Mark Pagel: How language transformed humanity

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Translator: Klavdija Cernilogar Reviewer: Tilen Pigac - EFZG
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Each of you possesses
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Vsak od vas ima
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the most powerful, dangerous and subversive trait
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najmočnejšo, najnevarnejšo in najbolj subverzivno lastnost,
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that natural selection has ever devised.
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ki jo je naravna selekcija kdajkoli razvila.
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It's a piece of neural audio technology
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Gre za del nevralne avdio tehnologije
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for rewiring other people's minds.
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za vplivanje na misli drugih ljudi.
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I'm talking about your language, of course,
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Govorim seveda o jeziku,
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because it allows you to implant a thought from your mind
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kajti ta omogoča, da misel iz svojih možganov posadite
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directly into someone else's mind,
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neposredno v možgane nekoga drugega;
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and they can attempt to do the same to you,
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ta nekdo drug lahko enako naredi vam,
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without either of you having to perform surgery.
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ne da bi kdorkoli od vaju za to potreboval operacijo.
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Instead, when you speak,
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Namesto tega, ko govorite,
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you're actually using a form of telemetry
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pravzaprav uporabljate obliko telemetrije,
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not so different
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ki ni zelo drugačna
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from the remote control device for your television.
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od daljinskega upravljalca vaše televizije.
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It's just that, whereas that device
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Razlika je le v tem, da medtem ko se daljinec
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relies on pulses of infrared light,
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zanaša na impulze infrardeče luči,
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your language relies on pulses,
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se jezik zanaša na impulze,
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discrete pulses, of sound.
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diskretne impulze zvoka.
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And just as you use the remote control device
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In prav tako kot lahko z daljincem
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to alter the internal settings of your television
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spremenite notranje nastavitve svoje televizije,
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to suit your mood,
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da odgovarjajo vašemu počutju,
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you use your language
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uporabljate jezik,
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to alter the settings inside someone else's brain
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da z njim spreminjate nastavitve v možganih nekoga drugega,
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to suit your interests.
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da so v skladu z vašimi interesi.
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Languages are genes talking,
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Jeziki so govoreči geni,
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getting things that they want.
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ki dosežejo tisto, kar hočejo.
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And just imagine the sense of wonder in a baby
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Zamislite si, kako se dojenček čudi,
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when it first discovers that, merely by uttering a sound,
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ko odkrije, da lahko z uporabo določenega zvoka
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it can get objects to move across a room
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doseže, da se predmeti v sobi
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as if by magic,
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kot po čarovniji premaknejo,
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and maybe even into its mouth.
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morda celo pristanejo v njegovih ustih.
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Now language's subversive power
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Subverzivno moč jezika
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has been recognized throughout the ages
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so skozi stoletja priznavali
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in censorship, in books you can't read,
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s cenzuro: knjigami, ki jih ne smete brati,
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phrases you can't use
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frazami, ki jih ne smete uporabljati,
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and words you can't say.
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in besedami, ki jih ne smete izreči.
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In fact, the Tower of Babel story in the Bible
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Pravzaprav je biblijska zgodba o babilonskem stolpu
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is a fable and warning
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basen in opozorilo
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about the power of language.
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o moči jezika.
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According to that story, early humans developed the conceit
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Zgodba pravi, da so si prvi ljudje zamislili,
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that, by using their language to work together,
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da bi ob uporabi jezika za sodelovanje
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they could build a tower
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lahko zgradili stolp,
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that would take them all the way to heaven.
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ki bi vodil vse do nebes.
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Now God, angered at this attempt to usurp his power,
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Boga je ta poskus prevzema njegove moči razjezil
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destroyed the tower,
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in je unčil stolp.
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and then to ensure
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Da bi preprečil,
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that it would never be rebuilt,
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da bi ga še kdaj zgradili,
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he scattered the people by giving them different languages --
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je ljudi razpršil tako, da jim je dal različne jezike --
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confused them by giving them different languages.
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zmedel jih je z različnimi jeziki.
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And this leads to the wonderful irony
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V tem je čudovita ironija,
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that our languages exist to prevent us from communicating.
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da jeziki obstajajo zato, da preprečujejo komunikacijo med nami.
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Even today,
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Celo dandanes
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we know that there are words we cannot use,
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vemo, da nekaterih besed ne smemo izreči,
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phrases we cannot say,
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ne uporabljati določenih fraz,
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because if we do so,
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kajti če bi jih,
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we might be accosted, jailed,
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bi nas lahko napadli, vrgli v ječo
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or even killed.
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ali celo umorili.
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And all of this from a puff of air
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In vse to zaradi sapice,
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emanating from our mouths.
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ki izhaja iz naših ust.
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Now all this fuss about a single one of our traits
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Vse to razburjenje zaradi ene same človeške lastnosti
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tells us there's something worth explaining.
