Bunker Roy: Learning from a barefoot movement

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Prevoditelj: Kristina Prebeg Recezent: Tilen Pigac - EFZG
00:15
I'd like to take you to another world.
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Želio bih vas povesti u drugi svijet.
00:19
And I'd like to share
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I želio bih podijeliti
00:21
a 45 year-old love story
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45 godina staru ljubavnu priču
00:25
with the poor,
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sa siromaštvom,
00:28
living on less than one dollar a day.
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životom s manje od jednog dolara na dan.
00:33
I went to a very elitist, snobbish,
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Pohađao sam vrlo elitno, snobovsko,
00:37
expensive education in India,
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skupo obrazovanje u Indiji
00:41
and that almost destroyed me.
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i to me gotovo uništilo.
00:46
I was all set
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Bio sam predodređen
00:48
to be a diplomat, teacher, doctor --
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da budem diplomat, učitelj, liječnik --
00:51
all laid out.
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sve je bilo posloženo.
00:55
Then, I don't look it, but I was the Indian national squash champion
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Iako, ne izgleda tako, bio sam indijski nacionalni prvak u skvošu
00:58
for three years.
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tri godine.
01:00
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
01:02
The whole world was laid out for me.
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Cijeli svijet mi je bio na raspolaganju.
01:05
Everything was at my feet.
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Sve mi je bilo na dohvat ruke.
01:07
I could do nothing wrong.
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Nisam mogao pogriješiti.
01:10
And then I thought out of curiosity
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I onda sam iz znatiželje
01:12
I'd like to go and live and work
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poželio otići živjeti i raditi
01:14
and just see what a village is like.
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na selu, samo da vidim kako je to.
01:16
So in 1965,
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I tako sam 1965. godine
01:18
I went to what was called the worst Bihar famine in India,
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otišao u Bihar, mjesto najgore oskudice u Indiji
01:22
and I saw starvation, death,
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i vidio sam izgladnjelost, smrt,
01:25
people dying of hunger, for the first time.
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ljude koji umiru od gladi, i to po prvi put u životu.
01:28
It changed my life.
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Promijenilo mi je život.
01:31
I came back home,
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Vratio sam se kući,
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told my mother,
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rekao majci,
01:35
"I'd like to live and work in a village."
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"Želio bih živjeti i raditi na selu."
01:38
Mother went into a coma.
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Majka je pala u nesvijest.
01:40
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
01:43
"What is this?
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"Što je ovo?
01:45
The whole world is laid out for you, the best jobs are laid out for you,
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Cijeli svijet ti je na raspolaganju, nude ti se najbolji poslovi,
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and you want to go and work in a village?
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i ti želiš otići i raditi na selu?
01:50
I mean, is there something wrong with you?"
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Mislim, što nije u redu s tobom?"
01:52
I said, "No, I've got the best eduction.
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Rekao sam: " Ne, imao sam najbolje obrazovanje.
01:54
It made me think.
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Natjeralo me da razmislim.
01:56
And I wanted to give something back
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I želio bih doprinijeti
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in my own way."
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na svoj način."
02:01
"What do you want to do in a village?
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"Što bi želio raditi na selu?
02:03
No job, no money,
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Bez posla, bez novca,
02:05
no security, no prospect."
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bez sigurnosti, bez napredovanja."
02:07
I said, "I want to live
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Rekao sam: " Hoću živjeti tamo
02:09
and dig wells for five years."
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i kopati bunare pet godina."
02:12
"Dig wells for five years?
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"Kopati bunare pet godina?
02:14
You went to the most expensive school and college in India,
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Pohađao si najskuplju školu i fakultet u Indiji
02:17
and you want to dig wells for five years?"
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i želiš kopati bunare slijedećih pet godina?"
02:19
She didn't speak to me for a very long time,
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Dugo nije razgovarala sa mnom
02:23
because she thought I'd let my family down.
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jer je smatrala da sam iznevjerio obitelj.
02:28
But then,
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Ali tada,
02:30
I was exposed to the most extraordinary knowledge and skills
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bio sam izložen najneobičnijem znanju i vještinama
02:33
that very poor people have,
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koje posjeduju vrlo siromašni ljudi,
02:35
which are never brought into the mainstream --
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a nisu uvrštena u regularno obrazovanje --
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which is never identified, respected,
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koje nikada nije definirano, vrednovano,
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applied on a large scale.
