My escape from North Korea | Hyeonseo Lee | TED

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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譯者: Chengrui Wang 審譯者: Cheno Chen
我小的時候以為
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When I was little, I thought my country was the best on the planet.
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我住在全世界最棒的國家
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And I grew up singing a song called "Nothing To Envy."
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有首叫做「我們最幸福」 的歌陪伴著我長大
當時 我好驕傲
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And I was very proud.
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In school, we spent a lot of time studying the history of Kim Il-Sung,
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在學校 我們花很多時間
學習有關金日成的歷史
00:29
but we never learned much about the outside world,
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但從來沒有人告訴我們 外面的世界長甚麼樣子
我們只知道 美國 南韓 和日本 都是敵人
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except that America, South Korea, Japan are the enemies.
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即便我對外面的世界充滿好奇心
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Although I often wondered about the outside world,
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那時的我也沒想過 自己這輩子會離開北韓
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I thought I would spend my entire life in North Korea,
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00:46
until everything suddenly changed.
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直到一切忽然急轉直下
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When I was seven years old, I saw my first public execution.
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我七歲那年 第一次看到公開處刑
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But I thought my life in North Korea was normal.
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但我還是覺得在北韓的生活很正常
我的家境並不窮困
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My family was not poor,
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and myself, I had never experienced hunger.
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而我也不曾餓過肚子
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But one day, in 1995, my mom brought home a letter
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1995 年的某一天 我媽媽帶了一封信回到家
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from a coworker's sister.
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那封信是她同事的姊姊寄的
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It read, "When you read this,
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信上寫著 「當你讀到這些字的時候 我們一家五口
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our five family members will not exist in this world,
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已經離開這個世界了
因為我們已經足足餓了兩個禮拜
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because we haven't eaten for the past three weeks.
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We are lying on the floor together,
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我們五個人現在全倒在地上
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and our bodies are so weak, we are waiting to die."
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身體虛弱地 感受死亡的逼近」
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I was so shocked.
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我當下真的好震驚
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This was the first time I heard that people in my country were suffering.
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那是我第一次知道
原來我們國家也有如此生靈塗炭的一面
那之後沒多久的一天 當我經過經過火車站的時候
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Soon after, when I was walking past a train station,
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01:46
I saw something terrible that to this day I can't erase from my memory.
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我看到一個可怕的景象
我這輩子永遠忘不掉
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A lifeless woman was lying on the ground,
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一個女人奄奄一息地倒臥在路邊
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while an emaciated child in her arms
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手裡卻仍緊抱著嬴弱的孩子
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just stared helplessly at his mother's face.
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那孩子瞪大了雙眼 無助地凝視著媽媽的臉龐
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But nobody helped them,
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但沒有一個人幫助他們 因為大家都忙著
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because they were so focused on taking care of themselves and their families.
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照顧自己和自己的家人
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A huge famine hit North Korea in the mid-1990s.
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90年代中期 北韓發生大饑荒
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Ultimately, more than a million North Koreans died during the famine,
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超過一百萬的北韓人民
因為那場飢荒而死亡 而許多倖存者
02:20
and many only survived by eating grass, bugs and tree bark.
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靠著吃草 抓蟲 嚼樹根 才活了下來
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Power outages also became more and more frequent,
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沒電的情況也越來越嚴重
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so everything around me was completely dark at night,
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所以當夜色降臨時 我的世界天昏地暗
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except for the sea of lights in China,
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我唯一能看到的是 中國的燈火照在海波上反射過來的光
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just across the river from my home.
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中國距離我家僅有一河之隔
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I always wondered why they had lights, but we didn't.
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我總是在想 為什麼他們有光 而我們卻沒有
這張是北韓夜晚的衛星空照圖
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This is a satellite picture showing North Korea at night,
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compared to neighbors.
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可以和鄰國們相比
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This is the Amnok River,
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這是鴨綠江 (Amrok River)
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which serves as a part of the border between North Korea and China.
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她就恰巧壓在
北韓和中國的邊境線上
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As you can see, the river can be very narrow at certain points,
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如你所見 這條河川的河道十分狹窄
北韓人民可以從某些地方偷偷跨境
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allowing North Koreans to secretly cross.
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But many die.
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然而 有很多人因此死了
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Sometimes, I saw dead bodies floating down the river.
