Bunker Roy: Learning from a barefoot movement

Translator: Tracy Hong Reviewer: Michelle Ho

I'd like to take you to another world.

我想帶你哋去另一個世界

And I'd like to share

我想同你哋分享 一個同窮人長達 45 年嘅故事

a 45 year-old love story

with the poor,

living on less than one dollar a day.

呢班窮人每日連一蚊美金都賺唔到

I went to a very elitist, snobbish,

我曾經喺印度接受 精英、貴族、高昂嘅教育

expensive education in India,

and that almost destroyed me.

但咁嘅教育幾乎摧毀我嘅人生

I was all set

我被選做外交官、老師、醫生

to be a diplomat, teacher, doctor --

all laid out.

呢啲工全部都等住我

Then, I don't look it, but I was the Indian national squash champion

但我冇做呢啲工

因為我三年嚟都係參加緊 印度國家壁球比賽

for three years.

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

The whole world was laid out for me.

成個世界就好似為我準備好曬

Everything was at my feet.

一切都喺我掌握之中

I could do nothing wrong.

差錯絕對冇可能發生

And then I thought out of curiosity

但係之後我出於好奇

I'd like to go and live and work

我想去鄉下工作、生活下

and just see what a village is like.

感受一下係點嘅感覺

So in 1965,

所以喺 1965 年 我去到印度比哈爾邦

I went to what was called the worst Bihar famine in India,

經歷嗰度史上最大嘅飢荒

and I saw starvation, death,

我第一見到飢荒同死亡

people dying of hunger, for the first time.

It changed my life.

我嘅生命亦從此改變

I came back home,

我返到屋企

told my mother,

同我母親講：

"I'd like to live and work in a village."

「我想去鄉下做嘢，喺嗰度生活。」

Mother went into a coma.

佢震驚到暈咗

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

"What is this?

「你係咩意思？

The whole world is laid out for you, the best jobs are laid out for you,

成個世界都為你而鋪排好曬，

最好嘅工等住你做，

and you want to go and work in a village?

你宜家同我講想去鄉下工作？

I mean, is there something wrong with you?"

你係唔係有問題？」

I said, "No, I've got the best eduction.

我話：「我受過最好嘅教育，

It made me think.

令我學識咗思考。

And I wanted to give something back

我決定要用我所學，回饋社會。」

in my own way."

"What do you want to do in a village?

「你想去鄉下做咩？

No job, no money,

你無工作，無錢，無保障，無前景。」

no security, no prospect."

I said, "I want to live

我話：「我想喺嗰度生活，

and dig wells for five years."

挖五年井。」

"Dig wells for five years?

「挖五年井？

You went to the most expensive school and college in India,

你讀過全印度最貴嘅學校，

and you want to dig wells for five years?"

宜家你話想用五年時間去挖井？」

She didn't speak to me for a very long time,

自此之後，佢好耐無同我講嘢

because she thought I'd let my family down.

因為佢覺得我令屋企人丟架

But then,

不過，喺村裡邊、喺窮人身上

I was exposed to the most extraordinary knowledge and skills

that very poor people have,

我見識咗最非凡嘅知識同技能

which are never brought into the mainstream --

但呢啲知識同技能從來都唔入流

which is never identified, respected,

從來無被外邊嘅人 注意過、尊重過，同廣泛應用過

applied on a large scale.

And I thought I'd start a Barefoot College --

我於是諗創辦一間赤腳學院

college only for the poor.

一間只為窮人開辦嘅學院

What the poor thought was important

將窮人認為重要嘅想法體現喺學院裏邊

would be reflected in the college.

I went to this village for the first time.

第一次去到個農村

Elders came to me

年紀老邁嘅長者過嚟問我：

and said, "Are you running from the police?"

「你係咪通緝犯？」

I said, "No."

我話：「唔係。」

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

"You failed in your exam?"

「考試肥佬？」

I said, "No."

我話唔係

"You didn't get a government job?" I said, "No."

