Bunker Roy: Learning from a barefoot movement

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Translator: Iñigo Salvador Azurmendi Reviewer: Alvaro Moya
00:15
I'd like to take you to another world.
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Beste mundu batera eraman nahi zintuzketet.
00:19
And I'd like to share
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Eta partekatu nahi nuke
00:21
a 45 year-old love story
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45 urteko maitasun istorio bat,
00:25
with the poor,
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txiroekiko,
00:28
living on less than one dollar a day.
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egunean dolar bat baino gutxiagorekin bizi direnekiko.
00:33
I went to a very elitist, snobbish,
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Heziketa oso elitista, harroputza,
00:37
expensive education in India,
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garestia jaso nuen Indian,
00:41
and that almost destroyed me.
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eta hark ia hondatu ninduen.
00:46
I was all set
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Prest nengoen
00:48
to be a diplomat, teacher, doctor --
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diplomatiko, irakasle, sendagile izateko --
00:51
all laid out.
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dena prest zegoen.
00:55
Then, I don't look it, but I was the Indian national squash champion
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Garai hartan, ez dut ematen, baino Indiako squash txapeldun nazionala
00:58
for three years.
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izan nintzen hiru urtez.
01:00
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
01:02
The whole world was laid out for me.
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Mundu osoa zegoen neuretzako prest.
01:05
Everything was at my feet.
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Guztia zegoen neure oinetara.
01:07
I could do nothing wrong.
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Ezin nuen ezer gaizki egin.
01:10
And then I thought out of curiosity
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Eta orduan jakin-minez pentsatu nuen
01:12
I'd like to go and live and work
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gustatuko litzaidakeela herrixka batera bizitzera joan,
01:14
and just see what a village is like.
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bertan lan egin eta nolakoa den ikustea.
01:16
So in 1965,
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Beraz 1965ean,
01:18
I went to what was called the worst Bihar famine in India,
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Indiako Bihar lurraldeko gosete handiena deitu zitzaionera joan nintzen,
01:22
and I saw starvation, death,
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eta gosea ikusi nuen, heriotza,
01:25
people dying of hunger, for the first time.
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jendea gosez hiltzen, lehenengo aldiz.
01:28
It changed my life.
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Hark neure bizitza aldatu zuen.
01:31
I came back home,
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Etxera itzuli nintzen,
01:33
told my mother,
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ene amari esan nion,
01:35
"I'd like to live and work in a village."
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"Herrixka batean bizi eta lan egin nahi nuke."
01:38
Mother went into a coma.
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Ama koman sartu zen.
01:40
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
01:43
"What is this?
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"Zer da hau?
01:45
The whole world is laid out for you, the best jobs are laid out for you,
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Mundu osoa zure eskura dago, lanpostu onenak zure eskura daude,
01:48
and you want to go and work in a village?
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eta herrixka batera joan eta bertan lan egin nahi duzula?
01:50
I mean, is there something wrong with you?"
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Esan nahi dut, zugan zer edo zer gaizki dago?"
01:52
I said, "No, I've got the best eduction.
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Esan nion, "Ez, heziketa onena jaso dut.
01:54
It made me think.
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Pentsatu arazi dit.
01:56
And I wanted to give something back
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Eta trukean, neure erara,
01:59
in my own way."
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zerbait itzuli nahi nuke."
02:01
"What do you want to do in a village?
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"Zer egin nahi duzu herrixka batean?
02:03
No job, no money,
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Lanposturik ez, dirurik ez,
02:05
no security, no prospect."
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segurtasunik ez, etorkizunik ez."
02:07
I said, "I want to live
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Esan nion, "Han bizi
02:09
and dig wells for five years."
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eta putzuak zulatu nahi ditut bost urtez."
02:12
"Dig wells for five years?
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"Putzuak zulatu bost urtez?
02:14
You went to the most expensive school and college in India,
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Indiako eskola eta unibertsitate garestienetara joan zara,
02:17
and you want to dig wells for five years?"
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eta bost urtez putzuak zulatu nahi dituzula?"
02:19
She didn't speak to me for a very long time,
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Denbora oso luzez ez zidan hitz egin,
02:23
because she thought I'd let my family down.
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uste zuelako neure familiari huts egin niola.
02:28
But then,
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Baino orduan,
02:30
I was exposed to the most extraordinary knowledge and skills
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jende oso txiroak dituen ezagutza eta trebetasun txundigarrienak
02:33
that very poor people have,
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agerian jarri zitzaizkidan,
02:35
which are never brought into the mainstream --
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gainazalera sekula ekartzen ez direnak --
02:38
which is never identified, respected,
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sekula modu zabalean identifikatu, errespetatu,
02:40
applied on a large scale.
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erabiltzen ez direnak.
