The transformative power of classical music | Benjamin Zander | TED

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Translator: Monika Mändmaa Reviewer: Mailis Laos
00:12
Probably a lot of you know the story of the two salesmen
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Ilmselt paljud teie seast teavad lugu kahest müügimehest,
00:15
who went down to Africa in the 1900s.
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kes läksid 20. sajandi alguses Aafrikasse.
00:18
They were sent down to find if there was any opportunity
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Nad saadeti uurima, kas seal oleks võimalik
00:21
for selling shoes,
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müüa kingi.
00:22
and they wrote telegrams back to Manchester.
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Ja nad saatsid telegramme tagasi Manchesteri.
00:25
And one of them wrote,
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Üks neist kirjutas:
00:26
"Situation hopeless. Stop. They don't wear shoes."
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"Olukord lootusetu. Punkt. Nad ei kanna kingi."
00:30
And the other one wrote,
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Ja teine kirjutas:
00:32
"Glorious opportunity. They don't have any shoes yet."
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"Suurepärane võimalus. Neil pole veel ühtki kinga."
00:35
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
00:36
Now, there's a similar situation in the classical music world,
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Sarnane olukord valitseb klassikalise muusika maailmas,
00:39
because there are some people who think that classical music is dying.
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sest on inimesi, kes arvavad, et klassikaline muusika on hääbumas.
00:44
And there are some of us who think you ain't seen nothing yet.
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Ja on teisi, kes arvavad, et see on alles algus.
00:48
And rather than go into statistics and trends,
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Ja selmet pöörduda statistika ja trendide poole,
00:52
and tell you about all the orchestras that are closing,
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ja rääkida teile orkestritest, mida suletakse,
00:54
and the record companies that are folding,
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ja plaadifirmadest, mis pankrotistuvad,
00:57
I thought we should do an experiment tonight.
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mõtlesin ma, et me võiks täna teha ühe eksperimendi.
Tegelikult see pole päris eksperiment, sest ma tean juba tulemust.
01:01
Actually, it's not really an experiment, because I know the outcome.
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01:04
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
01:05
But it's like an experiment.
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Aga see on eksperimendi moodi.
01:07
Now, before we start --
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Nüüd, enne kui ...
01:09
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
01:12
Before we start, I need to do two things.
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Enne kui alustame, pean ma tegema kaks asja.
01:14
One is I want to remind you of what a seven-year-old child
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Esiteks, tahaksin teile meenutada, kuidas seitsme-aastane laps
01:18
sounds like when he plays the piano.
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kõlab klaverit mängides.
01:20
Maybe you have this child at home.
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Võib-olla teil on selline laps kodus.
01:22
He sounds something like this.
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Ta kõlab umbes niimoodi.
01:24
(Music)
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(Muusika)
01:42
(Music ends)
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(Muusika lõpeb)
01:44
I see some of you recognize this child.
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Ma näen, et mõned tundsid selle lapse ära.
01:47
Now, if he practices for a year and takes lessons, he's now eight
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Kui ta nüüd harjutab aastakese ja käib tundides, ta on nüüd kaheksane
01:50
and he sounds like this.
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ja ta kõlab niimoodi.
01:51
(Music)
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(Muusika)
(Muusika lõpeb)
01:58
(Music ends)
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01:59
He practices for another year and takes lessons -- he's nine.
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Siis ta harjutab veel ühe aasta ja võtab tunde - ta on üheksane.
02:02
(Music)
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(Muusika)
02:07
(Music ends)
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(Muusika lõpeb)
02:08
Then he practices for another year and takes lessons -- now he's 10.
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Siis ta harjutab veel ühe aasta käib tundides - nüüd on ta kümnene.
(Muusika)
02:12
(Music)
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02:16
(Music ends)
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(Muusika lõpeb)
Sellel hetkel ta tavaliselt loobub.
02:18
At that point, they usually give up.
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02:19
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
02:21
(Applause)
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(Aplaus)
02:23
Now, if you'd waited for one more year, you would have heard this.
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Kui te oleksite veel aasta oodanud, oleksite kuulnud seda.
02:27
(Music)
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(Muusika)
02:35
(Music ends)
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(Muusika lõpeb)
02:36
Now, what happened was not maybe what you thought,
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Mis nüüd juhtus polnud see, nagu te võib-olla arvasite,
02:39
which is, he suddenly became passionate, engaged,
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et ta äkitselt muutus kirglikuks, pühendunuks,
02:42
involved, got a new teacher, he hit puberty, or whatever it is.
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haaratuks, sai uue õpetaja, jõudis puberteeti või midagi sellist.
02:46
What actually happened was the impulses were reduced.
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Mis tegelikult juhtus, oli see, et rõhutamine harvenes.