「搵唔到政府工？」

我話唔係

"What are you doing here?

「咁你過嚟做咩？點解要嚟呢度？

Why are you here?

The education system in India

印度嘅教育制度

makes you look at Paris and New Delhi and Zurich;

只會令你嚮往巴黎、新德里 或者蘇黎世呢啲地方。

what are you doing in this village?

你嚟我哋鄉下到底做咩？

Is there something wrong with you you're not telling us?"

你係唔係有嘢瞞住我哋未講？」

I said, "No, I want to actually start a college

我話：「冇，

我只想為窮人創辦一間學院。

only for the poor.

What the poor thought was important would be reflected in the college."

窮人認為重要嘅想法 可以喺學院裏邊體現出嚟。」

So the elders gave me some very sound and profound advice.

呢啲長者給咗我好多建設性嘅提議

They said, "Please,

佢哋話：

「唔好畀有學歷或者證書嘅人 入呢間學院。」

don't bring anyone with a degree and qualification

into your college."

So it's the only college in India

所以我哋係印度唯一一間 唔請博士同碩士嘅學院

where, if you should have a Ph.D. or a Master's,

you are disqualified to come.

You have to be a cop-out or a wash-out or a dropout

（笑聲）

你必須要係逃學者 考試唔合格，或者輟學

to come to our college.

先至能夠入嚟我哋學院

You have to work with your hands.

你必須用勞力做嘢

You have to have a dignity of labor.

唔會因為勞動而羞恥

You have to show that you have a skill that you can offer to the community

要向社區證明你有佢哋所需要嘅技能

and provide a service to the community.

同埋服務社區

So we started the Barefoot College,

所以我哋開始咗赤腳學院

and we redefined professionalism.

我哋將「專業」重新定義

Who is a professional?

咁點先算一名專家？

A professional is someone

專家指嘅係嗰啲 有能力、自信心同信念嘅人

who has a combination of competence,

confidence and belief.

A water diviner is a professional.

搵水源嘅人係專家

A traditional midwife

接生婆同樣係專家

is a professional.

A traditional bone setter is a professional.

鐵打師傅都係專家

These are professionals all over the world.

專家遍佈世界各地

You find them in any inaccessible village around the world.

你可以喺任何偏僻嘅村落 揾到佢哋嘅身影

And we thought that these people should come into the mainstream

我哋認為我哋要畀呢啲人

and show that the knowledge and skills that they have

喺我哋主流社會裏邊

證明佢哋擁有嘅知識同技能 係全世界都需要嘅

is universal.

It needs to be used, needs to be applied,

正因為呢啲知識同技能今日仲有用

needs to be shown to the world outside --

that these knowledge and skills

佢哋應該推展到全世界同埋廣泛應用

are relevant even today.

So the college works

呢間學院奉行 聖雄甘地嘅生活同工作文化

following the lifestyle and workstyle of Mahatma Gandhi.

You eat on the floor, you sleep on the floor, you work on the floor.

食飯、瞓覺同工作都喺地下

There are no contracts, no written contracts.

冇有合同，從來都唔需要簽合同

You can stay with me for 20 years, go tomorrow.

你可以喺度做廿年，然後聽日就走

And no one can get more than $100 a month.

無人可以一個月賺取多過一百美金

You come for the money, you don't come to Barefoot College.

如果你想賺錢，你就嚟錯咗地方嘞

You come for the work and the challenge,

如果你愛工作而且愛挑戰 赤腳學院歡迎你

you'll come to the Barefoot College.

That is where we want you to try crazy ideas.

呢度我哋想你測試瘋狂嘅想法

Whatever idea you have, come and try it.

無論係點嘅想法，都可以大膽嘗試

It doesn't matter if you fail.

失敗無所謂

Battered, bruised, you start again.

最多咪重頭嚟過

It's the only college where the teacher is the learner

呢度係唯一一間 老師同學生身份互換嘅學院

and the learner is the teacher.

And it's the only college where we don't give a certificate.

