.

og det er et rent fald på hver side af saddelryggen.

So you're walking across this ridge that's covered in snow and I was

Så du går over denne højderyg, der er dækket af sne, og jeg syntes

like, this is just so dangerous.

, det her er bare så farligt.

One slip and it's sudden death.

En slip og det er pludselig død.

This is no messing around.

Det her er ikke noget rod.

This is death.

Dette er døden.

So we used the rope that we had to go over the rope that was supposed

Så vi brugte rebet, som vi skulle over rebet, der skulle

to be for the via ferrata, but that was very high above our heads.

være til via ferrata, men det var meget højt over vores hoveder.

So we, we looped this rope over, tied one side around my partner,

Så vi, vi sløjfede det her reb over, bandt den ene side om min partner,

one side around me, and we said, if you fall, the other person has to

den ene side omkring mig, og vi sagde, hvis du falder, skal den anden person hoppe

jump off the other side to balance.

fra den anden side for at balancere.

And then we, we, you know, very carefully walked across this saddleback,

Og så gik vi, vi, du ved, meget forsigtigt hen over denne sadelryg,

but what we realised was, you know, we weren't gonna turn back now.

men hvad vi indså var, du ved, vi ville ikke vende tilbage nu.

This was getting serious.

Det her var ved at blive alvorligt.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

And then we had a sheer rock face in front of us, a vertical rock face

Og så havde vi en ren og skær klippeflade foran os, en lodret klippeflade

that we had to properly climb up.

, som vi skulle ordentligt klatre op.

Again we only had walking boots on, which was a mistake because our

Igen havde vi kun gåstøvler på, hvilket var en fejl, fordi vores

feet kept slipping off the rocks.

fødder blev ved med at glide af klipperne.

It was awful.

Det var forfærdeligt.

Again, we knew at this point we can't come back now.

Igen vidste vi på dette tidspunkt, at vi ikke kan komme tilbage nu.

We can't come back.

Vi kan ikke komme tilbage.

That's the scary part.

Det er den skræmmende del.

We were halfway up and we realised we were making bad time.

Vi var halvvejs oppe, og vi indså, at vi havde dårlig tid.

The last cable car from the top of the mountain was gonna go really

Den sidste svævebane fra toppen af ​​bjerget skulle gå meget

soon, and that was it for the season.

snart, og det var det for sæsonen.

That was gonna be the last cable car for the season, and we were too far

Det skulle være den sidste svævebane for sæsonen, og vi var for langt

behind, so we started shouting out.

bagud, så vi begyndte at råbe op.

We could see there was some people far in the distance.

Vi kunne se, at der var nogle mennesker langt i det fjerne.

Shouting out, saying, please, we're here.

Råber ud og siger, venligst, vi er her.

Don't go without us.

Gå ikke uden os.

Anyway, long story short.

Anyway, lang historie kort.

We made it, we were exhausted.

Vi klarede det, vi var udmattede.

We made it just in time.

Vi klarede det lige i tide.

They were holding the cable car for us and they said, you know..

De holdt svævebanen for os, og de sagde, du ved...

Wow!

Wow!

"...we, we were about to pull out the mattresses at the station for you

"...vi, vi var ved at trække madrasserne ud på stationen, så du

to spend the night up here, but you would've had to hike out the next day."

kunne overnatte heroppe, men du ville have været nødt til at vandre ud næste dag."

And I, and we would had no food.

Og jeg, og vi ville ikke have noget mad.

You know, it was just, it was a very dangerous situation.

Du ved, det var bare, det var en meget farlig situation.

Have you ever had anything like that?

Har du nogensinde haft sådan noget?

Yeah.

Your story is terrifying.

Ja. Din historie er skræmmende.

I'm really glad you made it...

Jeg er virkelig glad for, at du klarede det...

made it back okay.

kom tilbage i orden.

But yeah, like, I guess I must have been about like 15 or something and my dad

Men ja, sådan må jeg have været omkring 15 eller noget, og min far

took me on a via ferrata in the Alps.

tog mig med på en via ferrata i Alperne.

Okay.

And I didn't really know what it was.

Okay.

Og jeg vidste ikke rigtig, hvad det var.

I kind of trusted my dad, like, yeah, it'll be fine.

Jeg stolede lidt på min far, som, ja, det bliver fint.

And it kind of starts out climbing a ladder.

Og det starter sådan set med at klatre op ad en stige.

It's not too bad.

Det er ikke så slemt.

You have to have yourself hooked in with your harness and your...

Du skal have dig selv hægtet ind i din sele og dine...

your ropes.

So it's not really possible to fall.

dine reb.

Så det er ikke rigtig muligt at falde.