02:42
And I thought I'd start a Barefoot College --
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Eta pentsatu nuen Oinustuen Unibertsitate bat sortuko nuela --
02:44
college only for the poor.
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txiroentzako soilik izango zen unibertsitatea.
02:46
What the poor thought was important
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Txiroek garrantzitsua zela uste zutena
02:48
would be reflected in the college.
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islatuko zen unibertsitatean.
02:52
I went to this village for the first time.
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Herrixka honetara joan nintzen lehenengo aldiz.
02:54
Elders came to me
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Zaharrak etorri zitzaizkidan
02:56
and said, "Are you running from the police?"
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eta esan zidaten, "Poliziarengandik ihesi zatoz?"
02:58
I said, "No."
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Esan nien, "Ez."
03:00
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
03:04
"You failed in your exam?"
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"Zure azterketan huts egin duzu?"
03:06
I said, "No."
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Esan nien, "Ez."
03:08
"You didn't get a government job?" I said, "No."
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"Ez duzu gobernuaren lanpostu bat eskuratu?" Esan nien, "Ez."
03:11
"What are you doing here?
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"Zer egiten duzu hemen?
03:13
Why are you here?
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Zergatik zaude hemen?
03:15
The education system in India
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Indiako hezkuntza sistemak
03:17
makes you look at Paris and New Delhi and Zurich;
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Paris eta New Delhi eta Zurich-era begiratzera bultzatzen zaitu;
03:20
what are you doing in this village?
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zer egiten duzu herrixka honetan?
03:22
Is there something wrong with you you're not telling us?"
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Ba al dago esaten ez diguzun zer edo zer gaizki zurekiko?"
03:25
I said, "No, I want to actually start a college
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Esan nien, "Ez, unibertsitate bat sortu nahi dut
03:28
only for the poor.
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txiroentzako soilik.
03:30
What the poor thought was important would be reflected in the college."
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Txiroek garrantzitsua dela uste dutena islatuko litzateke unibertsitatean."
03:33
So the elders gave me some very sound and profound advice.
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Hala zaharrek aholku zuhur eta sakon batzuk eman zizkidaten.
03:37
They said, "Please,
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Esan zidaten, "Mesedez,
03:39
don't bring anyone with a degree and qualification
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ez ekarri gradu bat eta titulua duen inor
03:42
into your college."
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zure unibertsitatera."
03:44
So it's the only college in India
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Horregatik Indiako unibertsitate bakarra da
03:47
where, if you should have a Ph.D. or a Master's,
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non, Doktoretza edo Master bat izan ezkero,
03:50
you are disqualified to come.
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etortzeko desgaituta zaudena.
03:52
You have to be a cop-out or a wash-out or a dropout
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Desastre bat izan behar duzu, porrot egindakoa, baztertua
03:57
to come to our college.
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gure unibertsitatera etortzeko.
04:00
You have to work with your hands.
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Zure eskuekin lan egin behar duzu.
04:02
You have to have a dignity of labor.
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Lanaren duintasuna izan behar duzu.
04:04
You have to show that you have a skill that you can offer to the community
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Komunitateari eskaintzeko trebetasun bat daukazula erakutsi behar duzu
04:07
and provide a service to the community.
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eta komunitateari zerbitzu bat eskaini.
04:10
So we started the Barefoot College,
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Hala sortu genuen Oinustuen Unibertsitatea,
04:13
and we redefined professionalism.
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eta profesionaltasuna birdefinitu genuen.
04:15
Who is a professional?
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Nor da profesional bat?
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A professional is someone
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Profesional bat da
04:19
who has a combination of competence,
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trebetasun, ziurtasun eta sinesmen
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confidence and belief.
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konbinazioa daukan norbait.
04:24
A water diviner is a professional.
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Ur-bilatzaile bat profesional bat da.
04:27
A traditional midwife
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Emagin tradizional bat
04:29
is a professional.
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profesional bat da.
04:31
A traditional bone setter is a professional.
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Hezur-konpontzaile tradizional bat profesional bat da.
04:34
These are professionals all over the world.
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Hauek mundu osoan zehar profesionalak dira.
04:36
You find them in any inaccessible village around the world.
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Munduan zehar dauden herrixka helezinetan aurkitzen dituzu.
04:40
And we thought that these people should come into the mainstream
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Eta pentsatu genuen jende hau gainazalera atera behar zela
04:43
and show that the knowledge and skills that they have
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eta erakutsi beraiek dituzten ezagutza eta trebetasunak
04:46
is universal.
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unibertsalak direla.
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It needs to be used, needs to be applied,
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Erabili beharra dago, aplikatu beharra dago,
04:50
needs to be shown to the world outside --
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kanpoko munduari erakutsi behar zaio --
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that these knowledge and skills
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ezagutza eta trebetasun hauek
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are relevant even today.