同時亦係唯一一間唔頒證書嘅學院

You are certified by the community you serve.

你嘅學歷係由你服務嘅社區嚟鑑定

You don't need a paper to hang on the wall

你唔需要喺牆上掛起一張證書 嚟證明你係工程師

to show that you are an engineer.

So when I said that,

當村民聽到我呢番話

they said, "Well show us what is possible. What are you doing?

佢哋話：「好啊，你用行動實踐呀。

This is all mumbo-jumbo if you can't show it on the ground."

如果你做唔成，

你講嘅全部都係廢話。」

So we built the first Barefoot College

所以喺 1986 年

我哋成立第一間赤腳學院

in 1986.

It was built by 12 Barefoot architects

係十二位連字都唔識嘅建築師

who can't read and write,

built on $1.50 a sq. ft.

以每平方呎 $1.5 美金嘅成本 興建咗呢間學院

150 people lived there, worked there.

一百五十人喺嗰度住同做嘢

They got the Aga Khan Award for Architecture in 2002.

2002 年時佢哋獲頒阿迦汗建築獎

But then they suspected, they thought there was an architect behind it.

但評委懷疑有其他建築師參與

I said, "Yes, they made the blueprints,

於是我話畀佢哋︰「的確有，

but the Barefoot architects actually constructed the college."

但佢哋只係畫藍圖，

而落手落腳起嘅 只有赤腳學院嘅建築師。」

We are the only ones who actually returned the award for $50,000,

因為佢哋唔信我哋赤腳學院嘅建築師

because they didn't believe us,

而且我哋認為佢哋喺度誹謗

and we thought that they were actually casting aspersions

所以我哋係唯一一個得獎者 將五萬蚊獎金還返畀主辦方

on the Barefoot architects of Tilonia.

I asked a forester --

我問一位林務員

high-powered, paper-qualified expert --

一位權威、有學歷證書嘅專家

I said, "What can you build in this place?"

我問︰「你可以喺度起咩？」

He had one look at the soil and said, "Forget it. No way.

他望一望泥土，話︰

「算數啦，冇可能。根本唔值得。

Not even worth it.

No water, rocky soil."

無水，周圍都係岩石地。」

I was in a bit of a spot.

我開始有啲擔憂

And I said, "Okay, I'll go to the old man in village

我話：「咁好啦， 我去問下村嘅長老。」

and say, 'What should I grow in this spot?'"

我問呢度可以種咩

He looked quietly at me and said,

長老望住我講︰

"You build this, you build this, you put this, and it'll work."

「你起呢個，放呢個，咁就得㗎嘞。」

This is what it looks like today.

學院今日就係咁嘅樣

Went to the roof,

我記得當時我上去屋頂望

and all the women said, "Clear out.

但所有嘅婦女都話︰

「出去，男人唔上得嚟，

The men should clear out because we don't want to share this technology with the men.

因為我哋唔想同男人分享呢門技術，

This is waterproofing the roof."

事關宜家喺房頂整緊防水工程。」

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

It is a bit of jaggery, a bit of urens

防水材料有棕櫚糖、蕁麻

and a bit of other things I don't know.

仲有一啲我唔知嘅嘢

But it actually doesn't leak.

但佢的確防水

Since 1986, it hasn't leaked.

1986 年到宜家都無漏過水

This technology, the women will not share with the men.

呢門技術，婦女唔會同男士分享㗎嘞

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

It's the only college

呢間亦係唯一完全由太陽能供電嘅學院

which is fully solar-electrified.

All the power comes from the sun.

所有電力嚟自太陽

45 kilowatts of panels on the roof.

四萬五千瓦嘅太陽能板裝喺屋頂

And everything works off the sun for the next 25 years.

今後 25 年都係靠曬太陽

So long as the sun shines,

只要有陽光，我哋就唔怕冇電

we'll have no problem with power.

