English Conversation Listening Practice - British English Podcast (With Level Up English)

Okay, so today I've got Michael here from Level Up English.

Olgu, täna on mul siin Michael Level Up English'ist.

Hi Michael, how are you today?

Tere Michael, kuidas sul täna läheb?

Hello.

Thank you for having me.

Tere.

Tänan, et mul on olemas.

I'm very good.

Olen väga tubli.

Good to see you.

If I said to you, how are you?

Tore sind näha.

Kui ma sulle ütlesin, kuidas sul läheb?

And you turned around and said, "well, actually, I'm having a terrible

Ja sa pöörasid ümber ja ütlesid: "Tegelikult, mul on kohutav

day", it is not the done thing is?

päev", kas see pole tehtud?

I think in general, unless you are really, really close to someone.

Ma arvan üldiselt, välja arvatud juhul, kui olete kellegagi väga-väga lähedane.

Uh, when you say, "how are you?"

Kui sa ütled: "Kuidas läheb?"

You're just looking for a very quick "Yes, I'm fine.

Otsite lihtsalt väga kiiret "Jah, mul on kõik korras.

Thank you.

Aitäh.

Let's carry on".

Jätkame".

It's like an icebreaker or an introduction to your conversation,

See on nagu jäämurdja või sissejuhatus teie vestlusesse,

but genuinely Michael, how are you?

aga siiralt Michael, kuidas läheb?

Well, I'm a bit cold.

No mul on natuke külm.

I've got painful knees, you know.

Mul on põlved valusad, tead.

What happened to your knees?

Mis su põlvedega juhtus?

They're always bad.

I did a long walk yesterday, um, for a few hours.

Nad on alati halvad.

Ma tegin eile pika jalutuskäigu, paar tundi.

Sitting down too much, walking too much, not having a balance of each...

Liiga palju istuda, liiga palju kõndida, mitte olla tasakaalus...

Right.

Okay.

...I think isn't good for your joints, is it?

Õige.

Okei. ...ma arvan, et see pole teie liigestele hea, eks?

Yeah.

I find when I'm static.

Jah. Ma leian, kui olen staatiline.

Static's a nice way to describe being very still.

Staatiline on hea viis kirjeldada väga paigal olemist.

When I'm static, so if I have a day in the office just sat at my desk,

Kui ma olen staatiline, nii et kui ma olen kontoris lihtsalt oma laua taga istunud,

I have to actually stand up quite a few times because I start to feel

pean ma päris mitu korda püsti tõusma, sest mulle hakkab tunduma,

like my knees hurt, my hips, my back,

et põlved, puusad, selg valutavad.

I feel like an old lady.

vana daam.

Is walking something that you do often?

Kas kõndimine on midagi, mida teete sageli?

It is, yeah.

On, jah.

I mean I try...

Tähendab, ma proovin...

I successfully try, I would say, to do it every day, go for at least a...

Üritan edukalt, ma ütleks, et teha seda iga päev, mine vähemalt...

you know, half an hour walk if I can.

tead, pooletunnine jalutuskäik, kui saan.

It's something I really enjoy.

See on midagi, mida ma väga naudin.

I mean, there's nothing I enjoy more really than putting in a podcast,

See tähendab, et ma ei naudi midagi rohkem kui taskuhäälingusaadete lisamine,

going through a walk, rain or shine.

jalutuskäik, sajab või paistab.

It might just be the same route I've done a thousand times, or it might be

See võib olla lihtsalt sama marsruut, mida olen tuhat korda läbinud, või see võib olla

somewhere new I haven't been before.

uus koht, kus ma pole varem käinud.

You said come rain or shine.

Sa ütlesid, et tulgu vihma või ilma.

That's a nice little phrase, isn't it?

See on tore väike fraas, kas pole?

Yeah.

Jah.

It's like whether it's raining or it's sunny, doesn't matter to me.

Minu jaoks pole vahet, kas sajab vihma või on päike.

I'll go out.

ma lähen välja.

So do you have all the kit then?

Kas teil on siis kogu komplekt olemas?

All the gear?

Kogu varustus?

I've got like a nice winter coat that keeps me warm, but it's not waterproof,

Mul on nagu kena talvejope, mis hoiab soojas, aga see ei ole veekindel,

so I might come back a bit soggy and wet, but I dry my clothes out and

nii et võin tagasi tulla veidi läbimärg ja märg, aga kuivatan riided ära ja

I find actually the discomfort of walking in the rain makes arriving

ma leian, et vihmas kõndimine teeb kojujõudmise ebamugavaks

home more enjoyable, you know?

. nauditavam, tead?

So we'd probably call this hiking, right?

Nii et me nimetaksime seda ilmselt matkamiseks, eks?

If you're going for a long walk, maybe over surfaces that aren't level, so it

Kui lähete pikale jalutuskäigule, võib-olla üle pindade, mis ei ole tasased, nii et see

might not be an actual purpose-built path, but you're walking in the countryside

ei pruugi olla tegelik rajatud rada, vaid kõnnite maal

or in the hills, in the mountains.

või küngas, mägedes.

This would be hiking.

See oleks matkamine.

Really?

Mm-hmm.

Wouldn't it?

Kas tõesti?

Mm-hmm. kas poleks?

Mm-hmm yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm jah.

Jah.

And I think having a good pair of shoes is really important

Ja ma arvan, et hea kingapaar on

if you are into your hiking.

matkamisel väga oluline.

So tell me, you've got some good walking shoes.

Ütle mulle, et sul on head jalanõud.

No!?

Ei!?

Well, I'm kind of a minimalist, so I only have one pair of shoes at a time, and the

Noh, ma olen selline minimalist, nii et mul on korraga ainult üks paar jalatseid ja see, mis

one I have now, the pair I have now, I didn't realise until after I bought them,

mul praegu on, see paar, mis mul praegu on, sain ma aru alles pärast nende ostmist,

but they're not good for wet weather...

kuid need on ei sobi märja ilma jaoks...

Right.

...like even if it's just like a wet field with like grass, my feet will be soaked.

Õige. ...nagu isegi kui see on nagu märg põld nagu muru, on mu jalad läbimärjad.