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beharrezkoak direla gaur egun ere.
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So the college works
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Beraz unibertsitatearen jarduerak
05:00
following the lifestyle and workstyle of Mahatma Gandhi.
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Mahatma Gandhi-ren bizimodua eta lan egiteko modua jarraitzen ditu.
05:04
You eat on the floor, you sleep on the floor, you work on the floor.
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Lurzoruan jaten duzu, lurzoruan lo egiten duzu, lurzoruan lan egiten duzu.
05:08
There are no contracts, no written contracts.
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Ez dago kontraturik, ez idatzizko kontraturik.
05:10
You can stay with me for 20 years, go tomorrow.
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Neurekin 20 urtez egon zaitezke edo bihar alde egin.
05:13
And no one can get more than $100 a month.
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Eta inork ezin du hileko 100$ baino gehiago irabazi.
05:16
You come for the money, you don't come to Barefoot College.
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Diruagatik bazatoz, ez etorri Oinustuen Unibertsitatera.
05:19
You come for the work and the challenge,
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Lanagatik eta erronkagatik bazatoz,
05:21
you'll come to the Barefoot College.
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etorriko zara Oinustuen Unibertsitatera.
05:23
That is where we want you to try crazy ideas.
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Hor nahi dugu ideia zoroak probatu ditzazun.
05:26
Whatever idea you have, come and try it.
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Edozein ideia duzula, etorri eta probatu.
05:28
It doesn't matter if you fail.
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Ez du axola huts egiten baduzu.
05:30
Battered, bruised, you start again.
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Kolpatua, min-hartuta, berriz hasten zera.
05:33
It's the only college where the teacher is the learner
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Unibertsitate bakarra da irakaslea ikasle duena
05:36
and the learner is the teacher.
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eta ikaslea irakasle duena.
05:39
And it's the only college where we don't give a certificate.
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Eta unibertsitate bakarra da ziurtagiririk ematen ez duguna.
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You are certified by the community you serve.
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Zerbitzu ematen diozun komunitateak ematen dizu ziurtagiria.
05:45
You don't need a paper to hang on the wall
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Ez duzu behar paper bat horman zintzilik
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to show that you are an engineer.
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injineru zarela erakusteko.
05:52
So when I said that,
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Hala, hori esan nuenean,
05:54
they said, "Well show us what is possible. What are you doing?
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esan zidaten, "Ondo da erakutsiguzu zer egin daitekeen. Zer egiten ari zara?
05:57
This is all mumbo-jumbo if you can't show it on the ground."
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Hau guztia hutsaren hurrengoa da ezin baduzu praktikan erakutsi."
06:01
So we built the first Barefoot College
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Hala, Oinustuen lehen Unibertsitatea sortu genuen
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in 1986.
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1986an.
06:07
It was built by 12 Barefoot architects
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12 arkitekto Oinustuk eraiki zuten
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who can't read and write,
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irakurtzen eta idaten ez dakitenak,
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built on $1.50 a sq. ft.
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oin karratuko 1,50$etan eraikia.
06:14
150 people lived there, worked there.
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150 pertsona bizi ziren eta lan egiten zuten bertan.
06:18
They got the Aga Khan Award for Architecture in 2002.
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2002ko Aga Khan arkitektura saria lortu zuten.
06:21
But then they suspected, they thought there was an architect behind it.
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Baino gero susmoa izan zuten, pentsatu zuten haren atzean arkitekto bat zegoela.
06:24
I said, "Yes, they made the blueprints,
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Esan nuen, "Bai, aurreproiektua egin zuten,
06:26
but the Barefoot architects actually constructed the college."
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baino arkitekto Oinustuak izan ziren benetan unibertsitatea eraiki zutenak."
06:31
We are the only ones who actually returned the award for $50,000,
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Bakarrak gara 50.000$eko saria itzuli dugunak,
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because they didn't believe us,
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ez zigutelako sinisten,
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and we thought that they were actually casting aspersions
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eta pentsatu genuelako Tiloniako arkitekto Oinustuak
06:40
on the Barefoot architects of Tilonia.
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zalantzan jartzen ari zirela.
06:43
I asked a forester --
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Basogintzan aritzen den bati galdetu nion --
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high-powered, paper-qualified expert --
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boteretsua, paper bidez kualifikatutako aditua --
06:48
I said, "What can you build in this place?"
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Esan nion, "Zer eraiki dezakezu leku honetan?"
06:51
He had one look at the soil and said, "Forget it. No way.
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Lurzoruari begiratu eta esan zuen, "Ahaztu. Ezin daiteke.
06:53
Not even worth it.
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Ez du merezi ere.
06:55
No water, rocky soil."
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Urik ez, lurzoru harritsua."
06:57
I was in a bit of a spot.
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Estualdi batean nengoen."
