English Conversation Listening Practice - British English Podcast (With Level Up English)

Okay, so today I've got Michael here from Level Up English.

U redu, danas je ovdje Michael iz Level Up English.

Hi Michael, how are you today?

Bok Michael, kako si danas?

Hello.

Thank you for having me.

Zdravo.

Hvala što ste me primili.

I'm very good.

Jako sam dobro.

Good to see you.

If I said to you, how are you?

Lijepo te vidjeti.

Kad bih ti rekao, kako si?

And you turned around and said, "well, actually, I'm having a terrible

A ti si se okrenuo i rekao, "pa, zapravo, imam užasan

day", it is not the done thing is?

dan", nije li gotovo?

I think in general, unless you are really, really close to someone.

Mislim općenito, osim ako niste stvarno, jako bliski s nekim.

Uh, when you say, "how are you?"

Uh, kad kažeš, "kako si?"

You're just looking for a very quick "Yes, I'm fine.

Samo tražite vrlo brz "Da, dobro sam.

Thank you.

Hvala.

Let's carry on".

Nastavimo".

It's like an icebreaker or an introduction to your conversation,

To je poput probijanja leda ili uvoda u vaš razgovor,

but genuinely Michael, how are you?

ali iskreno Michael, kako si?

Well, I'm a bit cold.

Pa, malo mi je hladno.

I've got painful knees, you know.

Imam bolna koljena, znaš.

What happened to your knees?

Što ti se dogodilo s koljenima?

They're always bad.

I did a long walk yesterday, um, for a few hours.

Uvijek su loši.

Jučer sam dugo šetao, hm, nekoliko sati.

Sitting down too much, walking too much, not having a balance of each...

Previše sjediti, previše hodati, nemati ravnotežu između oba...

Right.

Okay.

...I think isn't good for your joints, is it?

Točno.

U redu. ...Mislim da nije dobro za tvoje zglobove, zar ne?

Yeah.

I find when I'm static.

Da. Shvaćam kad sam statična.

Static's a nice way to describe being very still.

Statičnost je lijep način da se opiše mirovanje.

When I'm static, so if I have a day in the office just sat at my desk,

Kad sam statičan, pa ako sam dan u uredu samo sjedio za svojim stolom,

I have to actually stand up quite a few times because I start to feel

moram zapravo ustati dosta puta jer počinjem osjećati

like my knees hurt, my hips, my back,

da me bole koljena, kukovi, leđa,

I feel like an old lady.

osjećam se kao starica.

Is walking something that you do often?

Je li hodanje nešto što često radite?

It is, yeah.

Jeste, da.

I mean I try...

Mislim, trudim se...

I successfully try, I would say, to do it every day, go for at least a...

uspješno pokušavam, rekao bih, raditi to svaki dan, otići barem na...

you know, half an hour walk if I can.

znate, pola sata hodanja ako mogu.

It's something I really enjoy.

To je nešto u čemu stvarno uživam.

I mean, there's nothing I enjoy more really than putting in a podcast,

Mislim, ne postoji ništa u čemu stvarno uživam više od stavljanja podcasta,

going through a walk, rain or shine.

hodanja, kiše ili sunca.

It might just be the same route I've done a thousand times, or it might be

To bi mogla biti samo ista ruta koju sam prošao tisuću puta, ili bi to moglo biti

somewhere new I haven't been before.

negdje novo gdje još nisam bio.

You said come rain or shine.

Rekao si da bude kiša ili sunce.

That's a nice little phrase, isn't it?

To je lijepa mala fraza, zar ne?

Yeah.

Da.

It's like whether it's raining or it's sunny, doesn't matter to me.

Kao da pada kiša ili je sunce, meni je svejedno.

I'll go out.

Ja ću izaći.

So do you have all the kit then?

Dakle, imate li sav pribor?

All the gear?

Sva oprema?

I've got like a nice winter coat that keeps me warm, but it's not waterproof,

Imam lijepi zimski kaput koji me grije, ali nije vodootporan,

so I might come back a bit soggy and wet, but I dry my clothes out and

pa bih se mogao vratiti malo mokar i mokar, ali osušio sam odjeću i

I find actually the discomfort of walking in the rain makes arriving

shvatio da je nelagoda hodanja po kiši zapravo čini dolazak

home more enjoyable, you know?

kući ugodnije, znaš?

So we'd probably call this hiking, right?

Pa bismo ovo vjerojatno nazvali planinarenje, zar ne?

If you're going for a long walk, maybe over surfaces that aren't level, so it

Ako idete u dugu šetnju, možda po površinama koje nisu ravne, tako da to

might not be an actual purpose-built path, but you're walking in the countryside

možda nije stvarno namjenski napravljen put, ali hodate u prirodi

or in the hills, in the mountains.

ili u brdima, u planinama.

This would be hiking.

Ovo bi bilo planinarenje.

Really?

Mm-hmm.

Wouldn't it?

Stvarno?

Mm-hmm. Zar ne bi?

Mm-hmm yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm da.

Da.

And I think having a good pair of shoes is really important

I mislim da je imati dobar par cipela jako važno

if you are into your hiking.

ako se bavite planinarenjem.

So tell me, you've got some good walking shoes.

Pa reci mi da imaš dobre cipele za hodanje.

No!?

Ne!?

Well, I'm kind of a minimalist, so I only have one pair of shoes at a time, and the

Pa, ja sam na neki način minimalist, tako da imam samo jedan par cipela u isto vrijeme, a ove koje

one I have now, the pair I have now, I didn't realise until after I bought them,

sada imam, par koji sada imam, nisam shvatio dok ih nisam kupio,

but they're not good for wet weather...

ali one su nije dobro za vlažno vrijeme...

Right.

...like even if it's just like a wet field with like grass, my feet will be soaked.

Točno. ...čak i ako je samo kao mokro polje s poput trave, moja će stopala biti mokra.

