The bridge between suicide and life | Kevin Briggs

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翻译人员: YǐngRuì Xú 校对人员: Tian Ye
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I recently retired
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我最近刚退休,
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from the California Highway Patrol
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离开了加利福尼亚公路巡警局,
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after 23 years of service.
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我工作了23年的地方。
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The majority of those 23 years
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这23年里的大多数时间,
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was spent patrolling the southern end
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我都是在马林县的南部巡逻,
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of Marin County,
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我都是在马林县的南部巡逻,
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which includes the Golden Gate Bridge.
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其中包括金门大桥,
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The bridge is an iconic structure,
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这座桥是一个标志性建筑,
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known worldwide
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世界闻名,
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for its beautiful views of San Francisco,
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因为从桥上可以观赏旧金山与
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the Pacific Ocean, and its inspiring architecture.
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太平洋的美景,还有它予人灵感的建筑风格。
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Unfortunately, it is also a magnet for suicide,
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不幸的是,这座桥也吸引了自杀者,
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being one of the most utilized sites in the world.
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成为了全球自杀事件最多的地点之一。
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The Golden Gate Bridge opened in 1937.
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金门大桥开通于1937年,
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Joseph Strauss, chief engineer in charge of building the bridge,
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约瑟夫·施特劳斯是负责建造这座桥的总工程师,
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was quoted as saying,
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我引用他一句话,
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"The bridge is practically suicide-proof.
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“这座桥实际上有防自杀设计,
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Suicide from the bridge
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在这座桥上自杀
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is neither practical nor probable."
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既难以成功也不太可能发生。”
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But since its opening,
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但自从这座桥开放后,
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over 1,600 people have leapt to their death
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超过1,600 人从桥上
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from that bridge.
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纵身投入了死亡。
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Some believe that traveling
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某些人相信
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between the two towers
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经过这两座塔间
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will lead you to another dimension --
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会带你去另一个世界——
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this bridge has been romanticized as such —
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这座桥已经被浪漫成这样了——
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that the fall from that
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就是说从桥上坠落
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frees you from all your worries and grief,
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会让你免除所有的烦恼与悲痛,
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and the waters below
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而下面的水
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will cleanse your soul.
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会净化你的灵魂。
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But let me tell you what actually occurs
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但是,让我来告诉你
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when the bridge is used
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假如你尝试从金门大桥跳河自杀
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as a means of suicide.
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结果实际上是怎样的。
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After a free fall of four to five seconds,
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在四到五秒的自由落体后,
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the body strikes the water
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人的身体击中水面,
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at about 75 miles an hour.
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速度大约75英里(120公里)每小时。
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That impact shatters bones,
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这个冲击力能使骨头粉碎,
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some of which then puncture vital organs.
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一些碎片之后会刺穿重要器官。
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Most die on impact.
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大多数人当场死亡。
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Those that don't
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如果没有死,
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generally flail in the water helplessly,
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一般是在水中无助地扑腾,
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and then drown.
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然后淹死。
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I don't think that those who contemplate
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我认为那些考虑
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this method of suicide
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这种自杀方式的人
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realize how grisly a death that they will face.
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并未意识到他们的死法将会多么可怕。
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This is the cord.
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这是钢索。
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Except for around the two towers,
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除了在两座塔周围,
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there is 32 inches of steel
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桥边有32英寸(80厘米)的钢索,
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paralleling the bridge.
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平行于桥。
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This is where most folks stand
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大多数自杀者
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before taking their lives.
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在自杀前就站在这里。
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I can tell you from experience
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根据我的经验,我可以告诉你,
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that once the person is on that cord,
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一旦有人站在了钢索上,
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and at their darkest time,
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在他人生最黑暗的时刻,
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it is very difficult to bring them back.
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再让他回来是极为困难的。
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I took this photo last year
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我在去年拍了这张照片,
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as this young woman spoke to an officer
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当时这位年轻女子正和一位警官说话,
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contemplating her life.
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思索她的人生。
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I want to tell you very happily
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我要很高兴地告诉大家,
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that we were successful that day
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那天我们很成功地
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in getting her back over the rail.
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把她从护栏那边拉了回来。
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When I first began working on the bridge,
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当我刚开始在这座桥上工作时,
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we had no formal training.
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我们没有受过正式的训练,
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You struggled to funnel your way through these calls.
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我在这些呼叫中挣扎前进,
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This was not only a disservice
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这是帮倒忙,
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to those contemplating suicide,
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不仅是对那些想自杀的人,
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but to the officers as well.
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对警察也是伤害。
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We've come a long, long way since then.