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nam pove, da si tu nekaj zasluži razlago.
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And that is how and why
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In to je, kako in zakaj
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did this remarkable trait evolve,
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se je ta izjemna lastnost razvila
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and why did it evolve
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ter zakaj se je razvila
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only in our species?
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samo pri naši vrsti?
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Now it's a little bit of a surprise
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Mogoče je malo presenetljivo,
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that to get an answer to that question,
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da bomo odgovor na to vprašanje dobili s pogledom na
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we have to go to tool use
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uporabo orodij
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in the chimpanzees.
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pri šimpanzih.
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Now these chimpanzees are using tools,
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Tile šimpanzi uporabljajo orodja
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and we take that as a sign of their intelligence.
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in to jemljemo kot znak njihove inteligence.
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But if they really were intelligent,
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Ampak če bi bili zares inteligentni,
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why would they use a stick to extract termites from the ground
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zakaj bi termite bezali iz zemlje s palico,
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rather than a shovel?
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namesto z lopato?
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And if they really were intelligent,
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In če bi bili res inteligentni,
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why would they crack open nuts with a rock?
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zakaj bi trli orehe s kamnom?
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Why wouldn't they just go to a shop and buy a bag of nuts
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Zakaj ne bi enostavno šli v trgovino in kupili vrečko orehov,
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that somebody else had already cracked open for them?
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ki jih je že strl nekdo drug?
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Why not? I mean, that's what we do.
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Zakaj ne? Saj mi to počnemo.
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Now the reason the chimpanzees don't do that
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Razlog, da šimpanzi ne delujejo tako,
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is that they lack what psychologists and anthropologists call
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je v tem, da nimajo tistega, čemur psihologi in antropologi pravijo
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social learning.
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socialno učenje.
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They seem to lack the ability
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Kaže, da nimajo sposobnosti
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to learn from others
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učiti se od drugih
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by copying or imitating
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s kopiranjem ali imitiranjem
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or simply watching.
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ali enostavno z opazovanjem.
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As a result,
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Posledica tega je,
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they can't improve on others' ideas
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da ne morejo izboljšati idej drugih
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or learn from others' mistakes --
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ali se učiti na napakah drugih --
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benefit from others' wisdom.
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imeti koristi od modrosti drugih.
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And so they just do the same thing
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Tako vedno znova in znova
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over and over and over again.
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ponavljajo iste stvari.
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In fact, we could go away for a million years and come back
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Pravzaprav bi lahko šli milijon let nazaj in se spet vrnili
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and these chimpanzees would be doing the same thing
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pa bi ti šimpanzi še vedno počeli isto stvar
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with the same sticks for the termites
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z isto palico za termite
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and the same rocks to crack open the nuts.
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in istimi kamni za trenje orehov.
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Now this may sound arrogant, or even full of hubris.
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Morda to zveni arogantno ali celo objestno.
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How do we know this?
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Kako to vemo?
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Because this is exactly what our ancestors, the Homo erectus, did.
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Ker je to točno tisto, kar je počel naš prednik homo erectus.
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These upright apes
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Te pokončne opice
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evolved on the African savanna
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so se razvile v afriški savani
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about two million years ago,
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pred približno dvema milijonoma let
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and they made these splendid hand axes
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in so izdelovale tele odlične ročne sekire,
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that fit wonderfully into your hands.
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ki se lepo prilegajo v roko.
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But if we look at the fossil record,
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A če si ogledamo fosilni zapis,
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we see that they made the same hand axe
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vidimo, da so enake sekire delali
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over and over and over again
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vedno znova in znova
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for one million years.
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celih milijon let.
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You can follow it through the fossil record.
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Temu lahko sledite skozi fosilni zapis.
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Now if we make some guesses about how long Homo erectus lived,
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Lahko ugibamo, kako dolgo je homo erectus živel,
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what their generation time was,
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kakšen je bil njegov generacijski čas,
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that's about 40,000 generations
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to je okoli 40.000 generacij
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of parents to offspring, and other individuals watching,
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od staršev do naraščaja in drugih posameznikov,
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in which that hand axe didn't change.
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v katerem se tista ročna sekira ni spremenila.
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It's not even clear
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Jasno ni niti,
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that our very close genetic relatives, the Neanderthals,
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ali so naši bližnji genetski sorodniki, neandertalci,
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had social learning.
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poznali socialno učenje.
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Sure enough, their tools were more complicated
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Seveda so bila njihova orodja bolj zapletena
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than those of Homo erectus,
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kot tista od homo erectusa,
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but they too showed very little change
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ampak tudi ta so se le malo spremenila, in to
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over the 300,000 years or so
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v približno 300.000 letih,
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that those species, the Neanderthals,
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kolikor je ta vrsta, neandertalec,
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lived in Eurasia.