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primijenjeno u širokoj upotrebi.
02:42
And I thought I'd start a Barefoot College --
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I pomislio sam, osnovat ću Bosonogu školu --
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college only for the poor.
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školu samo za siromašne.
02:46
What the poor thought was important
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Ono što siromašni misle da je važno
02:48
would be reflected in the college.
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bit će preneseno u školu.
02:52
I went to this village for the first time.
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Otišao sam u to selo po prvi put.
02:54
Elders came to me
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Starješine su došle do mene
02:56
and said, "Are you running from the police?"
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i pitali me: " Bježiš li od policije?"
02:58
I said, "No."
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Rekao sam: "Ne."
03:00
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
03:04
"You failed in your exam?"
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"Pao si na ispitu?"
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I said, "No."
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Rekao sam: "Ne."
03:08
"You didn't get a government job?" I said, "No."
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"Nisi dobio državni posao?" -- Rekao sam: "Ne."
03:11
"What are you doing here?
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"Što onda radiš ovdje?
03:13
Why are you here?
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Zašto si ovdje?
03:15
The education system in India
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Obrazovni sustav u Indiji
03:17
makes you look at Paris and New Delhi and Zurich;
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usmjerava te prema Parizu, New Delhiju i Zurichu;
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what are you doing in this village?
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što radiš u ovom selu?
03:22
Is there something wrong with you you're not telling us?"
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Postoji li nešto što nam prešućuješ o sebi?"
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I said, "No, I want to actually start a college
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Rekao sam: Ne, zaista želim osnovati školu
03:28
only for the poor.
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samo za siromašne.
03:30
What the poor thought was important would be reflected in the college."
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Ono što siromašni misle da je važno, podučavat će se u ovoj školi."
03:33
So the elders gave me some very sound and profound advice.
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Onda su mi starješine dale vrlo jasan i mudar savjet.
03:37
They said, "Please,
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Rekli su:"Molimo te,
03:39
don't bring anyone with a degree and qualification
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ne dovodi nikoga s diplomom i kvalifikacijama
03:42
into your college."
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u svoju školu."
03:44
So it's the only college in India
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I tako je ovo jedina škola u Indiji
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where, if you should have a Ph.D. or a Master's,
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u kojoj, ako imate doktorat ili magisterij,
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you are disqualified to come.
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niste dobrodošli.
03:52
You have to be a cop-out or a wash-out or a dropout
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Morate biti osoba koja je odustala, nije dovoljno dobra ili neobrazovana
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to come to our college.
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kako bi bili primljeni u našu školu.
04:00
You have to work with your hands.
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Morate raditi svojim rukama.
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You have to have a dignity of labor.
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Morate imati dostojanstvo za fizički rad.
04:04
You have to show that you have a skill that you can offer to the community
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Morate pokazati da imate vještinu koju možete ponuditi zajednici
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and provide a service to the community.
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i osigurati uslugu zajednici.
04:10
So we started the Barefoot College,
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Tako smo osnovali Bosonogu školu
04:13
and we redefined professionalism.
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i promijenili pojam profesionalizma.
04:15
Who is a professional?
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Tko je profesionalac?
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A professional is someone
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Profesionalac je osoba
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who has a combination of competence,
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koja ima kombinaciju sposobnosti,
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confidence and belief.
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samopouzdanje i vjere.
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A water diviner is a professional.
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Osoba koja zna pronaći vodu je profesionalac.
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A traditional midwife
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Tradicionalna primalja
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is a professional.
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je profesionalac.
04:31
A traditional bone setter is a professional.
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Tradicionalni kiropraktičar je profesionalac.
04:34
These are professionals all over the world.
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Takvih profesionalaca ima diljem svjeta.
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You find them in any inaccessible village around the world.
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Naći ćete ih u svakom nedostupnom selu posvuda u svijetu.
04:40
And we thought that these people should come into the mainstream
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I smatramo da ti ljudi trebaju biti dio regularnog obrazovanja
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and show that the knowledge and skills that they have
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i pokazati da su znanja i vještine koje posjeduju
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is universal.
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univerzalna.
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It needs to be used, needs to be applied,
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Potrebno ih je upotrijebiti, primjeniti,
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needs to be shown to the world outside --
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potrebno je pokazati vanjskom svijetu --
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that these knowledge and skills
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da su ta znanja i vještine
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are relevant even today.