Oh, I've kind of got used to it.

Oh, ma olen sellega kuidagi harjunud.

In fact, there's a video on my YouTube channel where I was walking on Dartmoor,

Tegelikult on mu YouTube'i kanalil video, kus ma kõndisin Dartmooril

like a national park here in the UK and, I was like filming and I jumped

nagu Ühendkuningriigi rahvuspark ja ma nagu filmisin ja hüppasin

across a little stream and I thought it was flat ground, but it was like a bog.

üle väikese oja ja arvasin, et see on tasane maa, aga see oli nagu raba.

So it was very, very soft mossy ground, saturated with water.

Nii et see oli väga-väga pehme sammaldunud pinnas, mis oli veega küllastunud.

It looked stable, but it wasn't.

See tundus stabiilne, aga ei olnud.

So I ended up like up to my knees in water.

Seega sattusin nagu põlvini vette.

Oh no.

Oh ei.

Um, walking boots.

Ee, kõndimissaapad.

Wouldn't have saved me then anyway.

Mind poleks siis päästnud igatahes.

No.

Ei

Well, I've done some hiking in the Dolomites in Italy.

. Ma olen Itaalias Dolomiitides matkanud.

Mm-hmm.

Nice.

Mm-hmm.

Tore.

And we did, um, I think we did six weeks out in Argentina

Ja me tegime, um, ma arvan, et käisime kuus nädalat Argentinas väljas

and, and went to Patagonia.

ja läksime Patagooniasse.

So I think having decent shoes, good socks, uh, you know, and a

Nii et ma arvan, et teil on korralikud kingad, head sokid ja

windproof jacket if nothing else.

tuulekindel jope, kui mitte midagi muud.

Yeah.

Did you have the crampons, like the spiked shoes to go on the ice?

Jah.

Kas teil olid jääle minekuks krambid, näiteks naelkingad?

Did you have that?

Kas teil oli see?

No.

No.

Ei.

Ei.

So we..., this is one of the stories I often tell, my dangerous adventure story.

Nii et me..., see on üks lugusid, mida ma sageli räägin, minu ohtlik seikluslugu.

So we were out in the Dolomites and there was one walk called Punta Ana.

Niisiis olime väljas Dolomiitides ja seal oli üks jalutuskäik nimega Punta Ana.

And this is actually via ferrata.

Ja see on tegelikult via ferrata.

Mm.

Mm.

So via ferrata is where you are walking up a mountain, and it's not like, it's not

Nii et via ferrata on koht, kus te kõnnite mäest üles ja see ei ole

mountain climbing, so you're not climbing up a rock face, although sometimes on a

mägironimine, nii et te ei roni kaljuseinast üles, kuigi mõnikord

via ferrata you might have to, but it's generally walking on a mountain path,

peate võib-olla via ferrata teel, kuid üldiselt on see kõndimine mägitee,

but it could be a little bit treacherous.

kuid see võib olla pisut reetlik.

And so there is a metal bar that's like a handrail that you have to clip onto

Ja nii on olemas metallvarras, mis on nagu käsipuu, mille külge tuleb klammerdada ja

that goes all the way along the walks.

mis läheb kogu jalutuskäiku mööda.

So there's one called Punta Ana, and it was in what we call the shoulder season,

Nii et seal on üks nimega Punta Ana ja see oli ajal, mida me nimetame õlahooajaks,

which is when it's not quite the high season, when it's nice and warm, and it's

mis on siis, kui ei ole päris kõrghooaeg, kui on mõnus ja soe, ja see

not the down season, the cold season.

ei ole mõõnahooaeg, külm aastaaeg.

So there was snow on the top of the mountains, but it was lovely and

Nii et mägede tipus oli lund, aga

sunny at the bottom, you know, so we weren't really prepared for the snow.

all oli ilus ja päikesepaisteline, nii et me ei olnud lumeks eriti valmistunud.

We set off late and we didn't have crampons, but we did have a rope...

Asusime teele hilja ja meil polnud krampe, aga köis oli...

Important!

Tähtis!

And we came to one bit that was like a saddleback, so it was like

Ja jõudsime ühe punktini, mis oli nagu sadulaselg, nii et see oli nagu

between two like hilly sections.

kahe nagu künkliku lõigu vahel.

There was this just ridge that you had to walk across, which I'm sure

Seal oli see hari, millest tuli üle kõndida, mis oleks kindlasti

in the dry weather would've been fine, but with it covered in snow...

kuiva ilmaga sobinud, aga kui see oli lumega kaetud...

and it's a sheer drop on either side of the saddleback.

ja see on kummalgi pool sadulaselga puhas kukkumine.

So you're walking across this ridge that's covered in snow and I was

Nii et sa kõnnid üle selle lumega kaetud harja ja ma mõtlesin

like, this is just so dangerous.

, et see on lihtsalt nii ohtlik.

One slip and it's sudden death.

Üks libisemine ja see on äkksurm.

This is no messing around.

See pole mingi jama.

This is death.

See on surm.

So we used the rope that we had to go over the rope that was supposed

Seega kasutasime köit, millega pidime minema üle trossi, mis pidi

to be for the via ferrata, but that was very high above our heads.

olema via ferrata jaoks, aga see oli väga kõrgel meie peade kohal.

So we, we looped this rope over, tied one side around my partner,

Niisiis, me keerasime selle köie ümber, sidusime ühe külje ümber mu partneri,

one side around me, and we said, if you fall, the other person has to

ühe külje enda ümber ja ütlesime, et kui sa kukud, peab teine ​​inimene

jump off the other side to balance.

tasakaalu hoidmiseks teiselt poolt maha hüppama.

And then we, we, you know, very carefully walked across this saddleback,

Ja siis me, teate, kõndisime väga ettevaatlikult üle selle sadulaselja,

but what we realised was, you know, we weren't gonna turn back now.

kuid mõistsime, et me ei kavatse nüüd tagasi pöörata.

This was getting serious.