Oh, I've kind of got used to it.

Oh, nekako sam se navikla.

In fact, there's a video on my YouTube channel where I was walking on Dartmoor,

Zapravo, postoji video na mom YouTube kanalu gdje sam šetao Dartmoorom,

like a national park here in the UK and, I was like filming and I jumped

kao nacionalnim parkom ovdje u Ujedinjenom Kraljevstvu, kao da sam snimao i preskočio sam

across a little stream and I thought it was flat ground, but it was like a bog.

mali potok i mislio sam da je ravno tlo, ali bilo je kao močvara.

So it was very, very soft mossy ground, saturated with water.

Bilo je to vrlo, vrlo meko tlo obraslo mahovinom, zasićeno vodom.

It looked stable, but it wasn't.

Izgledalo je stabilno, ali nije.

So I ended up like up to my knees in water.

Tako sam završio kao do koljena u vodi.

Oh no.

O ne.

Um, walking boots.

Hm, čizme za hodanje.

Wouldn't have saved me then anyway.

Tada me ionako ne bi spasio.

No.

Ne.

Well, I've done some hiking in the Dolomites in Italy.

Pa, planinario sam u Dolomitima u Italiji.

Mm-hmm.

Nice.

Mm-hmm.

Lijepo.

And we did, um, I think we did six weeks out in Argentina

I jesmo, hm, mislim da smo proveli šest tjedana u Argentini

and, and went to Patagonia.

i otišli u Patagoniju.

So I think having decent shoes, good socks, uh, you know, and a

Pa mislim da imam pristojne cipele, dobre čarape, uh, znaš, i

windproof jacket if nothing else.

jaknu otpornu na vjetar ako ništa drugo.

Yeah.

Did you have the crampons, like the spiked shoes to go on the ice?

Da.

Jeste li imali dereze, kao cipele s šiljcima za ići na led?

Did you have that?

Jeste li to imali?

No.

No.

Ne.

Ne.

So we..., this is one of the stories I often tell, my dangerous adventure story.

Pa mi..., ovo je jedna od priča koje često pričam, moja opasna pustolovna priča.

So we were out in the Dolomites and there was one walk called Punta Ana.

Bili smo vani u Dolomitima i bila je jedna šetnja koja se zvala Punta Ana.

And this is actually via ferrata.

A ovo je zapravo via ferrata.

Mm.

Mm.

So via ferrata is where you are walking up a mountain, and it's not like, it's not

Dakle, via ferrata je mjesto gdje hodate uz planinu, a to nije kao, to nije

mountain climbing, so you're not climbing up a rock face, although sometimes on a

penjanje, tako da se ne penjete uz stijenu, iako ponekad na via

via ferrata you might have to, but it's generally walking on a mountain path,

ferrati možda morate, ali to je općenito hodanje po planinska staza,

but it could be a little bit treacherous.

ali bi mogla biti malo varljiva.

And so there is a metal bar that's like a handrail that you have to clip onto

I tako postoji metalna šipka koja je poput rukohvata na koju se morate zakačiti i

that goes all the way along the walks.

koja ide cijelim putem uz stazu.

So there's one called Punta Ana, and it was in what we call the shoulder season,

Dakle, postoji jedan koji se zove Punta Ana, i bio je u onom što mi zovemo sezona ramena,

which is when it's not quite the high season, when it's nice and warm, and it's

a to je kada nije baš visoka sezona, kada je lijepo i toplo, i nije

not the down season, the cold season.

sezona donjeg rublja, hladna sezona.

So there was snow on the top of the mountains, but it was lovely and

Dakle, snijega je bilo na vrhu planina, ali je bilo lijepo i

sunny at the bottom, you know, so we weren't really prepared for the snow.

sunčano na dnu, znate, tako da nismo baš bili spremni za snijeg.

We set off late and we didn't have crampons, but we did have a rope...

Kasno smo krenuli i nismo imali dereze, ali smo imali konop...

Important!

Važno!

And we came to one bit that was like a saddleback, so it was like

I došli smo do jednog dijela koji je bio kao sedlo, tako da je bilo kao

between two like hilly sections.

između dva brdovita dijela.

There was this just ridge that you had to walk across, which I'm sure

Postojao je samo jedan greben preko kojeg ste morali hodati, za koji sam siguran da

in the dry weather would've been fine, but with it covered in snow...

bi po suhom vremenu bilo dobro, ali s njim prekrivenim snijegom...

and it's a sheer drop on either side of the saddleback.

i to je strmi pad s obje strane sedla.

So you're walking across this ridge that's covered in snow and I was

Dakle, hodaš preko ovog grebena koji je prekriven snijegom, a ja sam

like, this is just so dangerous.

pomislio, ovo je jednostavno tako opasno.

One slip and it's sudden death.

Jedan lapsus i iznenadna smrt.

This is no messing around.

Ovo nije petljanje.

This is death.

Ovo je smrt.

So we used the rope that we had to go over the rope that was supposed

Pa smo koristili uže koje smo morali ići preko užeta koje je trebalo

to be for the via ferrata, but that was very high above our heads.

biti za via ferrata, ali ono je bilo jako visoko iznad naših glava.

So we, we looped this rope over, tied one side around my partner,

Pa smo, omotali smo ovo uže, zavezali jednu stranu oko mog partnera,

one side around me, and we said, if you fall, the other person has to

jednu oko mene, i rekli smo, ako padneš, druga osoba mora

jump off the other side to balance.

skočiti s druge strane da bi održala ravnotežu.

And then we, we, you know, very carefully walked across this saddleback,

I onda smo, mi, znate, vrlo pažljivo hodali preko ovog sedla,

but what we realised was, you know, we weren't gonna turn back now.

ali ono što smo shvatili je, znate, da se sada nećemo vratiti.

This was getting serious.