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živela v Evraziji.
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Okay, so what this tells us
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V redu, to nam torej pove,
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is that, contrary to the old adage,
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da stari rek
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"monkey see, monkey do,"
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"Kar se Janezek nauči, to Janezek zna",
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the surprise really is
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zares velja samo za človeka
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that all of the other animals
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in da druge živali
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really cannot do that -- at least not very much.
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tega v resnici ne zmorejo -- vsaj ne v veliki meri.
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And even this picture
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Celo tale fotografija
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has the suspicious taint of being rigged about it --
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je sumljiva -- smrdi po ponaredku --
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something from a Barnum & Bailey circus.
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deluje precej cirkusantsko.
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But by comparison,
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V primerjavi z živalmi
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we can learn.
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pa se ljudje lahko učimo.
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We can learn by watching other people
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Lahko se naučimo z opazovanjem drugih
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and copying or imitating
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in kopiranjem ali imitiranjem tega,
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what they can do.
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kar počnejo.
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We can then choose, from among a range of options,
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Potem lahko med kopico možnosti
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the best one.
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izberemo najboljšo.
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We can benefit from others' ideas.
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Od idej drugih imamo lahko koristi.
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We can build on their wisdom.
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Lahko gradimo na njihovi modrosti.
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And as a result, our ideas do accumulate,
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Rezultat tega je, da se ideje kopičijo
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and our technology progresses.
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in tehnologija napreduje.
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And this cumulative cultural adaptation,
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In ta kumulativna kulturna adaptacija,
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as anthropologists call
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kakor antropologi poimenujejo
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this accumulation of ideas,
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tovrstno kopičenje idej,
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is responsible for everything around you
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je odgovorna za vse okoli vas
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in your bustling and teeming everyday lives.
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v vašem živahnem vsakdanu.
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I mean the world has changed out of all proportion
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Hočem reči, da se je svet spremenil preko vsake mere
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to what we would recognize
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v primerjavi s tem, kar so poznali
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even 1,000 or 2,000 years ago.
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tisoč ali dva tisoč let nazaj.
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And all of this because of cumulative cultural adaptation.
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Vse to je zaradi kumulativne kulturne adaptacije.
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The chairs you're sitting in, the lights in this auditorium,
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Stoli, na katerih sedite, luči v tej dvorani,
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my microphone, the iPads and iPods that you carry around with you --
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moj mikrofon, iPadi in iPodi, ki jih nosite s seboj,
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all are a result
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vse to je rezultat
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of cumulative cultural adaptation.
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kumulativne kulturne adaptacije.
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Now to many commentators,
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Za marsikaterega komentatorja
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cumulative cultural adaptation, or social learning,
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je kumulativna kulturna adaptacija, ali socialno učenje
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is job done, end of story.
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konec zgodbe.
06:30
Our species can make stuff,
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Naša vrsta lahko izdeluje stvari,
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therefore we prospered in a way that no other species has.
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zato smo napredovali na način, na kakršnega ni nobena druga vrsta.
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In fact, we can even make the "stuff of life" --
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Pravzaprav lahko naredimo celo "življenjske stvari" --
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as I just said, all the stuff around us.
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kot sem rekel, stvari okoli nas.
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But in fact, it turns out
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A pravzaprav se izkaže,
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that some time around 200,000 years ago,
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da je bil okoli 200.000 let nazaj,
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when our species first arose
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ko se je naša vrsta pojavila
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and acquired social learning,
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in spoznala socialno učenje,
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that this was really the beginning of our story,
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to pravzaprav začetek naše zgodbe,
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not the end of our story.
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ne pa njen konec.
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Because our acquisition of social learning
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Zaradi socialnega učenja
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would create a social and evolutionary dilemma,
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smo ustvarili socialno in evolucijsko dilemo,
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the resolution of which, it's fair to say,
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razrešitev katere bi, če smo pošteni,
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would determine not only the future course of our psychology,
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določila ne samo prihodnji tok naše psihologije,
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but the future course of the entire world.
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ampak tudi prihodnji tok celotnega sveta.
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And most importantly for this,
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Najpomembneje pa je,
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it'll tell us why we have language.
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da nam razloži, zakaj imamo jezik.
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And the reason that dilemma arose
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Razlog za to dilemo pa je v tem,
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is, it turns out, that social learning is visual theft.
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da se je izkazalo, da gre pri socialnem učenju za krajo videnega.
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If I can learn by watching you,
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Če se lahko učim tako, da vas gledam,
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I can steal your best ideas,
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lahko kradem vaše najboljše ideje
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and I can benefit from your efforts,
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in imam koristi od vaših naporov,
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without having to put in the time and energy that you did
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ne da bi moral vlagati čas in energijo, ki ste ju vložili vi,
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into developing them.