See muutus tõsiseks.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

And then we had a sheer rock face in front of us, a vertical rock face

Ja siis oli meie ees puhas kaljusein, vertikaalne kaljusein,

that we had to properly climb up.

millest pidime korralikult üles ronima.

Again we only had walking boots on, which was a mistake because our

Jällegi olid meil jalas ainult saapad, mis oli viga, sest jalad

feet kept slipping off the rocks.

libisesid pidevalt kividelt.

It was awful.

See oli kohutav.

Again, we knew at this point we can't come back now.

Jällegi teadsime, et me ei saa nüüd tagasi tulla.

We can't come back.

Me ei saa tagasi tulla.

That's the scary part.

See on hirmutav osa.

We were halfway up and we realised we were making bad time.

Olime poole peal ja mõistsime, et teeme halvasti.

The last cable car from the top of the mountain was gonna go really

Viimane köisraudtee mäetipust pidi varsti minema

soon, and that was it for the season.

ja sellega hooajaks kõik.

That was gonna be the last cable car for the season, and we were too far

See oli selle hooaja viimane köisraudtee ja me olime liiga palju

behind, so we started shouting out.

maha jäänud, nii et hakkasime välja karjuma.

We could see there was some people far in the distance.

Nägime, et kaugel oli inimesi.

Shouting out, saying, please, we're here.

Karjudes, et palun, me oleme siin.

Don't go without us.

Ära mine ilma meieta.

Anyway, long story short.

Igatahes pikk jutt.

We made it, we were exhausted.

Saime hakkama, olime väsinud.

We made it just in time.

Saime õigel ajal hakkama.

They were holding the cable car for us and they said, you know..

Nad hoidsid meie jaoks köisraudteed ja ütlesid, et tead...

Wow!

Vau!

"...we, we were about to pull out the mattresses at the station for you

"...me, me tahtsime jaamas madratseid välja tõmmata, et saaksite

to spend the night up here, but you would've had to hike out the next day."

siin ööbida, aga te oleksite pidanud järgmisel päeval välja matkama."

And I, and we would had no food.

Ja mina ja meil poleks süüa.

You know, it was just, it was a very dangerous situation.

Tead, see oli lihtsalt väga ohtlik olukord.

Have you ever had anything like that?

Kas teil on kunagi midagi sellist olnud?

Yeah.

Your story is terrifying.

Jah. Sinu lugu on hirmutav.

I'm really glad you made it...

Mul on väga hea meel, et sa sellega hakkama said...

made it back okay.

tegid selle korda.

But yeah, like, I guess I must have been about like 15 or something and my dad

Aga jah, ma pidin olema umbes 15 või midagi sellist ja mu isa

took me on a via ferrata in the Alps.

viis mind Via ferratale Alpides.

Okay.

And I didn't really know what it was.

Okei.

Ja ma ei teadnud tegelikult, mis see on.

I kind of trusted my dad, like, yeah, it'll be fine.

Ma usaldasin oma isa, nagu jah, kõik saab korda.

And it kind of starts out climbing a ladder.

Ja see algab justkui redelil ronimisest.

It's not too bad.

See pole väga hull.

You have to have yourself hooked in with your harness and your...

Peate end oma rakmete ja...

your ropes.

So it's not really possible to fall.

oma köitega siduma.

Nii et tegelikult pole võimalik kukkuda.

Although I kind of always think, why are we trusting these metal poles?

Kuigi ma mõtlen alati, miks me neid metallposte usaldame?

Like, you know, everything breaks one day.

Nagu teate, kõik puruneb ühel päeval.

How do we know it's not gonna be today...

Kust me teame, et seda täna ei juhtu...

Um, but then as we ascended, it turned more and more into a cliff.

Hm, aga siis, kui me tõusime, muutus see üha enam kaljuks.

And I think, as you said before, it was like a cliff.

Ja ma arvan, nagu sa enne ütlesid, et see oli nagu kalju.

It was just vertical and it was, you know, just like ladders and

See oli lihtsalt vertikaalne ja see oli nagu redelid ja

metal things you had to hold onto.

metallasjad, millest pidi kinni hoidma.

So it was like proper climbing, but it was safe.

Nii et see oli nagu korralik ronimine, kuid see oli ohutu.

Yeah.

And it was, you know, good holds to hold onto, but looking

Jah.

Ja see oli, teate, head hoidised, millest kinni hoida, aga

below me and just seeing...

minu alla vaadates ja lihtsalt nähes...

for me in my, you know, younger mind, it felt like hundreds of feet below me.

minu, tead, nooremas mõistuses, tundus see nagu sadu jalgu allpool.

I don't know how much it really was, but it was just terrifying.

Ma ei tea, kui palju see tegelikult oli, aga see oli lihtsalt hirmutav.

And we didn't...

We made it to the top, but if you look back on the photos of that day,

Ja me ei jõudnud...

Me jõudsime tippu, aga kui vaadata tagasi selle päeva fotodele, siis

you can see like my face is just grumpy for the whole day after that.

on näha, et mu nägu on pärast seda terve päeva lihtsalt pahur.

I was in such a bad mood.

Mul oli nii paha tuju.

I think I'd just been traumatised, you know.

Ma arvan, et olin lihtsalt traumeeritud.

What worries me about the via ferrata is you have to have a special

Via ferrata puhul teeb mulle muret see, et sul peab olema spetsiaalne

harness thing to hook on with.

rakmed, mille külge haakida.

So you have your harness...

Nii et teil on rakmed...

...which is what you wear, and then you would normally, with climbing,

...mida te kannate, ja siis on teil tavaliselt ronimisel

you'd have a rope and some carabiners, which are the connecting metal loops.

köis ja mõned karabiinid, mis on ühendavad metallaasad.

That's right, isn't it?

Carabiners?

See on õige, kas pole?

Karabiinid?

Yeah.

Jah.

When you do via ferrata, you have a special, I think it's called a tether,

Kui teete via ferrata, on teil spetsiaalne, ma arvan, et seda nimetatakse sidemeks,

um, a special tether that is all bunched up into a short, what feels

hm, spetsiaalne köis, mis kõik on kokku pandud lühikeseks nööriks, mis tundub

like a short rope or a short lead, and to connect from your harness through

lühikese nööri või lühikese juhtmena, ja ühendamiseks oma rakmetest läbi.

to your carabiner that you hook on.

oma karabiini külge, mille külge haagite.