06:59
And I said, "Okay, I'll go to the old man in village
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Eta esan nuen, "Ondo, herrixkako gizon zaharrarengana joango naiz
07:01
and say, 'What should I grow in this spot?'"
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eta esan, 'Zer hazi beharko nuke leku honetan?'"
07:04
He looked quietly at me and said,
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Isilean begiratu zidan eta esan zuen.
07:06
"You build this, you build this, you put this, and it'll work."
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"Hau eraiki, hau eraiki, hau ipini, eta ondo irtengo da."
07:08
This is what it looks like today.
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Hau da gaur egun duen itxura.
07:12
Went to the roof,
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Teilatura joan nintzen,
07:14
and all the women said, "Clear out.
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eta emakume guztiek esan zuten, "Alde hemendik.
07:16
The men should clear out because we don't want to share this technology with the men.
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Gizonek alde egin behar dute ez dugulako teknologia hau gizonekin partekatu nahi.
07:19
This is waterproofing the roof."
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Hau teilatua iragazgaiztea da."
07:21
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
07:23
It is a bit of jaggery, a bit of urens
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Jaggery pixka bat [Azukre beltz latza], urens pixka bat [landare bat]
07:26
and a bit of other things I don't know.
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eta ez dakidan beste gauza batzuk.
07:28
But it actually doesn't leak.
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Baino benetan ez du isuririk.
07:30
Since 1986, it hasn't leaked.
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1986tik ez du isuririk izan.
07:33
This technology, the women will not share with the men.
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Teknologia hau, emakumeek ez dute gizonekin partekatuko.
07:36
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
07:39
It's the only college
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Unibertsitate bakarra da
07:41
which is fully solar-electrified.
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erabat eguzkiz-elektrifikatua.
07:45
All the power comes from the sun.
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Energia guztia eguzkitik dator.
07:47
45 kilowatts of panels on the roof.
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45 kilowatt sortzeko panelak teilatuan.
07:49
And everything works off the sun for the next 25 years.
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Eta guztia ibiliko da eguzkiari esker hurrengo 25 urteetan.
07:51
So long as the sun shines,
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Eguzkiak argitzen duen bitartean,
07:53
we'll have no problem with power.
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ez dugu energia arazorik izango.
07:55
But the beauty is
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Baino politena da
07:57
that is was installed
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apaiz batek instalatu
08:00
by a priest, a Hindu priest,
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zuela, apaiz Hindu batek,
08:03
who's only done eight years of primary schooling --
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soilik lehen hezkuntzako zortzi urte egin dituena --
08:06
never been to school, never been to college.
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sekula eskolan, sekula unibertsitatean izan gabea.
08:09
He knows more about solar
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Eguzki energiari buruz gehiago daki
08:11
than anyone I know anywhere in the world guaranteed.
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munduko beste lekuetan ezagutu dudan inork baino, zinez.
08:17
Food, if you come to the Barefoot College,
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Janaria, Oinustuen Eskolara etortzen bazara,
08:19
is solar cooked.
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eguzki-energiarekin prestatzen da.
08:22
But the people who fabricated that solar cooker
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Baino eguzki-sukalde hori fabrikatu zuen jendea
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are women,
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emakumeak dira,
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illiterate women,
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alfabetatu gabeko emakumeak,
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who actually fabricate
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eguzki-sukalde sofistikatuena
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the most sophisticated solar cooker.
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fabrikatzen dutenak.
08:34
It's a parabolic Scheffler solar cooker.
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Scheffler eguzki-sukalde paraboliko bat da.
08:40
Unfortunately, they're almost half German,
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Tamalez, ia-ia erdi Alemaniarrak dira,
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they're so precise.
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hain dira zehatzak.
08:46
(Laughter)
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You'll never find Indian women so precise.
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Ez duzu inoiz aurkituko Indiako emakume hain zehatzik.
08:52
Absolutely to the last inch,
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Azken hazbeteraino,
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they can make that cooker.
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sukalde hori egin dezakete.
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And we have 60 meals twice a day
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Eta 60 otordu dauzkagu egunean bitan
08:58
of solar cooking.
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eguzkiarekin prestatuak.
09:00
We have a dentist --
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Haginlari bat daukagu --
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she's a grandmother, illiterate, who's a dentist.
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amona bat da, alfabetatu gabea, haginlaria dena.
09:05
She actually looks after the teeth
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7.000 umeren hortzak
09:07
of 7,000 children.
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zaintzen ditu.
09:11
Barefoot technology:
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Oinustuen teknologia:
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this was 1986 -- no engineer, no architect thought of it --
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hau 1986koa da -- ez injineruk, ez arkitektok ez zuen honi buruz pentsatu --
09:16
but we are collecting rainwater from the roofs.
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baino teilatuetatik euri-ura jasotzen ari gara.
09:19
Very little water is wasted.