Although I kind of always think, why are we trusting these metal poles?

Selvom jeg sådan set altid tænker, hvorfor stoler vi på disse metalstænger?

Like, you know, everything breaks one day.

Som du ved, alt går i stykker en dag.

How do we know it's not gonna be today...

Hvordan ved vi, at det ikke bliver i dag...

Um, but then as we ascended, it turned more and more into a cliff.

Øh, men da vi steg op, blev det mere og mere til en klippe.

And I think, as you said before, it was like a cliff.

Og jeg tror, ​​som du sagde før, det var som en klippe.

It was just vertical and it was, you know, just like ladders and

Det var bare lodret, og det var, du ved, ligesom stiger og

metal things you had to hold onto.

metalting, du skulle holde fast i.

So it was like proper climbing, but it was safe.

Så det var ligesom ordentlig klatring, men det var sikkert.

Yeah.

And it was, you know, good holds to hold onto, but looking

Ja.

Og det var, du ved, gode greb at holde fast i, men at se

below me and just seeing...

under mig og bare se...

for me in my, you know, younger mind, it felt like hundreds of feet below me.

for mig i mit, du ved, yngre sind, føltes det som hundredvis af fod under mig.

I don't know how much it really was, but it was just terrifying.

Jeg ved ikke, hvor meget det egentlig var, men det var bare skræmmende.

And we didn't...

We made it to the top, but if you look back on the photos of that day,

Og

det gjorde vi ikke... Vi nåede toppen, men hvis du ser tilbage på billederne fra den dag,

you can see like my face is just grumpy for the whole day after that.

kan du se, at mit ansigt bare er gnaven hele dagen efter det.

I was in such a bad mood.

Jeg var i så dårligt humør.

I think I'd just been traumatised, you know.

Jeg tror, ​​jeg lige var blevet traumatiseret, du ved.

What worries me about the via ferrata is you have to have a special

Det, der bekymrer mig ved via ferrataen, er, at du skal have en speciel

harness thing to hook on with.

sele ting at hænge på med.

So you have your harness...

Så du har din sele...

...which is what you wear, and then you would normally, with climbing,

...som er, hvad du har på, og så ville du normalt, med klatring,

you'd have a rope and some carabiners, which are the connecting metal loops.

have et reb og nogle karabinhager, som er de forbindende metalløkker.

That's right, isn't it?

Carabiners?

Det er rigtigt, ikke?

Karabinhager?

Yeah.

Ja.

When you do via ferrata, you have a special, I think it's called a tether,

Når du gør via ferrata, har du en speciel, jeg tror, ​​den kaldes en tøjring,

um, a special tether that is all bunched up into a short, what feels

øhm, en speciel tøjring, der er samlet i en kort, hvad der føles

like a short rope or a short lead, and to connect from your harness through

som et kort reb eller en kort ledning, og at forbinde fra din sele gennem

to your carabiner that you hook on.

til din karabinhage, som du hægter på.

So it feels short.

Så det føles kort.

But then what would happen is if you fell this tether tears and it

Men det, der så ville ske, er, hvis du faldt denne tøjretårer, og den

releases quite a long stretch of like, I don't know, 10 metres or something.

frigiver en ret lang strækning på, jeg ved det ikke, 10 meter eller noget.

It's quite a long stretch.

Det er et ret langt stræk.

Mm.

Okay.

So it's all bunched up inside this tether.

Mm. Okay.

Så det hele er samlet inde i denne tøjring.

It tears open if you fall.

Det river op, hvis du falder.

And the idea is that it, it's taking some of the momentum out of your fall

Og tanken er, at det, det tager noget af momentum ud af dit fald,

as it's tearing, it's slowing your fall down because if you were to just...

mens det rives i stykker, det bremser dit fald, for hvis du bare skulle...

you need space.

har du brug for plads.

But if you were to fall and you had a lot of rope, you could get tangled up in it.

Men hvis du skulle falde, og du havde meget reb, kunne du blive viklet ind i det.

And also the momentum, by the time you hit the end of the rope, the momentum

Og også momentum, når du rammer enden af ​​rebet,

would be so hard, you'd break your back...

ville momentum være så hårdt, at du ville brække ryggen...

mm-hmm.

mm-hmm.

or some bones from your harness.

eller nogle knogler fra din sele.

It would just be too much impact.

Det ville bare være for meget påvirkning.

So it has to slow your descent.

Så det skal bremse din nedstigning.

So that's when you have this tearing...

Så det er, når du har denne rivning...

interesting

interessant

...to release the rope inside this tether.

... at frigøre rebet inde i denne tøjring.