So it feels short.

Nii et see tundub lühike.

But then what would happen is if you fell this tether tears and it

Aga mis siis juhtuks, kui see lõas rebeneks ja see

releases quite a long stretch of like, I don't know, 10 metres or something.

laseb välja päris pika venituse, nagu, ma ei tea, 10 meetrit või midagi.

It's quite a long stretch.

See on üsna pikk osa.

Mm.

Okay.

So it's all bunched up inside this tether.

Mm. Okei.

Nii et see kõik on selle lõa sees kokku pandud.

It tears open if you fall.

Kukkumisel rebeneb see lahti.

And the idea is that it, it's taking some of the momentum out of your fall

Ja idee on selles, et see võtab teie kukkumisest osa hoo maha

as it's tearing, it's slowing your fall down because if you were to just...

, kuna see rebeneb, see aeglustab teie kukkumist, sest kui te lihtsalt...

you need space.

vajate ruumi.

But if you were to fall and you had a lot of rope, you could get tangled up in it.

Aga kui sa kukuks ja sul oleks palju köit, võid sa sellesse sassi minna.

And also the momentum, by the time you hit the end of the rope, the momentum

Ja ka hoog, selleks ajaks, kui nööri otsa lööd,

would be so hard, you'd break your back...

oleks hoog juba nii kõva, et murraks selja...

mm-hmm.

mm-hmm.

or some bones from your harness.

või mõned luud rakmete küljest.

It would just be too much impact.

See oleks lihtsalt liiga suur mõju.

So it has to slow your descent.

Nii et see peab teie laskumist aeglustama.

So that's when you have this tearing...

See on siis, kui sul on see rebenemine...

interesting

huvitav

...to release the rope inside this tether.

... vabastada köis selle lõas sees.

Which means if you have a fall and you tear it, it's used, you can't

Mis tähendab, et kui teil on kukkumine ja te selle rebite, on see kasutatud, te ei saa

restitch it, so it's, it's done.

seda uuesti õmmelda, nii et see on tehtud.

So you have your fall, you use your tether, and it's like releasing

Nii et teil on kukkumine, kasutate lõast ja see on nagu

your parachute, but then you need to get back in the plane and carry

langevarju vabastamine, kuid siis peate lennukisse tagasi minema, jätkama

on and jump out the plane again.

ja uuesti lennukist välja hüppama.

You'd be unlucky to fall twice though, wouldn't you?

Kuid teil poleks õnne kaks korda kukkuda, kas pole?

Well, so, but if you...

Noh, aga kui sa...

imagine you're, you're tired and the weather's bad.

kujutad ette, et oled, siis oled väsinud ja ilm on halb.

Yeah.

You're halfway up a mountain or halfway through a via ferreta and

Jah. Olete poolel teel mäest üles või poolel teel via ferretast ja

you fall, your tether's done, spent.

kukute, lõas on otsas, kulunud.

Then you have to climb yourself back onto the..., you know, you

Siis pead sa end tagasi ronima..., tead, sa

might be hanging from an overhang.

võid rippuda üleulatuse küljes.

Somehow you have to get back onto the mountain, back onto the

Kuidagi tuleb tagasi mäele, rajale tagasi saada

path, and then, and then you...

ja siis, ja siis...

what do you do then?

mida sa siis teed?

You've got no safety rope, not really, not a, not a genuine one that's gonna actually

Sul pole turvaköit, mitte päriselt, mitte ehtsat, mis

work for you, to get you either all the way there or all the way back, you know?

sinu jaoks tegelikult toimiks, et viia sind kas lõpuni või tagasi, tead?

Mm-hmm.

That's always what bothered me when we were doing these very long, quite

Mm-hmm.

See on mind alati häirinud, kui me neid väga pikki, üsna vaevarikkaid matku tegime

arduous hikes, is that potentially, if I have one fall in the middle, then...

, et potentsiaalselt, kui mul on vahepeal üks kukkumine, siis...

I'll, I'll be without any real safety afterwards.

ma olen, pärast olen ilma tõelise ohutuseta.

Yeah.

I feel like that's a difference between us and the pros, right?

Jah. Mulle tundub, et see on meie ja professionaalide erinevus, eks?

The pros seem to not, the professionals, they don't, they

Tundub, et professionaalid ei mõtle sellele, nad

don't think about this almost.

ei mõtle sellele peaaegu.

It's like they, they take precautions, but the idea of failing

See on nagu nemad, nad võtavad ettevaatusabinõusid, kuid ebaõnnestumise idee

isn't even an option for them.

pole nende jaoks isegi võimalik.

Like if you've seen people do free soloing where they climb cliffs

Nagu oleksite näinud inimesi tasuta soolo tegemas, kus nad ronivad kaljudel

without any rope or safety equipment.

ilma köie või turvavarustuseta.

Like I guess, I imagine they just don't have the concept of failing.

Nagu ma arvan, ma kujutan ette, et neil lihtsalt pole läbikukkumise kontseptsiooni.

Like it's not even in their mind.

Nagu see polekski neil meeles.

'cause if it were, probably it's more likely to happen.

Sest kui see nii oleks, on see tõenäoliselt tõenäolisem.

I guess that's how it works.

Nii see vist käibki.

Things like gymnastics and, and climbing as well, but with

Sellised asjad nagu võimlemine ja ja ronimine samuti, aga võimlemisega

gymnastics it's like 95% mental.

on see nagu 95% vaimne.

Like what you are thinking is what's going to happen.

Nagu see, mida sa mõtled, on see, mis juhtub.

So you have to get your mind in the right place and not think about falling.

Seega tuleb mõistus õigesse kohta viia ja mitte mõelda kukkumisele.

If you think about it, if you visualise it, it will more likely happen.

Kui te sellele mõtlete, kui te seda visualiseerite, siis see tõenäolisemalt juhtub.

Mm-hmm.

And if you are scared, you hold back and you tense up in a way that will cause

Mm-hmm.