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da ste ideje razvili.
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If I can watch which lure you use to catch a fish,
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Če vas lahko gledam, ko lovite ribe
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or I can watch how you flake your hand axe
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ali kako naostrite svojo sekiro,
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to make it better,
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da bi bolje delovala,
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or if I follow you secretly to your mushroom patch,
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ali če vam skrivaj sledim do vaše grede gob,
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I can benefit from your knowledge and wisdom and skills,
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imam lahko korist od vašega znanja, modrosti in sposobnosti
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and maybe even catch that fish
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in mogoče bom tisto ribo ujel
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before you do.
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celo pred vami.
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Social learning really is visual theft.
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Socialno učenje je res kraja videnega.
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And in any species that acquired it,
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In pri katerikoli vrsti, ki ga pozna,
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it would behoove you
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je pametno
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to hide your best ideas,
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skriti najboljše zamisli,
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lest somebody steal them from you.
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drugače jih bo nekdo ukradel.
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And so some time around 200,000 years ago,
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Nekoč pred približno 200.000 leti
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our species confronted this crisis.
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se je naša vrsta soočila s to krizo.
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And we really had only two options
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In dejansko imamo samo dve možnosti
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for dealing with the conflicts
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za reševanje konfliktov,
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that visual theft would bring.
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ki jih prinaša kraja videnega.
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One of those options
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Ena od teh možnosti
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was that we could have retreated
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je umik
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into small family groups.
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v majhne družinske skupnosti.
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Because then the benefits of our ideas and knowledge
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Kajti v tem primeru se koristi od idej in znanja
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would flow just to our relatives.
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delijo samo s sorodniki.
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Had we chosen this option,
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Ko bi bili izbrali to možnost,
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sometime around 200,000 years ago,
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pred kakšnimi 200.000 leti,
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we would probably still be living like the Neanderthals were
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bi verjetno še vedno živeli kot neandertalci
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when we first entered Europe 40,000 years ago.
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ob prvem prihodu v Evropo pred 40.000 leti.
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And this is because in small groups
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To pa zato, ker v majhnih skupnostih
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there are fewer ideas, there are fewer innovations.
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obstaja manj idej, manj inovacij.
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And small groups are more prone to accidents and bad luck.
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Majhne skupnosti so tudi bolj nagnjene k nezgodam in nesreči.
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So if we'd chosen that path,
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Torej, če bi bili izbrali to pot,
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our evolutionary path would have led into the forest --
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bi naša evolucijska pot vodila v gozd --
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and been a short one indeed.
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in bi bila dokaj kratka.
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The other option we could choose
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Druga možnost
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was to develop the systems of communication
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je bila, da razvijemo sisteme komunikacije,
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that would allow us to share ideas
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ki bi nam omogočili
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and to cooperate amongst others.
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in sodelovanje z drugimi.
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Choosing this option would mean
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Izbrati to pot bi pomenilo,
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that a vastly greater fund of accumulated knowledge and wisdom
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da bi bil vsakemu posamezniku na voljo
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would become available to any one individual
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mnogo večji izbor nakopičenega znanja in modrosti,
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than would ever arise from within an individual family
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kot bi ju kdajkoli lahko proizvedla posamezna družina,
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or an individual person on their own.
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kaj šele vsak posameznik.
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Well, we chose the second option,
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No, izbrali smo drugo možnost
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and language is the result.
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in rezultat tega je jezik.
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Language evolved to solve the crisis
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Jezik se je razvil, da bi rešil krizo
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of visual theft.
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kraje videnega.
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Language is a piece of social technology
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Jezik je del socialne tehnologije
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for enhancing the benefits of cooperation --
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za krepitev koristi sodelovanja --
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for reaching agreements, for striking deals
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za doseganje dogovorov, za sklepanje sporazumov
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and for coordinating our activities.
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in za usklajevanje naših dejavnosti.
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And you can see that, in a developing society
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Tako lahko vidite, da bi družba v razvoju,
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that was beginning to acquire language,
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ki je začela razvijati jezik,
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not having language
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brez njega bila
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would be a like a bird without wings.
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kot ptica brez kril.
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Just as wings open up this sphere of air
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Kot krila odprejo pot v zračne sfere,
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for birds to exploit,
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da jih ptice lahko izkoriščajo,
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language opened up the sphere of cooperation
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je jezik odprl sfere sodelovanja,
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for humans to exploit.
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ki jih lahko izkoriščajo ljudje.
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And we take this utterly for granted,
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In to jemljemo kot samoumevno,
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because we're a species that is so at home with language,
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ker smo vrsta, ki ji je jezik nekaj tako domačega.
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but you have to realize
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A vedeti morate,
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that even the simplest acts of exchange that we engage in
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da so celo naša najbolj enostavna dejanja izmenjave
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are utterly dependent upon language.