02:50
You see, the first time, he was playing with an impulse on every note.
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Esimest korda, mängis ta rõhutades igat nooti.
02:53
(Music)
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(Muusika)
02:56
And the second, with an impulse every other note.
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Teist korda, rõhuga igal teisel noodil.
02:58
(Music)
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(Muusika)
03:01
You can see it by looking at my head.
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Te märkate seda, kui vaatate mu pead.
03:03
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
03:04
The nine-year-old put an impulse on every four notes.
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Üheksa-aastane pani rõhu igale neljandale noodile.
03:08
(Music)
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(Muusika)
03:10
The 10-year-old, on every eight notes.
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Kümneaastane igale kaheksandale noodile
03:12
(Music)
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(Muusika)
03:14
And the 11-year-old, one impulse on the whole phrase.
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Ja üheteistaastane ühe rõhu tervele fraasile.
03:17
(Music)
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(Muusika)
03:20
I don't know how we got into this position.
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Ma ei tea, kuidas ma sattusin sellesse asendisse.
03:22
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
03:24
I didn't say, "I'm going to move my shoulder over, move my body."
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Ma ei mõelnud, et liigutan oma õla ette, liigutan oma keha.
03:28
No, the music pushed me over,
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Ei, muusika lükkas mu viltu,
03:29
which is why I call it one-buttock playing.
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mistõttu ma kutsun seda ühe-kannika mänguks.
03:31
(Music)
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(Muusika)
03:33
It can be the other buttock.
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See võib olla ka teine kannikas.
03:35
(Music)
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(Muusika)
03:38
You know, a gentleman was once watching a presentation I was doing,
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Kord vaatas üks härra ettekannet, mis ma tegin,
03:42
when I was working with a young pianist.
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kus ma töötasin ühe noore pianistiga.
03:44
He was the president of a corporation in Ohio.
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Ta oli ühe korporatsiooni president Ohios.
03:46
I was working with this young pianist, and said,
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Ma töötasin selle noore pianistiga ja ütlesin:
03:48
"The trouble with you is you're a two-buttock player.
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"Sinu viga on selles, et sa oled kahe-kannika mängija.
03:51
You should be a one-buttock player."
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Sa peaksid olema ühe-kannika mängija."
03:52
I moved his body while he was playing.
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Ma liigutasin ta keha, mängimise ajal.
03:54
And suddenly, the music took off. It took flight.
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Ja äkitselt, muusika tõusis lendu. See võttis tuule alla.
03:57
The audience gasped when they heard the difference.
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Publik ahhetas, kui kuulis muutust.
03:59
Then I got a letter from this gentleman.
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Siis sain ma kirja sellelt härrasmehelt.
04:01
He said, "I was so moved.
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Ta ütles: "Ma olin nii liigutatud.
04:03
I went back and I transformed my entire company
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Ma läksin tagasi ja muutsin oma firma
04:05
into a one-buttock company."
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ühe-kannika firmaks."
04:06
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
04:10
Now, the other thing I wanted to do is to tell you about you.
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Teine asi, mis ma tahtsin teha, oli rääkida teile teist.
04:13
There are 1,600 people, I believe.
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Siin on 1600 inimenest, ma arvan.
04:15
My estimation is that probably 45 of you
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Minu hinnangul on arvatavasti 45 inimest teie hulgast
04:18
are absolutely passionate about classical music.
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üdini kirglikud klassikalise muusika suhtes.
04:21
You adore classical music. Your FM is always on that classical dial.
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Te jumaldate klassikalist muusikat. Te raadio on alati klassika peal.
04:26
You have CDs in your car, and you go to the symphony,
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Teil on CD-d autos ja te käite sümfooniaid kuulamas,
04:29
your children are playing instruments.
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teie lapsed mängivad pilli.
Te ei kujuta oma elu ette ilma klassikalise muusikata.
04:31
You can't imagine your life without classical music.
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04:33
That's the first group, quite small.
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See esimene rühm on üsna väike.
04:35
Then there's another bigger group.
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Siis on järgmine, suurem rühm.
04:37
The people who don't mind classical music.
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Inimesed, kes ei pane klassikalist muusikat pahaks.
04:39
(Laughter)
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04:40
You know, you've come home from a long day,
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(Naer)
Teate, tulete koju peale pikka päeva
04:42
and you take a glass of wine, and you put your feet up.
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ja võtate klaasi veini ja panete jalad toolile.
04:45
A little Vivaldi in the background doesn't do any harm.
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Natuke Vivaldit taustal ei sega.
04:48
That's the second group.
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See on teine rühm.
04:49
Now comes the third group:
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Nüüd on kolmas rühm -
04:50
people who never listen to classical music.
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inimesed, kes ei kuula kunagi klassikalist muusikat.