Which means if you have a fall and you tear it, it's used, you can't

Hvilket betyder, at hvis du falder, og du river det i stykker, er det brugt, du kan ikke

restitch it, so it's, it's done.

sy det igen, så det er, det er gjort.

So you have your fall, you use your tether, and it's like releasing

Så du har dit fald, du bruger din tøjring, og det er som at slippe

your parachute, but then you need to get back in the plane and carry

din faldskærm, men så skal du tilbage i flyet og fortsætte

on and jump out the plane again.

og hoppe ud af flyet igen.

You'd be unlucky to fall twice though, wouldn't you?

Du ville dog være uheldig at falde to gange, ville du ikke?

Well, so, but if you...

Nå, så, men hvis du...

imagine you're, you're tired and the weather's bad.

forestiller dig, at du er det, er du træt og vejret er dårligt.

Yeah.

You're halfway up a mountain or halfway through a via ferreta and

Ja. Du er halvvejs oppe på et bjerg eller halvvejs gennem en via ferreta, og

you fall, your tether's done, spent.

du falder, din tøjring er færdig, brugt.

Then you have to climb yourself back onto the..., you know, you

Så må du klatre tilbage på..., du ved, du

might be hanging from an overhang.

hænger måske i et udhæng.

Somehow you have to get back onto the mountain, back onto the

På en eller anden måde skal du tilbage op på bjerget, tilbage på stien

path, and then, and then you...

, og så, og så...

what do you do then?

hvad gør du så?

You've got no safety rope, not really, not a, not a genuine one that's gonna actually

Du har intet sikkerhedsreb, ikke rigtigt, ikke et, ikke et ægte reb, der rent faktisk vil

work for you, to get you either all the way there or all the way back, you know?

fungere for dig, for at få dig enten hele vejen dertil eller hele vejen tilbage, ved du?

Mm-hmm.

That's always what bothered me when we were doing these very long, quite

Mm-hmm.

Det er altid det, der generede mig, når vi lavede disse meget lange, ret

arduous hikes, is that potentially, if I have one fall in the middle, then...

besværlige vandreture, er, at potentielt, hvis jeg har et fald i midten, så...

I'll, I'll be without any real safety afterwards.

vil jeg, jeg vil være uden nogen reel sikkerhed bagefter.

Yeah.

I feel like that's a difference between us and the pros, right?

Ja. Jeg føler, at det er en forskel mellem os og de professionelle, ikke?

The pros seem to not, the professionals, they don't, they

Det lader til, at de professionelle ikke, de professionelle, det gør de ikke, de

don't think about this almost.

tænker næsten ikke over det her.

It's like they, they take precautions, but the idea of failing

Det er ligesom de, de tager forholdsregler, men tanken om at fejle

isn't even an option for them.

er ikke engang en mulighed for dem.

Like if you've seen people do free soloing where they climb cliffs

Som hvis du har set folk lave fri solo, hvor de klatrer op ad klipper

without any rope or safety equipment.

uden reb eller sikkerhedsudstyr.

Like I guess, I imagine they just don't have the concept of failing.

Som jeg gætter på, forestiller jeg mig, at de bare ikke har konceptet om at fejle.

Like it's not even in their mind.

Som om det ikke engang er i deres sind.

'cause if it were, probably it's more likely to happen.

For hvis det var, er det sandsynligvis mere sandsynligt, at det sker.

I guess that's how it works.

Det er vel sådan det virker.

Things like gymnastics and, and climbing as well, but with

Ting som gymnastik og klatring også, men med

gymnastics it's like 95% mental.

gymnastik er det ligesom 95% mentalt.

Like what you are thinking is what's going to happen.

Ligesom det du tænker er, hvad der kommer til at ske.

So you have to get your mind in the right place and not think about falling.

Så du skal få tankerne på det rigtige sted og ikke tænke på at falde.

If you think about it, if you visualise it, it will more likely happen.

Hvis du tænker over det, hvis du visualiserer det, vil det mere sandsynligt ske.

Mm-hmm.

And if you are scared, you hold back and you tense up in a way that will cause

Mm-hmm.

Og hvis du er bange, holder du dig tilbage, og du spænder op på en måde, der får

the incident or the accident to happen.

hændelsen eller ulykken til at ske.

Fear is an obstacle to overcome, but at the same time, it is there to protect us.

Frygt er en hindring at overvinde, men samtidig er den der for at beskytte os.

So it's, it's..., I guess there's a balance of appropriate

Så det er, det er..., der er vel en balance mellem passende

levels of fear, isn't there?

niveauer af frygt, ikke?

But I guess I can relate to that.

Men det kan jeg vist godt relatere til.

