Mark Pagel: How language transformed humanity

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Translator: Xosé María Moreno Reviewer: Juan Marcos Perez Gulin
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Each of you possesses
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Cada un de nós posúe
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the most powerful, dangerous and subversive trait
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o trazo máis poderoso, perigoso e subversivo
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that natural selection has ever devised.
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deseñado pola selección natural.
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It's a piece of neural audio technology
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É un peza de tecnoloxía audio-neuronal
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for rewiring other people's minds.
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para conectármonos coas mentes doutras persoas.
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I'm talking about your language, of course,
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Estou a falar da súa linguaxe, por suposto,
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because it allows you to implant a thought from your mind
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porque permite implantar un pensamento desde as súas mentes
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directly into someone else's mind,
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directamente na doutra persoa,
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and they can attempt to do the same to you,
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e eles poden facer o mesmo a vostedes,
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without either of you having to perform surgery.
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sen ninguén ter que practicar a cirurxía.
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Instead, when you speak,
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Pola contra, cando vostedes falan,
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you're actually using a form of telemetry
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empregan unha forma de telemetría
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not so different
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non tan diferente
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from the remote control device for your television.
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do mando a distancia da súa televisión.
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It's just that, whereas that device
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Simplemente, mentres ese trebello
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relies on pulses of infrared light,
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funciona en base a impulsos de luz infravermella,
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your language relies on pulses,
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a súa linguaxe funciona en base a impulsos,
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discrete pulses, of sound.
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impulsos individualizados, de son.
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And just as you use the remote control device
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E así como usan o mando a distancia
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to alter the internal settings of your television
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para alterar a configuración interna do seu televisor
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to suit your mood,
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para a súa completa satisfacción,
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you use your language
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vostedes usan a súa linguaxe
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to alter the settings inside someone else's brain
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para alterar a configuración interna do cerebro doutra persoa
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to suit your interests.
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para satisfacer os nosos intereses.
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Languages are genes talking,
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As linguaxes son xenes que falan,
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getting things that they want.
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para conseguir aquilo que desexan.
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And just imagine the sense of wonder in a baby
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Imaxinen o senso de abraiarse que un meniño ten
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when it first discovers that, merely by uttering a sound,
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cando por primeira vez descobre que ao emitir un son,
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it can get objects to move across a room
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pode conseguir que obxectos se movan na habitación
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as if by magic,
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como por arte de maxia,
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and maybe even into its mouth.
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e quizais incluso dentro da súa boca.
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Now language's subversive power
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O poder subversivo da linguaxe
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has been recognized throughout the ages
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ten sido recoñecido ao longo da Historia
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in censorship, in books you can't read,
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na censura, en libros que non podiamos ler,
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phrases you can't use
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frases que non podiamos usar
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and words you can't say.
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e palabras que non podiamos dicir.
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In fact, the Tower of Babel story in the Bible
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De feito, a historia bíblica da Torre de Babel
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is a fable and warning
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é unha fábula e un aviso
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about the power of language.
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sobre o poder da linguaxe.
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According to that story, early humans developed the conceit
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Segundo nos conta a lenda, os primeiros humanos pensaron
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that, by using their language to work together,
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que se usaban a linguaxe para traballaren xuntos,
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they could build a tower
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poderían construír unha torre
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that would take them all the way to heaven.
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que os levaría até o ceo.
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Now God, angered at this attempt to usurp his power,
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Deus, encabuxado ante este intento de usurpar o seu poder,
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destroyed the tower,
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destruíu a torre,
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and then to ensure
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e daquela para asegurarse
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that it would never be rebuilt,
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de que nunca sería reconstruída,
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he scattered the people by giving them different languages --
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dividiu a xente dándolles distintas linguaxes --
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confused them by giving them different languages.
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e confundilos así dándolles diferentes linguas.
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And this leads to the wonderful irony
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E isto non leva a unha ironía marabillosa:
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that our languages exist to prevent us from communicating.
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as linguas existen para evitar que nos comuniquemos
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Even today,
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Incluso hoxe,
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we know that there are words we cannot use,
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sabemos que hai palabras que non podemos usar,
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phrases we cannot say,
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frases que non podemos dicir,
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because if we do so,
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porque se o facemos,
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we might be accosted, jailed,
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poderiamos ser acosados, arrestados,
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or even killed.
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ou incluso asasinados.
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And all of this from a puff of air
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E todo isto a causa dun sopro de ar
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emanating from our mouths.
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que sae das nosas bocas.
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Now all this fuss about a single one of our traits
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Toda esta lea sobre un dos nosos trazos
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tells us there's something worth explaining.
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din que paga a pena dar explicacións.