Ja kui sa kardad, hoiad end tagasi ja pingestute viisil, mis põhjustab

the incident or the accident to happen.

intsidendi või õnnetuse juhtumise.

Fear is an obstacle to overcome, but at the same time, it is there to protect us.

Hirm on takistus, millest tuleb üle saada, kuid samas on see selleks, et meid kaitsta.

So it's, it's..., I guess there's a balance of appropriate

Nii et see on..., ma arvan, et seal on tasakaal sobivate

levels of fear, isn't there?

hirmutasemete vahel, kas pole?

But I guess I can relate to that.

Aga ma arvan, et suudan sellega samastada.

Like I'm a big fan of, I dunno what you'd call it, it's a bit like scrambling.

Nagu ma olen suur fänn, ma ei tea, kuidas te seda nimetaksite, see on natuke nagu rüselus.

It's not climbing.

See ei ole ronimine.

I'm not a fan of that after my traumatic childhood, but more like, um,

Ma ei ole selle austaja pärast oma traumeerivat lapsepõlve, aga pigem

... It's where you use your hands and feet, isn't it?

... See on koht, kus sa kasutad oma käsi ja jalgu, kas pole?

it's where you use your hands and feet to climb up like rocky terrain.

see on koht, kus te kasutate oma käsi ja jalgu, et ronida üles nagu kivine maastik.

I feel like it's like parkour in the countryside.

Mulle tundub, et see on nagu parkour maal.

Like I love kind of jumping over rocks, jumping over rivers and stuff like that.

Nagu ma armastan üle kivide hüppamist, jõgede hüppamist ja muud sellist.

I think I'm quite good on my feet in that sense.

Ma arvan, et olen selles mõttes päris hea jalul.

But as soon as you start to think about how it could go wrong, then you mess up.

Aga niipea, kui hakkate mõtlema, kuidas see valesti võib minna, ajate sassi.

Yeah.

Like imagine you're jumping over a stream.

Jah. Kujutage ette, et hüppate üle oja.

It's quite a big stream, a wide stream.

See on üsna suur oja, lai oja.

If you think about like, oh, it's too big, it's...

Kui sa mõtled sellele, et oh, see on liiga suur, see on...

I can't do it, then you're gonna fall in.

ma ei saa sellega hakkama, siis sa kukud sisse.

But if you just focus on the other side and you just go for it, then

Aga kui sa lihtsalt keskendud teisele poolele ja lihtsalt lähed sellele, siis

you'll almost definitely do it.

sa peaaegu kindlasti teen seda.

So it is very mental.

Nii et see on väga vaimne.

Many things are.

Paljud asjad on.

I always think if you were able to live for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

Ma mõtlen alati, kui sa saaksid elada sadu ja sadu ja sadu

years, would we just end up being bored?

aastaid, kas meil hakkaks lõpuks igav?

Would we exhaust all the options of, you know, adrenaline sports?

Kas ammendaksime kõik adrenaliinispordi võimalused?

Would nothing excite us anymore?

Kas meid ei erutaks enam miski?

Well, a counter-argument to that,

Noh, vastuargument sellele,

it depends what you mean by living, how, how we would live for that

see sõltub sellest, mida sa elamise all mõtled, kuidas, kuidas me nii kaua elaksime

long, because, and really interesting thing I like to think about is, say

, sest ja väga huvitav asi, millele mulle meeldib mõelda, on see, et

if we discovered through medicine, like how to, how to live for

kui me avastasime läbi meditsiini, näiteks kuidas , kuidas elada

a thousand years, I think we'd be the most risk averse species.

tuhat aastat, ma arvan, et me oleksime kõige riskikartlikumad liigid.

You know, we, we wouldn't do anything risky because let's say

Teate, me ei teeks midagi riskantset, sest oletame, et

you are like I dunno, 40 years old, and you sadly pass away doing

olete nagu ma ei tea, 40-aastane ja surete kahjuks

something dangerous, it's very sad.

midagi ohtlikku tehes, see on väga kurb.

But I guess you're like middle-aged then, aren't you?

Aga sa oled vist siis nagu keskealine, kas pole?

You, you can...

Yes, I am middle-aged Michael

Sina, sa võid...

Jah, ma olen keskealine Michael

Oh, I'm so sorry.

I don't know your age, I promise.

Oh, mul on nii kahju.

Ma ei tea su vanust, ma luban.

I'm 41.

Ma olen 41.

I'm 41.

Ma olen 41.

You don't look it.

Sa ei näe seda välja.

You look very, very young.

Sa näed väga-väga noor välja.

Look younger than me and I'm...

Näe minust noorem välja ja ma olen...

it's okay.

see on okei.

I'm only playing with you.

Ma ainult mängin sinuga.

I don't mind.

Mul pole midagi selle vastu.

Oh, you've made me, um feel awkward now.

Oh, sa panid mind nüüd ebamugavalt tundma.

No, it's okay.

Ei, pole midagi.

But I get what you mean.

It's, it's relative, right?

Aga ma saan aru, mida sa mõtled.

See on suhteline, eks?

You feel like you've, you've lived half your life.

Sa tunned, et oled pool oma elust elanud.

If I were to die tomorrow, it wouldn't be as sad as if I died when I was 15

Kui ma peaksin homme surema, poleks see nii kurb, nagu oleksin surnud 15-aastaselt,

because there's less life ahead of me now than there was when I was a teenager.

sest praegu on minu ees vähem elu kui teismeeas.

Yes.

And if you were to live to a thousand, if that were possible when you

Jah.

Ja kui te elaksite tuhandeni, kui see oleks võimalik, kui suri

died at 40 or even 80, that would be a huge tragedy because you're

40- või isegi 80-aastaselt, oleks see tohutu tragöödia, sest jääte

missing out on most of your life.

suurema osa oma elust ilma.

Yeah.

Jah.

So I feel like people wouldn't do as much if we lived for that long, you know?

Nii et ma tunnen, et inimesed ei teeks nii palju, kui me nii kaua elaks, tead?

Yeah.

We'd be much more cautious, I imagine.