Ovo je postajalo ozbiljno.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

And then we had a sheer rock face in front of us, a vertical rock face

A onda smo imali strmu stijenu ispred sebe, okomitu stijenu

that we had to properly climb up.

na koju smo se morali pravilno popeti.

Again we only had walking boots on, which was a mistake because our

Opet smo imali samo čizme za hodanje, što je bila greška jer su nam

feet kept slipping off the rocks.

noge stalno klizile sa stijena.

It was awful.

Bilo je užasno.

Again, we knew at this point we can't come back now.

Opet, znali smo u ovom trenutku da se sada ne možemo vratiti.

We can't come back.

Ne možemo se vratiti.

That's the scary part.

To je strašni dio.

We were halfway up and we realised we were making bad time.

Bili smo na pola puta i shvatili smo da se loše provodimo.

The last cable car from the top of the mountain was gonna go really

Posljednja žičara s vrha planine trebala je krenuti vrlo

soon, and that was it for the season.

brzo, i to je bilo to za sezonu.

That was gonna be the last cable car for the season, and we were too far

To je trebala biti zadnja žičara u sezoni, a mi smo previše

behind, so we started shouting out.

zaostajali, pa smo počeli vikati.

We could see there was some people far in the distance.

Mogli smo vidjeti da su neki ljudi daleko u daljini.

Shouting out, saying, please, we're here.

Vičući, govoreći, molim vas, tu smo.

Don't go without us.

Ne idi bez nas.

Anyway, long story short.

U svakom slučaju, duga priča.

We made it, we were exhausted.

Uspjeli smo, bili smo iscrpljeni.

We made it just in time.

Uspjeli smo na vrijeme.

They were holding the cable car for us and they said, you know..

Držali su nam žičaru i rekli, znate..

Wow!

Wow!

"...we, we were about to pull out the mattresses at the station for you

"...mi, mi smo se spremali izvući madrace na stanici kako biste

to spend the night up here, but you would've had to hike out the next day."

proveli noć ovdje gore, ali sljedeći dan biste morali pješačiti."

And I, and we would had no food.

I ja, i mi nismo imali hrane.

You know, it was just, it was a very dangerous situation.

Znate, bila je to vrlo opasna situacija.

Have you ever had anything like that?

Jeste li ikada imali tako nešto?

Yeah.

Your story is terrifying.

Da. Vaša priča je zastrašujuća.

I'm really glad you made it...

Stvarno mi je drago što si uspio...

made it back okay.

uspio si se vratiti u redu.

But yeah, like, I guess I must have been about like 15 or something and my dad

Ali da, pretpostavljam da sam imao oko 15 ili nešto godina i tata

took me on a via ferrata in the Alps.

me poveo na via ferrata u Alpama.

Okay.

And I didn't really know what it was.

U redu.

A ja zapravo nisam znala što je to.

I kind of trusted my dad, like, yeah, it'll be fine.

Nekako sam vjerovao svom tati, kao, da, bit će sve u redu.

And it kind of starts out climbing a ladder.

I na neki način počinje penjanjem uz ljestve.

It's not too bad.

Nije loše.

You have to have yourself hooked in with your harness and your...

Morate se zakačiti svojim pojasom i svojim...

your ropes.

So it's not really possible to fall.

svojim konopcima.

Dakle, nije baš moguće pasti.

Although I kind of always think, why are we trusting these metal poles?

Iako nekako uvijek mislim, zašto vjerujemo ovim metalnim stupovima?

Like, you know, everything breaks one day.

Kao, znate, sve pukne jednog dana.

How do we know it's not gonna be today...

Kako da znamo da neće biti danas...

Um, but then as we ascended, it turned more and more into a cliff.

Hm, ali kako smo se uspinjali, sve se više pretvaralo u liticu.

And I think, as you said before, it was like a cliff.

I mislim, kao što ste prije rekli, bilo je poput litice.

It was just vertical and it was, you know, just like ladders and

Bilo je samo okomito i bilo je, znaš, baš kao ljestve i

metal things you had to hold onto.

metalne stvari za koje se moraš držati.

So it was like proper climbing, but it was safe.

Bilo je to kao pravo penjanje, ali bilo je sigurno.

Yeah.

And it was, you know, good holds to hold onto, but looking

Da.

I bilo je to, znate, dobro držanje za držanje, ali gledajući

below me and just seeing...

ispod sebe i samo gledajući...

for me in my, you know, younger mind, it felt like hundreds of feet below me.

za mene u mom, znate, mlađem umu, činilo se kao stotinama stopa ispod mene.

I don't know how much it really was, but it was just terrifying.

Ne znam koliko je stvarno bilo, ali bilo je jednostavno zastrašujuće.

And we didn't...

We made it to the top, but if you look back on the photos of that day,

I nismo...

Stigli smo do vrha, ali ako se osvrnete na fotografije tog dana,

you can see like my face is just grumpy for the whole day after that.

vidite da mi je lice samo mrzovoljno cijeli dan nakon toga.

I was in such a bad mood.

Bio sam tako loše volje.

I think I'd just been traumatised, you know.

Mislim da sam samo bio traumatiziran, znaš.

What worries me about the via ferrata is you have to have a special

Ono što me brine u vezi via ferrate je da morate imati poseban

harness thing to hook on with.

pojas za zakačenje.

So you have your harness...

Dakle, imate svoj pojas...

...which is what you wear, and then you would normally, with climbing,

...to je ono što nosite, a onda biste normalno, uz penjanje,

you'd have a rope and some carabiners, which are the connecting metal loops.

imali uže i neke karabinere, koji su spojne metalne petlje.

That's right, isn't it?

Carabiners?

Tako je, zar ne?

karabineri?

Yeah.

Da.