But the beauty is

但呢樣嘢獨特在

that is was installed

佢係由一位受過只有八年小學教育

by a priest, a Hindu priest,

who's only done eight years of primary schooling --

從來冇讀過中學或者讀大學嘅 印度教牧師裝嵌

never been to school, never been to college.

He knows more about solar

我敢講佢喺太陽能方面嘅知識 全世界無人能及

than anyone I know anywhere in the world guaranteed.

Food, if you come to the Barefoot College,

如果你嚟到赤腳學院

is solar cooked.

所有食物都係靠太陽能煮熟

But the people who fabricated that solar cooker

而組裝太陽能烹調器具嘅人 全部都係唔識字嘅女性

are women,

illiterate women,

佢哋組裝咗最尖端複雜 呈拋物線形狀嘅太陽能烹調用具

who actually fabricate

the most sophisticated solar cooker.

It's a parabolic Scheffler solar cooker.

Unfortunately, they're almost half German,

不幸嘅係，佢哋幾乎有一半德國血統

they're so precise.

或者係咁，佢哋做嘢非常精確

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

You'll never find Indian women so precise.

你無可能揾到做嘢咁精確嘅印度女性

Absolutely to the last inch,

成個器具嘅製作過程就全靠佢哋

they can make that cooker.

And we have 60 meals twice a day

我哋每日兩餐飯，一餐六十份 全靠太陽能煮好

of solar cooking.

We have a dentist --

學院有一位牙醫

she's a grandmother, illiterate, who's a dentist.

佢係一位唔識字、而且有孫嘅阿婆

She actually looks after the teeth

但佢真係牙醫，仲幫七千名兒童睇牙

of 7,000 children.

Barefoot technology:

赤腳科技：

this was 1986 -- no engineer, no architect thought of it --

呢年係 1986 年

當時無工程師、無建築師諗到

but we are collecting rainwater from the roofs.

但我哋諗到收集屋頂雨水

Very little water is wasted.

所以咁多年嚟我哋浪費咗好少水

All the roofs are connected underground

所有屋頂嘅水槽都同地底 一個有四十萬升容量嘅水箱連接

to a 400,000 liter tank,

and no water is wasted.

所有水都唔會浪費

If we have four years of drought, we still have water on the campus,

即使發生四年乾旱

因為儲雨水嘅關係 我哋嘅學院都唔會缺水

because we collect rainwater.

60 percent of children don't go to school,

另外，六成小朋友 因為幫屋企而無機會返學

because they have to look after animals --

呢啲小朋友要睇住動物︰山羊、綿羊

sheep, goats --

domestic chores.

仲要理埋家頭細務

So we thought of starting a school

有見及此

我哋決定為呢啲孩子開辦夜校

at night for the children.

Because the night schools of Tilonia,

因為呢啲夜校

over 75,000 children have gone through these night schools.

令超過七萬五千個細路都有得返學

Because it's for the convenience of the child;

夜校嘅出現係因為孩子嘅需要

it's not for the convenience of the teacher.

而唔係為咗方便老師

And what do we teach in these schools?

我哋學校教咩？

Democracy, citizenship,

民主、公民資格

how you should measure your land,

點樣測量土地

what you should do if you're arrested,

俾人拉之後要做嘅嘢

what you should do if your animal is sick.

生畜病咗點算

This is what we teach in the night schools.

呢啲都係我哋夜校教嘅知識

But all the schools are solar-lit.

所有學校仲係完全靠太陽能供電

Every five years

每到五年，我哋搞一次選舉

we have an election.

Between six to 14 year-old children

六至十四歲嘅兒童 都會喺呢個民主選舉裏邊投票

participate in a democratic process,

and they elect a prime minister.

選出一個總理

The prime minister is 12 years old.

現任總理係一個十二歲嘅女仔

She looks after 20 goats in the morning,

佢朝早看住二十隻羊

but she's prime minister in the evening.

但夜晚就做返總理

She has a cabinet,

佢有自己內閣

a minister of education, a minister for energy, a minister for health.

