My escape from North Korea | Hyeonseo Lee | TED

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Prevoditelj: Martina Dolenčić Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
Kada sam bila mala,
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When I was little, I thought my country was the best on the planet.
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mislila sam da je moja zemlja najbolja na planeti,
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And I grew up singing a song called "Nothing To Envy."
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i odrasla sam pjevajući pjesmu koja se zove "Ništa za zavidjeti".
I bila sam vrlo ponosna.
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And I was very proud.
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In school, we spent a lot of time studying the history of Kim Il-Sung,
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U školi smo proveli mnogo vremena
učeći povijest o Kim II-Sung-u,
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but we never learned much about the outside world,
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ali nikada nismo naučili puno o vanjskome svijetu,
osim da su Amerika, Južna Koreja i Japan neprijatelji.
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except that America, South Korea, Japan are the enemies.
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Iako sam se često zapitala o vanjskome svijetu,
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Although I often wondered about the outside world,
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mislila sam da ću cijeli život provesti u Sjevernoj Korei,
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I thought I would spend my entire life in North Korea,
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until everything suddenly changed.
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dok se odjednom nije sve promijenilo.
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When I was seven years old, I saw my first public execution.
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Kada sam imala sedam godina, vidjela sam svoje prvo javno smaknuće,
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But I thought my life in North Korea was normal.
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ali mislila sam da je moj život u Sjevernoj Koreji bio normalan.
Moja obitelj nije bila siromašna,
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My family was not poor,
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and myself, I had never experienced hunger.
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a ja, ja nikada nisam iskusila što je to glad.
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But one day, in 1995, my mom brought home a letter
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Ali jednoga dana, 1995. godine, majka mi je donijela doma pismo
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from a coworker's sister.
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od suradnikove sestre.
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It read, "When you read this,
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Pisalo je, "Dok čitaš ovo, svih pet članova obitelji
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our five family members will not exist in this world,
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neće postojati na ovome svijetu,
jer nismo jeli ništa zadnja dva tjedna.
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because we haven't eaten for the past three weeks.
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We are lying on the floor together,
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Ležimo zajedno na podu,
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and our bodies are so weak, we are waiting to die."
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i naša tijela su toliko slaba da smo spremni umrijeti."
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I was so shocked.
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Bila sam šokirana.
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This was the first time I heard that people in my country were suffering.
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Ovo je bio prvi put da čujem
da ljudi u mojoj zemlji pate.
Ubrzo nakon toga, kada sam hodala pored željezničke stanice,
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Soon after, when I was walking past a train station,
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I saw something terrible that to this day I can't erase from my memory.
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vidjela sam nešto strašno
što ne mogu izbrisati iz svoje glave.
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A lifeless woman was lying on the ground,
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Beživotno tijelo žene je ležalo na podu,
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while an emaciated child in her arms
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dok je mršavo dijete u njezinim rukama
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just stared helplessly at his mother's face.
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samo gledalo bespomoćno u lice svoje majke.
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But nobody helped them,
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Ali niko im nije pomogao, jer su svi bili toliko fokusirani
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because they were so focused on taking care of themselves and their families.
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na brigu o sebi i svojim obiteljima.
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A huge famine hit North Korea in the mid-1990s.
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Ogromna glad je pogodila Sjevernu Koreju sredinom 1990.-ih.
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Ultimately, more than a million North Koreans died during the famine,
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Na poslijetku, više od milijun Sjeverno Korejaca
umrlo je tijekom gladi, a mnogi su prežvjeli jedino
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and many only survived by eating grass, bugs and tree bark.
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hraneći se travom, kukcima i korom stabala.
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Power outages also became more and more frequent,
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Nestanci struje postali su sve češći i češći,
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so everything around me was completely dark at night,
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tako da je sve oko mene bilo potpuni mrak
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except for the sea of lights in China,
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osim mora svjetla u Kini
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just across the river from my home.
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preko puta rijeke od moje kuće.