When you do via ferrata, you have a special, I think it's called a tether,

Kada vozite via ferrata, imate poseban, mislim da se zove tether,

um, a special tether that is all bunched up into a short, what feels

hm, poseban konopac koji je sav skupljen u kratku užad, što se čini

like a short rope or a short lead, and to connect from your harness through

kao kratko uže ili kratko uže, i za spajanje vašeg pojasa kroz

to your carabiner that you hook on.

na svoj karabiner koji zakačiš.

So it feels short.

Dakle, čini se kratkim.

But then what would happen is if you fell this tether tears and it

Ali ono što bi se onda dogodilo je da padnete ovaj remen i on

releases quite a long stretch of like, I don't know, 10 metres or something.

se oslobodi prilično dugog dijela, otprilike, ne znam, 10 metara ili tako nešto.

It's quite a long stretch.

To je prilično duga dionica.

Mm.

Okay.

So it's all bunched up inside this tether.

Mm. U redu.

Dakle, sve je skupljeno unutar ove trake.

It tears open if you fall.

Rastrga se ako padnete.

And the idea is that it, it's taking some of the momentum out of your fall

A ideja je da to, ono oduzima dio zamaha vašem padu

as it's tearing, it's slowing your fall down because if you were to just...

dok se kida, usporava vaš pad jer ako biste samo...

you need space.

treba vam prostora.

But if you were to fall and you had a lot of rope, you could get tangled up in it.

Ali ako padnete, a imate puno užeta, mogli biste se zapetljati u njega.

And also the momentum, by the time you hit the end of the rope, the momentum

A također i zamah, dok udarite u kraj užeta, zamah

would be so hard, you'd break your back...

bi bio tako jak, da biste slomili leđa...

mm-hmm.

mm-hmm.

or some bones from your harness.

ili neke kosti iz tvoje orme.

It would just be too much impact.

To bi jednostavno bio prevelik utjecaj.

So it has to slow your descent.

Dakle, mora usporiti vaše spuštanje.

So that's when you have this tearing...

Dakle, tada imate to trganje...

interesting

zanimljivo

...to release the rope inside this tether.

...osloboditi uže unutar ovog remena.

Which means if you have a fall and you tear it, it's used, you can't

Što znači da ako padnete i potrgate ga, korišten je, ne možete

restitch it, so it's, it's done.

ga ponovno zašiti, tako da je, gotovo je.

So you have your fall, you use your tether, and it's like releasing

Dakle, imate svoj pad, koristite svoj remen, i to je kao da otpuštate

your parachute, but then you need to get back in the plane and carry

svoj padobran, ali onda se morate vratiti u avion i nastaviti

on and jump out the plane again.

i ponovno iskočiti iz aviona.

You'd be unlucky to fall twice though, wouldn't you?

Ne biste imali sreće da padnete dvaput, zar ne?

Well, so, but if you...

Pa, tako, ali ako...

imagine you're, you're tired and the weather's bad.

zamislite da ste, da ste umorni i da je vrijeme loše.

Yeah.

You're halfway up a mountain or halfway through a via ferreta and

Da. Nalazite se na pola puta do planine ili na pola puta kroz via ferretu i

you fall, your tether's done, spent.

padnete, vaša veza je gotova, potrošena.

Then you have to climb yourself back onto the..., you know, you

Onda se moraš popeti natrag na..., znaš,

might be hanging from an overhang.

možda visiš s prevjesa.

Somehow you have to get back onto the mountain, back onto the

Nekako se moraš vratiti na planinu, natrag na

path, and then, and then you...

stazu, i onda, i onda ti...

what do you do then?

što onda radiš?

You've got no safety rope, not really, not a, not a genuine one that's gonna actually

Nemate sigurnosno uže, ne baš, ne, ne pravo koje bi

work for you, to get you either all the way there or all the way back, you know?

vam zapravo poslužilo, da vas odvede ili cijelim putem tamo ili skroz natrag, znate?

Mm-hmm.

That's always what bothered me when we were doing these very long, quite

Mm-hmm.

To je ono što me uvijek mučilo dok smo išli na te vrlo duge, prilično

arduous hikes, is that potentially, if I have one fall in the middle, then...

naporne šetnje, je da potencijalno, ako doživim jedan pad usred, onda...

I'll, I'll be without any real safety afterwards.

Ja ću, ja ću biti bez ikakve prave sigurnosti nakon toga.

Yeah.

I feel like that's a difference between us and the pros, right?

Da. Osjećam da je to razlika između nas i profesionalaca, zar ne?

The pros seem to not, the professionals, they don't, they

Čini se da profesionalci ne, profesionalci, ne,

don't think about this almost.

gotovo da ne razmišljaju o ovome.

It's like they, they take precautions, but the idea of failing

Kao da poduzimaju mjere predostrožnosti, ali pomisao na neuspjeh

isn't even an option for them.

im uopće nije opcija.

Like if you've seen people do free soloing where they climb cliffs

Kao da ste vidjeli ljude koji se bave slobodnim soliranjem gdje se penju po liticama

without any rope or safety equipment.

bez ikakvog užeta ili sigurnosne opreme.

Like I guess, I imagine they just don't have the concept of failing.

Kao što pretpostavljam, zamišljam da jednostavno nemaju koncept neuspjeha.

Like it's not even in their mind.

Kao da im nije ni na kraj pameti.

'cause if it were, probably it's more likely to happen.

jer da jest, vjerojatnije je da će se dogoditi.

I guess that's how it works.

Valjda to tako funkcionira.

Things like gymnastics and, and climbing as well, but with

Stvari poput gimnastike i penjanja također, ali s

gymnastics it's like 95% mental.

gimnastikom je 95% mentalno.

Like what you are thinking is what's going to happen.

Kao da je ono što mislite ono što će se dogoditi.

So you have to get your mind in the right place and not think about falling.

Dakle, morate dovesti svoj um na pravo mjesto i ne razmišljati o padu.

If you think about it, if you visualise it, it will more likely happen.