Like I'm a big fan of, I dunno what you'd call it, it's a bit like scrambling.

Ligesom jeg er stor fan af, ved jeg ikke, hvad du vil kalde det, det er lidt som at scrambling.

It's not climbing.

Det er ikke klatring.

I'm not a fan of that after my traumatic childhood, but more like, um,

Det er jeg ikke fan af efter min traumatiske barndom, men mere som, øhh,

... It's where you use your hands and feet, isn't it?

... Det er der, du bruger dine hænder og fødder, er det ikke?

it's where you use your hands and feet to climb up like rocky terrain.

det er her, du bruger dine hænder og fødder til at klatre op som stenet terræn.

I feel like it's like parkour in the countryside.

Jeg føler, at det er ligesom parkour på landet.

Like I love kind of jumping over rocks, jumping over rivers and stuff like that.

Ligesom jeg elsker at hoppe over sten, hoppe over floder og sådan noget.

I think I'm quite good on my feet in that sense.

Jeg synes, jeg er ret godt på benene i den forstand.

But as soon as you start to think about how it could go wrong, then you mess up.

Men så snart du begynder at tænke på, hvordan det kunne gå galt, så roder du.

Yeah.

Like imagine you're jumping over a stream.

Ja. Forestil dig, at du hopper over et vandløb.

It's quite a big stream, a wide stream.

Det er et ret stort vandløb, et bredt vandløb.

If you think about like, oh, it's too big, it's...

Hvis du tænker på, åh, det er for stort, det er...

I can't do it, then you're gonna fall in.

Jeg kan ikke gøre det, så falder du i.

But if you just focus on the other side and you just go for it, then

Men hvis du bare fokuserer på den anden side, og du bare går efter det,

you'll almost definitely do it.

så vil næsten helt sikkert gøre det.

So it is very mental.

Så det er meget mentalt.

Many things are.

Mange ting er.

I always think if you were able to live for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

Jeg tænker altid, hvis du var i stand til at leve i hundreder og hundreder og hundreder af

years, would we just end up being bored?

år, ville vi så bare ende med at kede os?

Would we exhaust all the options of, you know, adrenaline sports?

Ville vi udtømme alle mulighederne for adrenalinsport?

Would nothing excite us anymore?

Ville intet begejstre os længere?

Well, a counter-argument to that,

Tja, et modargument til det,

it depends what you mean by living, how, how we would live for that

det afhænger af, hvad du mener med at leve, hvordan, hvordan vi ville leve så længe

long, because, and really interesting thing I like to think about is, say

, ​​fordi, og virkelig interessant ting, jeg kan lide at tænke på, er,

if we discovered through medicine, like how to, how to live for

hvis vi opdagede gennem medicin, som hvordan man , hvordan man lever i

a thousand years, I think we'd be the most risk averse species.

tusind år, tror jeg, vi ville være den mest risikovillige art.

You know, we, we wouldn't do anything risky because let's say

Du ved, vi, vi ville ikke gøre noget risikabelt, for lad os sige, at

you are like I dunno, 40 years old, and you sadly pass away doing

du er som jeg ved det ikke, 40 år gammel, og du desværre går bort og laver

something dangerous, it's very sad.

noget farligt, det er meget trist.

But I guess you're like middle-aged then, aren't you?

Men du er vel så midaldrende, ikke?

You, you can...

Yes, I am middle-aged Michael

Du, du kan...

Ja, jeg er midaldrende Michael

Oh, I'm so sorry.

I don't know your age, I promise.

Åh, jeg er så ked af det.

Jeg ved ikke din alder, det lover jeg.

I'm 41.

Jeg er 41.

I'm 41.

Jeg er 41.

You don't look it.

Du ser det ikke ud.

You look very, very young.

Du ser meget, meget ung ud.

Look younger than me and I'm...

Se yngre ud end mig, og jeg er...

it's okay.

det er okay.

I'm only playing with you.

Jeg leger kun med dig.

I don't mind.

Jeg gider ikke.

Oh, you've made me, um feel awkward now.

Åh, du har fået mig til at føle mig akavet nu.

No, it's okay.

Nej, det er okay.

But I get what you mean.

It's, it's relative, right?

Men jeg forstår hvad du mener.

Det er, det er relativt, ikke?

You feel like you've, you've lived half your life.

Du føler, at du har, du har levet halvdelen af ​​dit liv.

If I were to die tomorrow, it wouldn't be as sad as if I died when I was 15

Hvis jeg skulle dø i morgen, ville det ikke være så trist, som hvis jeg døde, da jeg var 15,

because there's less life ahead of me now than there was when I was a teenager.

fordi der er mindre liv foran mig nu, end der var, da jeg var teenager.