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And that is how and why
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E iso é o como e o por que
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did this remarkable trait evolve,
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esta importante trazo evoluíu,
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and why did it evolve
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e por que evolúe
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only in our species?
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só na nosa especie?
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Now it's a little bit of a surprise
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É un pouco sorprendente
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that to get an answer to that question,
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que para ter unha resposta a esta pregunta,
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we have to go to tool use
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temos que estudar o uso de ferramentas
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in the chimpanzees.
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nos chimancés.
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Now these chimpanzees are using tools,
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Estes chimpacés están usando ferramentas,
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and we take that as a sign of their intelligence.
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e tomamos iso como un signo de intelixencia.
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But if they really were intelligent,
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Mais se eles fosen en verdade intelixentes,
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why would they use a stick to extract termites from the ground
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porque usan un garabullo para extraer térmites do chan
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rather than a shovel?
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e non unha pa?
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And if they really were intelligent,
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E se fosen en verdade intelixentes,
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why would they crack open nuts with a rock?
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por que escachan as noces cun croio?
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Why wouldn't they just go to a shop and buy a bag of nuts
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Por que non van a unha tenda e mercan unha bolsa de noces
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that somebody else had already cracked open for them?
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que previamente alguén llelas escachou?
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Why not? I mean, that's what we do.
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Por que non? Iso é o que nós facemos.
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Now the reason the chimpanzees don't do that
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A razón pola que os chimpacés non o fan
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is that they lack what psychologists and anthropologists call
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é porque carecen do que os psicólogos e antropólogos chaman
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social learning.
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aprendizaxe social.
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They seem to lack the ability
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Seica carecen da capacidade
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to learn from others
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de aprenderen dos outros
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by copying or imitating
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copiando ou imitando
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or simply watching.
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ou simplemente observando.
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As a result,
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En consecuencia,
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they can't improve on others' ideas
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non poden mellorar grazas ás ideas dos demais
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or learn from others' mistakes --
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ou aprenderen dos erros dos outros --
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benefit from others' wisdom.
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beneficiárense da sabedoría dos demais.
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And so they just do the same thing
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Non fan máis que repetir o mesmo
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over and over and over again.
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unha e outra vez.
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In fact, we could go away for a million years and come back
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De feito, poderíamos ausentarnos durante un millón de anos e regresarmos
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and these chimpanzees would be doing the same thing
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e estes chimpancés estarían facendo o mesmo
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with the same sticks for the termites
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co mesmo garabullo para as térmites
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and the same rocks to crack open the nuts.
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e o mesmo croio para escacharen as noces.
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Now this may sound arrogant, or even full of hubris.
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Isto pode soar arrogante, ou incluso petulante.
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How do we know this?
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Como sabemos todo isto?
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Because this is exactly what our ancestors, the Homo erectus, did.
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porque isto é exactamento o que os nosos devanceiros, o Homo erectus, fixeron.
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These upright apes
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Estes monos ergueitos
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evolved on the African savanna
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evolucionaron na sabana africana
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about two million years ago,
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hai aproximadamente dous millóns de anos,
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and they made these splendid hand axes
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fixeron estas impresionantes machadas
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that fit wonderfully into your hands.
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que se adaptan marabillosamente nas nosas mans.
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But if we look at the fossil record,
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Mais se estudamos os restos fósiles,
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we see that they made the same hand axe
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vemos que fixeron a mesma machada
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over and over and over again
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unha e outra vez
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for one million years.
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durante un millón de anos.
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You can follow it through the fossil record.
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Podemos comprobalo a través dos restos fósiles.
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Now if we make some guesses about how long Homo erectus lived,
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Se estimamos durante cantos anos viviu o Home erectus,
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what their generation time was,
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cal foi o tempo da súa xeración,
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that's about 40,000 generations
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pois unhas 40.000 xeracións
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of parents to offspring, and other individuals watching,
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de pais a crianzas, mais outros individuos observando,
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in which that hand axe didn't change.
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durante o que esta machada non foi alterou.
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It's not even clear
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Nin siquera está claro
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that our very close genetic relatives, the Neanderthals,
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se os nosos parentes xeneticamente próximos, os neardentais,
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had social learning.
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tiveran aprendizaxe social.
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Sure enough, their tools were more complicated
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Sen dúbida, as súas ferramentas eran máis complexas
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than those of Homo erectus,
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ca as dos Homo erectus,
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but they too showed very little change
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mais non se aprecian moitos cambios
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over the 300,000 years or so
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durante os 300.000 anos ou así
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that those species, the Neanderthals,
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que a especie dos Neandertais,
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lived in Eurasia.
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viviron en Eurasia.