Ako razmišljate o tome, ako to vizualizirate, to će se vjerojatnije dogoditi.

Mm-hmm.

And if you are scared, you hold back and you tense up in a way that will cause

Mm-hmm.

A ako ste uplašeni, suzdržavate se i naprežete se na način koji će izazvati

the incident or the accident to happen.

incident ili nesreću.

Fear is an obstacle to overcome, but at the same time, it is there to protect us.

Strah je prepreka koju treba savladati, ali je u isto vrijeme tu da nas zaštiti.

So it's, it's..., I guess there's a balance of appropriate

Dakle, to je..., pretpostavljam da postoji ravnoteža odgovarajućih

levels of fear, isn't there?

razina straha, zar ne?

But I guess I can relate to that.

Ali pretpostavljam da se mogu poistovjetiti s tim.

Like I'm a big fan of, I dunno what you'd call it, it's a bit like scrambling.

Kao da sam ja veliki obožavatelj, ne znam kako biste to nazvali, malo je poput prevrtanja.

It's not climbing.

Nije penjanje.

I'm not a fan of that after my traumatic childhood, but more like, um,

Nisam obožavatelj toga nakon mog traumatičnog djetinjstva, ali više kao, hm,

... It's where you use your hands and feet, isn't it?

... Ovdje se koriste ruke i noge, zar ne?

it's where you use your hands and feet to climb up like rocky terrain.

to je mjesto gdje koristite svoje ruke i noge da se popnete poput stjenovitog terena.

I feel like it's like parkour in the countryside.

Osjećam se kao da je to kao parkour na selu.

Like I love kind of jumping over rocks, jumping over rivers and stuff like that.

Kao da volim skakati preko stijena, skakati preko rijeka i takve stvari.

I think I'm quite good on my feet in that sense.

Mislim da sam dosta dobar u tom smislu.

But as soon as you start to think about how it could go wrong, then you mess up.

Ali čim počnete razmišljati o tome kako bi moglo poći po zlu, onda zabrljate.

Yeah.

Like imagine you're jumping over a stream.

Da. Zamislite da preskačete potok.

It's quite a big stream, a wide stream.

To je dosta velik potok, širok potok.

If you think about like, oh, it's too big, it's...

Ako razmišljaš o tome, oh, preveliko je, to je...

I can't do it, then you're gonna fall in.

Ne mogu to učiniti, onda ćeš upasti.

But if you just focus on the other side and you just go for it, then

Ali ako se samo usredotočiš na drugu stranu i ideš samo za tim,

you'll almost definitely do it.

onda gotovo sigurno ću to učiniti.

So it is very mental.

Dakle, vrlo je mentalno.

Many things are.

Mnoge stvari jesu.

I always think if you were able to live for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

Uvijek mislim da bismo mogli živjeti stotine i stotine i stotine

years, would we just end up being bored?

godina, bi li nam na kraju bilo dosadno?

Would we exhaust all the options of, you know, adrenaline sports?

Hoćemo li iscrpiti sve mogućnosti adrenalinskih sportova?

Would nothing excite us anymore?

Zar nas više ništa ne bi uzbuđivalo?

Well, a counter-argument to that,

Pa, protuargument tome,

it depends what you mean by living, how, how we would live for that

ovisi što mislite pod životom, kako, kako bismo živjeli toliko

long, because, and really interesting thing I like to think about is, say

dugo, jer, i stvarno zanimljiva stvar o kojoj volim razmišljati je, recimo,

if we discovered through medicine, like how to, how to live for

da smo otkrili kroz medicinu, na primjer kako , kako živjeti

a thousand years, I think we'd be the most risk averse species.

tisuću godina, mislim da bismo mi bili vrsta koja je najviše sklona riziku.

You know, we, we wouldn't do anything risky because let's say

Znate, mi, mi ne bismo učinili ništa riskantno jer recimo da

you are like I dunno, 40 years old, and you sadly pass away doing

imate ne znam, 40 godina, i nažalost umirete radeći

something dangerous, it's very sad.

nešto opasno, to je jako tužno.

But I guess you're like middle-aged then, aren't you?

Ali pretpostavljam da si onda kao sredovječan, zar ne?

You, you can...

Yes, I am middle-aged Michael

Ti, ti možeš...

Da, ja sam sredovječni Michael

Oh, I'm so sorry.

I don't know your age, I promise.

Oh, tako mi je žao.

Ne znam koliko imaš godina, obećavam.

I'm 41.

Imam 41.

I'm 41.

Imam 41.

You don't look it.

Ne izgledaš tako.

You look very, very young.

Izgledaš jako, jako mlado.

Look younger than me and I'm...

Izgledaj mlađe od mene i ja sam...

it's okay.

u redu je.

I'm only playing with you.

Samo se igram s tobom.

I don't mind.

nemam ništa protiv.

Oh, you've made me, um feel awkward now.

Oh, zbog tebe sam se sada osjećao neugodno.

No, it's okay.

Ne, uredu je.

But I get what you mean.

It's, it's relative, right?

Ali shvaćam što misliš.

To je relativno, zar ne?

You feel like you've, you've lived half your life.

Osjećate se kao da ste proživjeli pola svog života.

If I were to die tomorrow, it wouldn't be as sad as if I died when I was 15

Kad bih sutra umro, ne bi bilo tako tužno kao da sam umro s 15 godina

because there's less life ahead of me now than there was when I was a teenager.

jer sada je manje života ispred mene nego kad sam bio tinejdžer.

Yes.

And if you were to live to a thousand, if that were possible when you

Da.

A ako biste doživjeli tisuću, ako bi to bilo moguće kada umrete

died at 40 or even 80, that would be a huge tragedy because you're

s 40 ili čak 80 godina, to bi bila velika tragedija jer propuštate

missing out on most of your life.

većinu svog života.

Yeah.

Da.

So I feel like people wouldn't do as much if we lived for that long, you know?