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从那以后,我们走过了漫漫长路。
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Now, veteran officers and psychologists
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如今,经验丰富的老警官和心理学家们
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train new officers.
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对新警察进行训练。
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This is Jason Garber.
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这位是杰森·加博。
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I met Jason on July 22 of last year
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我遇到杰森是在去年6月22日,
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when I get received a call
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那时我接到一个电话,
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of a possible suicidal subject
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说可能是一个人要自杀,
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sitting on the cord near midspan.
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正坐在桥中段附近的钢索上。
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I responded, and when I arrived,
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我回应了,而当我到达时,
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I observed Jason
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我看到了杰森,
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speaking to a Golden Gate Bridge officer.
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他正和一位金门大桥的警官对话。
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Jason was just 32 years old
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杰森年仅32岁,
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and had flown out here from New Jersey.
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是从新泽西州乘飞机来的。
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As a matter of fact,
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事实上,
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he had flown out here on two other occasions
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他另外还来过两次,
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from New Jersey
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从新泽西飞来,
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to attempt suicide on this bridge.
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想在这座桥上自杀。
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After about an hour of speaking with Jason,
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在与杰森交谈了大约一个小时后,
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he asked us if we knew the story of Pandora's box.
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他问我们是否知道潘多拉之盒的故事。
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Recalling your Greek mythology,
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想一想希腊神话,
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Zeus created Pandora,
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宙斯创造了潘多拉,
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and sent her down to Earth with a box,
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然后将她降于人间,还有一个盒子,
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and told her, "Never, ever open that box."
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并告诉她:”永远不要打开这个盒子。“
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Well one day, curiosity got the better of Pandora,
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终于有一天,好奇心战胜了潘多拉,
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and she did open the box.
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她真的打开了盒子。
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Out flew plagues, sorrows,
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飞出了瘟疫、悲伤,
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and all sorts of evils against man.
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以及对人类有害的种种坏事。
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The only good thing in the box was hope.
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盒内唯一的好东西只有希望。
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Jason then asked us,
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然后杰森问我们,
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"What happens when you open the box
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“当你打开盒子,
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and hope isn't there?"
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却没有希望,会发生什么?”
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He paused a few moments,
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他停顿了一会儿,
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leaned to his right,
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向他的右方倒下,
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and was gone.
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不见了。
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This kind, intelligent young man from New Jersey
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这位来自新泽西的善良,聪明的年轻人
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had just committed suicide.
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就这样自杀了。
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I spoke with Jason's parents that evening,
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那天晚上我与杰森父母谈话,
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and I suppose that, when I was speaking with them,
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我感觉,我和他们谈话时,
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that I didn't sound as if I was doing very well,
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我的声音听起来好像是我状态不好,
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because that very next day,
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因为就在后一天,
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their family rabbi called to check on me.
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他们家的拉比打电话过来问我怎么样。
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Jason's parents had asked him to do so.
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杰森的父母要他打的电话。
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The collateral damage of suicide
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自杀带来的间接伤害
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affects so many people.
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影响着如此多的人。
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I pose these questions to you:
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我向你们提出这些问题:
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What would you do if your family member,
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如果你们的家人、朋友或爱人要自杀,
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friend or loved one was suicidal?
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你们会怎么办?
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What would you say?
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你们会说什么?
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Would you know what to say?
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你知道要说什么吗?
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In my experience, it's not just the talking that you do,
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据我的经验,要做的不仅仅是说,
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but the listening.
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而是听。
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Listen to understand.
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通过倾听去理解,
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Don't argue, blame,
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不要争辨、责备,
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or tell the person you know how they feel,
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或是告诉那个人你知道他的感受,
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because you probably don't.
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因为你很可能并不知道。
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By just being there,
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只要你在那里,
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you may just be the turning point that they need.
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你可能就是他们所需的那个转折点。
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If you think someone is suicidal,
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如果你认为有人想自杀,
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don't be afraid to confront them and ask the question.
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不要害怕面对他们,别怕提问题。
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One way of asking them the question is like this:
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提问的方法有许多,可以是这样:
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"Others in similar circumstances
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“别人处在类似的境况下,
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have thought about ending their life;
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会考虑结束自己的生命;
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have you had these thoughts?"
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你有这样想过吗?”
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Confronting the person head-on
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与这个人正面相对可能正好挽救了他的生命,
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may just save their life and be the turning point for them.