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važna još i danas.
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So the college works
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Dakle, Škola djeluje
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following the lifestyle and workstyle of Mahatma Gandhi.
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slijedeći životni stil i princip rada Mahatme Gandhija.
05:04
You eat on the floor, you sleep on the floor, you work on the floor.
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Jedeš na podu, spavaš na podu, radiš na podu.
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There are no contracts, no written contracts.
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Nema ugovora, nema pisanih ugovora.
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You can stay with me for 20 years, go tomorrow.
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Možete ostati sa mnom 20 godina, ili otići sutra.
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And no one can get more than $100 a month.
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I nitko ne može dobiti više od 100$ mjesečno.
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You come for the money, you don't come to Barefoot College.
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Ako dolazite zbog novca, nemojte dolazite u Bosonogu školu.
05:19
You come for the work and the challenge,
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Ako dolazite zbog rada i izazova,
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you'll come to the Barefoot College.
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dođite u Bosonogu školu.
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That is where we want you to try crazy ideas.
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Ovdje želimo da isprobate i kreirate ideje.
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Whatever idea you have, come and try it.
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Kakvu god ideju imate, dođite i isprobajte je.
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It doesn't matter if you fail.
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Nije važno ako ne uspijete.
05:30
Battered, bruised, you start again.
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Iscrpljeni, u modricama, počinjete ispočetka.
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It's the only college where the teacher is the learner
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Ovo je jedina škola gdje je učitelj učenik,
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and the learner is the teacher.
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a učenik je učitelj.
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And it's the only college where we don't give a certificate.
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I to je jedina škola u kojoj se ne izdaje certifikat.
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You are certified by the community you serve.
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Certificirani ste od zajednice kojoj služite.
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You don't need a paper to hang on the wall
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Ne treba vam papir koji ćete objesiti na zid
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to show that you are an engineer.
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kako biste pokazali da ste inženjer.
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So when I said that,
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Kada tako govorim,
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they said, "Well show us what is possible. What are you doing?
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kažu mi:"Pa, pokažite nam što je moguće. Što vi radite?
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This is all mumbo-jumbo if you can't show it on the ground."
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To su sve gluposti ako ih ne možete primijeniti u praksi."
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So we built the first Barefoot College
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Izgradili smo prvu Bosonogu školu
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in 1986.
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1986. godine.
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It was built by 12 Barefoot architects
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Izgradilo ju je 12 bosonogih arhitekta
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who can't read and write,
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koji ne znaju čitati i pisati,
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built on $1.50 a sq. ft.
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izgrađena je za 1.50$ po kvadratu.
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150 people lived there, worked there.
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150 ljudi živi i radi tamo.
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They got the Aga Khan Award for Architecture in 2002.
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2002. godine dobili su Nagradu za arhitekturu "Aga Khan".
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But then they suspected, they thought there was an architect behind it.
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No ubrzo su posumnjali kako iza svega stoji arhitekt.
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I said, "Yes, they made the blueprints,
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Rekao sam:"Da, izradio je nacrte,
06:26
but the Barefoot architects actually constructed the college."
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ali arhitekti Bosonoge škole izgradili su školu."
06:31
We are the only ones who actually returned the award for $50,000,
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Bili smo jedini koji su morali vratiti nagradu od 50.000$,
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because they didn't believe us,
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jer nam nisu vjerovali
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and we thought that they were actually casting aspersions
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i mislili smo da će širiti klevete
06:40
on the Barefoot architects of Tilonia.
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o Bosonogim arhitektima Tilonije.
06:43
I asked a forester --
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Pitao sam šumara,
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high-powered, paper-qualified expert --
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utjecajnog, visoko obrazovanog stručnjaka,
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I said, "What can you build in this place?"
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"Što možeš izgraditi na ovom mjestu?"
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He had one look at the soil and said, "Forget it. No way.
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Bacio je jedan pogled na zemljište i rekao:"Zaboravi. Nema šanse.
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Not even worth it.
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Nije vrijedno.
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No water, rocky soil."
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Nema vode, kameno zemljište."
06:57
I was in a bit of a spot.
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Ostao sam malo zatečen.
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And I said, "Okay, I'll go to the old man in village
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I rekao:" Dobro. Otići ću do starca u selo
07:01
and say, 'What should I grow in this spot?'"