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Oso ur gutxi galtzen da alferrik.
09:21
All the roofs are connected underground
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Teilatu guztiak daude konektatuta lur azpian
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to a 400,000 liter tank,
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400.000 litroko tanke batera,
09:25
and no water is wasted.
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eta ez da urik alferrik galtzen.
09:27
If we have four years of drought, we still have water on the campus,
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Lau urteko lehortea izaten badugu, ura izango genuke campusean,
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because we collect rainwater.
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euri ura jasotzen dugulako.
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60 percent of children don't go to school,
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Umeen ehuneko 60 ez da eskolara joaten,
09:35
because they have to look after animals --
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abereak zaindu behar dituztelako --
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sheep, goats --
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ardiak, ahuntzak --
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domestic chores.
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etxeko zereginak.
09:41
So we thought of starting a school
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Horregatik pentsatu genuen umeentzako
09:44
at night for the children.
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gau-eskola bat sortzea.
09:46
Because the night schools of Tilonia,
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Tiloniako gau-eskolei esker,
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over 75,000 children have gone through these night schools.
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75.000 ume baino gehiago pasatu da gau-eskola hauetatik.
09:51
Because it's for the convenience of the child;
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Umeen erosotasunerako delako;
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it's not for the convenience of the teacher.
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ez da irakaslearen erosotasunerako.
09:55
And what do we teach in these schools?
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Eta zer erakusten dugu eskola hauetan?
09:57
Democracy, citizenship,
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Demokrazia, herritartasuna,
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how you should measure your land,
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nola neurtu zure lur saila,
10:02
what you should do if you're arrested,
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zer egin behar zenuke atxilotzen bazaituzte,
10:04
what you should do if your animal is sick.
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zer egin behar zenuke zure aberea gaixo badago.
10:08
This is what we teach in the night schools.
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Hau da gau-eskoletan erakusten duguna.
10:10
But all the schools are solar-lit.
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Baino eskola guztiak eguzki-energiarekin argitzen dira.
10:13
Every five years
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Bost urtero
10:15
we have an election.
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hauteskunde bat daukagu.
10:17
Between six to 14 year-old children
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Sei eta 14 urte bitarteko umeek
10:21
participate in a democratic process,
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prozesu demokratiko batean parte hartzen dute,
10:24
and they elect a prime minister.
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eta lehen ministro bat hautatzen dute.
10:28
The prime minister is 12 years old.
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Lehen ministroak 12 urte ditu.
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She looks after 20 goats in the morning,
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Goizez 20 ahuntz zaintzen ditu,
10:34
but she's prime minister in the evening.
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baino lehen ministroa da arratsaldez.
10:37
She has a cabinet,
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Kabinete bat dauka,
10:39
a minister of education, a minister for energy, a minister for health.
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hezkuntza ministro bat, energia ministro bat, osasun ministro bat.
10:42
And they actually monitor and supervise
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Eta beraiek zaindu eta ikuskatzen dituzte
10:44
150 schools for 7,000 children.
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150 eskola eta 7.000 ume.
10:49
She got the World's Children's Prize five years ago,
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Munduko Umeen Saria jaso zuen duela bost urte,
10:51
and she went to Sweden.
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eta Suediara joan zen.
10:53
First time ever going out of her village.
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Bere herrixkatik irteten zen lehen aldia.
10:55
Never seen Sweden.
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Suedia inoiz ikusi gabe.
10:58
Wasn't dazzled at all by what was happening.
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Gertatzen ari zenarekin ez zegoen batere liluratuta.
11:00
And the Queen of Sweden, who's there,
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Eta Suediako Erregina, hor dago,
11:02
turned to me and said, "Can you ask this child where she got her confidence from?
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nigana biratu eta esan zidan, "Galdetu diezaiokezu ume honi nondik eskuratu duen konfiantza?
11:05
She's only 12 years old,
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12 urte besterik ez du,
11:07
and she's not dazzled by anything."
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eta ez du ezerk liluratu."
11:10
And the girl, who's on her left,
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Eta neskatoa, bere ezkerrean dago,
11:13
turned to me and looked at the queen straight in the eye
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nigana biratu eta erreginari zuzen begiratu zion begietara
11:16
and said, "Please tell her I'm the prime minister."
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eta esan zuen, "Mesedez esaiozu lehen ministroa naizela."
11:19
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
11:21
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
11:29
Where the percentage of illiteracy is very high,
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Alfabetatze gabeziaren ehunekoa oso handia den tokietan,
11:33
we use puppetry.
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txotxongiloak erabiltzen ditugu.
11:36
Puppets is the way we communicate.
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Txotxongiloak dira gure komunikatzeko era.
11:45
You have Jokhim Chacha
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Hau Jokhim Chacha duzue
11:48
who is 300 years old.