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Okay, so what this tells us
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Daquela, o que isto nos di
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is that, contrary to the old adage,
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é que, ao contrario do vello adaxio,
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"monkey see, monkey do,"
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"o que o mono ve, o mono fai",
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the surprise really is
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a sorpresa está
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that all of the other animals
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en que todos os demais animais
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really cannot do that -- at least not very much.
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non poden facer o mesmo -- candomenos non moito.
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And even this picture
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E incluso esta foto
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has the suspicious taint of being rigged about it --
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podemos sospeitar que foi manipulada --
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something from a Barnum & Bailey circus.
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algún asuntiño do circo Barnum & Bailey.
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But by comparison,
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Mais en comparación,
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we can learn.
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nosoutros podemos aprender.
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We can learn by watching other people
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Podemos aprender observando os outros
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and copying or imitating
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e copiando ou remedando
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what they can do.
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o que poden facer.
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We can then choose, from among a range of options,
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Podemos daquela escoller, entre un abano de opcións,
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the best one.
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a mellor.
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We can benefit from others' ideas.
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Podemos beneficiarnos das ideas dos outros.
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We can build on their wisdom.
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Podemos construír a nosa propia sabedoría.
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And as a result, our ideas do accumulate,
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E como resultado, acumulamos as nosas ideas,
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and our technology progresses.
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e a nosa tecnoloxía progresa.
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And this cumulative cultural adaptation,
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E esta adaptación cultural acumulativa,
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as anthropologists call
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así é como o chaman os antropólogos
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this accumulation of ideas,
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esta acumulación de ideas,
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is responsible for everything around you
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é reponsabel de todo o que nos rodea
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in your bustling and teeming everyday lives.
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na nosa axetreada vida cotiá
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I mean the world has changed out of all proportion
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O mundo cambiou enormemente
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to what we would recognize
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con aquel que recoñeceriamos
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even 1,000 or 2,000 years ago.
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incluso hai 1000 ou 2000 anos.
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And all of this because of cumulative cultural adaptation.
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E todo isto debémosllo á adaptacion cultural acumulativa.
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The chairs you're sitting in, the lights in this auditorium,
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As cadeiras sobre as que están sentados, as luces neste auditorio
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my microphone, the iPads and iPods that you carry around with you --
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o meu micrófono, os iPads e iPods que portades --
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all are a result
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todos son resultado
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of cumulative cultural adaptation.
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da adaptación cultural acumulativa.
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Now to many commentators,
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Agora para moitos comentaristas,
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cumulative cultural adaptation, or social learning,
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a adaptación cultural acumulativa, ou aprendizaxe social,
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is job done, end of story.
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está xa o traballo feito, fin da historia.
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Our species can make stuff,
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A nosa especie pode facer cousas,
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therefore we prospered in a way that no other species has.
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daquela prosperamos nun xeito que outras especies non poden.
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In fact, we can even make the "stuff of life" --
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De feito, incluso podemos facer a "materia da vida" --
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as I just said, all the stuff around us.
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como xa dixen, todo o que nos rodea.
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But in fact, it turns out
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Pero en realidade, resulta
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that some time around 200,000 years ago,
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que hai arredor de 200.000 anos
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when our species first arose
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cando apareceu a nosa especie
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and acquired social learning,
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e adquiriu a aprendizaxe social,
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that this was really the beginning of our story,
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así foi realmente o principio da nosa historia,
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not the end of our story.
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non o final da nosa historia.
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Because our acquisition of social learning
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Porque a nosa adquisición da aprendizaxe social
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would create a social and evolutionary dilemma,
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crearía un dilema social e evolutivo,
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the resolution of which, it's fair to say,
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a súa resolución, é xusto dicilo,
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would determine not only the future course of our psychology,
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determinaría non só o curso futuro da nosa psicoloxía,
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but the future course of the entire world.
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senón o curso futuro do mundo enteiro.
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And most importantly for this,
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E máis importante que todo isto,
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it'll tell us why we have language.
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diríanos por que temos linguaxe.
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And the reason that dilemma arose
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e a razón que este dilema provoca
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is, it turns out, that social learning is visual theft.
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é que a aprendizaxe social é un roubo visual.
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If I can learn by watching you,
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Se eu podo aprender observándote,
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I can steal your best ideas,
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podo roubar as túas mellores ideas,
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and I can benefit from your efforts,
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e podo beneficiarme dos teus esforzos,
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without having to put in the time and energy that you did
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sen ter que poñer a tempo e enerxía que ti puxeches
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into developing them.
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para desenvolvelas.