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I always wondered why they had lights, but we didn't.
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Uvijek sam se pitala zašto su oni imali svjetla a mi ne.
Ovo je satelitska slika koja prikazuje Sjevernu Koreju noću
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This is a satellite picture showing North Korea at night,
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compared to neighbors.
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uspoređena sa susjedima.
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This is the Amnok River,
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Ovo je Amrok rijeka,
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which serves as a part of the border between North Korea and China.
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koja služi kao dio granice
između Sjeverne Koreje i Kine.
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As you can see, the river can be very narrow at certain points,
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Kao što možete vidjeti, rijeka može biti vrlo uska
na određenim mjestima, dopuštajući Sjeverno Koreancima da tajno prijeđu.
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allowing North Koreans to secretly cross.
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But many die.
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Ali mnogi su poginuli.
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Sometimes, I saw dead bodies floating down the river.
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Ponekad vidim mrtva tijela kako plutaju niz rijeku.
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I can't reveal many details about how I left North Korea,
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Ne mogu otkriti puno detalja kako sam napustila Sjevernu Koreju,
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but I only can say that during the ugly years of the famine,
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ali jedino što mogu reći je da sam tijekom ružnih godina gladi
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I was sent to China to live with distant relatives.
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poslana u Kinu živjeti kod dalekih rođaka.
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But I only thought that I would be separated from my family
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Ali mislila sam
da ću biti odvojena od svoje obitelji samo na kratko vrijeme.
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for a short time.
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I could have never imagined
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Nisam mogla zamisliti
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that it would take 14 years to live together.
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da će se to odužiti na 14 godina.
U Kini mi je bilo teško živjeti kao djevojčici bez obitelji.
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In China, it was hard living as a young girl without my family.
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I had no idea what life was going to be like
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Nisam znala kako će izgledati život
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as a North Korean refugee.
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kao Sjeverno Kreanskoj izbjeglici
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But I soon learned it's not only extremely difficult,
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ali ubrzo sam naučila da to nije samo jako teško,
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it's also very dangerous,
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već je i vrlo opasno,
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since North Korean refugees are considered in China as illegal migrants.
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otkad su Sjeverno Koreanske izbjeglice otkrivene u Kini
kao ilegalni migranti.
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So I was living in constant fear that my identity could be revealed,
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I tako sam živjela u stalnom strahu
da će moj identitet biti otkriven,
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and I would be repatriated to a horrible fate,
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i da ću biti vraćena groznoj sudbini
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back in North Korea.
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natrag u Sjevernu Koreju.
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One day, my worst nightmare came true,
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Jednoga dana moja se najgora noćna mora ostvarila,
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when I was caught by the Chinese police,
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kada sam bila uhvaćena od strane Kineske policije
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and brought to the police station for interrogation.
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i dovedena u policijsku postaju na ispitivanje.
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Someone had accused me of being North Korean,
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Netko me optužio da sam Sjeverno Koreanka,
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so they tested my Chinese language abilities,
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pa su testirali moje Kineske jezične sposobnosti
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and asked me tons of questions.
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i ispitali me puno pitanja.
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I was so scared.
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Bila sam toliko uplašena,
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I thought my heart was going to explode.
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mislila sam da će mi srce eksplodirati.
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If anything seemed unnatural, I could be imprisoned and repatriated.
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Ako se bilo što učini neprirodnim, mogla bih biti zatvorena
i vraćena.
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I thought my life was over.
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Mislila sam da je moj život gotov,
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But I managed to control all the emotions inside me,
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ali uspjela sam kontrolirati svoje emocije unutar sebe
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and answer the questions.
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i odgovarati na pitanja.
Nakon završetka ispitivanja,
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After they finished questioning me,
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one official said to another,
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jedan službenik je rekao drugome
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"This was a false report. She's not North Korean."
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"Ovo je bila lažna prijava.
Ona nije Sjeverno Koreanka."
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And they let me go. It was a miracle.