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popolnoma odvisna od jezika.
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And to see why, consider two scenarios
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Da bi videli, zakaj, poglejmo dva scenarija
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from early in our evolution.
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iz zgodnjega obdobja evolucije.
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Let's imagine that you are really good
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Predstavljajte si, da ste
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at making arrowheads,
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odličen izdelovalec konic za puščice,
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but you're hopeless at making the wooden shafts
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ste pa brezupni pri izdelovanju lesenega dela puščice,
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with the flight feathers attached.
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na katerega so pritrjena krilca.
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Two other people you know are very good at making the wooden shafts,
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Dve drugi osebi, ki ju poznate, sta zelo dobri pri izdelavi lesenih delov,
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but they're hopeless at making the arrowheads.
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izdelava konic jima pa ne gre od rok.
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So what you do is --
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Torej, kaj storite...
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one of those people has not really acquired language yet.
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ena od teh oseb še ne pozna jezika.
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And let's pretend the other one is good at language skills.
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Predstavljajmo si, da ga druga pozna.
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So what you do one day is you take a pile of arrowheads,
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Nekega dne torej vzamete kup konic
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and you walk up to the one that can't speak very well,
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in greste do osebe, ki ne govori prav dobro,
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and you put the arrowheads down in front of him,
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ter postavite konice prednjo,
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hoping that he'll get the idea that you want to trade your arrowheads
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v upanju, da bo razumela, da jih hočete zamenjati
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for finished arrows.
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za dokončane puščice.
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But he looks at the pile of arrowheads, thinks they're a gift,
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Ta človek pa pogleda na kup pred njim, misli, da gre za darilo,
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picks them up, smiles and walks off.
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pobere konice, se nasmehne in odide.
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Now you pursue this guy, gesticulating.
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Stečete za njim in mahate z rokami.
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A scuffle ensues and you get stabbed
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Pride do prepira in ta človek vas zabode
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with one of your own arrowheads.
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z eno vaših lastnih konic.
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Okay, now replay this scene now, and you're approaching the one who has language.
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Prav. Zdaj pa znova odigrajmo to sceno; tokrat se približate tisti osebi, ki pozna jezik.
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You put down your arrowheads and say,
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Prednjo položite svoje konice in rečete:
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"I'd like to trade these arrowheads for finished arrows. I'll split you 50/50."
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"Tele konice bi rad zamenjal za dokončane puščice. Dam vam jih polovico".
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The other one says, "Fine. Looks good to me.
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Druga oseba odgovori: "Prav, sliši se v redu.
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We'll do that."
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Pa dajva".
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Now the job is done.
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Tokrat ste namero uresničili.
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Once we have language,
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Ko enkrat imamo jezik,
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we can put our ideas together and cooperate
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lahko združimo ideje in sodelujemo,
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to have a prosperity
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da dosežemo blaginjo,
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that we couldn't have before we acquired it.
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ki je brez jezika ne bi mogli.
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And this is why our species
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Zato je naša vrsta
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has prospered around the world
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napredovala po vsem svetu,
11:31
while the rest of the animals
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medtem ko ostale živali
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sit behind bars in zoos, languishing.
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životarijo v kletkah v živalskih vrtovih.
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That's why we build space shuttles and cathedrals
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Zato gradimo vesoljske ladje in katedrale,
11:39
while the rest of the world sticks sticks into the ground
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medtem ko ostali svet beza s palicami v tla,
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to extract termites.
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da pride do termitov.
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All right, if this view of language
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Prav, če ta pogled na jezik
11:46
and its value
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in njegovo vrednost
11:48
in solving the crisis of visual theft is true,
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pri reševanju krize kraje videnega drži,
11:51
any species that acquires it
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potem bi vsaka vrsta, ki ga uporablja,
11:53
should show an explosion of creativity and prosperity.
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morala eksplodirati od kreativnosti in razvoja.
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And this is exactly what the archeological record shows.
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In prav to kažejo arheološke najdbe.
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If you look at our ancestors,
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Če se ozremo k našima prednikoma,
12:01
the Neanderthals and the Homo erectus, our immediate ancestors,
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neandertalcu in homo erectusu, našima neposrednima prednikoma,
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they're confined to small regions of the world.
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sta bila oba omejena na majhne regije.
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But when our species arose
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Ko pa se je naša vrsta
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about 200,000 years ago,
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pred okoli 200.000 leti pojavila,
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sometime after that we quickly walked out of Africa
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je kmalu potem odkorakala iz Afrike
12:14
and spread around the entire world,
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in se razširila po vsem svetu
12:17
occupying nearly every habitat on Earth.
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ter zavzela skoraj vse habitate na Zemlji.