Yes.

And if you were to live to a thousand, if that were possible when you

Ja.

Og hvis du skulle leve til tusind, hvis det var muligt, da du

died at 40 or even 80, that would be a huge tragedy because you're

døde som 40-årig eller endda 80, ville det være en kæmpe tragedie, fordi du går

missing out on most of your life.

glip af det meste af dit liv.

Yeah.

Ja.

So I feel like people wouldn't do as much if we lived for that long, you know?

Så jeg føler, at folk ikke ville gøre så meget, hvis vi levede så længe, ​​ved du?

Yeah.

We'd be much more cautious, I imagine.

Ja. Vi ville være meget mere forsigtige, forestiller jeg mig.

Yeah.

And maybe we'd work harder on our relationships.

Ja.

Og måske ville vi arbejde hårdere på vores forhold.

And it's interesting to think how, what we would do for careers.

Og det er interessant at tænke på, hvordan, hvad vi ville gøre for karrierer.

Would we actually change careers many times and try out many different things?

Ville vi faktisk skifte karriere mange gange og prøve mange forskellige ting?

It would certainly give us more options, wouldn't it?

Det ville helt sikkert give os flere muligheder, ikke?

Uh, yeah.

Øh, ja.

I wonder because there's a lot of projects that people have

Jeg undrer mig, fordi der er mange projekter, som folk har

started before that they...

startet før, som de...

I think about big cathedrals and things and space programs that they

Jeg tænker på store katedraler og ting og rumprogrammer, som de

know they're not gonna see the end of which is always really amazing

ved, at de ikke vil se slutningen, hvilket altid er fantastisk,

that people can commit themselves to doing part of a project in their life.

at folk kan forpligte sig til at lave en del af et projekt i deres liv.

But I imagine there'd be a lot more people doing important stuff

Men jeg forestiller mig, at der ville være mange flere mennesker, der laver vigtige ting

like, "okay, I'm gonna dedicate my life to curing this disease.

som, "okay, jeg vil dedikere mit liv til at helbrede denne sygdom.

(it) Might take me 500 years, but it's doable".

(det) kan tage mig 500 år, men det kan lade sig gøre".

I wonder how, um, how we'd look if we lived to a thousand.

Jeg spekulerer på, hvordan, øh, hvordan vi ville se ud, hvis vi levede til tusind.

You see some people who...

Du ser nogle mennesker, der...

who do manage to make it to a hundred, but our bodies aren't really built...

som formår at nå et hundrede, men vores kroppe er ikke rigtig bygget...

really for, for surviving that long.

virkelig til at overleve så længe.

It is interesting when you touch, we touch on longevity and things.

Det er interessant, når du rører ved, vi rører ved levetid og ting.

I actually follow, a chap called David Sinclair, he's someone

Jeg følger faktisk en fyr ved navn David Sinclair, han er en

who I've mentioned a lot.

, som jeg har nævnt meget.

Yeah.

And we actually adjust our lifestyle to, to kind of follow some of the things

Ja.

Og vi tilpasser faktisk vores livsstil til på en måde at følge nogle af de ting,

that he teaches to help you to live a longer life because I really would

som han lærer for at hjælpe dig til at leve et længere liv, fordi jeg virkelig gerne vil

like to live for a very long time.

leve i meget lang tid.

I certainly want to live till I'm a hundred.

Jeg vil bestemt leve til jeg er hundrede.

I don't know if I'll get there, but..., even if I make it to 80,

Jeg ved ikke, om jeg når dertil, men... selvom jeg når 80,

I want to make sure that I'm as healthy as I can be until that age.

vil jeg gerne sikre mig, at jeg er så sund, som jeg kan være indtil den alder.

That's the key, isn't it?

Det er nøglen, ikke?

Yeah.

I don't wanna be a burden.

Ja.

Jeg vil ikke være en byrde.

I mean, in my view, it's not all about numbers.

Jeg mener, efter min mening handler det ikke kun om tal.

Yeah.

Ja. Det handler om, du ved, jeg vil hellere leve 60 sunde år end hundrede år,

It's about, you know, I'd rather live 60 healthy years than a hundred years

where half of them are not, you know, in good condition when you can't do much.

hvor halvdelen af ​​dem, du ved, ikke er i god stand, når man ikke kan gøre så meget.

Yeah.

And you know, I've got two children, I would've liked more children, but

Ja.

Og du ved, jeg har to børn, jeg ville gerne have haft flere børn, men

you know, that just hasn't happened.

du ved, det er bare ikke sket.

And I don't want to be that burden on my children.

Og jeg vil ikke være den byrde for mine børn.