04:53
It's just simply not part of your life.
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See pole osa teie elust.
04:55
You might hear it like second-hand smoke at the airport ...
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Te võite seda kogeda passiivselt, nagu sigaretisuitsu, lennujaamas.
04:58
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
04:59
-- and maybe a little bit of a march from "Aida"
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Ja võib-olla üks väike marss "Aidast"
05:01
when you come into the hall.
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kui te sisenete koridori.
05:02
But otherwise, you never hear it.
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Kuid muidu, ei kuule te seda kunagi.
05:04
That's probably the largest group.
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See on ilmselt kõige suurem rühm.
05:06
And then there's a very small group.
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Ja siis on veel üks tilluke rühm.
05:07
These are the people who think they're tone-deaf.
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Need on inimesed, kes arvavad, et neil pole muusikalist kuulmist.
Hämmastav hulk inimesi arvab, et neil pole "kõrva".
05:11
Amazing number of people think they're tone-deaf.
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05:13
Actually, I hear a lot, "My husband is tone-deaf."
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Tegelikult kuulen tihti: "Mu abikaasal pole kuulmist".
05:15
(Laughter)
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05:16
Actually, you cannot be tone-deaf.
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(Naer)
Tegelikult, pole see võimalik.
05:18
Nobody is tone-deaf.
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Igaühel on "kõrva".
05:20
If you were tone-deaf, you couldn't change the gears
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Kui teil poleks, te ei saaks käiku vahetada
05:22
on your car, in a stick shift car.
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oma manuaal-käigukastiga autos.
05:24
You couldn't tell the difference between
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Te ei suudaks eristada
05:26
somebody from Texas and somebody from Rome.
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inimest Texasest ja inimest Roomast.
05:29
And the telephone. The telephone.
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Ja telefon.
05:31
If your mother calls
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Kui teie ema helistab
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on the miserable telephone, she calls and says, "Hello,"
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oma viletsa telefoniga, ta helistab ja ütleb "Halloo",
05:35
you not only know who it is, you know what mood she's in.
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te mõistate mitte üksnes, kes see on, vaid ka, mis tuju tal on.
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You have a fantastic ear. Everybody has a fantastic ear.
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Teil on imeline kuulmine. Igaühel on imeline kuulmine.
05:42
So nobody is tone-deaf.
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Seega kõigil on muusikaline kuulmine.
05:44
But I tell you what.
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Aga ma ütlen teile.
05:45
It doesn't work for me to go on with this thing,
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ma pole nõus niimoodi jätkama,
05:48
with such a wide gulf between those who understand,
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sellise suure lõhega nende vahel, kes mõistavad,
05:52
love and are passionate about classical music,
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armastavad ja on kirglikud klassikalise muusika vastu,
05:55
and those who have no relationship to it at all.
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ja nende vahel, kellel pole sellega mingit suhet.
05:57
The tone-deaf people, they're no longer here.
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Muusikalise kuulmiseta inimesi, neid enam pole.
06:00
But even between those three categories,
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Aga isegi nende kolme rühma vahel,
06:02
it's too wide a gulf.
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on liiga suur kuristik.
06:03
So I'm not going to go on until every single person in this room,
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Seega ma ei jätka enne, kui iga viimane inimene selles ruumis,
06:08
downstairs and in Aspen, and everybody else looking,
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all saalis ja kõrgmägedes, ja kõik, kes vaatavad,
06:12
will come to love and understand classical music.
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hakkavad armastama ja mõistma klassikalist muusikat.
06:17
So that's what we're going to do.
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Seda me nüüd teemegi.
06:18
Now, you notice that there is not the slightest doubt in my mind
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Nagu näete, pole mul kübetki kõhklust
06:24
that this is going to work, if you look at my face, right?
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et see tuleb välja, kui te mu nägu vaatate, eks?
06:27
It's one of the characteristics of a leader that he not doubt
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See on üks juhi omadustest, et ta ei kahtle
06:31
for one moment the capacity of the people he's leading
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hetkeksi nende inimeste võimetes, keda ta juhib.
06:35
to realize whatever he's dreaming.
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tema visiooni täideviimisel.
Kujutlege, kui Martin Luther King oleks öelnud: "Mul on unistus.
06:38
Imagine if Martin Luther King had said, "I have a dream.
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06:40
Of course, I'm not sure they'll be up to it."
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Aga ma pole kindel, et nad on selleks valmis."
06:43
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
06:46
All right. So I'm going to take a piece of Chopin.
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Olgu. Ma võtan ühe Chopini pala.
06:48
This is a beautiful prelude by Chopin.
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See on kaunis prelüüd Chopinilt.
06:51
Some of you will know it.
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Mõned teist teavad seda.