有教育部長、能源部長、衛生部長

And they actually monitor and supervise

佢同內閣負責監督同管理 150 間學校 7,000 名學生

150 schools for 7,000 children.

She got the World's Children's Prize five years ago,

五年前呢位總理得到世界兒童獎

and she went to Sweden.

佢仲去咗瑞典攞獎添

First time ever going out of her village.

佢第一次離開條村

Never seen Sweden.

佢從未去過瑞典

Wasn't dazzled at all by what was happening.

但佢對當時嘅場面都一啲唔驚訝

And the Queen of Sweden, who's there,

瑞典皇后當時都喺度

turned to me and said, "Can you ask this child where she got her confidence from?

佢問我：「你可唔可以 問下呢個小朋友，

佢嘅自信邊度嚟？

She's only 12 years old,

佢先得十二歲，但完全唔驚嘅？」

and she's not dazzled by anything."

And the girl, who's on her left,

企喺皇后左邊嘅呢個細路女 轉身對住我，望住皇后

turned to me and looked at the queen straight in the eye

and said, "Please tell her I'm the prime minister."

然後同我講： 「話畀佢知，我係總理。」

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

(Applause)

（掌聲）

Where the percentage of illiteracy is very high,

喺文盲率太高嘅地方，我哋用木偶溝通

we use puppetry.

Puppets is the way we communicate.

木偶就成為我哋溝通嘅方式

You have Jokhim Chacha

呢個三百歲嘅木偶，佢叫喬金查查

who is 300 years old.

He is my psychoanalyst. He is my teacher.

佢係我嘅心理分析師、我嘅導師

He's my doctor. He's my lawyer.

我嘅醫生、我嘅律師、我嘅捐贈者

He's my donor.

He actually raises money,

佢幫我籌款，解決爭執

solves my disputes.

He solves my problems in the village.

仲幫助村落解決問題

If there's tension in the village,

如果村落發生糾紛

if attendance at the schools goes down

如果返學嘅出席率少咗

and there's a friction between the teacher and the parent,

如果老師同家長發生磨擦

the puppet calls the teacher and the parent in front of the whole village

木偶會叫老師同家長嚟到全村人面前

and says, "Shake hands.

然後講「握手言和，出席率唔可以跌」

The attendance must not drop."

These puppets

呢啲木偶仲係用回收返嚟嘅 世界銀行報告書整成

are made out of recycled World Bank reports.

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

(Applause)

（掌聲）

So this decentralized, demystified approach

呢個用太陽能為條村供電嘅方法 唔單止容易做到

of solar-electrifying villages,

we've covered all over India

而且仲拓展到成個印度

from Ladakh up to Bhutan --

從拉達克到不丹

all solar-electrified villages

所有太陽能供電嘅村 都係由受過培訓嘅人去做

by people who have been trained.

And we went to Ladakh,

我去咗拉達克

and we asked this woman --

問咗一位當地婦女

this, at minus 40, you have to come out of the roof,

喺呢度，零下四十度

因為室內無地方匿，屋兩邊又俾雪覆蓋

because there's no place, it was all snowed up on both sides --

你只能夠喺屋頂爬出嚟

and we asked this woman,

我哋問佢：

"What was the benefit you had

「太陽能發電對你有咩好處？」

from solar electricity?"

And she thought for a minute and said,

佢唸咗一陣，答：

"It's the first time I can see my husband's face in winter."

「佢令我第一次喺冬天 見到我老公個樣。」

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

Went to Afghanistan.

嚟到阿富汗…

One lesson we learned in India

我哋喺印度學識嘅一件事︰

was men are untrainable.

男人係教唔識嘅

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

Men are restless,

佢哋唔願意靜落嚟

men are ambitious,

但係又雄心勃勃、易衝動

men are compulsively mobile,

and they all want a certificate.

而且都想要張沙紙 證明自己實力

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

All across the globe, you have this tendency

你會發覺世界各地嘅男士 都想要一張證書

of men wanting a certificate.

