How can we control the coronavirus pandemic? | Adam Kucharski

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翻译人员: Yizhuo He 校对人员: Yanyan Hong
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[How can we control the coronavirus pandemic?]
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【我们该如何控制住 新冠病毒的传播?】
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[From infectious disease expert Adam Kucharski]
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【传染病学家:亚当 · 库哈尔斯基】
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[Question 1: What does containment mean when it comes to outbreaks?]
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【问题1:我们应该怎样 控制住流行病的蔓延?】
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Containment is this idea that you can focus your effort on control
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对疫情的控制指的是集中精力
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very much on the cases and their contacts.
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控制住确诊病例 和与他们有接触的人。
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So you're not causing disruption to the wider population,
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这样就不会引起 人群大规模的混乱,
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you have a case that comes in, you isolate them,
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一发现确诊病例, 就将他们进行隔离,
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you work out who they've come into contact with,
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找出与他们有过接触的人,
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who's potentially these opportunities for exposure
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存在被感染可能性的人,
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and then you can follow up those people,
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然后持续跟进这群人,
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maybe quarantine them, to make sure that no further transmission happens.
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或者将他们进行隔离, 确保疫情不会进一步蔓延。
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So it's a very focused, targeted method,
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所以这是一种针对性很强的方法,
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and for SARS, it worked remarkably well.
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这种方法对控制非典 (SARS)来说很奏效。
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But I think for this infection,
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但我认为对于这次的感染,
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because some cases are going to be missed, or undetected,
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因为有些病例不会被发现和检测到,
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you've really got to be capturing a large chunk of people at risk.
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就得注意一大群 存在被感染风险的人。
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If a few slip through the net,
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如果有漏网之鱼,
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potentially, you're going to get an outbreak.
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那么就会面临 疫情爆发的潜在风险。
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[Question 2: If containment isn't enough, what comes next?]
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【问题2:如果光控制疫情还不够的话, 我们下一步应该做什么?】
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In that respect,
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那样的话,
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it would be about massive changes in our social interactions.
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我们的社交方式 需要进行巨大改变。
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And so that would require,
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那包括,
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of the opportunities that could spread the virus
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减少所有可能导致 病毒传播的机会,
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so these kind of close contacts,
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像是近距离接触,
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everybody in the population, on average,
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平均而言,每个人
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will be needing to reduce those interactions
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就得减少大约三分之二
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potentially by two-thirds to bring it under control.
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这种近接触的机会 才能有效控制疫情传播。
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That might be through working from home,
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可以通过在家办公,
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from changing lifestyle
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改变生活方式,
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and kind of where you go in crowded places and dinners.
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不去拥挤的场所与餐厅来实现。
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And of course, these measures, things like school closures,
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当然了,像是关闭学校
和其他的措施,只能做到
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and other things that just attempt to reduce
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the social mixing of a population.
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尽量避免人群密集接触。
01:39
[Question 3: What are the risks that we need people to think about?]
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【问题3:我们需要考虑到 哪些可能被传染的风险?】
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It's not just whose hand you shake,
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重要的不只是你和哪些人握了手,
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it's whose hand that person goes on to shake.
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还有那些人会和哪些人握手。
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And I think we need to think about these second-degree steps,
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我认为我们应该考虑下 这些第二阶段的步骤,
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that you might think you have low risk
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你也许会觉得 你被感染的风险很低,
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and you're in a younger group,
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你比较年轻,
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but you're often going to be a very short step away
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但你通常会离那些一旦得病
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from someone who is going to get hit very hard by this.
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就将面临致命风险的人很近。
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And I think we really need to be socially minded
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正因如此, 我认为我们应具有社会意识,
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and think this could be quite dramatic in terms of change of behavior,
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这将导致我们的行为模式 产生重大变化,
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but it needs to be
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但为了减少
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to reduce the impact that we're potentially facing.
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我们可能面临的负面影响, 这些是必须要做到的。
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[Question 4: How far apart should people stay from each other?]
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【问题4:我们该和他人保持多远的距离?】
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I think it's hard to pin down exactly,
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要想说出一个具体数字 是很困难的,
但我认为大家应记住, 目前并没有足够证据表明
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but I think one thing to bear in mind is that there's not so much evidence
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这种包含病毒的气溶胶 能传播很远的距离——
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that this is a kind of aerosol and it goes really far --
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它理应只能在很短的距离内传播。
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it's reasonably short distances.
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02:23
I don't think it's the case
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我并不认为
你坐在离另一人几米远的地方
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that you're sitting a few meters away from someone
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02:28
and the virus is somehow going to get across.
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病毒还能穿过这么远的距离。
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It's in closer interactions,
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我们应该注意的是近距离接触,
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and it's why we're seeing so many transmission events
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这是那么多传染案例发生于
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occur in things like meals and really tight-knit groups.
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就餐场所和 人员密集的团体中的原因。
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Because if you imagine
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因为可以想像,
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that's where you can get a virus out and onto surfaces
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在那些地方病毒更容易到达我们
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and onto hands and onto faces,
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手和脸的表面,
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and it's really situations like that we've got to think more about.
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我们更应关注这些情况。
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[Question 5: What kind of protective measures
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【问题5:世界各国应落实
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should countries put in place?]
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哪些预防措施?】
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I think that's what people are trying to piece together,
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我认为大家应首先考虑那些
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first in terms of what works.
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被证实有效的措施。
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It's only really in the last sort of few weeks
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我们也是直到前几周
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we've got a sense that this thing can be controllable
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才意识到这种病毒在某种程度的
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with this extent of interventions,
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国家干预下是可控的,
但当然,并不是所有国家 都能做到中国所做的那些,
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but of course, not all countries can do what China have done,
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有些措施
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some of these measures
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incur a huge social, economic, psychological burden
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会对全国人民施加 巨大的社会,经济,
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on populations.
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和心理上的负担。
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And of course, there's the time limit.
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当然了, 还要考虑到时间限制。
中国仅花了 6 周 就控制住了病毒的传播,
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In China, they've had them in for six weeks,
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要做到这点是很难的,
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it's tough to maintain that,
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所以我们应进行权衡,
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so we need to think of these tradeoffs
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of all the things we can ask people to do,
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想想我们能让人民做些什么,
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what's going to have the most impact on actually reducing the burden.
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哪些措施能最大程度地减少 施加于人民身上的负担。
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[To learn more, visit: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention]
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【欲知更多,请访问: 疾病控制和预防咨询中心网站】
03:33
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