06:53
(Music)
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(Muusika)
07:23
Do you know what I think probably happened here?
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Teate, mis ma arvan, et siin juhtus?
07:25
When I started, you thought, "How beautiful that sounds."
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Kui ma alustasin, te mõtlesite: "Kui kaunilt see kõlab!"
07:28
(Music)
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(Muusika)
07:41
"I don't think we should go to the same place
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"Ma arvan, et me ei peaks järgmisel aastal
07:43
for our summer holidays next year."
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samasse kohta suvepuhkusele minema."
07:45
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
07:47
It's funny, isn't it?
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See on naljakas, eks?
07:49
It's funny how those thoughts kind of waft into your head.
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See on naljakas, kuidas sellised mõtted hõljuvad teie peadesse.
07:54
And of course --
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Ja muidugi ...
07:55
(Applause)
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(Aplaus)
07:57
Of course, if the piece is long and you've had a long day,
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Muidugi, kui lugu on pikk ja teil on pikk päev seljataga,
08:00
you might actually drift off.
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te võite ära vajuda.
08:01
Then your companion will dig you in the ribs
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Siis teie kaaslane äsab teile ribidesse
08:03
and say, "Wake up! It's culture!" And then you feel even worse.
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ja ütleb: "Ärka üles! See on kultuur!" Ja te tunnete end veelgi halvemini.
08:07
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
08:08
But has it ever occurred to you that the reason you feel sleepy
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Kas teile on kunagi tulnud pähe, et põhjus, mis te olete unine
klassikalise muusika ajal, ei ole teie, vaid meie pärast?
08:11
in classical music is not because of you, but because of us?
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08:13
Did anybody think while I was playing,
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Kas keegi teist mõtles mu mängu ajal:
08:15
"Why is he using so many impulses?"
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"Miks ta nii palju rõhke kasutab?"
08:17
If I'd done this with my head you certainly would have thought it.
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Kui ma oleks seda koos peaga teinud, oleks te kindlasti seda mõelnud.
08:20
(Music)
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(Muusika)
08:26
(Music ends)
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(Muusika lõpeb)
08:27
And for the rest of your life, every time you hear classical music,
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Ja kogu ülejäänud elu, alati kui kuulete klassikalist muusikat,
08:31
you'll always be able to know if you hear those impulses.
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olete alati võimelised ära tundma, kas te kuulete neid rõhke.
08:35
So let's see what's really going on here.
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Vaatame, mis siin tegelikult toimub.
08:37
We have a B. This is a B.
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Meil on siin B. See on B.
08:40
The next note is a C.
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Järgmine noot on C.
08:41
And the job of the C is to make the B sad.
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Ja C töö on muuta B kurvaks.
08:44
And it does, doesn't it?
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Ja ta teeb seda, kas pole?
08:45
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
08:47
Composers know that.
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Heliloojad teavad seda.
08:48
If they want sad music, they just play those two notes.
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Kui nad tahavad kurba muusikat, mängitakse lihtsalt neid kahte nooti.
08:51
(Music)
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(Muusika)
08:55
But basically, it's just a B, with four sads.
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Aga põhimõtteliselt on see lihtsalt B, koos nelja kurvaga.
08:57
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
09:00
Now, it goes down to A.
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Nüüd läheb see A-sse.
09:03
Now to G.
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Nüüd G.
09:04
And then to F.
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Ja siis F.
09:05
So we have B, A, G, F.
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Seega meil on B, A, G, F.
09:08
And if we have B, A, G, F,
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Ja kui meil on B, A, G, F,
09:10
what do we expect next?
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mida me ootame järgmisena?
09:11
(Music)
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(Muusika)
09:15
That might have been a fluke.
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See võis olla juhus.
09:16
Let's try it again.
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Proovime uuesti.
09:17
(Music)
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(Muusika)
09:21
Oh, the TED choir.
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09:22
(Laughter)
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TEDi koor!
(Naer)
09:26
And you notice nobody is tone-deaf, right?
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Ja märkasite, et kõigil on muusikaline kuulmine, eks?
09:28
Nobody is.
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Kõigil.
09:30
You know, every village in Bangladesh
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Igas külas Bangladeshis
09:32
and every hamlet in China -- everybody knows:
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ja igas Hiina asulas - kõik teavad:
09:36
da, da, da, da -- da.
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taa, taa, taa, taa - taaaa.
09:39
Everybody knows, who's expecting that E.
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Kõik teavad, ootavad seda E-d.
09:41
Chopin didn't want to reach the E there,
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Chopin ei tahtnud E-ni jõuda selles kohas,
09:43
because what will have happened?
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sest mis siis oleks juhtunud?
09:45
It will be over, like Hamlet. Do you remember?