Why? Because they want to leave the village

點解？

因為佢哋想離開村落，去城市揾工

and go to a city, looking for a job.

So we came up with a great solution:

我哋諗到一個好辦法，就係訓練阿婆

train grandmothers.

What's the best way of communicating

如今世上最好嘅溝通方式係咩？

in the world today?

Television? No.

電視？唔係

Telegraph? No.

電報？唔係

Telephone? No.

電話？唔係

Tell a woman.

向女性傾訴

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

(Applause)

（掌聲）

So we went to Afghanistan for the first time,

我哋第一次嚟到阿富汗時

and we picked three women

揀咗三位女性

and said, "We want to take them to India."

同當地人講︰ 「我哋想帶佢哋返印度。」

They said, "Impossible. They don't even go out of their rooms,

當地人話︰「冇可能。

and you want to take them to India."

佢哋連自己間房都出唔到去， 點會同你去印度！」

I said, "I'll make a concession. I'll take the husbands along as well."

我話：「我哋可以妥協， 可以畀佢哋老公一齊嚟。」

So I took the husbands along.

結果佢哋老公跟埋嚟

Of course, the women were much more intelligent than the men.

當然，女性比男性更有智慧

In six months,

喺六個月內，我哋係點樣練呢啲女性？

how do we train these women?

Sign language.

手語

You don't choose the written word.

唔用文字

You don't choose the spoken word.

唔用講嘢

You use sign language.

只用手語

And in six months

就喺六個月內

they can become solar engineers.

佢哋就成為咗太陽能工程師

They go back and solar-electrify their own village.

佢哋返去自己條村度 裝設太陽能發電設施

This woman went back

呢啲女性返去

and solar-electrified the first village,

為阿富汗第一條村提供太陽能電力 同開辦工作坊

set up a workshop --

the first village ever to be solar-electrified in Afghanistan

阿富汗第一個靠太陽能發電嘅村落 就靠三位女性親手建立

[was] by the three women.

This woman

呢位女性係一個非比尋常嘅婆婆

is an extraordinary grandmother.

55 years old, and she's solar-electrified 200 houses for me in Afghanistan.

55 歲，已經為阿富汗二百間房屋 提供太陽能電力

And they haven't collapsed.

而且無一間冧過

She actually went and spoke to an engineering department in Afghanistan

呢位阿婆去咗阿富汗政府嘅工程部門

and told the head of the department

話畀個部門知交流電同直流電嘅分別

the difference between AC and DC.

He didn't know.

而嗰位部長唔知個分別

Those three women have trained 27 more women

嗰三位女性又再培訓另外 27 位女性

and solar-electrified 100 villages in Afghanistan.

為阿富汗一百條村實現太陽能發電

We went to Africa,

我哋去咗非洲，做咗同樣嘅事

and we did the same thing.

All these women sitting at one table from eight, nine countries,

呢啲女性嚟自八、九個國家，坐埋一齊

all chatting to each other, not understanding a word,

講唔同嘅語言，互相傾偈

because they're all speaking a different language.

只係唔會聽得明對方講嘢

But their body language is great.

但佢哋嘅肢體語言犀利

They're speaking to each other

足以令佢哋可以明白對方

and actually becoming solar engineers.

就係咁，佢哋學有所成 成為咗太陽能工程師

I went to Sierra Leone,

我亦都去咗塞拉利昂

and there was this minister driving down in the dead of night --

有一晚個首相經過呢條村

comes across this village.

佢揸返轉頭，問呢度發生咗咩事

Comes back, goes into the village, says, "Well what's the story?"

They said, "These two grandmothers ... "

村民話：「就係呢兩位阿婆…」

"Grandmothers?" The minister couldn't believe what was happening.

「阿婆？」首相難以置信

"Where did they go?" "Went to India and back."

「佢哋去咗邊度？」

啲人答︰「佢哋喺印度返嚟。」

Went straight to the president.

首相之後見總統，話：

He said, "Do you know there's a solar-electrified village in Sierra Leone?"