I don't want them to have to, you know, figure out if they're gonna put me in a

Jeg vil ikke have, at de skal, du ved, finde ud af, om de vil sætte mig i et

home or have to, you know, look after me.

hjem eller skal, du ved, passe på mig.

And I'd love to be able to be very active with my grandchildren as well

Og jeg ville elske at kunne være meget aktiv med mine børnebørn også,

if I'm blessed with grandchildren.

hvis jeg er velsignet med børnebørn.

And so, you know, getting out and, and walking on a regular basis.

Og så, du ved, at komme ud og gå på regelmæssig basis.

They do say that you should walk around 10,000 steps a day.

De siger, at du skal gå omkring 10.000 skridt om dagen.

A lot.

Yeah.

En masse.

Ja.

A lot.

I think in modern life, doing a thousand, 10,000 steps a day is a lot.

En masse.

Jeg synes i det moderne liv, at det er meget at tage tusind, 10.000 skridt om dagen.

What's that like?

Hvordan er det?

I guess an hour and a half roughly of walking.

Jeg gætter på cirka halvanden times gang.

I can really hear that.

Det kan jeg virkelig høre.

Cornish accent.

Cornish accent.

It comes out in some, in certain words.

Det kommer ud i nogle, med visse ord.

Yeah.

Ja.

We were talking about accents.

Vi talte om accenter.

I previously appeared on Michael's podcast, which you should all go and check

Jeg har tidligere optrådt i Michaels podcast, som I alle burde gå og tjekke

out if you're not already familiar with it, which is the Level Up English podcast.

ud, hvis I ikke allerede er bekendt med den, som er den engelske Level Up-podcast.

Right.

Højre.

There'll be links in the description here, so you can check that out.

Der vil være links i beskrivelsen her, så du kan tjekke det ud.

Um, we were talking about accents and uh, Michael asked me if I could

Um, vi talte om accenter og uh, Michael spurgte mig, om jeg kunne

tell where he was from and I said it was quite hard to pinpoint.

se, hvor han kom fra, og jeg sagde, at det var ret svært at finde ud af.

I said, somewhere, maybe around Bristol, he's actually Cornish.

Jeg sagde, et eller andet sted, måske omkring Bristol, er han faktisk kornisk.

And, um, the more I'm speaking with Michael, the more I can

Og jo mere jeg taler med Michael, jo mere kan jeg

hear the ah sound coming out.

høre ah-lyden komme ud.

So that's why my reaction was, uh, came out there.

Så derfor kom min reaktion derud.

But yes, 10,000 steps a day.

Men ja, 10.000 skridt om dagen.

I think if you are sitting in an office and you are very busy,

Jeg tror, ​​at hvis du sidder på et kontor, og du har meget travlt,

it's quite hard to get that in.

er det ret svært at få det ind.

Something I discovered recently though is you can get treadmills

Noget jeg dog opdagede for nylig er, at du kan få løbebånd

that go underneath your desk.

, der går under dit skrivebord.

So if you did manage to get a standing desk, you can walk while you are working.

Så hvis det lykkedes dig at få et stående skrivebord, kan du gå, mens du arbejder.

I've also seen ones where you can sit down, but it's like..., like

Jeg har også set nogle, hvor man kan sidde ned, men det er ligesom... ligesom

bicycle pedals under the desk as well.

cykelpedaler under skrivebordet også.

I've heard they're quite good.

Jeg har hørt de er ret gode.

I wonder how much you'd be able to concentrate if you are, if you're

Jeg spekulerer på, hvor meget du ville være i stand til at koncentrere dig, hvis du er, hvis du flytter

moving, would it be as easy, especially when you're doing what we do?

, ville det være lige så nemt, især når du laver det, vi gør?

You can't do a podcast when you've got something whirring,

Du kan ikke lave en podcast, når du har noget, der suser,

to whir is like a noise, like a constant, {makes a whirring noise}.

at svirre er som en støj, som en konstant, {laver en svirrende støj}.

You couldn't podcast with that, could you?

Det kunne du ikke podcaste med, vel?

Why is Michael doing this.

Hvorfor gør Michael dette.

Moving side to side.

Bevæger sig fra side til side.

Yeah, I do have a pull-up bar in my garden.

Ja, jeg har en pull-up bar i min have.

'cause I really just enjoy just every now and again, just hanging

For jeg nyder virkelig bare nu og da, bare at hænge

and trying to do a pull-up.

og prøve at lave en pull-up.

Can you do a pull-up?

Kan du lave en pull-up?

Yes.

I was gonna ask you how many you can do if, if any.

Ja.