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有時候 我會看到河面上漂著浮屍
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I can't reveal many details about how I left North Korea,
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我不能透漏太多 我是怎麼怎麼離開北韓的
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but I only can say that during the ugly years of the famine,
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我能說的就是 在那可恨的飢荒歲月中
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I was sent to China to live with distant relatives.
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我被送到中國的遠房親戚那去了
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But I only thought that I would be separated from my family
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但那時我認為
我和我的家人過不久一定能再見面
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for a short time.
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03:37
I could have never imagined
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我從來沒想過
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that it would take 14 years to live together.
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這一別 就是14 個年頭
在中國 沒有家人的陪伴下 很難不馬上長大
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In China, it was hard living as a young girl without my family.
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03:48
I had no idea what life was going to be like
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我根本不知道 身為北韓難民
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as a North Korean refugee.
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人生會變成什麼樣子
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But I soon learned it's not only extremely difficult,
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但很快地我就明白 這樣的生活不僅艱難困苦
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it's also very dangerous,
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更是危機四伏
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since North Korean refugees are considered in China as illegal migrants.
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因為中國將北韓難民
視為非法移民
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So I was living in constant fear that my identity could be revealed,
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所以我無時無刻都活在恐懼之中
我擔心我的身分會被發現
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and I would be repatriated to a horrible fate,
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也擔心我會被遣返回北韓
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back in North Korea.
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接受可怕的命運
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One day, my worst nightmare came true,
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有一天 我的噩夢成真了
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when I was caught by the Chinese police,
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中國的警察抓了我
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and brought to the police station for interrogation.
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把我帶回警察局去偵訊
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Someone had accused me of being North Korean,
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原來 有人向他們告發我是北韓人
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so they tested my Chinese language abilities,
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於是 他們考我中文
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and asked me tons of questions.
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問我一大堆問題
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I was so scared.
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我好害怕
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I thought my heart was going to explode.
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我的心臟簡直要跳出來了
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If anything seemed unnatural, I could be imprisoned and repatriated.
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如果哪裡表現的不自然 我很可能會面臨牢獄之災
甚至 被遣返
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I thought my life was over.
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當時 我覺得我人生簡直要畫上句點了
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But I managed to control all the emotions inside me,
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但我努力控制自己的情緒
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and answer the questions.
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回答那些問題
他們問完我之後
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After they finished questioning me,
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one official said to another,
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其中一個警察向另一個警察說
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"This was a false report. She's not North Korean."
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這是誤報
她又不是北韓人
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And they let me go. It was a miracle.
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然後他們就這樣放我走了 這簡直是奇蹟
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Some North Koreans in China seek asylum in foreign embassies.
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一些在中國的北韓人民 會向外國駐華使館
尋求庇護
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But many can be caught by the Chinese police,
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但還是有很多北韓人被中國警察抓走
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and repatriated.
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然後被遣返
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These girls were so lucky.
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這幾個女孩很幸運
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Even though they were caught,
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那時候 雖然他們被逮捕了
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they were eventually released, after heavy international pressure.
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中國後來還是因為面臨
國際施加的壓力釋放了他們
這幾個北韓人民就沒有那麼幸運了
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These North Koreans were not so lucky.
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05:31
Every year, countless North Koreans are caught in China
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每年 中國政府在中國境內逮捕了無數的北韓人民
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and repatriated to North Korea,
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並將他們遣返回北韓
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where they can be tortured, imprisoned, or publicly executed.
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一個可能虐待他們 監禁他們
甚至將他們公開處刑的地方
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Even though I was really fortunate to get out,
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即便我非常幸運地逃離了那裏
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many other North Koreans have not been so lucky.
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還是有許多北韓人民不是那麼的走運
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It's tragic that North Koreans have to hide their identities
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北韓的人民需要隱姓埋名的生活 這件事真的很可悲
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and struggle so hard just to survive.
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他們光是活下去就要花好大的力氣
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Even after learning a new language and getting a job,
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儘管如此 只要有機會學習新的語言 然後找到工作
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their whole world can be turned upside down in an instant.
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這世界馬上就會截然不同
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That's why, after 10 years of hiding my identity,
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這也就是為什麼 在我過了 10 年隱姓埋名的生活後
我決定冒險前往南韓
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I decided to risk going to South Korea.