「你知唔知我哋國家 有一個靠太陽能供電嘅村？」

He said, "No." Half the cabinet went to see the grandmothers the next day.

總統話：「唔知道。」

第二日內閣一半嘅成員 都去拜訪呢啲阿婆

"What's the story."

佢哋想知點樣做到

So he summoned me and said, "Can you train me 150 grandmothers?"

總統傳召咗我

問我可唔可以幫佢培訓 150 位阿婆

I said, "I can't, Mr. President.

我話：「總統，我唔得。

But they will. The grandmothers will."

不過呢啲阿婆可以做到。」

So he built me the first Barefoot training center in Sierra Leone.

總統為我哋喺塞拉利昂 興建咗第一間赤腳培訓中心

And 150 grandmothers have been trained in Sierra Leone.

之後有 150 位阿婆喺呢度受訓

Gambia:

we went to select a grandmother in Gambia.

喺甘比亞，我哋都挑選咗一位阿婆

Went to this village.

我哋去咗呢條村

I knew which woman I would like to take.

我好知道要揀邊個女性

The community got together and said, "Take these two women."

但成條村嘅人都推薦： 「呢兩位女性適合。」

I said, "No, I want to take this woman."

我話：「唔係，我想要呢位女士。」

They said, "Why? She doesn't know the language. You don't know her."

佢哋話：「點解？

你同佢溝通唔到，你又唔識佢。」

I said, "I like the body language. I like the way she speaks."

我話：「我鍾意佢嘅身體語言， 同埋佢講嘢嘅方式。」

"Difficult husband; not possible."

但啲人話，佢老公比較麻煩

Called the husband, the husband came,

咁我哋叫佢老公出嚟

swaggering, politician, mobile in his hand. "Not possible."

佢老公大搖大擺行過嚟

十足政客咁，揸住手機話「唔得！」

"Why not?" "The woman, look how beautiful she is."

我問點解？

佢話︰「睇下我老婆幾靚。」

I said, "Yeah, she is very beautiful."

我話：「係，佢係好靚。」

"What happens if she runs off with an Indian man?"

佢話：「如果佢同某個 印度男人私奔，咁點算？」

That was his biggest fear.

呢個係佢最大顧慮

I said, "She'll be happy. She'll ring you up on the mobile."

我話：「佢會開心生活，

每日同你喺電話傾偈。」

She went like a grandmother

我想講，佢離開之前嘅性格十足阿婆咁

and came back like a tiger.

但返到嚟之後就成隻老虎咁

She walked out of the plane

佢返到嚟，落咗飛機

and spoke to the whole press as if she was a veteran.

好似退役士兵咁接受記者訪問

She handled the national press,

佢應付到全國嘅傳媒

and she was a star.

就好似一位明星咁

And when I went back six months later, I said, "Where's your husband?"

我六個月之後返去搵佢

問佢老公去咗邊

"Oh, somewhere. It doesn't matter."

佢話：「唔知去咗邊度滾， 但我懶得理。」

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

Success story.

成功嘅案例

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

(Applause)

（掌聲）

I'll just wind up by saying

最後，我想講

that I think you don't have to look for solutions outside.

你唔使去出邊先揾到解決方法

Look for solutions within.

聽下周圍嘅人嘅建議

And listen to people. They have the solutions in front of you.

佢哋總會畀到解決方法你

They're all over the world.

而且全世界都揾到呢啲人

Don't even worry.

所以你唔使煩惱

Don't listen to the World Bank, listen to the people on the ground.

唔好聽世界銀行講

聽實實在在、唔離地嘅普通人講

They have all the solutions in the world.

佢哋知道點樣解決問題

I'll end with a quotation by Mahatma Gandhi.

最後我引用聖雄甘地一句話

"First they ignore you,

「佢哋開頭忽視你，

then they laugh at you,

然後嘲笑你，

then they fight you,

繼而同你爭，

and then you win."

最後你就係贏家。」

Thank you.

多謝大家

（掌聲）

(Applause)