Tako da osjećam da ljudi ne bi učinili toliko da smo živjeli toliko dugo, znaš?

Yeah.

We'd be much more cautious, I imagine.

Da. Pretpostavljam da bismo bili puno oprezniji.

Yeah.

And maybe we'd work harder on our relationships.

Da.

I možda bismo više radili na našim odnosima.

And it's interesting to think how, what we would do for careers.

I zanimljivo je razmišljati kako, što bismo učinili za karijeru.

Would we actually change careers many times and try out many different things?

Bismo li doista puno puta mijenjali karijeru i isprobavali mnogo različitih stvari?

It would certainly give us more options, wouldn't it?

To bi nam sigurno dalo više mogućnosti, zar ne?

Uh, yeah.

Uh, da.

I wonder because there's a lot of projects that people have

Pitam se jer postoji mnogo projekata koje su ljudi

started before that they...

započeli prije toga...

I think about big cathedrals and things and space programs that they

Mislim na velike katedrale i stvari i svemirske programe koje oni

know they're not gonna see the end of which is always really amazing

znaju da neće vidjeti kraj čemu je uvijek stvarno nevjerojatno

that people can commit themselves to doing part of a project in their life.

da se ljudi mogu posvetiti obavljanju dijela projekta u svom životu.

But I imagine there'd be a lot more people doing important stuff

Ali pretpostavljam da će biti mnogo više ljudi koji rade važne stvari

like, "okay, I'm gonna dedicate my life to curing this disease.

poput, "u redu, posvetit ću svoj život liječenju ove bolesti.

(it) Might take me 500 years, but it's doable".

(za to) bi mi moglo trebati 500 godina, ali izvedivo je".

I wonder how, um, how we'd look if we lived to a thousand.

Pitam se kako, hm, kako bismo izgledali da doživimo tisuću.

You see some people who...

Vidite neke ljude koji...

who do manage to make it to a hundred, but our bodies aren't really built...

koji ipak uspiju doći do stote, ali naša tijela nisu baš građena...

really for, for surviving that long.

baš za to da prežive tako dugo.

It is interesting when you touch, we touch on longevity and things.

Zanimljivo je kad dodirnete, dotaknemo se dugovječnosti i stvari.

I actually follow, a chap called David Sinclair, he's someone

Zapravo pratim, momka po imenu David Sinclair, on je netko

who I've mentioned a lot.

koga sam često spominjao.

Yeah.

And we actually adjust our lifestyle to, to kind of follow some of the things

Da.

I zapravo prilagođavamo svoj životni stil tome, na neki način slijedimo neke od stvari

that he teaches to help you to live a longer life because I really would

koje on podučava kako bismo vam pomogli da živite dulji život jer ja bih stvarno

like to live for a very long time.

želio živjeti jako dugo.

I certainly want to live till I'm a hundred.

Svakako želim živjeti do svoje stote.

I don't know if I'll get there, but..., even if I make it to 80,

Ne znam hoću li stići, ali... čak i ako doživim 80,

I want to make sure that I'm as healthy as I can be until that age.

želim biti siguran da ću biti zdrav koliko mogu biti do te dobi.

That's the key, isn't it?

To je ključ, zar ne?

Yeah.

I don't wanna be a burden.

Da.

Ne želim biti teret.

I mean, in my view, it's not all about numbers.

Mislim, po mom mišljenju, nije sve u brojevima.

Yeah.

Da. Radi se o, znate, radije bih živio 60 zdravih godina nego stotinu godina

It's about, you know, I'd rather live 60 healthy years than a hundred years

where half of them are not, you know, in good condition when you can't do much.

od kojih polovica nije, znate, u dobrom stanju kad ne možete učiniti puno.

Yeah.

And you know, I've got two children, I would've liked more children, but

Da.

I znate, ja imam dvoje djece, volio bih još djece, ali

you know, that just hasn't happened.

znate, to se jednostavno nije dogodilo.

And I don't want to be that burden on my children.

I ne želim biti takav teret svojoj djeci.

I don't want them to have to, you know, figure out if they're gonna put me in a

Ne želim da moraju, znaš, odlučivati ​​hoće li me smjestiti u

home or have to, you know, look after me.

dom ili moraju, znaš, paziti na mene.

And I'd love to be able to be very active with my grandchildren as well

I volio bih biti vrlo aktivan sa svojim unucima ako

if I'm blessed with grandchildren.

budem blagoslovljen unucima.

And so, you know, getting out and, and walking on a regular basis.

I tako, znate, redovito izlaziti i hodati.

They do say that you should walk around 10,000 steps a day.

Kažu da biste trebali hodati oko 10 000 koraka dnevno.

A lot.

Yeah.

Puno.

Da.

A lot.

I think in modern life, doing a thousand, 10,000 steps a day is a lot.

Puno.

Mislim da je u modernom životu napraviti tisuću, 10.000 koraka dnevno puno.

What's that like?

kako je to

I guess an hour and a half roughly of walking.

Valjda sat i pol hodanja.

I can really hear that.

To stvarno mogu čuti.

Cornish accent.

Kornvalski naglasak.

It comes out in some, in certain words.

Izlazi u nekim, određenim riječima.

Yeah.

Da.

We were talking about accents.

Govorili smo o naglascima.

I previously appeared on Michael's podcast, which you should all go and check

Prethodno sam se pojavio na Michaelovom podcastu, koji biste svi trebali pogledati

out if you're not already familiar with it, which is the Level Up English podcast.

ako već niste upoznati s njim, a to je podcast Level Up English.

Right.

Pravo.

There'll be links in the description here, so you can check that out.

Ovdje će u opisu biti poveznice, tako da to možete provjeriti.

Um, we were talking about accents and uh, Michael asked me if I could

Hm, razgovarali smo o naglascima i uh, Michael me pitao mogu li

tell where he was from and I said it was quite hard to pinpoint.

reći odakle je, a ja sam rekla da je prilično teško odrediti.