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i reći:" Što bih mogao posaditi na ovom zemljištu?"
07:04
He looked quietly at me and said,
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Smireno me pogledao i rekao,
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"You build this, you build this, you put this, and it'll work."
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"Izgradi ovo, izgradi ovo, napravi ovo, i uspjet će."
07:08
This is what it looks like today.
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Ovako danas izgleda.
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Went to the roof,
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Otišao sam na krov
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and all the women said, "Clear out.
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i sve su žene rekle:"Makni se odavde.
07:16
The men should clear out because we don't want to share this technology with the men.
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Muškarci trebaju otići, jer ne želimo s njima dijeliti ovu tehnologiju.
07:19
This is waterproofing the roof."
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Ovo krov čini vodootpornim."
07:21
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:23
It is a bit of jaggery, a bit of urens
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To je malo nerafiniranog šećera, urina
07:26
and a bit of other things I don't know.
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i još nekih sastojaka za koje ne znam.
07:28
But it actually doesn't leak.
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Ali krov zaista ne prokišnjava.
07:30
Since 1986, it hasn't leaked.
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Nije promočio od 1986.
07:33
This technology, the women will not share with the men.
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Ovu tehnologiju žene odbijaju podijeliti s muškarcima.
07:36
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:39
It's the only college
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To je jedina škola
07:41
which is fully solar-electrified.
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koja se u potpunosti napaja solarnom energijom
07:45
All the power comes from the sun.
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Sva električna energija dolazi od sunca.
07:47
45 kilowatts of panels on the roof.
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45 kW solarnih ploča na krovu.
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And everything works off the sun for the next 25 years.
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I sve radi pomoću sunca slijedećih 25 godina.
07:51
So long as the sun shines,
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Dok god sija sunce,
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we'll have no problem with power.
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nećemo imati problema s električnom energijom.
07:55
But the beauty is
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No ljepota je u tome
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that is was installed
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što je sve instalirao
08:00
by a priest, a Hindu priest,
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svećenik, hindu svećenik,
08:03
who's only done eight years of primary schooling --
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koji ima samo osnovno školovanje,
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never been to school, never been to college.
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nikad nije bio u školi, ni na fakultetu.
08:09
He knows more about solar
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On zna više o solarnoj energiji
08:11
than anyone I know anywhere in the world guaranteed.
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nego itko koga znam bilo gdje u svijetu, garantirano.
08:17
Food, if you come to the Barefoot College,
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Hrana, ako dođete u Bosonogu školu,
08:19
is solar cooked.
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kuhana je pomoću solarne energije.
08:22
But the people who fabricated that solar cooker
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A osobe koje su proizvele to solarno kuhalo
08:25
are women,
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su žene,
08:28
illiterate women,
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nepismene žene,
08:30
who actually fabricate
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koje zaista proizvode
08:32
the most sophisticated solar cooker.
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najsofisticiranija solarna kuhala.
08:34
It's a parabolic Scheffler solar cooker.
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To je parabolično Sheffler solarno kuhalo.
08:40
Unfortunately, they're almost half German,
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Nažalost, one su gotovo polovinu Njemice,
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they're so precise.
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tako su precizne.
08:46
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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You'll never find Indian women so precise.
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Nikada nećete naći toliko preciznu Indijku.
08:52
Absolutely to the last inch,
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Apsolutno do zadnjeg inča,
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they can make that cooker.
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one mogu proizvesti to kuhalo.
08:56
And we have 60 meals twice a day
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I imamo 60 jela dva puta dnevno
08:58
of solar cooking.
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solarno kuhana.
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We have a dentist --
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Imamo zubaricu,
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she's a grandmother, illiterate, who's a dentist.
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ona je baka, nepismena zubarica.
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She actually looks after the teeth
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Ona se uistinu brine o zubima
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of 7,000 children.
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7.000 djece.
09:11
Barefoot technology:
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Bosonoga tehnologija:
09:13
this was 1986 -- no engineer, no architect thought of it --
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Govorim o 1986. -- bez inženjera, arhitekta koji bi to osmislili --
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but we are collecting rainwater from the roofs.
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skupljali smo kišnicu s krovova.
09:19
Very little water is wasted.
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Jako je malo vode ostalo neiskorišteno.