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I pustili su me. To je bilo čudo.
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Some North Koreans in China seek asylum in foreign embassies.
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Neki Sjeverno Koreanci u Kini traže azil
u stranim ambasadama
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But many can be caught by the Chinese police,
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ali mnogi mogu biti uhvaćeni od strane Kineske policije
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and repatriated.
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i vraćeni.
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These girls were so lucky.
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Ove djevojke su bile jako sretne.
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Even though they were caught,
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Iako su uhvaćene,
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they were eventually released, after heavy international pressure.
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na kraju su bili puštene
nakon teškog međunarodnog pritiska.
Ovi Sjeverno Koreanci nisu nemaju toliko sreće.
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These North Koreans were not so lucky.
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Every year, countless North Koreans are caught in China
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Svake godine, bezbroj Sjeverno Koreanaca je uhvaćeno u Kini
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and repatriated to North Korea,
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i vraćeno u Sjevernu Koreju,
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where they can be tortured, imprisoned, or publicly executed.
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gdje mogu biti izloženi mučenjima, zatvoreni
ili javno pogubljeni.
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Even though I was really fortunate to get out,
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Iako sam bila jako sretna što sam se izvukla,
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many other North Koreans have not been so lucky.
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mnogo drugih Sjeverno Koreanaca nije imalo toliko sreće.
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It's tragic that North Koreans have to hide their identities
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Tragično je što Sjeverno Koreanci moraju skrivati svoj identitet
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and struggle so hard just to survive.
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i toliko se boriti samo kako bi preživjeli.
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Even after learning a new language and getting a job,
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Iako nakon učenja novog jezika i dobitka novog posla,
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their whole world can be turned upside down in an instant.
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njihov se cijeli život može preokrenuti u trenu.
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That's why, after 10 years of hiding my identity,
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Zbog toga, nakon 10 godina skrivanja svog identiteta,
odlučila sam riskirati odlaskom u Južnu Koreju,
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I decided to risk going to South Korea.
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And I started a new life yet again.
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i započela sam ponovo nov život.
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Settling down in South Korea
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Smještanje u Južnu Koreju bilo je veći izazov
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was a lot more challenging than I had expected.
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nego što sam očekivala.
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English was so important in South Korea,
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Engleski je vrlo bitan u Južnojj Koreji,
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so I had to start learning my third language.
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pa sam počela učiti treći jezik.
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Also, I realized there was a wide gap between North and South.
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Također sam shvatila da postoji veliki jaz
između Sjevera i Juga.
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We are all Korean, but inside,
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Svi smo mi Koreanci, ali iznutra,
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we have become very different, due to 67 years of division.
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postali smo vrlo različiti
zbog 67 godina podijele.
Čak sam prošla kroz krizu identiteta.
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I even went through an identity crisis.
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06:44
Am I South Korean or North Korean?
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Jesam li ja Sjeverno ili Južno Koreanka?
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Where am I from? Who am I?
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Odakle sam ja? Tko sam ja?
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Suddenly, there was no country I could proudly call my own.
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Odjednom, više nije bilo zemlje
koju bih ponosno mogla zvati svojom.
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Even though adjusting to life in South Korea was not easy,
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Iako prilagodba na život u Južnoj Koreji nije bila lagana,
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I made a plan -- I started studying for the university entrance exam.
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napravila sam plan.
Počela sam studirati za prijemni ispit.
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Just as I was starting to get used to my new life,
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Samo kako sam počela s novim živom,
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I received a shocking phone call.
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primila sam šokirajući telefonski poziv.
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The North Korean authorities intercepted some money
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Sjeverno Koreanske vlasti
prepriječile su nešto novaca koje sam poslala svojoj obitelji,
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that I sent to my family,
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i, kao kazna, moja obitelj je bila
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and, as a punishment, my family was going to be forcibly removed
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prisiljena preseliti se
na opustošeno mjesto na selu.
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to a desolate location in the countryside.