I said, somewhere, maybe around Bristol, he's actually Cornish.

Rekao sam, negdje, možda oko Bristola, on je zapravo Cornish.

And, um, the more I'm speaking with Michael, the more I can

I, hm, što više razgovaram s Michaelom, to više čujem

hear the ah sound coming out.

zvuk ah kako izlazi.

So that's why my reaction was, uh, came out there.

Zato je moja reakcija bila, uh, izašla tamo.

But yes, 10,000 steps a day.

Ali da, 10 000 koraka dnevno.

I think if you are sitting in an office and you are very busy,

Mislim da ako sjedite u uredu i jako ste zauzeti,

it's quite hard to get that in.

prilično je teško to ostvariti.

Something I discovered recently though is you can get treadmills

Nedavno sam otkrio da možete nabaviti trake za trčanje

that go underneath your desk.

koje vam idu ispod stola.

So if you did manage to get a standing desk, you can walk while you are working.

Dakle, ako ste uspjeli nabaviti stol za stajanje, možete hodati dok radite.

I've also seen ones where you can sit down, but it's like..., like

Vidio sam i one gdje možete sjesti, ali to je kao..., kao i

bicycle pedals under the desk as well.

pedale za bicikl ispod stola.

I've heard they're quite good.

Čuo sam da su prilično dobri.

I wonder how much you'd be able to concentrate if you are, if you're

Pitam se koliko bi se mogao koncentrirati ako jesi, ako se krećeš

moving, would it be as easy, especially when you're doing what we do?

, bi li bilo jednako lako, pogotovo kada radiš ono što mi radimo?

You can't do a podcast when you've got something whirring,

Ne možete napraviti podcast kada vam nešto zuji,

to whir is like a noise, like a constant, {makes a whirring noise}.

zujanje je poput buke, kao konstanta, {pravi zvuk zujanja}.

You couldn't podcast with that, could you?

Nisi mogao podcast s tim, zar ne?

Why is Michael doing this.

Zašto Michael to radi.

Moving side to side.

Pomicanje s jedne strane na drugu.

Yeah, I do have a pull-up bar in my garden.

Da, imam šipku za izvlačenje u svom vrtu.

'cause I really just enjoy just every now and again, just hanging

jer stvarno samo uživam s vremena na vrijeme, samo visim

and trying to do a pull-up.

i pokušavam napraviti povlačenje.

Can you do a pull-up?

Znaš li napraviti povlačenje?

Yes.

I was gonna ask you how many you can do if, if any.

Da.

Htio sam te pitati koliko ih možeš učiniti ako, ako uopće.

Oh, well, I mean from a dead hang all the way up, I can probably only do one.

Oh, pa, mislim od mrtvog prekida do kraja, vjerojatno mogu samo jedno.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

But if, uh, if it's kind of like with a bit of a jump up and maybe not going

Ali ako, uh, ako je nešto poput malog skoka gore i možda ne vraćanja

all the way back down again, then I can probably get out about three or four.

skroz natrag, onda vjerojatno mogu izaći oko tri ili četiri.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

I'm relatively strong in my upper body, but I was watching something, I think

Relativno sam jak u gornjem dijelu tijela, ali gledao sam nešto, mislim da

it was a YouTuber just the other day who said something, a large, I can't remember

je YouTuber baš neki dan rekao nešto, veliko, ne mogu se sjetiti

the figures, but a majority of Americans couldn't do one pull up from a dead hang.

brojki, ali većina Amerikanaca nije mogla jedno povlačenje iz mrtvog položaja.

Yeah, I believe it.

Da, vjerujem.

And he was trying to put it to the test.

I pokušavao ga je staviti na kušnju.

He was just out in a, like a busy street asking people to come and

Upravo je bio vani u prometnoj ulici i molio ljude da dođu i

do one pull-up and he'd give them a hundred dollars if they did.

naprave jedno zgibanje, a on bi im dao sto dolara da to učine.

And surprisingly many people couldn't do it.

I iznenađujuće mnogo ljudi to nije moglo učiniti.

I think I, I think I saw that actually.

Mislim da sam, mislim da sam to zapravo vidio.

Did you?

Jesi li?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Da.

Da.

And some people, I think that was it, the YouTuber himself, he could

A neki ljudi, mislim da je to bilo to, sam YouTuber, mogao je

do it for a couple minutes or something, but most people couldn't.

to učiniti na nekoliko minuta ili tako nešto, ali većina ljudi nije mogla.

Yeah, he did, he did like 21 pull-ups or something.

Da, napravio je, napravio je otprilike 21 zgib ili tako nešto.

He was like, um, he'd trained in the Marines or something.

Bio je kao, um, da je trenirao u marincima ili tako nešto.

It made me then want to go and do some pull-ups.

Tada sam poželio otići i napraviti zgibove.

I think I could do, like, I could probably do like two or something.

Mislim da bih mogao, kao, vjerojatno bih mogao učiniti dva ili tako nešto.

I'm not, I'm not very good, but I sometimes try at the gym I

Nisam, nisam baš dobar, ali ponekad pokušam u teretani u koju idem

go to, they've got a bar but I want to get better at that too.

, imaju bar, ali i ja želim postati bolji u tome.

One is easy, two is a struggle.

Jedan je lak, dva su borba.

Then after that, it, you know, it depends.

Onda nakon toga, to, znate, ovisi.

When I was climbing, I could do a lot more pull-ups than, than I can now, and that's

Kad sam se penjao, mogao sam napraviti puno više zgibova nego sada, a to je

just because I'm not climbing very much.

samo zato što se ne penjem baš puno.