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从而成为了他的转折点。
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Some other signs to look for:
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有一些其他的迹象值得留意:
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hopelessness, believing that things are terrible
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绝望,认为一切都很可怕,
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and never going to get better;
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永远不会好转;
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helplessness, believing that there is nothing
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无助,认为没有任何办法
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that you can do about it;
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可以进行改变;
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recent social withdrawal;
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近来回避人际交往;
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and a loss of interest in life.
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以及对生活失去兴趣。
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I came up with this talk just a couple of days ago,
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就在几天前我有过一次谈话,
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and I received an email from a lady
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我收到一位女士的一封电子邮件,
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that I'd like to read you her letter.
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我想给大家读读她的信。
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She lost her son on January 19 of this year,
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她在今年1月19日失去了儿子,
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and she wrote this me this email
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然后她给我写了这封邮件,
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just a couple of days ago,
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就在几天前,
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and it's with her permission and blessing
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她给了我许可和祝福,
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that I read this to you.
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让我为大家读一下。
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"Hi, Kevin. I imagine you're at the TED Conference.
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“嗨,凯文。我猜想你在TED大会上了。
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That must be quite the experience to be there.
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能在那里想必是次难得的经历吧。
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I'm thinking I should go walk the bridge this weekend.
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我在想我应该这个周末去大桥上走一走。
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Just wanted to drop you a note.
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只是想给你留个言。
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Hope you get the word out to many people
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希望你能把话带给许多人,
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and they go home talking about it
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然后他们回家会把这事说给朋友们,
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to their friends who tell their friends, etc.
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朋友们也会讲给他们的朋友,等等。
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I'm still pretty numb,
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我还是感觉很木,
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but noticing more moments of really realizing
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而更多的时候会真正意识到
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Mike isn't coming home.
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麦克没有回家。
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Mike was driving from Petaluma to San Francisco
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麦克是从佩塔卢马开车到旧金山,
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to watch the 49ers game with his father
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来和父亲看49人队的比赛,
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on January 19.
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就在1月19日。
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He never made it there.
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他永远没有到达。
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I called Petaluma police
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我打电话给佩塔卢马警察局,
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and reported him missing that evening.
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报告麦克在那天晚上失踪了。
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The next morning,
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第二天早上,
两个警官来到了我家,
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two officers came to my home
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07:59
and reported that Mike's car was down at the bridge.
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说麦克的车掉在了桥下。
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A witness had observed him jumping off the bridge
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一名目击者看到他从桥上冲下去,
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at 1:58 p.m. the previous day.
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就在前一天下午1点58分。
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Thanks so much
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我非常感谢你
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for standing up for those
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一直在鼓励那些人,
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who may be only temporarily too weak
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他们可能只是一时软弱
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to stand for themselves.
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而自己无法承受。
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Who hasn't been low before
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谁没有消沉过?
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without suffering from a true mental illness?
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即使是没有遭受过真正的精神疾病?
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It shouldn't be so easy to end it.
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这么轻率地结束它实在是不应该。
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My prayers are with you for your fight.
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我为你和你的努力而祷告。
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The GGB, Golden Gate Bridge,
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金门大桥
本应是跨过
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is supposed to be a passage across
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我们美丽的旧金山湾,
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our beautiful bay,
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not a graveyard.
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而非跨过一片墓地。
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Good luck this week. Vicky."
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祝你这周好运。维姬。”
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I can't imagine the courage it takes for her
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我无法想象她这样的勇气,
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to go down to that bridge and walk the path
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就这样走过那座桥,
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that her son took that day,
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重走她儿子那天所走的路,
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and also the courage just to carry on.
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以及坚持下来的勇气。
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I'd like to introduce you to a man
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我想为大家介绍一个人,
我认为他代表了希望和勇气。
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I refer to as hope and courage.
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09:11
On March 11 of 2005,
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在2005年3月11日,
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I responded to a radio call of a possible
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我的无线电说桥上的人行道上有个人可能想自杀,
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suicidal subject on the bridge sidewalk
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我回应了。
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near the north tower.
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09:20
I rode my motorcycle down the sidewalk
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就在北塔附近,
我骑着我的摩托车沿着人行道过去,
09:23
and observed this man, Kevin Berthia,
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看到了这个人,凯文·贝希亚,
09:26
standing on the sidewalk.
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他正站在人行道上。
09:28
When he saw me, he immediately traversed
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当他看到我时,
09:32
that pedestrian rail,
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他立即翻过人行道护栏,
09:34
and stood on that small pipe
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站在塔周围的小钢管上。
09:35
which goes around the tower.
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站在塔周围的小钢管上。
09:38
For the next hour and a half,
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之后的一个半小时里,
09:40
I listened as Kevin spoke about
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我就在那里听凯文讲
09:43
his depression and hopelessness.