09:21
All the roofs are connected underground
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Svi su krovovi povezni
09:23
to a 400,000 liter tank,
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podzemnim spremnikom od 400.000 litara
09:25
and no water is wasted.
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i ni jedna kap ne propadne.
09:27
If we have four years of drought, we still have water on the campus,
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U slučaju 4 godine suše, i dalje bismo imali dovoljno vode na kampusu,
09:30
because we collect rainwater.
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jer skupljamo kišnicu.
09:32
60 percent of children don't go to school,
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60 posto djece ne ide u školu
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because they have to look after animals --
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jer se moraju brinuti o životinjama --
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sheep, goats --
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ovcama, kozama --
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domestic chores.
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raditi kućanske poslove.
09:41
So we thought of starting a school
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Pa smo se sjetili započeti
09:44
at night for the children.
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noćnu školu za djecu.
09:46
Because the night schools of Tilonia,
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Zbog noćnih škola Talonije,
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over 75,000 children have gone through these night schools.
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više od 75.000 djece pohađa te noćne škole.
09:51
Because it's for the convenience of the child;
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One su prilagođene potrebama djeteta,
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it's not for the convenience of the teacher.
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a ne potrebama učitelja.
09:55
And what do we teach in these schools?
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Što podučavamo u tim školama?
09:57
Democracy, citizenship,
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Demokraciju, državljanstvo,
09:59
how you should measure your land,
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kako biste trebali mjeriti svoje zemljište,
10:02
what you should do if you're arrested,
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što biste trebali napraviti ako vas uhite,
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what you should do if your animal is sick.
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ili ako vam je životinja bolesna.
10:08
This is what we teach in the night schools.
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To su stvari koje podučavamo u noćnoj školi.
10:10
But all the schools are solar-lit.
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No, sve su škole osvjetljene solarnom energijom.
10:13
Every five years
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Svakih pet godina
10:15
we have an election.
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imamo izbore.
10:17
Between six to 14 year-old children
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Djeca u dobi od šest do 14 godina
10:21
participate in a democratic process,
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sudjeluju u demokratskom procesu
10:24
and they elect a prime minister.
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i biraju premijera.
10:28
The prime minister is 12 years old.
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Premijerka ima 12 godina.
10:32
She looks after 20 goats in the morning,
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Ujutro čuva 20 koza,
10:34
but she's prime minister in the evening.
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a navečer je premijerka.
10:37
She has a cabinet,
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Ima svoj kabinet,
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a minister of education, a minister for energy, a minister for health.
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ministra obrazovanja, ministra energije i ministra zdravstva.
10:42
And they actually monitor and supervise
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Oni zbilja upravljaju i nadgledaju
10:44
150 schools for 7,000 children.
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150 škola za 7.000 djece.
10:49
She got the World's Children's Prize five years ago,
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Prije pet godina osvojila je Svjetsku Dječju Nagradu
10:51
and she went to Sweden.
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i posjetila Švedsku.
10:53
First time ever going out of her village.
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Prvi put je otišla iz svog sela.
10:55
Never seen Sweden.
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Nikada nije vidjela Švedsku.
10:58
Wasn't dazzled at all by what was happening.
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Nije uopće bila očarana događajima oko nje.
11:00
And the Queen of Sweden, who's there,
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I švedska kraljica, koja je bila tamo,
11:02
turned to me and said, "Can you ask this child where she got her confidence from?
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okrenula se prema meni i rekla: "Možete li pitati dijete odakle joj samopouzdanje?
11:05
She's only 12 years old,
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Ima samo 12 godina,
11:07
and she's not dazzled by anything."
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i nije očarana ničime."
11:10
And the girl, who's on her left,
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A djevojčica, koja je stajala s njene lijeve strane,
11:13
turned to me and looked at the queen straight in the eye
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okrene se prema meni i pogleda kraljicu ravno u oči
11:16
and said, "Please tell her I'm the prime minister."
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i kaže: "Molim vas, recite joj da sam premijerka."
11:19
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
11:21
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
11:29
Where the percentage of illiteracy is very high,
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Tamo gdje je postotak nepismenosti jako visok,
11:33
we use puppetry.
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koristimo lutkarstvo.
11:36
Puppets is the way we communicate.
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Lutke su naš način komunikacije.
11:45
You have Jokhim Chacha
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Imamo Jokhima Chachu
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who is 300 years old.
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starog 300 godina.