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See oleks läbi, nagu Hamlet. Mäletate Hamletit?
09:48
Act One, scene three,
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Esimene vaatus, kolmas stseen,
09:49
he finds out his uncle killed his father.
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ta saab teada, et tema onu tappis ta isa.
09:51
He keeps on going up to his uncle and almost killing him.
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Ta käib üha oma onu juures ja peaaegu tapab ta.
Aga siis ta loobub, ta läheb jälle tema juurde, peaaegu tapab.
09:54
And then he backs away, he goes up to him again, almost kills him.
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Ja kriitikud tagareas,
09:57
The critics sitting in the back row there,
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neil peab olema mingi arvamus, nii nad ütlevad: "Hamlet on edasilükkaja".
09:59
they have to have an opinion, so they say, "Hamlet is a procrastinator."
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10:03
Or they say, "Hamlet has an Oedipus complex."
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Või nad ütlevad: "Hamletil on Oidipuse kompleks."
10:05
No, otherwise the play would be over, stupid.
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Ei! Muidu saaks etendus ju läbi, tobud!
10:07
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
Seepärast paneb Shakespeare kogu selle värgi Hamletisse -
10:09
That's why Shakespeare puts all that stuff in Hamlet --
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10:11
Ophelia going mad, the play within the play,
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Ophelia hullumise, etendus etenduses,
10:13
and Yorick's skull, and the gravediggers.
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Yoricku pealuu ja hauakaevajad.
10:15
That's in order to delay --
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See on selleks, et viivitada -
10:17
until Act Five, he can kill him.
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viienda vaatuseni, kus ta tema tapab.
10:19
It's the same with the Chopin.
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Sama lugu on Chopiniga.
10:21
He's just about to reach the E,
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Ta hakkab just E-ni jõudma,
10:23
and he says, "Oops, better go back up and do it again."
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ja ütleb: "Oih, ma parem lähen tagasi üles ja kordan seda."
10:26
So he does it again.
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Nii ta kordab seda.
10:28
Now, he gets excited.
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Nüüd ta erutub.
10:29
(Music)
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(Muusika)
10:32
That's excitement, don't worry about it.
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See on erutus, ärge muretsege.
10:34
Now, he gets to F-sharp, and finally he goes down to E,
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Nüüd ta läheb F-dieesi, ja lõpuks jõuab ta alla E-sse,
10:38
but it's the wrong chord --
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aga tal on vale akord -
10:39
because the chord he's looking for is this one,
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sest akord, mida ta ootab; on see
10:42
and instead he does ...
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ja selle asemel ta teeb ...
10:44
Now, we call that a deceptive cadence,
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Me nimetame seda poolikuks kadentsiks,
10:47
because it deceives us.
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sest ei paku lahendust.
10:48
I tell my students, "If you have a deceptive cadence,
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Ma räägin oma õpilastele: "Kui tuleb poolik kadents,
tõstke oma kulme, siis kõik teavad."
10:51
raise your eyebrows, and everybody will know."
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10:53
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
10:55
(Applause)
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(Aplaus)
10:58
Right.
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11:00
He gets to E, but it's the wrong chord.
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Ta jõuab E-sse, aga see on vale akord.
11:02
Now, he tries E again.
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Ta proovib veel E-d.
11:03
That chord doesn't work.
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See akord ei sobi.
11:05
Now, he tries the E again. That chord doesn't work.
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Ta proovib E-d jälle. See akord ei sobi.
11:07
Now, he tries E again, and that doesn't work.
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Ta proovib veel E-d, ja see ei sobi.
11:10
And then finally ...
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Ja lõpuks...
11:14
There was a gentleman in the front row who went, "Mmm."
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Esireas oli üks härra, kes tegi: "Mmm."
11:17
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
11:18
It's the same gesture he makes when he comes home
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See on sama liigutus, mis ta teeb, kui jõuab koju
peale pikka päeva, peatab auto mootori ja ütleb:
11:21
after a long day, turns off the key in his car and says,
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11:24
"Aah, I'm home."
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"Aah, ma olen kodus."
11:25
Because we all know where home is.
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Sest me kõik teame, kus kodu on.
11:27
So this is a piece which goes from away to home.
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Niisiis see on pala, mis käib ära ja tuleb koju.
11:30
I'm going to play it all the way through and you're going to follow.
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Ma mängin selle otsast lõpuni ja teie jälgite.
11:33
B, C, B, C, B, C, B --
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B,C,B,C,B,C,B -
11:35
down to A, down to G, down to F.
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A-sse, G-sse, F-i.
11:37
Almost goes to E, but otherwise the play would be over.
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Peaaegu tuleb E-sse, aga muidu oleks etendus läbi.
11:39
He goes back up to B, he gets very excited.