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06:13
And I started a new life yet again.
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再一次展開我的新生活
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Settling down in South Korea
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在南韓安頓下來 比我想像中
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was a lot more challenging than I had expected.
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要難的多
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English was so important in South Korea,
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在南韓 英文非常重要
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so I had to start learning my third language.
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所以我得開始學習第三種語言
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Also, I realized there was a wide gap between North and South.
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此外我了解到南韓和北韓間
有著深不見底的鴻溝
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We are all Korean, but inside,
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雖然我們都叫做韓國人
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we have become very different, due to 67 years of division.
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但是骨子裡的差異真的很大
畢竟我們分裂了 67 年啊
我甚至有過認同危機
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I even went through an identity crisis.
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06:44
Am I South Korean or North Korean?
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我究竟是南韓人 還是北韓人呢
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Where am I from? Who am I?
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我是從哪裡來的 我究竟是誰
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Suddenly, there was no country I could proudly call my own.
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一瞬間 讓我驕傲的國家
煙消雲散了
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Even though adjusting to life in South Korea was not easy,
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雖然不是那麼容易適應在南韓的生活
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I made a plan -- I started studying for the university entrance exam.
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但我有了計畫
我開始準備起大學的入學考試
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Just as I was starting to get used to my new life,
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但正當我逐漸適應新的生活的時候
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I received a shocking phone call.
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我接到了一通令人錯愕的電話
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The North Korean authorities intercepted some money
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北韓政府
截獲到一些我寄回家的錢
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that I sent to my family,
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他們懲罰我的家人
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and, as a punishment, my family was going to be forcibly removed
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即將把我的家人發配到
窮鄉僻壤去
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to a desolate location in the countryside.
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They had to get out quickly.
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他們一定得快點離開
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So I started planning how to help them escape.
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於是我開始幫他們計畫要如何出境
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North Koreans have to travel incredible distances
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北韓距離自由
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on the path to freedom.
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不可思議地遙遠
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It's almost impossible to cross the border
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南北韓間的國界
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between North Korea and South Korea.
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基本上是不可能穿越的
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So, ironically, I took a flight back to China
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所以我又搭飛機回到中國
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and headed toward the North Korean border.
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往中朝邊界前進
因為我家人們不會說中文
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Since my family couldn't speak Chinese,
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07:54
I had to guide them somehow through more than 2,000 miles
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我得帶著他們
我們就這樣一路逃了 2000 哩 經過了中國
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in China, and then into Southeast Asia.
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來到東南亞
我們搭了一星期的巴士
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The journey by bus took one week,
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and we were almost caught several times.
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有好幾次都差一點就被抓到了
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One time, our bus was stopped and boarded by a Chinese police officer.
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有一天 我們的巴士突然熄火
一名中國警察走了來
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He took everyone's I.D. cards,
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他檢查每個人的身分證
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and he started asking them questions.
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然後問大家問題
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Since my family couldn't understand Chinese,
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因為我的家人不會說中文
我以為他們就要被逮捕了
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I thought my family was going to be arrested.
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於是 當中國警察走近我家人的時候
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As the Chinese officer approached my family,
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I impulsively stood up, and I told him
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我立刻站了以來 告訴他
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that these are deaf and dumb people that I was chaperoning.
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那些人又聾 又啞
我是來陪他們來搭巴士的
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He looked at me suspiciously,
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他用懷疑的眼神看了我一會兒
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but luckily, he believed me.
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他相信我了 真的好險
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We made it all the way to the border of Laos.
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然後我們就這樣一路到了寮國的邊境
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But I had to spend almost all my money
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但為了賄賂寮國邊境的警察
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to bribe the border guards in Laos.
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我幾乎花光了我所有的錢
然而進入寮國之後
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But even after we got past the border,
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08:58
my family was arrested and jailed for illegal border crossing.
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我的家人還是被抓進去關了
理由是非法入境
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After I paid the fine and bribe,
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在我繳了罰款 然後再次賄賂後的一個月
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my family was released in one month.
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他們終於被放出來了
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But soon after, my family was arrested and jailed again,
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不過沒多久 他們又被逮捕
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in the capital of Laos.
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然後被關在寮國的首都
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This was one of the lowest points in my life.