You do get a good bit of upper body strength with squash, and you certainly

Dobivate dobar dio snage gornjeg dijela tijela sa squashom, a svakako i

do with gymnastics, but during lockdown, I was pregnant with my second son,

s gimnastikom, ali tijekom karantene, bila sam trudna sa svojim drugim sinom,

and I put on four stone with my second pregnancy, which will mean nothing

i udebljala sam se u drugoj trudnoći, što

to you probably, but it's a lot.

vam vjerojatno neće ništa značiti , ali puno je.

Usually you should put on about two stone with a pregnancy.

Obično biste trebali staviti oko dva kamena s trudnoćom.

So I put on four, and that's because it was locked down.

Pa sam stavio četiri, i to zato što je bilo zaključano.

I couldn't go anywhere.

Nisam mogao nikamo.

I couldn't measure myself.

Nisam se mogao izmjeriti.

I had no way of weighing myself, so I had no clue about my weight gain really.

Nisam se mogla vagati, pa nisam imala pojma o svom debljanju.

And so when I had my child, and then I came back to my sports,

I tako kad sam dobila dijete, vratila sam se svom sportu,

which was gymnastics and squash.

a to su bili gimnastika i squash.

I had terrible knees because I'd gained all this weight.

Imao sam užasna koljena jer sam se udebljao.

And it took me a lot longer to lose it.

I trebalo mi je puno više vremena da ga izgubim.

And then all my muscles and my joints just weren't happy.

A onda svi moji mišići i zglobovi jednostavno nisu bili sretni.

So yeah, getting back into climbing and gymnastics still hasn't yet happened.

Dakle, da, povratak penjanju i gimnastici još se nije dogodio.

I'm back, I'm fully back with my squash, but it's a long road.

Vratio sam se, potpuno sam se vratio sa svojim squashom, ali dug je to put.

It's a long road back to previous levels of fitness.

Dug je put do prijašnjih razina kondicije.

Yeah, you can get back there, but I think it's so much easier to lose health

Da, možeš se tamo vratiti, ali mislim da je mnogo lakše izgubiti zdravlje

than it is to gain it back, isn't it?

nego ga vratiti, zar ne?

It takes a lot longer to regain muscle or lose fat.

Potrebno je puno više vremena da se povrati mišić ili izgubi masno tkivo.

It's, it's a shame how that works.

Šteta je kako to funkcionira.

Yeah.

My mum used to say, when I was eating biscuits she'd say "A minute on the lips,

Da. Moja mama je govorila, kad sam jeo kekse, rekla bi "Minuta na usnama,

a lifetime on the hips", thanks, mum.

cijeli život na bokovima", hvala, mama.

Just before this podcast, I was feeling a bit peckish, a bit

Neposredno prije ovog podcasta, osjećao sam se malo peckanje, pomalo

hungry, so I picked up some cookies, some biscuits, and I was like...

gladan, pa sam uzeo neke kolačiće, neke kekse, i bio sam kao...

I put it down and had like a handful of nuts instead.

Spustio sam to i umjesto toga pojeo šaku oraha.

So I feel good about my morning.

Tako da se dobro osjećam zbog svog jutra.

Well done.

Dobro napravljeno.

Well done.

We...

Dobro napravljeno.

Mi...

see this, this tin behind us is full of ginger snap biscuits.

vidimo ovo, ova limenka iza nas puna je keksa s đumbirom.

My in-laws keep buying us these same tins 'cause we were

Moji svekrvi i svekrvi nam stalno kupuju te iste limenke jer smo

like, "oh, they're amazing".

rekli, "oh, nevjerojatne su".

But I really wish they wouldn't because I just can't stop eating them.

Ali stvarno bih volio da nisu jer ih jednostavno ne mogu prestati jesti.

It's terrible, especially when it's cold.

Strašno je, pogotovo kad je hladno.

Next time I'm in Cornwall, you'll have to tell me where I can go to have

Sljedeći put kad budem u Cornwallu, morat ćete mi reći kamo mogu otići da se

a good walk or a scramble perhaps.

dobro prošetam ili možda malo malo odvezemo.

Yeah,

likewise.

Da, isto tako.

When I'm in Surrey, I don't think I've been to Surrey before.

Kad sam u Surreyu, mislim da nisam prije bio u Surreyu.

I'm not sure.

So we'll have to let each other know.

Nisam siguran.

Pa ćemo morati jedni drugima dati do znanja.

Yeah,

Da,

yeah, absolutely.

da, apsolutno.

Well, thank you so much.

Pa, hvala vam puno.

Can you let the listeners and viewers know where they can find you?

Možete li slušateljima i gledateljima dati do znanja gdje vas mogu pronaći?

Of course.

So there's Level Up English Podcast.

Naravno.

Dakle, tu je Level Up English Podcast.

My website is Levelupenglish.school, and you'll find me as well

Moja web stranica je Levelupenglish.school, a pronaći ćete i mene

on YouTube, Instagram.

na YouTubeu, Instagramu.

Yeah.

Fantastic.

Da. Fantastičan.

Thank you everyone for listening.

Hvala svima na slušanju.

Take care and bye.

Čuvaj se i ćao.

Bye everyone.

Cao svima.

Thank you for listening to today's podcast.

Hvala vam što ste slušali današnji podcast.

Don't forget that if you want to join my club to download the transcripts,

Ne zaboravite da ako se želite pridružiti mom klubu kako biste preuzeli transkripte,

become part of an online community, and to take part in some live,

postali dio online zajednice i sudjelovali u nekim

face-to-face conversation classes.

tečajevima razgovora uživo, licem u lice.

Then check out my Conversation Club by clicking on the link.

Zatim pogledajte moj Konverzacijski klub klikom na poveznicu.

There'll also be links to Michael's podcast, website and YouTube

Također će biti poveznice na Michaelov podcast, web stranicu i YouTube

channel down in the description.

kanal dolje u opisu.

Until next time everyone, take care and goodbye.

Do sljedećeg puta svi, čuvajte se i doviđenja.