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Ta läheb tagasi B-sse, erutub väga.
11:41
Goes to F-sharp. Goes to E.
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Läheb F-dieesi. Läheb E-sse.
11:43
It's the wrong chord. It's the wrong chord.
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Vale akord. Vale akord.
11:45
And finally goes to E, and it's home.
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Ja lõpuks ta läheb E-sse, ja seal on kodu.
11:47
And what you're going to see is one-buttock playing.
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Ja te näete nüüd ühe-kannika mängu.
11:51
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
11:53
Because for me, to join the B to the E,
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Sest kui ma tahan ühendada B E-ga,
11:56
I have to stop thinking about every single note along the way,
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ma ei saa mõelda igale noodile, mis tee peale jääb,
12:02
and start thinking about the long, long line from B to E.
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ma pean mõtlema pikale teekonnale B-st E-sse.
12:07
You know, we were just in South Africa, and you can't go to South Africa
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Me olime just Lõuna-Aafrikas, ja ei saa minna Lõuna-Aafrikasse
12:12
without thinking of Mandela in jail for 27 years.
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mõtlemata Mandela 27-aastasele vangistusele.
12:15
What was he thinking about? Lunch?
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Millele ta mõtles? Lõunasöögile?
12:17
No, he was thinking about the vision for South Africa
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Ei, ta mõtles Lõuna-Aafrika tulevikule,
12:21
and for human beings.
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inimeste tulevikule.
12:22
This is about vision. This is about the long line.
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Asi on visioonis. Asi on pikemas perspektiivis.
12:25
Like the bird who flies over the field
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Nagu lind, kes lendab üle põllu
12:27
and doesn't care about the fences underneath, all right?
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ega hooli aedadest allpool, eksole?
12:31
So now, you're going to follow the line all the way from B to E.
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Nüüd siis jälgite te teekonda B-st E-sse.
12:34
And I've one last request before I play this piece all the way through.
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Ja mul on veel üks palve, enne kui ma mängin selle pala otsast lõpuni.
12:38
Would you think of somebody who you adore,
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Kas võiksite mõelda kellelegi, keda jumaldate,
12:42
who's no longer there?
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kuid keda enam pole?
12:44
A beloved grandmother, a lover --
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Armastatud vanaema, kallim -
12:47
somebody in your life who you love with all your heart,
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keegi teie elus, keda te armastasite südamepõhjast,
12:51
but that person is no longer with you.
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kuid keda pole enam teiega.
12:54
Bring that person into your mind,
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Manage see inimene silme ette
12:56
and at the same time,
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ja samal ajal
12:58
follow the line all the way from B to E,
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jälgige teekonda B-st E-sse
13:01
and you'll hear everything that Chopin had to say.
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ja te kuulete kõike, mis Copinil oli öelda.
13:10
(Music)
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(Muusika)
14:57
(Music ends)
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(Muusika lõpeb)
15:00
(Applause)
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(Aplaus)
15:08
Now, you may be wondering --
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Te võite mõelda ...
15:10
(Applause)
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(Aplaus)
15:15
(Applause ends)
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(Aplaus lõpeb)
Te võite imestada, miks mina plaksutan.
15:17
You may be wondering why I'm clapping.
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15:18
Well, I did this at a school in Boston
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Ma tegin seda ühes koolis Bostonis
15:20
with about 70 seventh graders, 12-year-olds.
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umbes 70 seitsmendikuga, 12-aastastega.
15:24
I did exactly what I did with you,
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Ma tegin täpselt nii, nagu teiega tegin,
15:26
and I explained the whole thing.
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ja ma seletasin kõike seda.
15:28
At the end, they went crazy, clapping.
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Lõpus nad läksid pööraseks, plaksutasid.
15:30
I was clapping. They were clapping.
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Mina plaksustasin. Nemad plaksutasid.
15:31
Finally, I said, "Why am I clapping?"
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Lõpuks ma küsisin: "Miks mina plaksutan?"
15:33
And one of them said, "Because we were listening."
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Ja üks lastest ütles: "Sest meie kuulasime."
15:36
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
15:40
Think of it. 1,600 people, busy people,
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Mõelge sellele. 1600 inimest, töist inimest,
15:43
involved in all sorts of different things,
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igasugu erinevatest valdkondadest,
15:45
listening, understanding and being moved
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kuulamas, mõistmas ja liigutatud
15:49
by a piece by Chopin.
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Chopini palast.
15:51
Now, that is something.
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See juba on midagi.
15:52
Am I sure that every single person followed that,
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Kas ma olen kindel, et igaüks jälgis seda,
15:55
understood it, was moved by it?
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mõistis seda, oli liigutatud?
15:57
Of course, I can't be sure.
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Muidugi, ei saa ma kindel olla.