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They had to get out quickly.
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Morali su otići brzo,
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So I started planning how to help them escape.
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pa sam planirala novi plan kako im pomoći da pobjegnu.
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North Koreans have to travel incredible distances
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Sjeverno Koreanci moraju proputovati nevjerojatne udaljenosti
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on the path to freedom.
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na putu do slobode.
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It's almost impossible to cross the border
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Gotovo je nemoguće prijeći granicu
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between North Korea and South Korea.
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između Sjeverne i Južne Koreje,
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So, ironically, I took a flight back to China
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pa, ironično, uzela sam let natrag za Kinu
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and headed toward the North Korean border.
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i krenula sam prema Sjeverno Koreanskoj granici.
Kako moja obitelj ne govori Kineski,
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Since my family couldn't speak Chinese,
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I had to guide them somehow through more than 2,000 miles
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morala sam ih učiti,
nekako, kroz više od 2 000 milja u Kini
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in China, and then into Southeast Asia.
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i onda u Sjevernoj Aziji.
Putovanje busom trajalo je tjedan dana,
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The journey by bus took one week,
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and we were almost caught several times.
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i nekoliko puta smo gotovo bili uhvaćeni.
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One time, our bus was stopped and boarded by a Chinese police officer.
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Jednom, naš je bus bio zaustavljen
i ušao je kineski policijski službenik.
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He took everyone's I.D. cards,
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Uzeo je od svakoga osobnu kartu,
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and he started asking them questions.
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i započeo s ispitivanjem.
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Since my family couldn't understand Chinese,
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Kako moja obitelj nije mogla razumjeti Kineski,
mislila sam da će biti uhićeni.
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I thought my family was going to be arrested.
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Kako se službenik približavao mojoj obitelji,
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As the Chinese officer approached my family,
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I impulsively stood up, and I told him
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impulzivno sam ustala i rekla mu
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that these are deaf and dumb people that I was chaperoning.
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da su ovo gluhi i nijemi ljudi
koje sam ja vodila.
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He looked at me suspiciously,
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Pogledao me sumnjivo,
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but luckily, he believed me.
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ali na sreću povjerovao mi je.
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We made it all the way to the border of Laos.
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Uspjeli smo doći do granice Laos,
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But I had to spend almost all my money
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ali morala sam potroštiti gotovo sav novac
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to bribe the border guards in Laos.
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kako bih potkupila čuvare na granici u Laosu.
Iako smo uspjeli proći granicu,
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But even after we got past the border,
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my family was arrested and jailed for illegal border crossing.
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moja je obitelj bila uhićena i zatvorena
zbog ilegalnog prijelaska granice.
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After I paid the fine and bribe,
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Nakon što sam platitla globu i mito,
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my family was released in one month.
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moja je obitelj bila oslobođena nakon mjesec dana,
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But soon after, my family was arrested and jailed again,
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ali ubrzo nakon toga ponovo su bili uhićeni i zatvoreni
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in the capital of Laos.
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u glavnom gradu Laosa.
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This was one of the lowest points in my life.
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To je bila jedna od mojih najtežih točaka u životu.
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I did everything to get my family to freedom,
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Učinila sam sve kako bih oslobodila obitelj,
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and we came so close,
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i došli smo tako blizu,
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but my family was thrown in jail,
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ali moja je obitelj bila bačena u zatvor
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just a short distance from the South Korean embassy.
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samo malo udaljen od Južno Korejske ambasade.
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I went back and forth between the immigration office
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Išla sam naprijed nazad između ureda za imigracije
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and the police station,
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i policijske postaje,
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desperately trying to get my family out.
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očajnički pokušavajući izvući svoju obitelj,
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but I didn't have enough money to pay a bribe or fine anymore.
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ali nisam više imala dovoljno novaca
kako bih platila globu ili mito.
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I lost all hope.
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Izgubila sam svu nadu.