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If I can watch which lure you use to catch a fish,
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Se podo observar que isca usas para pescar,
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or I can watch how you flake your hand axe
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ou podo observar como fas lascas coa túa machada
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to make it better,
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para perfeccionala,
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or if I follow you secretly to your mushroom patch,
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ou se secretamente te sigo até o teu roteiro de cogomelos
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I can benefit from your knowledge and wisdom and skills,
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podo beneficiarme do teu coñecemento, sabedoría e habilidades
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and maybe even catch that fish
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e incluso pescar ese peixe
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before you do.
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antes ca ti.
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Social learning really is visual theft.
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A aprendizaxe social en realidade é un roubo visual.
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And in any species that acquired it,
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E en calquera especie que a adquirise,
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it would behoove you
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sería moi oportuno
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to hide your best ideas,
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ocultar as túas mellores ideas,
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lest somebody steal them from you.
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para que ninguén poida roubarchas.
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And so some time around 200,000 years ago,
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Hai arredor de 200.000 anos,
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our species confronted this crisis.
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a nosa especie afrontou esta crise.
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And we really had only two options
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E tivemos só dúas opcións
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for dealing with the conflicts
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para lidar cos conflitos
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that visual theft would bring.
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que o roubo visual podería causarnos.
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One of those options
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Unha desas opcións
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was that we could have retreated
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foi que tiñamos que vivir
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into small family groups.
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en pequenos grupos familiares.
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Because then the benefits of our ideas and knowledge
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Porque así os beneficios das nosas ideas e coñecemento
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would flow just to our relatives.
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só sería transmitido aos nosos parentes.
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Had we chosen this option,
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Se escollésemos esta opción,
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sometime around 200,000 years ago,
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hai aproximadamente uns 200,000 anos,
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we would probably still be living like the Neanderthals were
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probabelmente estariamos vivindo como os Neandertais
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when we first entered Europe 40,000 years ago.
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cando por primeira vez entramos en Europa hai 40.000 anos.
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And this is because in small groups
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Porque en grupos pequenos
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there are fewer ideas, there are fewer innovations.
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hai menos ideas, hai menos innovacións.
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And small groups are more prone to accidents and bad luck.
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E os grupos pequenos son máis propensos a accidentes e mala sorte.
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So if we'd chosen that path,
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Daquela se escollésemos ese camiño,
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our evolutionary path would have led into the forest --
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a nosa liña evolutiva nos levaría ao bosque --
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and been a short one indeed.
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e sen dúbida sería moi curta.
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The other option we could choose
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A outra opción a escoller
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was to develop the systems of communication
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foi desenvolvermos uns sistemas de comunicación
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that would allow us to share ideas
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que nos permitiría compartir ideas
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and to cooperate amongst others.
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e cooperar con outros.
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Choosing this option would mean
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Escollermos esta opcións significaría
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that a vastly greater fund of accumulated knowledge and wisdom
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que unha inxente bolsa de coñecemento e sabedoría acumulada
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would become available to any one individual
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estaría ao dispor de calquera individuo
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than would ever arise from within an individual family
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en comparación co que xurdiría desde dentro dunha pequena familia
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or an individual person on their own.
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ou un individuo en particular.
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Well, we chose the second option,
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Pois ben, escollimos esta segunda opción,
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and language is the result.
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e o resultado é a linguaxe.
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Language evolved to solve the crisis
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A linguaxe desenvolveuse para solucionar a crise
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of visual theft.
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do roubo visual.
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Language is a piece of social technology
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A linguaxe é unha peza de tecnoloxía social
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for enhancing the benefits of cooperation --
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para mellorar os beneficios da cooperación --
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for reaching agreements, for striking deals
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para acadar acordos, para pechar negocios
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and for coordinating our activities.
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e para coordinar as nosas actividades.
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And you can see that, in a developing society
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Podedes ver que, nunha sociedade en desenvolvemento
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that was beginning to acquire language,
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que estaba empezando a adquirir a linguxe,
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not having language
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non ter linguaxe
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would be a like a bird without wings.
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sería como un paxaro sen as.
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Just as wings open up this sphere of air
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Como as as que abren esta esfera de ar
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for birds to exploit,
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para que os paxaros o utilicen,
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language opened up the sphere of cooperation
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a linguaxe abre a esfera da comunicación
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for humans to exploit.
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para que os humanos a utilicen.
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And we take this utterly for granted,
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E tomamos isto como algo xa dado,
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because we're a species that is so at home with language,
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porque somos unha especie que se sente como na casa coa linguxe
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but you have to realize
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mais teñen vostedes que decatarse de
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that even the simplest acts of exchange that we engage in
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que incluso os máis cativos actos de intercambio en que intervimos
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are utterly dependent upon language.
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son completamente dependentes da linguaxe.