11:52
He is my psychoanalyst. He is my teacher.
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On je moj psihoanalitičar. On je moj učitelj.
11:55
He's my doctor. He's my lawyer.
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On je moj doktor. On je moj odvjetnik.
11:57
He's my donor.
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On je moj donator.
11:59
He actually raises money,
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On uistinu sakuplja novac,
12:01
solves my disputes.
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rješava moje nesuglasice.
12:04
He solves my problems in the village.
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On rješava moje probleme u selu.
12:07
If there's tension in the village,
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Ukoliko postoji napetost u selu,
12:09
if attendance at the schools goes down
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ukoliko se prisutnost djece u školi smanji
12:11
and there's a friction between the teacher and the parent,
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ili postoji neslaganje između učtelja i roditelja,
12:13
the puppet calls the teacher and the parent in front of the whole village
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lutka pozove učitelja i roditelja ispred cijelog sela
12:16
and says, "Shake hands.
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i kaže: "Rukujte se.
12:18
The attendance must not drop."
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Prisutnost djece u školi ne smije pasti."
12:22
These puppets
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Te su lutke
12:24
are made out of recycled World Bank reports.
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napravljene od recikliranih izvještaja Svjetske Banke.
12:26
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
12:28
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
12:35
So this decentralized, demystified approach
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Tim decentraliziranim, demistificiranim pristupom
12:39
of solar-electrifying villages,
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solarno napajanih sela,
12:41
we've covered all over India
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pokrili smo cijelu Indiju
12:43
from Ladakh up to Bhutan --
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od Ladakha do Bhutana --
12:48
all solar-electrified villages
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sva solarno napajana sela
12:50
by people who have been trained.
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od strane treniranih ljudi.
12:54
And we went to Ladakh,
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Otišli smo u Ladakh,
12:56
and we asked this woman --
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i upitali jednu ženu --
12:58
this, at minus 40, you have to come out of the roof,
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na minus 40, gdje smo morali izaći na krov,
13:01
because there's no place, it was all snowed up on both sides --
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jer nije bilo mjesta, snježni nasipi su bili s obje strane --
13:04
and we asked this woman,
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i upitali smo tu ženu,
13:06
"What was the benefit you had
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"Kakvu si korist imala
13:08
from solar electricity?"
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od solarne energije?"
13:10
And she thought for a minute and said,
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Razmišljala je minutu i rekla,
13:12
"It's the first time I can see my husband's face in winter."
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"Prvi put mogu vidjeti lice svoga muža po zimi."
13:16
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:19
Went to Afghanistan.
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Otišli smo u Afganistan.
13:21
One lesson we learned in India
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U Indiji smo naučili jednu lekciju,
13:26
was men are untrainable.
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muškarce se ne može trenirati.
13:30
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:34
Men are restless,
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Muškarci su nemirni,
13:36
men are ambitious,
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muškarci su ambiciozni,
13:38
men are compulsively mobile,
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oni su kompulzivno mobilni
13:41
and they all want a certificate.
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i svi žele certifikat.
13:43
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:45
All across the globe, you have this tendency
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Globalno postoji težnja
13:48
of men wanting a certificate.
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muškaraca za certifikatom.
13:50
Why? Because they want to leave the village
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Zašto? Zato što žele napustiti selo
13:53
and go to a city, looking for a job.
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i otići u grad, u potrazi za poslom.
13:56
So we came up with a great solution:
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Zato smo smislili odlično rješenje:
13:59
train grandmothers.
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trenirati bake.
14:03
What's the best way of communicating
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Koji je danas najbolji način komunikacije
14:05
in the world today?
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u svijetu?
14:07
Television? No.
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Televizija? Ne.
14:09
Telegraph? No.
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Telegraf? Ne.
14:11
Telephone? No.
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Telefon? Ne.
14:13
Tell a woman.
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Reci ženi.
14:15
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:18
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
14:22
So we went to Afghanistan for the first time,
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I tako smo otišli po prvi put u Afganistan,
14:24
and we picked three women
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i izabrali tri žene
14:26
and said, "We want to take them to India."
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i rekli, "Želimo ih odvesti u Indiju."
14:28
They said, "Impossible. They don't even go out of their rooms,
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One su rekle; "Nemoguće. Ne izlaze niti iz svojih soba,
14:30
and you want to take them to India."