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Now whereas other species are confined
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Medtem ko so druge vrste omejene
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to places that their genes adapt them to,
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na kraje, na katere so prilagojeni njihovi geni,
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with social learning and language,
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smo mi lahko s pomočjo socialnega učenja in jezika
12:28
we could transform the environment
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spremenili okolje tako,
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to suit our needs.
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da ustreza našim potrebam.
12:32
And so we prospered in a way
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Tako smo napredovali na način,
12:34
that no other animal has.
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na kakršnega ni nobena druga žival.
12:36
Language really is
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Jezik je res
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the most potent trait that has ever evolved.
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najmočnejša lastnost, ki se je kdajkoli razvila.
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It is the most valuable trait we have
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Je najpomembnejša pomoč
12:45
for converting new lands and resources
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za spreminjanje novih krajev in virov
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into more people and their genes
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v več ljudi in njihovih genov,
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that natural selection has ever devised.
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kot si je naravni izbor kadarkoli zamislil.
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Language really is
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Jezik je res
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the voice of our genes.
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glas naših genov.
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Now having evolved language, though,
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Z razvojem jezika pa smo
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we did something peculiar,
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napravili nekaj nenavadnega,
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even bizarre.
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celo bizarnega.
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As we spread out around the world,
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Ko smo se razširili po svetu,
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we developed thousands of different languages.
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smo razvili na tisoče različnih jezikov.
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Currently, there are about seven or 8,000
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Trenutno na Zemlji govorimo
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different languages spoken on Earth.
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okoli sedem ali osem tisoč različnih jezikov.
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Now you might say, well, this is just natural.
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Rekli boste, ja, to je naravno.
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As we diverge, our languages are naturally going to diverge.
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Kot se razlikujemo mi, se bodo razlikovali tudi jeziki.
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But the real puzzle and irony
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Uganka in ironija pa je,
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is that the greatest density of different languages on Earth
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da je največ različnih jezikov na Zemlji
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is found where people are most tightly packed together.
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tam, kjer so ljudje naseljeni tesno skupaj.
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If we go to the island of Papua New Guinea,
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Pojdimo na otok Papua Nova Gvineja
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we can find about 800 to 1,000
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in našli bomo med 800 in 1.000
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distinct human languages,
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različnih jezikov,
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different human languages,
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različnih jezikov,
13:36
spoken on that island alone.
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in to na enem samem otoku.
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There are places on that island
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Obstajajo kraji na tem otoku,
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where you can encounter a new language
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kjer na novi jezik naletite
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every two or three miles.
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vsaki dve ali tri milje.
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Now, incredible as this sounds,
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Naj se to sliši še tako neverjetno,
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I once met a Papuan man, and I asked him if this could possibly be true.
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nekoč sem srečal Papuanca in ga vprašal, če je to res.
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And he said to me, "Oh no.
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Odgovoril je: "O, ne.
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They're far closer together than that."
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Celo veliko bližje so si".
13:54
And it's true; there are places on that island
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In res: na otoku obstajajo kraji,
13:56
where you can encounter a new language in under a mile.
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kjer nov jezik srečate manj kot na vsako miljo.
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And this is also true of some remote oceanic islands.
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To velja tudi za nekatere oddaljene oceanske otoke.
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And so it seems that we use our language,
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In tako kaže, da jezika ne uporabljamo
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not just to cooperate,
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samo za sodelovanje,
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but to draw rings around our cooperative groups
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ampak tudi za sklepanje obročev okoli svojih skupin sodelovanja,
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and to establish identities,
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in da ustvarjamo identitete
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and perhaps to protect our knowledge and wisdom and skills
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ter morda ščitimo svoje znanje, modrost in sposobnosti
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from eavesdropping from outside.
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pred prisluškovanjem od zunaj.
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And we know this
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To vemo,
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because when we study different language groups
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ker pri raziskovanju različnih jezikovnih skupin
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and associate them with their cultures,
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in povezovanju z njihovimi kulturami
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we see that different languages
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vidimo, da različni jeziki
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slow the flow of ideas between groups.
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upočasnijo tok idej med skupinami.
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They slow the flow of technologies.
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Upočasnijo pretok tehnologij.
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And they even slow the flow of genes.
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Upočasnijo celo pretok genov.
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Now I can't speak for you,
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Lahko govorim samo zase,
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but it seems to be the case
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a zdi se,
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that we don't have sex with people we can't talk to.
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da ne spimo z ljudmi, s katerimi ne moremo govoriti.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Now we have to counter that, though,
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Temu seveda oporeka dejstvo,
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against the evidence we've heard
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da se je izkazalo,
14:49
that we might have had some rather distasteful genetic dalliances
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da smo bili vpleteni v določeno dokaj neokusno genetsko flirtanje
14:52
with the Neanderthals and the Denisovans.