15:58
But I'll tell you what happened to me in Ireland
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Aga ma räägin, mis juhtus minuga Iirimaal
16:00
during the Troubles, 10 years ago,
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10 aastat tagasi,
16:02
and I was working with some Catholic and Protestant kids
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ma töötasin katoliikliklastest ja luterlastest lastega
16:05
on conflict resolution.
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konflikti lahendamise teemal.
16:07
And I did this with them --
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Ja ma tegin neile seda -
16:09
a risky thing to do, because they were street kids.
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riskantne ettevõtmine, sest need olid tänavalapsed.
16:13
And one of them came to me the next morning
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Ja üks neist tuli minu juurde järgmisel hommikul
16:15
and he said,
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16:16
"You know, I've never listened to classical music in my life,
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ja ütles:
"Tead, ma pole kunagi kuulanud klassikalist muusikat,
16:19
but when you played that shopping piece ..."
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aga kui sa mängisid seda šoppamislugu ..."
16:21
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
16:23
He said, "My brother was shot last year and I didn't cry for him.
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Ta ütles: "Mu vend lasti maha eelmisel aastal ja ma ei nutnud tema pärast.
16:27
But last night, when you played that piece,
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Aga eile, kui sa mängisid seda pala,
16:29
he was the one I was thinking about.
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mõtlesin ma tema peale.
16:32
And I felt the tears streaming down my face.
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Ja ma tundsin pisaraid mööda nägu voolamas.
16:34
And it felt really good to cry for my brother."
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Ja oli väga hea tunne nutta oma venna pärast."
16:37
So I made up my mind at that moment
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Seega ma otsustasin sellel hetkel,
16:40
that classical music is for everybody.
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et klassikaline muusika on kõigi jaoks.
16:45
Everybody.
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Igaühele.
16:47
Now, how would you walk --
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Kuidas sa käid -
16:49
my profession, the music profession doesn't see it that way.
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minu erialal, muusikud ei näe seda niimoodi.
16:53
They say three percent of the population likes classical music.
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Nad ütlevad, et 3% inimestele meeldib klassikaline muusika.
16:57
If only we could move it to four percent, our problems would be over.
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Kui me suudaks kuidagi liikuda neljale protsendile, oleks mured murtud.
17:00
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
17:01
How would you walk? How would you talk? How would you be?
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Kuidas sa käid? Kuidas sa räägid? Kuidas sa oled,
17:05
If you thought, "Three percent of the population likes classical music,
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kui sa usud: "3%-le inimestest meeldib klassikaline muusika,
17:08
if only we could move it to four percent."
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kui me saaks liikuda neljale."
17:10
How would you walk or talk? How would you be?
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Kuidas sa käiks või räägiks? Kuidas sa oleks,
17:12
If you thought, "Everybody loves classical music --
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kui sa usuks, et igaüks armastab klassikalist muusikat -
17:15
they just haven't found out about it yet."
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nad lihtsalt ei tea seda veel.
17:17
See, these are totally different worlds.
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Need on täiesti erinevad maailmad.
17:20
Now, I had an amazing experience.
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Mul oli imeline kogemuse.
17:22
I was 45 years old,
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Ma olin 45-aastane,
17:24
I'd been conducting for 20 years,
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olin dirigeerinud 20 aastat,
17:25
and I suddenly had a realization.
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ja äkki ma taipasin.
17:28
The conductor of an orchestra doesn't make a sound.
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Orkestri dirigent ei tee ühtki häält.
17:32
My picture appears on the front of the CD --
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Minu pilt on plaadiümbrisel ...
17:35
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
17:37
But the conductor doesn't make a sound.
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Aga dirigent ei tee häält.
17:39
He depends, for his power,
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Tema võim sõltub
17:41
on his ability to make other people powerful.
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oskusest muuta teisi inimesi võimsaks.
17:45
And that changed everything for me.
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Ja see muutis minu jaoks kõik.
17:47
It was totally life-changing.
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See muutis täielikult mu elu.
17:49
People in my orchestra said,
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Inimesed mu orkestris ütlesid:
17:50
"Ben, what happened?" That's what happened.
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"Ben, mis juhtus?" See juhtuski.
17:53
I realized my job was to awaken possibility in other people.
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Ma mõistsin, et minu töö on äratada potentsiaal teistes inimestes.
17:58
And of course, I wanted to know whether I was doing that.
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Ja loomulikult tahtsin teada, kas ma teen seda.
18:01
How do you find out?
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Teate, kuidas teada saada?
18:02
You look at their eyes.
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Tuleb vaadata nende silmadesse.
18:04
If their eyes are shining, you know you're doing it.
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Kui nende silmad säravad, siis sa tead, et sa teed seda.