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And to see why, consider two scenarios
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E para vermos o por que, consideren estes dous escenarios
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from early in our evolution.
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desde os inicios da nosa evolución.
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Let's imagine that you are really good
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Imaxinen que son vostedes moi bos
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at making arrowheads,
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facendo puntas de frecha,
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but you're hopeless at making the wooden shafts
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mais son incapaces de facer o corpo de madeira
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with the flight feathers attached.
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coas prumas incluídas.
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Two other people you know are very good at making the wooden shafts,
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Coñecen dúas persoas moi boas facendo a frecha de madeira,
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but they're hopeless at making the arrowheads.
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mais son negados ao faceren as puntas.
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So what you do is --
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O que hai que facer é --
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one of those people has not really acquired language yet.
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unha desas persoas non ten adquirida aínda a linguaxe.
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And let's pretend the other one is good at language skills.
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E poñamos que a outra é boa coas habilidades lingüísticas.
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So what you do one day is you take a pile of arrowheads,
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Así que o que facemos un día é coller un feixe de puntas de frecha,
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and you walk up to the one that can't speak very well,
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e camiñarmos até aquel que non sabe falar moi ben,
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and you put the arrowheads down in front of him,
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e poñemos as puntas diante del,
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hoping that he'll get the idea that you want to trade your arrowheads
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desexando que se figure que queremos trocar as puntas de frecha
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for finished arrows.
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polos corpos de madeira das frechas.
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But he looks at the pile of arrowheads, thinks they're a gift,
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Mais el olla para o feixe de puntas, pensa que son un agasallo,
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picks them up, smiles and walks off.
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recólleas, sorrí e marcha.
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Now you pursue this guy, gesticulating.
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Agora vostedes perseguen a este fulano, xesticulando.
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A scuffle ensues and you get stabbed
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Hai unha disputa e vostede é ferido
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with one of your own arrowheads.
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cunha das súas puntas de frecha.
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Okay, now replay this scene now, and you're approaching the one who has language.
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Moi ben, rebobinemos a escena, e agora dirímonos a persoa capaz de falar.
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You put down your arrowheads and say,
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Pousamos as puntas e dicimos,
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"I'd like to trade these arrowheads for finished arrows. I'll split you 50/50."
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"Gustaríame trocar estas puntas polo corpo de madeira rematados. Imos ao 50%."
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The other one says, "Fine. Looks good to me.
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O outro di, "De acordo. Paréceme ben.
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We'll do that."
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Fagámolo."
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Now the job is done.
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E o choio está feito.
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Once we have language,
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Unha vez que temos a linguaxe,
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we can put our ideas together and cooperate
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podemos compartir as nosas ideas e cooperar
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to have a prosperity
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para ter a prosperidade
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that we couldn't have before we acquired it.
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que non podiamos ter antes de saber falar.
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And this is why our species
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Isto explica por que a nosa especie
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has prospered around the world
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ten prosperado ao longo do mundo
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while the rest of the animals
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mentres o resto dos animais
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sit behind bars in zoos, languishing.
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están detrás dos barrotes dun zoo, esmorecendo.
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That's why we build space shuttles and cathedrals
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É a razón de que construamos lanzadeiras espaciais e catedrais
11:39
while the rest of the world sticks sticks into the ground
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mentres o resto do mundo fica chantado no chan
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to extract termites.
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para extraer térmites.
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All right, if this view of language
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De acordo, se esta visión da linguaxe
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and its value
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e o seu valor
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in solving the crisis of visual theft is true,
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para resolver a crise do roubo visual é certa,
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any species that acquires it
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calquera especie que a adquira
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should show an explosion of creativity and prosperity.
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debería amosar unha explosión de creatividade e prosperidade.
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And this is exactly what the archeological record shows.
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E isto é exactamente o que proba o estudo arqueolóxico.
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If you look at our ancestors,
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Se observan os nosos devanceiros,
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the Neanderthals and the Homo erectus, our immediate ancestors,
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os Neandertais e os Homo erectus, os nosos devanceiros máis próximos,
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they're confined to small regions of the world.
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Eles ficaron confinados a pequenas rexións do mundo.
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But when our species arose
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Mais cando a nosa especie aparece
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about 200,000 years ago,
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hai uns 200.000 anos,
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sometime after that we quickly walked out of Africa
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algo máis tarde de que rapidamente abandonásemos África
12:14
and spread around the entire world,
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e nos espallásemos polo mundo enteiro,
12:17
occupying nearly every habitat on Earth.
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ocupando case todos os hábitats do mundo.