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300 urte dituena.
11:52
He is my psychoanalyst. He is my teacher.
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Neure psikoanalista da. Neure irakaslea da.
11:55
He's my doctor. He's my lawyer.
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Neure sendagilea da. Neure abokatua da.
11:57
He's my donor.
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Neure emailea da.
11:59
He actually raises money,
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Diru kopurua handitzen du,
12:01
solves my disputes.
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neure liskarrak konpontzen ditu.
12:04
He solves my problems in the village.
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Herrixkan ditudan arazoak konpontzen ditu.
12:07
If there's tension in the village,
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Herrixkan tirabira badago,
12:09
if attendance at the schools goes down
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eskolara joateak behera egiten badu
12:11
and there's a friction between the teacher and the parent,
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eta irakasle eta gurasoaren artean desadostasuna badago,
12:13
the puppet calls the teacher and the parent in front of the whole village
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txotxongiloak irakaslea eta gurasoa deitzen ditu herri osoaren aurrera
12:16
and says, "Shake hands.
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eta esaten du, "Eman bostekoa.
12:18
The attendance must not drop."
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Ez zaio eskolara joateari utzi behar."
12:22
These puppets
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Txotxongilo hauek
12:24
are made out of recycled World Bank reports.
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Munduko Bankuaren txosten birziklatuekin eginak daude.
12:26
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
12:28
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
12:35
So this decentralized, demystified approach
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Herrixkak eguzkiz-elektrifikatzeko zentralizatu gabeko,
12:39
of solar-electrifying villages,
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desmitifikatutako hurbilketa honekin,
12:41
we've covered all over India
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India osoa estali dugu
12:43
from Ladakh up to Bhutan --
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Ladakh-etik Bhutan-eraino --
12:48
all solar-electrified villages
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herrixka guztiak eguzkiz-elektrifikatuta
12:50
by people who have been trained.
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trebatua izan den jendeak egina.
12:54
And we went to Ladakh,
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Eta Ladakh-era joan ginen,
12:56
and we asked this woman --
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eta emakume honi galdetu genion --
12:58
this, at minus 40, you have to come out of the roof,
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hau, 40 gradu zero azpitik, teilatupetik irten behar duzu,
13:01
because there's no place, it was all snowed up on both sides --
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ez dagoelako lekurik, elurtuta zegoen bi aldeetan --
13:04
and we asked this woman,
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eta emakume honi galdetu genion,
13:06
"What was the benefit you had
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"Zein da eguzkiaren elektrizitatetik
13:08
from solar electricity?"
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jaso duzun onura?"
13:10
And she thought for a minute and said,
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Eta minutu batez pentsatu eta esan zuen,
13:12
"It's the first time I can see my husband's face in winter."
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"Lehen aldia da neguan neure senarraren aurpegia ikusi dezakedana."
13:16
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
13:19
Went to Afghanistan.
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Afganistanera joan nintzen.
13:21
One lesson we learned in India
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Indian ikasi genuen irakaspen bat da
13:26
was men are untrainable.
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gizonak trebatzea ezinezkoa dela.
13:30
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
13:34
Men are restless,
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Gizonak geldigorrak dira,
13:36
men are ambitious,
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handinahiak,
13:38
men are compulsively mobile,
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jokabide konpultsiboa dute,
13:41
and they all want a certificate.
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eta guztiek nahi dute ziurtagiri bat.
13:43
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
13:45
All across the globe, you have this tendency
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Mundu osoan zehar, joera hau daukazu
13:48
of men wanting a certificate.
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gizonek ziurtagiria nahi izatearena.
13:50
Why? Because they want to leave the village
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Zergatik? Herrixka utzi nahi dutelako
13:53
and go to a city, looking for a job.
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hirira joateko, lanpostu bila.
13:56
So we came up with a great solution:
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Horrela iritsi ginen konponbide bikain batera:
13:59
train grandmothers.
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amonak trebatu.
14:03
What's the best way of communicating
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Zein da komunikatzeko modurik onena
14:05
in the world today?
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gaur egun munduan?
14:07
Television? No.
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Telebista? Ez.
14:09
Telegraph? No.
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Telegrafoa? Ez.
14:11
Telephone? No.
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Telefonoa? Ez.
14:13
Tell a woman.
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Esan emakume bati.
14:15
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
14:18
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
14:22
So we went to Afghanistan for the first time,
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Horrela, Afganistanera joan ginen lehengoz,
14:24
and we picked three women
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eta hiru emakume aukeratu genituen
14:26
and said, "We want to take them to India."
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eta esan genien, "Indiara eraman nahi ditugu."
14:28
They said, "Impossible. They don't even go out of their rooms,
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Esan zuten, "Ezinezkoa. Ez dira beraien geletatik ere kanpora joaten,
14:30
and you want to take them to India."