Jeg ville spørge dig, hvor mange du kan lave, hvis nogen.

Oh, well, I mean from a dead hang all the way up, I can probably only do one.

Åh, ja, jeg mener fra en død hænge hele vejen op, jeg kan nok kun gøre én.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

But if, uh, if it's kind of like with a bit of a jump up and maybe not going

Men hvis, øh, hvis det er lidt ligesom med et hop op og måske ikke går

all the way back down again, then I can probably get out about three or four.

helt ned igen, så kan jeg nok komme ud omkring tre eller fire.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

I'm relatively strong in my upper body, but I was watching something, I think

Jeg er relativt stærk i min overkrop, men jeg så noget, jeg tror,

it was a YouTuber just the other day who said something, a large, I can't remember

​​det var en YouTuber forleden, der sagde noget, stort, jeg kan ikke huske

the figures, but a majority of Americans couldn't do one pull up from a dead hang.

tallene, men et flertal af amerikanerne kunne ikke gøre det. man trækker sig op fra et dødt hænge.

Yeah, I believe it.

Ja, jeg tror det.

And he was trying to put it to the test.

Og han prøvede at prøve det.

He was just out in a, like a busy street asking people to come and

Han var bare ude i en, som en travl gade, og bad folk om at komme og

do one pull-up and he'd give them a hundred dollars if they did.

lave en pull-up, og han ville give dem hundrede dollars, hvis de gjorde.

And surprisingly many people couldn't do it.

Og overraskende mange mennesker kunne ikke gøre det.

I think I, I think I saw that actually.

Jeg tror, ​​jeg, jeg tror, ​​jeg så det faktisk.

Did you?

Gjorde du?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ja.

Ja.

And some people, I think that was it, the YouTuber himself, he could

Og nogle mennesker, jeg tror, ​​det var det, YouTuberen selv, han kunne

do it for a couple minutes or something, but most people couldn't.

gøre det i et par minutter eller noget, men de fleste mennesker kunne ikke.

Yeah, he did, he did like 21 pull-ups or something.

Ja, det gjorde han, han kunne lide 21 pull-ups eller noget.

He was like, um, he'd trained in the Marines or something.

Han var som om, han havde trænet i marinesoldaterne eller noget.

It made me then want to go and do some pull-ups.

Det gav mig så lyst til at gå og lave nogle pull-ups.

I think I could do, like, I could probably do like two or something.

Jeg tror, ​​jeg kunne gøre, sådan, jeg kunne nok gøre sådan to eller noget.

I'm not, I'm not very good, but I sometimes try at the gym I

Det er jeg ikke, jeg er ikke særlig god, men jeg prøver nogle gange i det fitnesscenter, jeg

go to, they've got a bar but I want to get better at that too.

går til, de har en bar, men det vil jeg også gerne blive bedre til.

One is easy, two is a struggle.

En er let, to er en kamp.

Then after that, it, you know, it depends.

Så efter det, det, du ved, det kommer an på.

When I was climbing, I could do a lot more pull-ups than, than I can now, and that's

Da jeg klatrede, kunne jeg lave mange flere pull-ups, end jeg kan nu, og det er

just because I'm not climbing very much.

bare fordi, jeg ikke klatrer ret meget.

You do get a good bit of upper body strength with squash, and you certainly

Du får en god smule styrke i overkroppen med squash, og det

do with gymnastics, but during lockdown, I was pregnant with my second son,

gør du bestemt med gymnastik, men under lockdown var jeg gravid med min anden søn,

and I put on four stone with my second pregnancy, which will mean nothing

og jeg tog fire sten på med min anden graviditet, hvilket sandsynligvis ikke betyder noget

to you probably, but it's a lot.

for dig , men det er meget.

Usually you should put on about two stone with a pregnancy.

Normalt bør du sætte på omkring to sten med en graviditet.

So I put on four, and that's because it was locked down.

Så jeg tog fire på, og det var fordi den var låst.

I couldn't go anywhere.

Jeg kunne ikke gå nogen steder.

I couldn't measure myself.

Jeg kunne ikke måle mig selv.

I had no way of weighing myself, so I had no clue about my weight gain really.

Jeg havde ingen mulighed for at veje mig selv, så jeg havde ingen anelse om min vægtøgning.

And so when I had my child, and then I came back to my sports,

Og så da jeg fik mit barn, og så kom jeg tilbage til min sport,

which was gymnastics and squash.

som var gymnastik og squash.

I had terrible knees because I'd gained all this weight.

Jeg havde forfærdelige knæ, fordi jeg havde taget al den vægt på.

And it took me a lot longer to lose it.

Og det tog mig meget længere tid at miste den.