12:20
Now whereas other species are confined
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Agora en calquera lugar en que outras especies estivesen confinadas
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to places that their genes adapt them to,
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en lugares para os que os seus xenes estives adaptados,
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with social learning and language,
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coa aprendizaxe social e a linguaxe,
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we could transform the environment
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poderiamos transformar o noso entorno
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to suit our needs.
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para satisfacer as nosas necesidades.
12:32
And so we prospered in a way
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E así prosperamos dun xeito
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that no other animal has.
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único entre os animais.
12:36
Language really is
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A linguaxe é realmente
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the most potent trait that has ever evolved.
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o trazo máis potente de toda a Evolución..
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It is the most valuable trait we have
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É o trazo máis valioso que temos
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for converting new lands and resources
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para convertir novos territorios e recursos
12:48
into more people and their genes
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en máis xente e os seus xenes
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that natural selection has ever devised.
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desde que a Evolución está operativa.
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Language really is
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A linguaxe é realmente
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the voice of our genes.
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a voz dos nosos xenes.
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Now having evolved language, though,
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Agora unha vez evolucionada a linguaxe, daquela,
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we did something peculiar,
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fixemos algo peculiar,
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even bizarre.
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incluso raro.
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As we spread out around the world,
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Durante o noso espallamente polo mundo,
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we developed thousands of different languages.
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desenvolvemos milleiros de diferentes linguas.
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Currently, there are about seven or 8,000
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Seica hai entre sete e 8000
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different languages spoken on Earth.
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linguas diferentes faladas na Terra.
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Now you might say, well, this is just natural.
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Vostedes dirán, pois ben, isto é algo natural.
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As we diverge, our languages are naturally going to diverge.
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Ao tempo que nós diverxemos, as nosas linguas naturalmente tamén diverxirán.
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But the real puzzle and irony
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Máis o realmente complicado e irónico
13:20
is that the greatest density of different languages on Earth
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é que a densidade máis grande de diferentes linguas na Terra
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is found where people are most tightly packed together.
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atópase onde a xente está máis xunta.
13:27
If we go to the island of Papua New Guinea,
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Se imos á illa de Papua Nova Guinea,
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we can find about 800 to 1,000
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Podemos atopar entre 800 e 1000
13:32
distinct human languages,
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linguas distintas,
13:34
different human languages,
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linguas humanas diferentes,
13:36
spoken on that island alone.
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faladas só nesa illa.
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There are places on that island
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Hai lugares nesa illa
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where you can encounter a new language
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onde podemos descubrir unha nova lingua
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every two or three miles.
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cada 3 ou 4,5 Km.
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Now, incredible as this sounds,
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Claro, por incríbel que pareza,
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I once met a Papuan man, and I asked him if this could possibly be true.
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coñecín unha vez a un Papuano e pregunteille se isto podía ser certo.
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And he said to me, "Oh no.
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Díxome, "Non oh.
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They're far closer together than that."
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Están moito máis preto ca iso."
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And it's true; there are places on that island
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E é verdade; hai lugares na illa
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where you can encounter a new language in under a mile.
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onde podemos topar cunha nova lingua sen saír dun 1,5 km.
13:59
And this is also true of some remote oceanic islands.
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E isto tamén sucede nalgunhas remotas illas oceánicas.
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And so it seems that we use our language,
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Daquela parece que usamos a nosa linguaxe,
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not just to cooperate,
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non só para cooperar,
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but to draw rings around our cooperative groups
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senón para trazar aneis arredor dos nosos grupos coorporativos
14:10
and to establish identities,
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e para establecer identidades,
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and perhaps to protect our knowledge and wisdom and skills
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e se cadra para protexer o noso coñecemento, sabedoría e habilidades
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from eavesdropping from outside.
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da curiosidade dos estraños.
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And we know this
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Sabemos todo isto
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because when we study different language groups
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porque cando estudamos diferentes grupos de linguas
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and associate them with their cultures,
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e asociámolas coas súas culturas,
14:24
we see that different languages
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vemos que linguas diferentes
14:26
slow the flow of ideas between groups.
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frean a transmisión de ideas entre os grupos.
14:29
They slow the flow of technologies.
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Frean a transmisión de tecnoloxías.
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And they even slow the flow of genes.
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E incluso frean a transmisión de xenes.
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Now I can't speak for you,
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Non podo falar por vostedes,
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but it seems to be the case
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mais parece ser o caso
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that we don't have sex with people we can't talk to.
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de que non temos sexo con xente coa que non podemos falar.
14:43
(Laughter)
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(Risas)
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Now we have to counter that, though,
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Debemos telo en conta, pois,
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against the evidence we've heard
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en contra da evidencia que ouvimos
14:49
that we might have had some rather distasteful genetic dalliances
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sobre que puidemos ter algunhas desagradábeis alianzas xenéticas
14:52
with the Neanderthals and the Denisovans.