Jah. Ma kujutan ette, et me oleksime palju ettevaatlikumad.

Yeah.

And maybe we'd work harder on our relationships.

Jah.

Ja võib-olla teeksime oma suhete kallal rohkem tööd.

And it's interesting to think how, what we would do for careers.

Ja huvitav on mõelda, kuidas, mida me karjääri nimel teeksime.

Would we actually change careers many times and try out many different things?

Kas me tõesti vahetaksime mitu korda karjääri ja prooviksime palju erinevaid asju?

It would certainly give us more options, wouldn't it?

See annaks meile kindlasti rohkem valikuvõimalusi, kas pole?

Uh, yeah.

Ahjaa.

I wonder because there's a lot of projects that people have

Ma imestan, sest seal on palju projekte, mida inimesed on

started before that they...

varem alustanud, et nad...

I think about big cathedrals and things and space programs that they

Ma mõtlen suurtele katedraalidele ja asjadele ja kosmoseprogrammidele, mida nad

know they're not gonna see the end of which is always really amazing

teavad, et nad ei näe selle lõppu, mis on alati hämmastav,

that people can commit themselves to doing part of a project in their life.

et inimesed saavad pühenduda oma elus osalema mõnes projektis.

But I imagine there'd be a lot more people doing important stuff

Kuid ma kujutan ette, et inimesi teeb palju rohkem selliseid olulisi asju

like, "okay, I'm gonna dedicate my life to curing this disease.

nagu "okei, ma pühendan oma elu selle haiguse ravimisele.

(it) Might take me 500 years, but it's doable".

(selleks võib kuluda 500 aastat, aga see on teostatav".

I wonder how, um, how we'd look if we lived to a thousand.

Huvitav, kuidas me näeksime välja, kui elaksime tuhandeni.

You see some people who...

Näete inimesi, kes...

who do manage to make it to a hundred, but our bodies aren't really built...

kes küll jõuavad sajani, aga meie kehad pole tegelikult ehitatud...

really for, for surviving that long.

tegelikult selleks, et nii kaua ellu jääda.

It is interesting when you touch, we touch on longevity and things.

See on huvitav, kui puudutate, meie puudutame pikaealisust ja asju.

I actually follow, a chap called David Sinclair, he's someone

Ma tegelikult jälgin, mees nimega David Sinclair, ta on keegi

who I've mentioned a lot.

, keda olen palju maininud.

Yeah.

And we actually adjust our lifestyle to, to kind of follow some of the things

Jah.

Ja me tegelikult kohandame oma elustiili, et järgida mõningaid asju

that he teaches to help you to live a longer life because I really would

, mida ta õpetab, et aidata teil elada pikemat elu, sest ma tõesti tahaksin

like to live for a very long time.

elada väga kaua.

I certainly want to live till I'm a hundred.

Kindlasti tahan elada saja-aastaseks saamiseni.

I don't know if I'll get there, but..., even if I make it to 80,

Ma ei tea, kas ma jõuan, aga..., isegi kui ma jõuan 80-ni,

I want to make sure that I'm as healthy as I can be until that age.

tahan olla kindel, et olen selle vanuseni nii terve kui võimalik.

That's the key, isn't it?

See on võti, kas pole?

Yeah.

I don't wanna be a burden.

Jah.

Ma ei taha olla koormaks.

I mean, in my view, it's not all about numbers.

Ma mõtlen, et minu arvates pole kõik numbrites.

Yeah.

Jah. Asi on selles, et ma eelistan elada 60 tervena kui sada aastat,

It's about, you know, I'd rather live 60 healthy years than a hundred years

where half of them are not, you know, in good condition when you can't do much.

kus pooled neist ei ole heas seisukorras, kui sa ei saa palju teha.

Yeah.

And you know, I've got two children, I would've liked more children, but

Jah.

Ja tead, mul on kaks last, ma oleks tahtnud rohkem lapsi, aga

you know, that just hasn't happened.

tead, seda lihtsalt pole juhtunud.

And I don't want to be that burden on my children.

Ja ma ei taha olla see koorem oma lastele.

I don't want them to have to, you know, figure out if they're gonna put me in a

Ma ei taha, et nad peaksid aru saama, kas nad panevad mind koju

home or have to, you know, look after me.

või peavad minu eest hoolitsema.

And I'd love to be able to be very active with my grandchildren as well

Ja mulle meeldiks, kui saaksin olla väga aktiivne ka oma lastelastega, kui

if I'm blessed with grandchildren.

mind on õnnistatud lapselastega.

And so, you know, getting out and, and walking on a regular basis.

Ja nii, teate, regulaarselt välja tulla ja kõndida.

They do say that you should walk around 10,000 steps a day.

Nad ütlevad, et peaksite kõndima umbes 10 000 sammu päevas.

A lot.

Yeah.

Palju.

Jah.

A lot.

I think in modern life, doing a thousand, 10,000 steps a day is a lot.

Palju.

Ma arvan, et tänapäeva elus on tuhat, 10 000 sammu päevas tegemine palju.

What's that like?

Mis see on?

I guess an hour and a half roughly of walking.

Ma arvan, et umbes poolteist tundi kõndimist.

I can really hear that.

Ma tõesti kuulen seda.

Cornish accent.

Cornish aktsent.

It comes out in some, in certain words.

See tuleb välja mõnes, teatud sõnades.

Yeah.

Jah.

We were talking about accents.

Rääkisime aktsentidest.

I previously appeared on Michael's podcast, which you should all go and check

Varem esinesin Michaeli taskuhäälingusaates, mida peaksite kõik vaatama minema,

out if you're not already familiar with it, which is the Level Up English podcast.

kui te pole sellega veel tuttav. See on ingliskeelne taskuhääling.

Right.

Õige.

There'll be links in the description here, so you can check that out.

Siin on kirjelduses lingid, nii et saate seda kontrollida.

Um, we were talking about accents and uh, Michael asked me if I could

Ee, me rääkisime aktsentidest ja Michael küsis minult, kas ma saan

tell where he was from and I said it was quite hard to pinpoint.