And then all my muscles and my joints just weren't happy.

Og så var alle mine muskler og led bare ikke glade.

So yeah, getting back into climbing and gymnastics still hasn't yet happened.

Så ja, at komme tilbage til klatring og gymnastik er stadig ikke sket endnu.

I'm back, I'm fully back with my squash, but it's a long road.

Jeg er tilbage, jeg er helt tilbage med min squash, men det er en lang vej.

It's a long road back to previous levels of fitness.

Det er en lang vej tilbage til tidligere niveauer af fitness.

Yeah, you can get back there, but I think it's so much easier to lose health

Ja, du kan komme tilbage dertil, men jeg tror, ​​det er så meget nemmere at miste helbredet,

than it is to gain it back, isn't it?

end det er at få det tilbage, er det ikke?

It takes a lot longer to regain muscle or lose fat.

Det tager meget længere tid at genvinde muskler eller tabe fedt.

It's, it's a shame how that works.

Det er, det er en skam, hvordan det fungerer.

Yeah.

My mum used to say, when I was eating biscuits she'd say "A minute on the lips,

Ja. Min mor plejede at sige, når jeg spiste kiks, sagde hun "Et minut på læberne,

a lifetime on the hips", thanks, mum.

et helt liv på hofterne", tak, mor.

Just before this podcast, I was feeling a bit peckish, a bit

Lige før denne podcast, følte jeg mig en smule pjattet, en smule

hungry, so I picked up some cookies, some biscuits, and I was like...

sulten, så jeg tog nogle småkager, nogle kiks, og jeg var ligesom...

I put it down and had like a handful of nuts instead.

Jeg lagde det fra mig og fik som en håndfuld nødder i stedet for.

So I feel good about my morning.

Så jeg har det godt med min morgen.

Well done.

Godt klaret.

Well done.

We...

Godt klaret.

Vi...

see this, this tin behind us is full of ginger snap biscuits.

ser det her, denne dåse bag os er fuld af ingefærsnap-kiks.

My in-laws keep buying us these same tins 'cause we were

Mine svigerforældre bliver ved med at købe de samme dåser til os, fordi vi tænkte

like, "oh, they're amazing".

"åh, de er fantastiske".

But I really wish they wouldn't because I just can't stop eating them.

Men jeg ville virkelig ønske, at de ikke ville, for jeg kan bare ikke lade være med at spise dem.

It's terrible, especially when it's cold.

Det er forfærdeligt, især når det er koldt.

Next time I'm in Cornwall, you'll have to tell me where I can go to have

Næste gang jeg er i Cornwall, bliver du nødt til at fortælle mig, hvor jeg kan tage hen for at få

a good walk or a scramble perhaps.

en god gåtur eller måske en tur.

Yeah,

likewise.

Ja, ligeså.

When I'm in Surrey, I don't think I've been to Surrey before.

Når jeg er i Surrey, tror jeg ikke, jeg har været i Surrey før.

I'm not sure.

So we'll have to let each other know.

Jeg er ikke sikker.

Så vi bliver nødt til at fortælle hinanden det.

Yeah,

Ja,

yeah, absolutely.

ja, absolut.

Well, thank you so much.

Nå, mange tak.

Can you let the listeners and viewers know where they can find you?

Kan du lade lytterne og seerne vide, hvor de kan finde dig?

Of course.

So there's Level Up English Podcast.

Selvfølgelig.

Så der er Level Up engelsk podcast.

My website is Levelupenglish.school, and you'll find me as well

Min hjemmeside er Levelupenglish.school, og du finder mig også

on YouTube, Instagram.

på YouTube, Instagram.

Yeah.

Fantastic.

Ja. Fantastisk.

Thank you everyone for listening.

Tak til alle for at lytte.

Take care and bye.

Pas på og farvel.

Bye everyone.

Farvel alle sammen.

Thank you for listening to today's podcast.

Tak fordi du lyttede til dagens podcast.

Don't forget that if you want to join my club to download the transcripts,

Glem ikke, at hvis du vil melde dig ind i min klub for at downloade udskrifterne, så

become part of an online community, and to take part in some live,

bliv en del af et online-fællesskab og for at deltage i nogle live,

face-to-face conversation classes.

ansigt-til-ansigt samtalekurser.

Then check out my Conversation Club by clicking on the link.

Så tjek min samtaleklub ud ved at klikke på linket.

There'll also be links to Michael's podcast, website and YouTube

Der vil også være links til Michaels podcast, hjemmeside og YouTube-

channel down in the description.

kanal nede i beskrivelsen.

Until next time everyone, take care and goodbye.

Indtil næste gang alle sammen, pas på og farvel.