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cos Neardentais e os homínidos de Denisova.
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(Laughter)
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(Risos)
14:56
Okay, this tendency we have,
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Ben, esta tendencia que temos,
14:58
this seemingly natural tendency we have,
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esta aparente tendencia natural que temos,
15:00
towards isolation, towards keeping to ourselves,
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cara ao illamento, cara mirar para nosoutros,
15:03
crashes head first into our modern world.
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esnáfrase contra o noso mundo moderno.
15:06
This remarkable image
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Esta salientábel imaxe
15:08
is not a map of the world.
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non é un mapa do mundo.
15:10
In fact, it's a map of Facebook friendship links.
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De feito, é o mapa de ligazóns de amizade en Facebook.
15:14
And when you plot those friendship links
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E cando localizamos esas ligazóns de amizade
15:16
by their latitude and longitude,
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na súa latitude e lonxitude,
15:18
it literally draws a map of the world.
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vese con exactitude o mapa do mundo.
15:21
Our modern world is communicating
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O noso mundo moderno é comunicación
15:23
with itself and with each other
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consigo mesmo e entre todos
15:25
more than it has
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mais do que o fixo
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at any time in its past.
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en calquera momento do seu pasado.
15:29
And that communication, that connectivity around the world,
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E esa comunicación, esa conectividade arredor do mundo,
15:32
that globalization
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esa globalización
15:34
now raises a burden.
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agora ten unha pexa.
15:37
Because these different languages
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Porque esas diferentes linguas
15:39
impose a barrier, as we've just seen,
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impoñen unha barreira, como acabamos de ver,
15:41
to the transfer of goods and ideas
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para transferir bens e ideas
15:43
and technologies and wisdom.
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e tecnoloxías e sabedoría.
15:45
And they impose a barrier to cooperation.
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E impoñen unha barreira á cooperación.
15:48
And nowhere do we see that more clearly
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E en ningures o vemos tan claro como
15:51
than in the European Union,
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na Unión Europea,
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whose 27 member countries
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cuxos 27 membros
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speak 23 official languages.
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falan 23 linguas oficiais.
15:59
The European Union
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A Unión Europea
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is now spending over one billion euros annually
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agora gasta uns 1000 millóns de euros ao ano
16:05
translating among their 23 official languages.
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para a tradución entre as súas 23 linguas oficiais.
16:08
That's something on the order
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Iso supón arredor
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of 1.45 billion U.S. dollars
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de 1.450 millóns de dólares
16:12
on translation costs alone.
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só en gasto de tradución.
16:15
Now think of the absurdity of this situation.
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Pensen no absurdo da situación.
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If 27 individuals
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Se 27 individuos
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from those 27 member states
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de cada un dos 27 estados membros
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sat around table, speaking their 23 languages,
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sentan arredor dunha mesa a falar nas súas 23 linguas,
16:24
some very simple mathematics will tell you
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unha matemática moi simpre nos dirá
16:26
that you need an army of 253 translators
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que necesitan vostedes un exército de 253 tradutores
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to anticipate all the pairwise possibilities.
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para cubrir todas as posibilidades de emparellamento.
16:34
The European Union employs a permanent staff
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A Unión Europea emprega unha plantilla permanente
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of about 2,500 translators.
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de aproximadamente 2500 tradutores
16:39
And in 2007 alone --
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E só en 2007 --
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and I'm sure there are more recent figures --
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e estou seguro de que hai cifras máis actualizadas --
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something on the order of 1.3 million pages
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arredor de 1,3 millóns de páxinas
16:46
were translated into English alone.
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foron traducidas en concreto ao inglés.
16:49
And so if language really is
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Se unha lingua realmente é
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the solution to the crisis of visual theft,
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a solución á crise do roubo visual,
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if language really is
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se a lingua é realmente
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the conduit of our cooperation,
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o medio para a nosa cooperación,
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the technology that our species derived
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a tecnoloxía que a nosa especie creou
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to promote the free flow and exchange of ideas,
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para incentivar a libre transferencia e troca de ideas,
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in our modern world,
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no mundo moderno,
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we confront a question.
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debemos afrontar unha pregunta.
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And that question is whether
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A pregunta é se
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in this modern, globalized world
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neste moderno, globalizado mundo
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we can really afford to have all these different languages.
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podemos asumir ter todas estas linguas diferentes.
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To put it this way, nature knows no other circumstance
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A natureza non coñece outra situación
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in which functionally equivalent traits coexist.
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en que trazos funcionalmente equivalentes coexistan.