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eta Indiara eraman nahi dituzu."
14:32
I said, "I'll make a concession. I'll take the husbands along as well."
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Esan nien, "Kontzesio bat egingo dut. Senarrak ere eramango ditut."
14:34
So I took the husbands along.
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Horrela, senarrak ere eraman nituen.
14:36
Of course, the women were much more intelligent than the men.
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Emakumeak gizonak baino askoz azkarragoak ziren, noski.
14:39
In six months,
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Sei hilabetetan,
14:41
how do we train these women?
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nola trebatzen ditugu emakume hauek?
14:44
Sign language.
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Zeinuen hizkuntza.
14:46
You don't choose the written word.
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Ez duzu idatzitako hitza aukeratzen.
14:49
You don't choose the spoken word.
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Ez duzu mintzatutako hitza aukeratzen.
14:51
You use sign language.
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Zeinuen hizkuntza erabiltzen duzu.
14:54
And in six months
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Eta sei hilabetetan
14:56
they can become solar engineers.
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eguzki injineru bilakatu daitezke.
15:00
They go back and solar-electrify their own village.
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Itzuli egiten dira eta beraien herrixka eguzkiz-elektrifikatzen dute.
15:03
This woman went back
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Emakume hau itzuli zen
15:05
and solar-electrified the first village,
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eta lehen herrixka eguzkiz-elektrifikatu zuen,
15:08
set up a workshop --
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lantegi bat antolatu zuen --
15:10
the first village ever to be solar-electrified in Afghanistan
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Afganistanen eguzkiz-elektrifikatutako lehen herrixka
15:13
[was] by the three women.
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hiru emakumek egin zuten.
15:16
This woman
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Emakume hau
15:18
is an extraordinary grandmother.
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ezohiko amona bat da.
15:20
55 years old, and she's solar-electrified 200 houses for me in Afghanistan.
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55 urte ditu, eta neuretzako 200 etxebizitza eguzkiz-elektrifikatu ditu Afganistanen.
15:25
And they haven't collapsed.
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Eta ez dira behera erori.
15:28
She actually went and spoke to an engineering department in Afghanistan
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Emakume hau Afganistango injinerutza departamentu batera joan eta hitz egin zuen
15:31
and told the head of the department
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eta departamentu buruari esan zion
15:33
the difference between AC and DC.
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AC eta DC arteko ezberdintasuna.
15:35
He didn't know.
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Berak (gizonak) ez zekien.
15:37
Those three women have trained 27 more women
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Hiru emakume horiek beste 27 emakume trebatu dituzte
15:40
and solar-electrified 100 villages in Afghanistan.
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eta 100 herrixka eguzkiz-elektrifikatu dituzte Afganistanen.
15:43
We went to Africa,
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Afrikara joan ginen,
15:46
and we did the same thing.
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eta gauza bera egin genuen.
15:48
All these women sitting at one table from eight, nine countries,
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Emakume guzti hauek mahai batean eserita, zortzi, bederatzi herrialdetakoak,
15:51
all chatting to each other, not understanding a word,
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guztiak elkarri hitz egiten, hitz bakarra ulertu gabe,
15:54
because they're all speaking a different language.
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guztiek hizkuntza ezberdina hitz egiten dutelako.
15:56
But their body language is great.
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Baino beraien gorputz hizkuntza bikaina da.
15:58
They're speaking to each other
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Elkarri hitz egiten ari dira
16:00
and actually becoming solar engineers.
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eta eguzki injineruak bihurtzen.
16:02
I went to Sierra Leone,
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Sierra Leonara joan nintzen,
16:05
and there was this minister driving down in the dead of night --
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eta ministro hau ari zen gidatzen gauaren erdian --
16:08
comes across this village.
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herrixka zeharkatzen du.
16:10
Comes back, goes into the village, says, "Well what's the story?"
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Atzera itzuli, herrixkara joan eta esaten du, "Bueno zein da istorioa?"
16:13
They said, "These two grandmothers ... "
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Esan zuten, "Bi amona hauek... "
16:15
"Grandmothers?" The minister couldn't believe what was happening.
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"Amonak?" Ministroak ezin zuen sinistu gertatzen ari zena.
16:18
"Where did they go?" "Went to India and back."
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"Nora joan ziren?" "Indiara joan eta itzuli ziren."
16:21
Went straight to the president.
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Presidentearengana joan zen zuzenean.
16:23
He said, "Do you know there's a solar-electrified village in Sierra Leone?"
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Esan zion, "Badakizu eguzkiz-elektrifikatutako herrixka bat dagoela Sierra Leonan?
16:25
He said, "No." Half the cabinet went to see the grandmothers the next day.
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Esan zuen, "Ez." Kabinete erdia joan zen hurrengo egunean amonak ikustera.
16:28
"What's the story."