Na trenutak, čula sam kako me muški glas pita
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At that moment, I heard one man's voice ask me,
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09:51
"What's wrong?"
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"U čemu je problem?"
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I was so surprised that a total stranger cared enough to ask.
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Bila sam iznenađena
kako je totalnom strancu stalo pitati.
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In my broken English, and with a dictionary,
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Sa svojim lošim engleskim i sa rječnikom,
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I explained the situation, and without hesitating,
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objasnila sam situaciju, i bez oklijevanja,
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the man went to the ATM,
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muškarac je otišao na bankomat
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and he paid the rest of the money for my family,
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i platio ostatak novaca za moju obitelj
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and two other North Koreans to get out of jail.
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i dvoje ostalih Sjeverno Koreanaca kako bi izašli iz zatvora.
10:14
I thanked him with all my heart, and I asked him,
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Zahvalila sam mu svim srcem, i onda sam ga upitala,
10:17
"Why are you helping me?"
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"Zašto mi pomažeš?"
10:20
"I'm not helping you," he said.
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"Ne pomažem ti", rekao je.
10:22
"I'm helping the North Korean people."
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"Pomažem ljudima iz Sjeverne Koreje".
10:25
I realized that this was a symbolic moment in my life.
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Shvatila sam da je to bio značajan trenutak u mom životu.
10:30
The kind stranger symbolized new hope for me and the North Korean people,
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Ljubazan stranac je simbolizirao nadu za mene
i ljude iz Sjeverne Koreje kada smo je trebali najviše,
10:35
when we needed it most.
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10:37
And he showed me that the kindness of strangers
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i pokazao mi je da dobrota stranca
10:40
and the support of the international community
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i potpora međunarodne zajednice
su uistinu zrake nade koje mi, ljudi iz Sjeverne Koreje trebamo.
10:43
are truly the rays of hope we North Korean people need.
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10:48
Eventually, after our long journey,
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Na kraju, nakon našeg dugog putovanja,
10:50
my family and I were reunited in South Korea.
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moja obitelj i ja sastali smo se u Južnoj Koreji.,
10:54
But getting to freedom is only half the battle.
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ali doći do slobode je samo polovica bitke.
10:57
Many North Koreans are separated from their families,
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Mnogo Sjeverno Koranaca su odvojeni od svojih obitelji,
11:01
and when they arrive in a new country,
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i kada stignu u novu zemlju,
11:03
they start with little or no money.
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započinju s malo ili bez novaca.
11:07
So we can benefit from the international community
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Tako možemo imati koristi od međunarodne zajednice
11:10
for education, English language training, job training, and more.
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za obrazovanje, učenje engleskog jezika,
osposobljavanja za posao i ostalo.
Možemo također djelovati kao most
11:16
We can also act as a bridge
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11:18
between the people inside North Korea and the outside world.
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između ljudi unutar Sjeverne Koreje
i vanjskog svijeta,
11:22
Because many of us stay in contact with family members still inside,
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jer mnogi od nas ostaju u kontaktu
sa članovima obitelji koji su još tamo,,
11:27
and we send information and money
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i šaljemo informacije i novac
11:29
that is helping to change North Korea from inside.
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koji pomažu promijeniti Sjevernu Koreu iznutra.
11:34
I've been so lucky, received so much help and inspiration in my life,
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Ja sam imala toliko sreće, primila sam toliko puno pomoći
i inspiracije u svom životu,
11:39
so I want to help give aspiring North Koreans
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pa želim pomoći Sjeverno Koreancima koji to žele
11:43
a chance to prosper with international support.
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šansu za napredovanje
sa međunarodnom potporom.
11:48
I'm confident that you will see more and more North Koreans
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Uvjerena sam da ćete vidjeti više i više
Sjeverno Koreanaca kako uspjevaju u cijelom svijetu,
11:52
succeeding all over the world,
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11:54
including the TED stage.
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uključujući TED pozornicu.
11:56
Thank you.
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Hvala Vam.
11:57
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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