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a vi biste ih vodili u Indiju."
14:32
I said, "I'll make a concession. I'll take the husbands along as well."
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Rekao sam. "Napravit ću iznimku. Povest ću i muževe s njima."
14:34
So I took the husbands along.
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I tako sam poveo i muževe.
14:36
Of course, the women were much more intelligent than the men.
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Naravno, žene su bile mnogo inteligentnije od njih.
14:39
In six months,
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Kako smo u 6 mjeseci
14:41
how do we train these women?
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promijenili te žene?
14:44
Sign language.
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Znakovnim jezikom.
14:46
You don't choose the written word.
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Ne koristite pisanu riječ.
14:49
You don't choose the spoken word.
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Ne koristite izgovorenu riječ.
14:51
You use sign language.
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Koristite znakovni jezik.
14:54
And in six months
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I u tih 6 mjeseci
14:56
they can become solar engineers.
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one mogu postati solarne inženjerke.
15:00
They go back and solar-electrify their own village.
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Vrate se kući i solarno napajaju svoja sela.
15:03
This woman went back
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Jedna se žena vratila kući
15:05
and solar-electrified the first village,
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i postavila solarno napajanje u prvom selu,
15:08
set up a workshop --
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otvorila radionicu --
15:10
the first village ever to be solar-electrified in Afghanistan
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prvo selo sa solarnim napajanjem ikada u Afganistanu
15:13
[was] by the three women.
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produkt je triju žena.
15:16
This woman
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Ta je žena
15:18
is an extraordinary grandmother.
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neobična baka.
15:20
55 years old, and she's solar-electrified 200 houses for me in Afghanistan.
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Stara 55 godina, u moje je ime solarnom energijom opskrbila 200 kuća u Afganistanu.
15:25
And they haven't collapsed.
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I nisu se urušile.
15:28
She actually went and spoke to an engineering department in Afghanistan
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Čak je otišla porazgovarati s odjelom inženjeringa u Afganistanu
15:31
and told the head of the department
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i rekla je šefu odjela
15:33
the difference between AC and DC.
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razliku između izmjenične i istosmjerne struje.
15:35
He didn't know.
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On to nije znao.
15:37
Those three women have trained 27 more women
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Te su tri žene podučile još 27 žena
15:40
and solar-electrified 100 villages in Afghanistan.
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i solarno opskrbile 100 sela u Afganistanu.
15:43
We went to Africa,
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Otišli smo u Afriku,
15:46
and we did the same thing.
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i učinili istu stvar.
15:48
All these women sitting at one table from eight, nine countries,
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Sve te žene sjede za istim stolom, iz osam, devet zemalja,
15:51
all chatting to each other, not understanding a word,
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sve međusobno čavrljaju, a uopće se ne razumiju,
15:54
because they're all speaking a different language.
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zato što govore različitim jezikom.
15:56
But their body language is great.
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No njihov je govor tijela odličan.
15:58
They're speaking to each other
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Međusobno razgovaraju
16:00
and actually becoming solar engineers.
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i uistinu postaju solarne inženjerke.
16:02
I went to Sierra Leone,
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Otišao sam u Sierra Leone,
16:05
and there was this minister driving down in the dead of night --
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a tamo je bio jedan ministar koji se vozio po mrklom mraku --
16:08
comes across this village.
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i ugledao selo.
16:10
Comes back, goes into the village, says, "Well what's the story?"
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Zaustavio se i otišao u selo, govoreći, "Dakle, koja je priča?"
16:13
They said, "These two grandmothers ... "
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Oni su rekli, "Radi se o dvije bake ..."
16:15
"Grandmothers?" The minister couldn't believe what was happening.
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"Bake?" Ministar nije mogao vjerovati što se događa.
16:18
"Where did they go?" "Went to India and back."
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"Kamo su otišle?" "Otišle su do Indije i nazad."
16:21
Went straight to the president.
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Odmah je otišao do predsjednika.
16:23
He said, "Do you know there's a solar-electrified village in Sierra Leone?"
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Rekao je, "Znate li da postoji selo opremljeno solarnom energijom u Sierra Leoni?"
16:25
He said, "No." Half the cabinet went to see the grandmothers the next day.
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Ovaj je rekao, "Ne." Slijedeći dan je pola kabineta otišlo vidjeti bake.
16:28
"What's the story."
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"Koja je priča."