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z neandertalci in denisovanci.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Okay, this tendency we have,
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No, to naše nagnjenje,
14:58
this seemingly natural tendency we have,
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to nekako naravno nagnjenje
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towards isolation, towards keeping to ourselves,
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k izolaciji, k zaprtosti vase,
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crashes head first into our modern world.
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čelno trči v naš moderni svet.
15:06
This remarkable image
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Tale zanimiva podoba
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is not a map of the world.
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ni zemljevid sveta.
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In fact, it's a map of Facebook friendship links.
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Gre za zemljevid prijateljskih povezav na Facebooku.
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And when you plot those friendship links
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Ko sestavite te povezave
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by their latitude and longitude,
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po zemljepisni širini in dolžini,
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it literally draws a map of the world.
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dobesedno nastane zemljevid sveta.
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Our modern world is communicating
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V našem modernem svetu komuniciramo
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with itself and with each other
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sami s seboj in drug z drugim
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more than it has
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bolj kot kdajkoli
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at any time in its past.
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v preteklosti.
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And that communication, that connectivity around the world,
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In ta komunikacija, ta globalna povezanost,
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that globalization
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ta globalizacija,
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now raises a burden.
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sedaj postaja breme.
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Because these different languages
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Zaradi različnih jezikov, ki
15:39
impose a barrier, as we've just seen,
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postavljajo ovire, kot smo ravno videli,
15:41
to the transfer of goods and ideas
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prenosu blaga in idej
15:43
and technologies and wisdom.
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ter tehnologij in modrosti.
15:45
And they impose a barrier to cooperation.
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Postavljajo ovire sodelovanju.
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And nowhere do we see that more clearly
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In to ni nikjer bolj očitno
15:51
than in the European Union,
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kot v Evropski uniji,
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whose 27 member countries
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katere 27 držav članic
15:56
speak 23 official languages.
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govori 23 uradnih jezikov.
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The European Union
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Evropska unija
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is now spending over one billion euros annually
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letno porabi preko milijardo evrov
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translating among their 23 official languages.
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za prevode med 23 uradnimi jeziki.
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That's something on the order
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To je okoli
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of 1.45 billion U.S. dollars
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1,45 milijarde dolarjev,
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on translation costs alone.
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samo za stroške prevajanja.
16:15
Now think of the absurdity of this situation.
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Pomislite na absurdnost te situacije.
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If 27 individuals
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Če bi 27 posameznikov
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from those 27 member states
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iz teh 27 držav članic
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sat around table, speaking their 23 languages,
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sedelo okoli mize in govorilo v svojih 23 jezikih,
16:24
some very simple mathematics will tell you
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vam bo preprost izračun povedal,
16:26
that you need an army of 253 translators
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da bi potrebovali vojsko 253 prevajalcev,
16:30
to anticipate all the pairwise possibilities.
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da bi bili pripravljeni na vse možne jezikovne pare.
16:34
The European Union employs a permanent staff
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Evropska unija stalno zaposluje
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of about 2,500 translators.
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okoli 2.500 prevajalcev.
16:39
And in 2007 alone --
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In samo leta 2007 --
16:41
and I'm sure there are more recent figures --
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prepričan sem, da obstajajo novejši podatki --
16:43
something on the order of 1.3 million pages
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so samo v angleščino prevedli
16:46
were translated into English alone.
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okoli 1,3 milijona strani.
16:49
And so if language really is
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Če je torej jezik resnično
16:52
the solution to the crisis of visual theft,
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pot do rešitve krize kraje videnega,
16:55
if language really is
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če je jezik dejansko
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the conduit of our cooperation,
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vodilo našega sodelovanja,
16:59
the technology that our species derived
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če je tehnologija, ki jo je naša vrsta razvila,
17:02
to promote the free flow and exchange of ideas,
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da bi spodbudila prost pretok in izmenjavo idej
17:06
in our modern world,
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v tem modernem svetu,
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we confront a question.
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potem se moramo soočiti z vprašanjem.
17:10
And that question is whether
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In to je, ali si
17:12
in this modern, globalized world
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v tem modernem globaliziranem svetu
17:14
we can really afford to have all these different languages.
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res lahko privoščimo imeti vse te raznolike jezike.
17:17
To put it this way, nature knows no other circumstance
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Naj pojasnim takole: narava ne pozna nobenega drugega primera,
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in which functionally equivalent traits coexist.
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kjer bi sobivale funkcionalno enakovredne lastnosti.
17:25
One of them always drives the other extinct.
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Ena bo vedno pognala druge v izumrtje.
17:28
And we see this in the inexorable march
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In to vidimo v neusmiljenem pohodu
17:30
towards standardization.
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v smeri standardizacije.