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One of them always drives the other extinct.
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Un deles sempre provoca a extinción do outro.
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And we see this in the inexorable march
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Vémolo na inexorábel marcha
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towards standardization.
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cara a estandarización.
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There are lots and lots of ways of measuring things --
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Hai montes e moreas de xeitos para medir as cousas --
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weighing them and measuring their length --
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pesando e medindo a súa lonxitude --
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but the metric system is winning.
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máis o vencedor é o sistema métrico.
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There are lots and lots of ways of measuring time,
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Hai moitas maneiras de medir o tempo,
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but a really bizarre base 60 system
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máis o estrañísimo sistema de base 60
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known as hours and minutes and seconds
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que mide as horas, minutos e segundos
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is nearly universal around the world.
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é case universal en todo o mundo.
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There are many, many ways
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Hai moitos, moitos xeitos
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of imprinting CDs or DVDs,
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de imprimir CDs ou DVDs,
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but those are all being standardized as well.
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mais todos estas xa estandarizados.
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And you can probably think of many, many more
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Probablemente podemos pensar en moitos, moitos máis
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in your own everyday lives.
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na nosa vida cotiá.
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And so our modern world now
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O noso moderno mundo agora
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is confronting us with a dilemma.
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colócanos antre un dilema.
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And it's the dilemma
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O dilema é
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that this Chinese man faces,
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o mesmo que este chinés ten que afrontar ,
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who's language is spoken
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a súa é a lingua máis falada
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by more people in the world
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en todo o mundo
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than any other single language,
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máis que calquera outra,
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and yet he is sitting at his blackboard,
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mais el está sentado ante o seu encerado,
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converting Chinese phrases
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convertindo frases chinesas
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into English language phrases.
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en inglesas.
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And what this does is it raises the possibility to us
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O que isto fai é que nos ofrece a posibilidade
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that in a world in which we want to promote
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de que nun mundo en que queremos incentivar
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cooperation and exchange,
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a cooperación e o intercambio,
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and in a world that might be dependent more than ever before
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e nun mundo que é máis dependente agora ca nunca
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on cooperation
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na cooperación
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to maintain and enhance our levels of prosperity,
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para manter e mellorar os nosos niveis de prosperidade,
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his actions suggest to us
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as súas accións suxírennos
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it might be inevitable
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que podería ser inevitábel
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that we have to confront the idea
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que teñamos a asumir a idea
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that our destiny is to be one world with one language.
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de que o noso destino é ser un único mundo cunha única lingua.
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Thank you.
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Grazas.
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(Applause)
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Matt Ridley: Mark, one question.
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Matt Ridley: Mark, unha pregunta.
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Svante found that the FOXP2 gene,
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Svante descubriu que o xene FOXP2
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which seems to be associated with language,
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ao parecer asociado coa linguaxe,
19:08
was also shared in the same form
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é compartido dalgún xeito
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in Neanderthals as us.
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entre os Neanderthais e nós.
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Do we have any idea
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Tes algunha idea
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how we could have defeated Neanderthals
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en como puidemos vencer os Neandertais
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if they also had language?
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se eles tamén tiñan linguaxe?
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Mark Pagel: This is a very good question.
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Mark Pagel: Esta é unha moi boa pregunta.
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So many of you will be familiar with the idea that there's this gene called FOXP2
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Moitos estades familiarizados coa idea de que hai un xene chamado FOXP2
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that seems to be implicated in some ways
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que parece implicado dalgún xeito
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in the fine motor control that's associated with language.
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no control motor asociado coa linguaxe.
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The reason why I don't believe that tells us
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A razón porque eu non creo en que nos indique
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that the Neanderthals had language
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que os Neardentais tiñan linguaxe
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is -- here's a simple analogy:
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é --permítanme unha simple analoxía:
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Ferraris are cars that have engines.
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Ferraris son coches que teñen motores.
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My car has an engine,
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O meu coche ten un motor,
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but it's not a Ferrari.
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mais non é un Ferrari.
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Now the simple answer then
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Agora a resposta simple é
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is that genes alone don't, all by themselves,
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que os xenes por si sós non
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determine the outcome
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determinan un resultado final
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of very complicated things like language.
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tan complicado coma a linguaxe.
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What we know about this FOXP2 and Neanderthals
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O que sabemos sobre o FOXP2 e os Neandertais
19:53
is that they may have had fine motor control of their mouths -- who knows.
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é que puideron ter o control motor das súas bocas --quen sabe.
19:57
But that doesn't tell us they necessarily had language.
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Mais iso non nos di que necesariamente tiñan linguaxe.
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MR: Thank you very much indeed.
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MR: Moitas grazas de verdade.
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