16:30
So he summoned me and said, "Can you train me 150 grandmothers?"
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Pozvao me i rekao, "Možeš li istrenirati 150 baka?"
16:34
I said, "I can't, Mr. President.
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Rekao sam, "Ne mogu, gospodine predsjedniče.
16:36
But they will. The grandmothers will."
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Ali one mogu. Bake mogu."
16:38
So he built me the first Barefoot training center in Sierra Leone.
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I tako mi je izgradio prvi Bosonogi centar za obuku u Sierra Leonu.
16:41
And 150 grandmothers have been trained in Sierra Leone.
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I 150 baka je prošlo obuku u Sierra Leonu.
16:45
Gambia:
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Gambia:
16:47
we went to select a grandmother in Gambia.
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otišli smo izabrati baku iz Gambije.
16:50
Went to this village.
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Otišli smo do jednog sela.
16:52
I knew which woman I would like to take.
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Već sam znao koju bih ženu želio povesti.
16:54
The community got together and said, "Take these two women."
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Zajednica se sastala i rekla, "Uzmi ove dvije žene."
16:57
I said, "No, I want to take this woman."
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Rekao sam, "Ne , želim povesti ovu ženu."
16:59
They said, "Why? She doesn't know the language. You don't know her."
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Oni su rekli, "Zašto? Ona ne zna jezik. Ne poznaješ ju."
17:01
I said, "I like the body language. I like the way she speaks."
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Rekao sam, "Sviđa mi se njen govor tijela. Sviđa mi se način na koji govori."
17:04
"Difficult husband; not possible."
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"Težak suprug; nije moguće."
17:06
Called the husband, the husband came,
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Pozvao sam muža, on stigao,
17:08
swaggering, politician, mobile in his hand. "Not possible."
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razmetljiv, političar, s mobitelom u ruci. "Nemoguće."
17:11
"Why not?" "The woman, look how beautiful she is."
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"Zašto?" "Žena, pogledaj je kako je lijepa."
17:14
I said, "Yeah, she is very beautiful."
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Rekao sam, "Da, veoma je lijepa."
17:16
"What happens if she runs off with an Indian man?"
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"Što će se dogoditi ako pobjegne s Indijcem?"
17:18
That was his biggest fear.
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To mu je bio najveći strah.
17:20
I said, "She'll be happy. She'll ring you up on the mobile."
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Rekao sam, "Bit će sretna. Javljat će ti se mobitelom."
17:23
She went like a grandmother
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Otišla je kao baka
17:26
and came back like a tiger.
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i vratila se kao tigrica.
17:28
She walked out of the plane
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Izašla je iz aviona
17:30
and spoke to the whole press as if she was a veteran.
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i održala govor pred novinarima kao da je veteran.
17:33
She handled the national press,
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Odradila je nacionalne novinare
17:36
and she was a star.
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i bila je zvijezda.
17:38
And when I went back six months later, I said, "Where's your husband?"
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I kada sam se vratio nakon 6 mjeseci, rekao sam, "Gdje ti je suprug?"
17:41
"Oh, somewhere. It doesn't matter."
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"Ma negdje. Nije bitno."
17:43
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
17:45
Success story.
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Priča o uspjehu.
17:47
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
17:49
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
17:52
I'll just wind up by saying
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Završio bih time
17:58
that I think you don't have to look for solutions outside.
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da mislim kako ne trebate tražiti rješenja izvana.
18:02
Look for solutions within.
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Tražite rješenja iznutra.
18:04
And listen to people. They have the solutions in front of you.
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I slušajte ljude koji imaju rješenja pred vama.
18:07
They're all over the world.
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Ima ih diljem svijeta.
18:09
Don't even worry.
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Nemojte se brinuti.
18:11
Don't listen to the World Bank, listen to the people on the ground.
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Ne slušajte Svjetsku Banku, slušajte ljude oko sebe.
18:14
They have all the solutions in the world.
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Oni imaju sva rješenja svijeta.
18:17
I'll end with a quotation by Mahatma Gandhi.
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Završit ću citatom Mahatme Gandhija.
18:20
"First they ignore you,
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"Najprije vas ignoriraju,
18:22
then they laugh at you,
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onda vam se smiju,
18:24
then they fight you,
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onda se bore s vama,
18:26
and then you win."
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onda pobjedite."
18:28
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
18:30
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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