17:32
There are lots and lots of ways of measuring things --
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Obstaja ogromno načinov za merjenje stvari --
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weighing them and measuring their length --
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za tehtanje in merjenje dolžine --
17:37
but the metric system is winning.
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ampak metrični sistem prevladuje.
17:39
There are lots and lots of ways of measuring time,
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Obstaja veliko načinov merjenja časa,
17:42
but a really bizarre base 60 system
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ampak zelo bizarni sistem z osnovo 60,
17:45
known as hours and minutes and seconds
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znan kot ure, minute in sekunde,
17:47
is nearly universal around the world.
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je skoraj univerzalen.
17:50
There are many, many ways
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Obstaja mnogo načinov
17:52
of imprinting CDs or DVDs,
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snemanja CD-jev in DVD-jev,
17:54
but those are all being standardized as well.
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ampak tudi ti postajajo standardizirani.
17:57
And you can probably think of many, many more
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Verjetno lahko pomislite še na številne take primere
18:00
in your own everyday lives.
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iz svojega vsakdana.
18:02
And so our modern world now
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In tako se v našem modernem svetu
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is confronting us with a dilemma.
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soočamo z dilemo.
18:07
And it's the dilemma
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To je dilema
18:09
that this Chinese man faces,
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tegale Kitajca,
18:11
who's language is spoken
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čigar jezik govori
18:13
by more people in the world
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več ljudi
18:15
than any other single language,
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kot katerikoli drugi jezik,
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and yet he is sitting at his blackboard,
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a vseeno sedi pred svojo tablo
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converting Chinese phrases
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in pretvarja kitajske fraze
18:25
into English language phrases.
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v angleške fraze.
18:27
And what this does is it raises the possibility to us
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In to nam povečuje možnosti,
18:30
that in a world in which we want to promote
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da v svetu, v katerem
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cooperation and exchange,
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hočemo spodbujati sodelovanje in izmenjavo,
18:34
and in a world that might be dependent more than ever before
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v svetu, ki je morda bolj kot kdajkoli prej
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on cooperation
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odvisen od sodelovanja,
18:39
to maintain and enhance our levels of prosperity,
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da bi ohranil in okrepil blaginjo,
18:42
his actions suggest to us
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njegova dejanja nam pravijo,
18:44
it might be inevitable
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da je mogoče neizogibno,
18:46
that we have to confront the idea
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da se moramo soočiti z idejo,
18:48
that our destiny is to be one world with one language.
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da nas čaka usoda enega sveta z enim jezikom.
18:51
Thank you.
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Hvala.
18:53
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
19:01
Matt Ridley: Mark, one question.
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Matt Ridley: Mark, eno vprašanje.
19:03
Svante found that the FOXP2 gene,
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Svante je ugotovil, da so gen FOXP2,
19:06
which seems to be associated with language,
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ki naj bi bil povezan z jezikom,
19:08
was also shared in the same form
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v isti obliki kot mi imeli tudi
19:10
in Neanderthals as us.
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neandertalci.
19:12
Do we have any idea
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Ali morda vemo,
19:14
how we could have defeated Neanderthals
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kako bi bili lahko premagali neandertalce,
19:16
if they also had language?
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če bi tudi oni imeli jezik?
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Mark Pagel: This is a very good question.
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Mark Pagel: To je dobro vprašanje.
19:20
So many of you will be familiar with the idea that there's this gene called FOXP2
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Mnogi med vami poznate idejo o genu FOXP2,
19:23
that seems to be implicated in some ways
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ki naj bi bil na nek način povezan
19:26
in the fine motor control that's associated with language.
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z nadzorom fine motorike, potrebne za jezik.
19:29
The reason why I don't believe that tells us
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Ne verjamem, da nam to pove,
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that the Neanderthals had language
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da so neandertalci imeli jezik,
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is -- here's a simple analogy:
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in sicer zaradi enostavne analogije:
19:36
Ferraris are cars that have engines.
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Ferrari je avto, ki ima motor.
19:39
My car has an engine,
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Moj avto ima motor,
19:41
but it's not a Ferrari.
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ampak ni Ferrari.
19:43
Now the simple answer then
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Enostaven odgovor na to je,
19:45
is that genes alone don't, all by themselves,
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da geni sami po sebi
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determine the outcome
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ne določajo rezultata
19:49
of very complicated things like language.
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tako zapletene stvari, kot je jezik.
19:51
What we know about this FOXP2 and Neanderthals
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Kar vemo o FOXP2 in neandertalcih, je,
19:53
is that they may have had fine motor control of their mouths -- who knows.
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da so morda imeli fino motoriko ust -- kdo ve.
19:57
But that doesn't tell us they necessarily had language.
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A to nam ne pove nujno, da so imeli jezik.
19:59
MR: Thank you very much indeed.
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MR: Najlepša hvala.
20:01
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
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