18:08
You could light up a village with this guy's eyes.
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Terve küla võiks ära valgustada selle selli silmadega.
18:10
(Laughter)
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(Naer)
18:11
Right. So if the eyes are shining, you know you're doing it.
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Ehk, kui silmad säravad, siis tead, et teed seda.
18:14
If the eyes are not shining, you get to ask a question.
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Kui silmad ei sära, siis saad küsida.
18:17
And this is the question:
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Ja küsimus on selline:
18:18
who am I being
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kes ma olen,
18:21
that my players' eyes are not shining?
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et mu mängijate silmad ei sära?
18:23
We can do that with our children, too.
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Me saame seda oma lastega ka teha.
18:25
Who am I being,
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Kes ma olen,
18:28
that my children's eyes are not shining?
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et minu laste silmad ei sära?
18:31
That's a totally different world.
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See on täiesti teine maailm.
18:33
Now, we're all about to end this magical, on-the-mountain week,
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Nüüd kui meie imeline teekond hakkab lõpule jõudma,
18:38
we're going back into the world.
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laskume jälle alla maa peale.
18:40
And I say, it's appropriate for us to ask the question,
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Ja meil tuleks esitada endale küsimus:
18:44
who are we being as we go back out into the world?
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millised me oleme, kui oleme taas maa peal?
18:49
And you know, I have a definition of success.
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Ja teate, mul on edu valem.
18:52
For me, it's very simple.
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Mulle on see väga lihtne.
18:53
It's not about wealth and fame and power.
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See ei seostu rikkuse, kuulsuse ja võimuga.
18:55
It's about how many shining eyes I have around me.
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See seostub paljude säravate silmadega minu ümber.
18:58
So now, I have one last thought,
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Mul on üks viimane mõte,
19:00
which is that it really makes a difference what we say --
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sellest, et on väga oluline, mida me ütleme -
19:05
the words that come out of our mouth.
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sõnad, mis tulevad üle meie huulte.
19:07
I learned this from a woman who survived Auschwitz,
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Ma kuulsin seda ühelt naiselt, kes pääses Auschwitzist,
19:10
one of the rare survivors.
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ühelt vähestest pääsejatest.
19:11
She went to Auschwitz when she was 15 years old.
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Ta läkes Auschwitzi kui ta oli 15-aastane.
19:16
And ...
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Ja ...
19:19
And her brother was eight,
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ta vend oli kaheksane
19:21
and the parents were lost.
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ja nende vanemad olid kadunud.
19:23
And she told me this, she said,
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Ja ta rääkis mulle, ta ütles:
19:28
"We were in the train going to Auschwitz,
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"Me olime rongis teel Auschwitzi,
19:30
and I looked down and saw my brother's shoes were missing.
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ja ma vaatasin alla ja nägin, et venna kingad olid kadunud.
19:34
I said, 'Why are you so stupid, can't you keep your things together
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Ja ma ütlesin: "Kuidas sa oled nii loll; et sa ei suuda oma asju koos hoida,
19:37
for goodness' sake?'"
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jumalapärast!""
19:38
The way an elder sister might speak to a younger brother.
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Nagu vanem õde võib nooremale vennale öelda.
19:43
Unfortunately, it was the last thing she ever said to him,
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Kahjuks, see oli viimane asi, mis ta talle ütles,
19:46
because she never saw him again.
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sest rohkem ta teda enam ei näinud.
19:47
He did not survive.
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Ta ei jäänud ellu.
19:49
And so when she came out of Auschwitz, she made a vow.
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Niisiis, kui ta tuli Auschwitzist tagasi, andis ta lubaduse.
19:52
She told me this.
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Ta rääkis mulle.
19:53
She said, "I walked out of Auschwitz into life
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Ta ütles: "Ma sammusin Auschwitzist välja ellu
19:57
and I made a vow.
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ja ma andsin tõotuse.
19:58
And the vow was,
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Ja see tõotus oli: "Ma ei ütle kunagi midagi,
20:00
"I will never say anything that couldn't stand as the last thing I ever say."
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mis ei võiks jääda mu viimasteks sõnadeks.""
20:06
Now, can we do that? No.
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Kas me suudame seda? Ei.
20:08
And we'll make ourselves wrong and others wrong.
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Ja me teeme endale liiga ja teistele liiga.
20:12
But it is a possibility to live into.
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Aga selle nimel on võimalik elada.
20:15
Thank you.
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Tänan.
20:17
(Applause)
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(Aplaus)
20:23
Shining eyes.
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Säravad silmad.
(Apalus)
20:25
(Applause)
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20:26
Shining eyes.
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Säravad silmad.
20:27
(Applause)
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(Aplaus)
20:34
Thank you, thank you.
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Tänan, tänan.
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