öelda, kust ta pärit on, ja ma ütlesin, et seda on üsna raske täpselt kindlaks teha.

I said, somewhere, maybe around Bristol, he's actually Cornish.

Ma ütlesin, et kuskil, võib-olla Bristoli kandis, on ta tegelikult Cornish.

And, um, the more I'm speaking with Michael, the more I can

Ja mida rohkem ma Michaeliga räägin, seda rohkem ma kuulen

hear the ah sound coming out.

ah-heli välja tulemas.

So that's why my reaction was, uh, came out there.

Seetõttu tuli minu reaktsioon välja.

But yes, 10,000 steps a day.

Aga jah, 10 000 sammu päevas.

I think if you are sitting in an office and you are very busy,

Ma arvan, et kui istute kontoris ja olete väga hõivatud,

it's quite hard to get that in.

on seda üsna raske sisse saada.

Something I discovered recently though is you can get treadmills

Hiljuti avastasin siiski, et võite hankida jooksulinte

that go underneath your desk.

, mis lähevad teie laua alla.

So if you did manage to get a standing desk, you can walk while you are working.

Nii et kui teil õnnestus seisulaud hankida, võite töötamise ajal kõndida.

I've also seen ones where you can sit down, but it's like..., like

Olen näinud ka selliseid, kus saab maha istuda, aga see on nagu..., nagu

bicycle pedals under the desk as well.

rattapedaalid laua all ka.

I've heard they're quite good.

Olen kuulnud, et need on päris head.

I wonder how much you'd be able to concentrate if you are, if you're

Huvitav, kui palju te suudaksite keskenduda, kui olete, kui liigute

moving, would it be as easy, especially when you're doing what we do?

, kas see oleks sama lihtne, eriti kui teete seda, mida meie teeme?

You can't do a podcast when you've got something whirring,

Sa ei saa teha taskuhäälingusaadet, kui sul on midagi vinguvat,

to whir is like a noise, like a constant, {makes a whirring noise}.

vingumine on nagu müra, nagu pidev, {teeb vinguvat müra}.

You couldn't podcast with that, could you?

Sa ei saanud sellega podcasti teha, eks?

Why is Michael doing this.

Miks Michael seda teeb.

Moving side to side.

Liikumine küljelt küljele.

Yeah, I do have a pull-up bar in my garden.

Jah, mul on aias tõmbekang.

'cause I really just enjoy just every now and again, just hanging

Sest ma tõesti lihtsalt naudin aeg-ajalt lihtsalt rippumist

and trying to do a pull-up.

ja pingutust.

Can you do a pull-up?

Kas sa saad tõmbet teha?

Yes.

I was gonna ask you how many you can do if, if any.

Jah.

Ma tahtsin teilt küsida, kui palju saate teha, kui üldse.

Oh, well, I mean from a dead hang all the way up, I can probably only do one.

Oh, noh, ma mõtlen surnud riputamisest kuni lõpuni üles, saan ilmselt teha ainult ühe.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

But if, uh, if it's kind of like with a bit of a jump up and maybe not going

Aga kui see on umbes selline, et hüppab veidi üles ja võib-olla ei lähe

all the way back down again, then I can probably get out about three or four.

uuesti alla, siis ma saan tõenäoliselt välja umbes kolm või neli.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

I'm relatively strong in my upper body, but I was watching something, I think

Ma olen suhteliselt tugev ülakehas, aga ma vaatasin midagi, arvan, et

it was a YouTuber just the other day who said something, a large, I can't remember

just eile ütles see YouTuber, kes ütles midagi, suurt, ma ei mäleta

the figures, but a majority of Americans couldn't do one pull up from a dead hang.

numbreid, aga enamus ameeriklasi ei suutnud. üks tõmbub surnud poost üles.

Yeah, I believe it.

Jah, ma usun seda.

And he was trying to put it to the test.

Ja ta püüdis seda proovile panna.

He was just out in a, like a busy street asking people to come and

Ta oli just väljas, nagu elaval tänaval, paludes inimestel tulla ja

do one pull-up and he'd give them a hundred dollars if they did.

teha üks jõutõmme ja kui nad seda teeksid, annaks ta neile sada dollarit.

And surprisingly many people couldn't do it.

Ja üllatavalt paljud inimesed ei saanud sellega hakkama.

I think I, I think I saw that actually.

Ma arvan, et ma nägin seda tegelikult.

Did you?

Kas sa tegid?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jah.

Jah.

And some people, I think that was it, the YouTuber himself, he could

Ja mõned inimesed, ma arvan, et see oli see, YouTuber ise, ta võiks

do it for a couple minutes or something, but most people couldn't.

seda teha paar minutit või midagi, kuid enamik inimesi ei suutnud.

Yeah, he did, he did like 21 pull-ups or something.

Jah, ta tegi, talle meeldis 21 jõutõmmet või midagi sellist.

He was like, um, he'd trained in the Marines or something.

Ta oli nagu mereväes väljaõppe saanud või midagi sellist.

It made me then want to go and do some pull-ups.

See tekitas minus siis tahtmise minna tõmbeid tegema.

I think I could do, like, I could probably do like two or something.

Ma arvan, et ma võiksin teha, nagu, ma võiksin teha nagu kaks või midagi.

I'm not, I'm not very good, but I sometimes try at the gym I

Ma ei ole, ma ei ole väga hea, aga vahel proovin jõusaalis, kus käin

go to, they've got a bar but I want to get better at that too.

, neil on baar, aga ma tahan ka selles paremaks saada.

One is easy, two is a struggle.

Üks on lihtne, kaks on võitlus.

Then after that, it, you know, it depends.

Siis pärast seda, see, teate, see sõltub.

When I was climbing, I could do a lot more pull-ups than, than I can now, and that's

Kui ma ronisin, suutsin teha palju rohkem jõutõmbeid kui praegu, ja see on

just because I'm not climbing very much.

lihtsalt sellepärast, et ma ei roni eriti palju.