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"Zein da istorioa."
16:30
So he summoned me and said, "Can you train me 150 grandmothers?"
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Deia luzatu zidan eta esan zuen, "Trebatuko dizkidazu 150 amona?"
16:34
I said, "I can't, Mr. President.
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Esan nion, "Ezin dut, Presidente Jauna.
16:36
But they will. The grandmothers will."
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Baino beraiek egingo dute. Amonek egingo dute."
16:38
So he built me the first Barefoot training center in Sierra Leone.
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Hala eraiki zidan lehenengo Oinustuak trebatzeko gunea Sierra Leonan.
16:41
And 150 grandmothers have been trained in Sierra Leone.
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Eta 150 amona trebatu dituzte Sierra Leonan.
16:45
Gambia:
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Gambia:
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we went to select a grandmother in Gambia.
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Gambian amona bat aukeratzera joan ginen.
16:50
Went to this village.
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Herrixka honetara joan ginen.
16:52
I knew which woman I would like to take.
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Banekien ze emakume eraman nahi nukeen.
16:54
The community got together and said, "Take these two women."
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Komunitatea elkartu zen eta esan zuten, "Eraman bi emakume hauek."
16:57
I said, "No, I want to take this woman."
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Esan nien, "Ez, emakume hau eraman nahi dut."
16:59
They said, "Why? She doesn't know the language. You don't know her."
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Esan zuten, "Zergatik? Berak ez daki hizkuntza. Ez duzu ezagutzen."
17:01
I said, "I like the body language. I like the way she speaks."
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Esan nien, "Gorputz hizkuntza gustatzen zait. Gustuko dut hitz egiteko duen modua."
17:04
"Difficult husband; not possible."
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"Senar zaila; ez da posible."
17:06
Called the husband, the husband came,
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Senarra deitu nuen, senarra etorri zen,
17:08
swaggering, politician, mobile in his hand. "Not possible."
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hesola baino tenteago, politikaria, mugikorra eskuan. "Ezinezkoa."
17:11
"Why not?" "The woman, look how beautiful she is."
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"Zergatik ez?" "Emakumea, begiratu zein ederra den."
17:14
I said, "Yeah, she is very beautiful."
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Esan nion, "Bai, oso ederra da."
17:16
"What happens if she runs off with an Indian man?"
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"Zer gertatzen da Indiako gizon batekin alde egiten badu?"
17:18
That was his biggest fear.
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Hori zen bere beldur handiena.
17:20
I said, "She'll be happy. She'll ring you up on the mobile."
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Esan nion, "Pozik egongo da. Mugikorrera hots egingo dizu."
17:23
She went like a grandmother
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Amona bat bezala alde egin zuen
17:26
and came back like a tiger.
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eta tigrea bezala itzuli zen.
17:28
She walked out of the plane
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Hegazkinetik irten zen
17:30
and spoke to the whole press as if she was a veteran.
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eta prentsari hitz egin zion eskarmentu handia balu bezala.
17:33
She handled the national press,
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Prentsa nazionala gobernatu zuen,
17:36
and she was a star.
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eta izarra izan zen.
17:38
And when I went back six months later, I said, "Where's your husband?"
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Eta sei hilabete beranduago itzuli nintzenean, esan nuen, "Non dago zure senarra?"
17:41
"Oh, somewhere. It doesn't matter."
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"O, nonbaiten. Ez du axola."
17:43
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
17:45
Success story.
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Istorio arrakastatsua.
17:47
(Laughter)
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(Barre-algarak)
17:49
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
17:52
I'll just wind up by saying
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Amaituko dut esanez
17:58
that I think you don't have to look for solutions outside.
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uste dudala konponbideak ez direla kanpoan bilatu behar.
18:02
Look for solutions within.
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Bilatu konponbideak barrenean.
18:04
And listen to people. They have the solutions in front of you.
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Eta entzun jendeari. Beraiek konponbideak dauzkate zure aurrean.
18:07
They're all over the world.
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Mundu osoan zehar daude.
18:09
Don't even worry.
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Ez arduratu.
18:11
Don't listen to the World Bank, listen to the people on the ground.
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Ez entzun Munduko Bankuari, entzun lekuko jendeari.
18:14
They have all the solutions in the world.
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Munduko konponbide guztiak dauzkate.
18:17
I'll end with a quotation by Mahatma Gandhi.
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Mahatma Gandhi-ren aipu batekin bukatuko dut.
18:20
"First they ignore you,
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"Lehenengo ez dizute jaramonik egiten,
18:22
then they laugh at you,
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gero barre egiten dizute,
18:24
then they fight you,
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ondoren zure aurka borrokatzen dira,
18:26
and then you win."
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eta orduan irabazi duzu."
18:28
Thank you.
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Eskerrik asko.
18:30
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
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