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那絕對是我人生的最低潮的幾個日子之一
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I did everything to get my family to freedom,
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我費盡了所有心思要讓我的家人自由
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and we came so close,
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當我們離自由如此接近的時候
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but my family was thrown in jail,
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他們又被抓進去牢裡了
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just a short distance from the South Korean embassy.
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那裡距離南韓的使館只有幾步之遙
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I went back and forth between the immigration office
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於是我開始不斷地在入境局
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and the police station,
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和警察局間奔走
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desperately trying to get my family out.
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拚了命地要把我的家人弄出來
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but I didn't have enough money to pay a bribe or fine anymore.
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但我沒有足夠的錢
再去付罰款或是或賄賂了
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I lost all hope.
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我的希望徹底地粉碎
就在那刻 我聽到一個男人的聲音 他問我
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At that moment, I heard one man's voice ask me,
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09:51
"What's wrong?"
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「妳怎麼了」
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I was so surprised that a total stranger cared enough to ask.
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我好驚訝
一個完全陌生的人 是關心地詢問我
09:58
In my broken English, and with a dictionary,
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我用我的破英文 翻著字典
10:01
I explained the situation, and without hesitating,
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向他解釋這一切
10:05
the man went to the ATM,
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那個男人二話不說地 走到提款機前領了錢
10:07
and he paid the rest of the money for my family,
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幫我把積欠的罰金和賄賂用的錢全部還付清
10:10
and two other North Koreans to get out of jail.
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讓我的家人和另外兩個北韓人能夠出獄
10:14
I thanked him with all my heart, and I asked him,
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我由衷地向他道謝 然後問他
10:17
"Why are you helping me?"
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「你為什麼要幫助我」
10:20
"I'm not helping you," he said.
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他說 「我不是要幫你
10:22
"I'm helping the North Korean people."
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我幫的是北韓的人民」
10:25
I realized that this was a symbolic moment in my life.
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我知道這是我的人生中十分具象徵性意義的一刻
10:30
The kind stranger symbolized new hope for me and the North Korean people,
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這個好心的陌生人對我而言 象徵了新的希望
在北韓人民最需要希望的這一刻
10:35
when we needed it most.
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10:37
And he showed me that the kindness of strangers
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他讓我體會到來自陌生人的善良
10:40
and the support of the international community
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還有國際社會的支持
這些生命之光 都是我們北韓人民需要的
10:43
are truly the rays of hope we North Korean people need.
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10:48
Eventually, after our long journey,
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經過了這些長途跋涉
10:50
my family and I were reunited in South Korea.
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我和我的家人終於在南韓團聚
10:54
But getting to freedom is only half the battle.
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在獲得自由後 我們還有一段路要走
10:57
Many North Koreans are separated from their families,
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許多北韓人民的家庭還是被拆散的
11:01
and when they arrive in a new country,
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當他們到新的國家
11:03
they start with little or no money.
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他們一盆如洗甚至身無分文
11:07
So we can benefit from the international community
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我們可以得到國際社會的援助
11:10
for education, English language training, job training, and more.
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無論是教育 英語訓練
職業訓練 還是其他的
我們也能扮演起
11:16
We can also act as a bridge
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11:18
between the people inside North Korea and the outside world.
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北韓境內人民和外頭世界
的橋樑
11:22
Because many of us stay in contact with family members still inside,
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因為我們中的許多人
和還留在北韓的家人都還保持著連絡
11:27
and we send information and money
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我們把資訊和金錢送進去
11:29
that is helping to change North Korea from inside.
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從內部著手幫忙改變北韓
11:34
I've been so lucky, received so much help and inspiration in my life,
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我真的很幸運 得到了很多幫助
這一路走來 也接受了許多人的鼓勵
11:39
so I want to help give aspiring North Koreans
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所以我想要燃起北韓人的熱情
11:43
a chance to prosper with international support.
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讓他的在國際的幫助下
有機會能成功
11:48
I'm confident that you will see more and more North Koreans
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我有信心你們將會看到越來越多的
北韓人能夠在世界各地有很好的表現
11:52
succeeding all over the world,
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11:54
including the TED stage.
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包括在 TED 這個舞台上
11:56
Thank you.
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謝謝大家
11:57
(Applause)
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