You do get a good bit of upper body strength with squash, and you certainly

Küll saab squashiga hästi ülakeha jõudu ja kindlasti

do with gymnastics, but during lockdown, I was pregnant with my second son,

võimlemisega, aga sulu ajal olin rase oma teisest pojast

and I put on four stone with my second pregnancy, which will mean nothing

ja teise rasedusega panin neli kivi peale, mis ei tähenda

to you probably, but it's a lot.

sulle ilmselt midagi. , aga seda on palju.

Usually you should put on about two stone with a pregnancy.

Tavaliselt peaksite rasedusega panema umbes kaks kivi.

So I put on four, and that's because it was locked down.

Nii et ma panin selga neli ja see on sellepärast, et see oli lukus.

I couldn't go anywhere.

Ma ei saanud kuhugi minna.

I couldn't measure myself.

Ma ei saanud ennast mõõta.

I had no way of weighing myself, so I had no clue about my weight gain really.

Mul polnud võimalust end kaaluda, nii et mul polnud aimugi oma kaalutõusust.

And so when I had my child, and then I came back to my sports,

Ja nii siis, kui sain lapse ja siis tulin tagasi oma spordiala juurde,

which was gymnastics and squash.

milleks oli võimlemine ja squash.

I had terrible knees because I'd gained all this weight.

Mul olid kohutavad põlved, sest olin kogu selle kaalu juurde võtnud.

And it took me a lot longer to lose it.

Ja selle kaotamiseks kulus mul palju rohkem aega.

And then all my muscles and my joints just weren't happy.

Ja siis ei olnud kõik mu lihased ja liigesed õnnelikud.

So yeah, getting back into climbing and gymnastics still hasn't yet happened.

Nii et jah, ronimise ja võimlemise juurde tagasi jõudmist pole ikka veel juhtunud.

I'm back, I'm fully back with my squash, but it's a long road.

Ma olen tagasi, ma olen oma squashiga täielikult tagasi, kuid see on pikk tee.

It's a long road back to previous levels of fitness.

See on pikk tee tagasi varasemale vormisoleku tasemele.

Yeah, you can get back there, but I think it's so much easier to lose health

Jah, sa saad sinna tagasi, aga ma arvan, et tervist on palju lihtsam kaotada

than it is to gain it back, isn't it?

kui seda tagasi saada, kas pole?

It takes a lot longer to regain muscle or lose fat.

Lihaste taastamiseks või rasva kaotamiseks kulub palju rohkem aega.

It's, it's a shame how that works.

See on kahju, kuidas see töötab.

Yeah.

My mum used to say, when I was eating biscuits she'd say "A minute on the lips,

Jah. Mu ema ütles, et kui ma küpsiseid sõin, ütles ta "hetk huultel,

a lifetime on the hips", thanks, mum.

eluaeg puusadel", aitäh, ema.

Just before this podcast, I was feeling a bit peckish, a bit

Vahetult enne seda taskuhäälingusaadet tundsin end veidi nokitsevana, natuke

hungry, so I picked up some cookies, some biscuits, and I was like...

näljasena, nii et võtsin mõned küpsised, küpsised ja olin nagu...

I put it down and had like a handful of nuts instead.

panin selle käest ja võtsin hoopis peotäie pähkleid.

So I feel good about my morning.

Nii et ma tunnen end oma hommikust hästi.

Well done.

Hästi tehtud.

Well done.

We...

Hästi tehtud.

Me...

see this, this tin behind us is full of ginger snap biscuits.

vaata seda, see plekk meie taga on täis ingveriküpsiseid.

My in-laws keep buying us these same tins 'cause we were

Minu äiad ostavad meile pidevalt neid samu konserve, sest me ütlesime:

like, "oh, they're amazing".

"Oi, need on hämmastavad".

But I really wish they wouldn't because I just can't stop eating them.

Aga ma tõesti soovin, et nad seda ei teeks, sest ma lihtsalt ei suuda nende söömist lõpetada.

It's terrible, especially when it's cold.

See on kohutav, eriti kui on külm.

Next time I'm in Cornwall, you'll have to tell me where I can go to have

Järgmine kord, kui ma Cornwallis olen, peate mulle ütlema, kuhu ma võin minna, et teha

a good walk or a scramble perhaps.

hea jalutuskäik või võib-olla rüselus.

Yeah,

likewise.

Jah, samamoodi.

When I'm in Surrey, I don't think I've been to Surrey before.

Kui ma olen Surreys, siis ma ei usu, et oleksin Surreys varem käinud.

I'm not sure.

So we'll have to let each other know.

Ma pole kindel.

Nii et me peame üksteisele teada andma.

Yeah,

Jah,

yeah, absolutely.

jah, absoluutselt.

Well, thank you so much.

Noh, suur tänu.

Can you let the listeners and viewers know where they can find you?

Kas saate kuulajatele ja vaatajatele teada anda, kust nad teid leida võivad?

Of course.

So there's Level Up English Podcast.

Muidugi.

Nii et seal on Level Up inglise taskuhääling.

My website is Levelupenglish.school, and you'll find me as well

Minu veebisait on Levelupenglish.school ja te leiate ka mind

on YouTube, Instagram.

YouTube'is, Instagramis.

Yeah.

Fantastic.

Jah. Fantastiline.

Thank you everyone for listening.

Tänan teid kõiki kuulamast.

Take care and bye.

Hoolitse ja hüvasti.

Bye everyone.

Hüvasti kõigile.

Thank you for listening to today's podcast.

Täname, et kuulasite tänast podcasti.

Don't forget that if you want to join my club to download the transcripts,

Ärge unustage, et kui soovite liituda minu klubiga, et alla laadida üleskirjutused,

become part of an online community, and to take part in some live,

saada osa võrgukogukonnast ja osaleda mõnes reaalajas,

face-to-face conversation classes.

näost näkku vestluse klassis.

Then check out my Conversation Club by clicking on the link.

Seejärel vaadake minu vestlusklubi, klõpsates lingil.

There'll also be links to Michael's podcast, website and YouTube

Kirjelduses on ka lingid Michaeli podcasti, veebisaidi ja YouTube'i

channel down in the description.

kanalile.

Until next time everyone, take care and goodbye.

Kuni järgmise korrani, olge kõik ettevaatlikud ja hüvasti.