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他的抑郁和绝望。
09:46
Kevin decided on his own that day
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那一天凯文自己决定,
从护栏那边回来,
09:49
to come back over that rail
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09:50
and give life another chance.
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再给生命一次机会。
09:53
When Kevin came back over,
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当凯文回来时,
09:55
I congratulated him.
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我祝贺了他。
09:57
"This is a new beginning, a new life."
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“这是一个新的开始,新的生命。”
09:59
But I asked him, "What was it
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但我又问他:
“是什么让你回来,
10:03
that made you come back
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10:04
and give hope and life another chance?"
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并且再给希望和生命一次机会?”
10:07
And you know what he told me?
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你们知道他告诉了我什么?
10:10
He said, "You listened.
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他说:“你听了。
10:12
You let me speak, and you just listened."
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你让我说,你就是听。”
10:17
Shortly after this incident,
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这件事后不久,
10:19
I received a letter from Kevin's mother,
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我收到凯文母亲写来的一封信,
10:23
and I have that letter with me,
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我带来了这封信,
10:26
and I'd like to read it to you.
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我想给大家读一读。
10:28
"Dear Mr. Briggs,
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“亲爱的布里格斯先生,
10:31
Nothing will erase the events of March 11,
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什么都无法抹去3月11日的那件事,
10:33
but you are one of the reasons Kevin is still with us.
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而凯文仍在我们身边,你是原因之一。
10:37
I truly believe Kevin was crying out for help.
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我真的相信凯文是在呼喊求救。
10:41
He has been diagnosed with a mental illness
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他诊断患有精神疾病,
10:44
for which he has been properly medicated.
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一直在接受适当的药物治疗。
10:46
I adopted Kevin when he was only six months old,
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在凯文年仅六个月时,我收养了他,
10:50
completely unaware of any hereditary traits,
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我完全不知道他在遗传上的任何问题,
10:54
but, thank God, now we know.
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但感谢上帝,现在我们知道了。
10:58
Kevin is straight, as he says.
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凯文说自己是直男。
11:01
We truly thank God for you.
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我们真的为你而感谢上帝,
11:03
Sincerely indebted to you,
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真的感激不尽,
11:06
Narvella Berthia."
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娜弗拉·贝希亚。”
11:09
And on the bottom she writes,
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在信下面她写道,
11:11
"P.S. When I visited San Francisco General Hospital that evening,
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“又及:我那晚到旧金山综合医院时,
11:16
you were listed as the patient.
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你被登记为病人。
11:18
Boy, did I have to straighten that one out."
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天哪,我一定要提这事吗?”
11:23
Today, Kevin is a loving father
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今天,凯文是个慈爱的父亲,
11:27
and contributing member of society.
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对社会也在做出贡献。
他坦率地说起
11:30
He speaks openly
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11:31
about the events that day and his depression
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那天的事和他的抑郁症,
11:34
in the hopes that his story
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希望他的故事
11:36
will inspire others.
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能启发他人。
11:39
Suicide is not just something I've encountered on the job.
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自杀不仅是我工作中遇到的事情,
11:42
It's personal.
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在我的私人生活也有。
11:44
My grandfather committed suicide by poisoning.
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我的祖父服毒自杀。
11:48
That act, although ending his own pain,
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他这样做,虽然结束了他自己的痛苦,
11:52
robbed me from ever getting to know him.
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而连我认识他的机会也被夺走了。
11:57
This is what suicide does.
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这就是自杀的后果。
11:59
For most suicidal folks,
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对于大多数试图自杀者,
12:02
or those contemplating suicide,
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或考虑自杀的人,
12:04
they wouldn't think of hurting another person.
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他们不会想到会伤害到另一个人,
12:06
They just want their own pain to end.
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他们就是想结束自己的痛苦。
12:10
Typically, this is accomplished in just three ways:
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通常,只有三种方法可以实现:
12:14
sleep, drugs or alcohol, or death.
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睡觉,毒品或酒精,或是死亡。
在我的职业生涯中,
12:20
In my career, I've responded to
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我参与了数百起
12:22
and been involved in hundreds
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大桥附近的精神疾病和自杀报案。
12:25
of mental illness and suicide calls
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大桥附近的精神疾病和自杀报案。
12:27
around the bridge.
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12:29
Of those incidents I've been directly involved with,
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其中我直接参与的事件里,
12:33
I've only lost two,
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我只失去了两个,
12:35
but that's two too many.
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但两个实在太多了。
12:37
One was Jason.
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一个是杰森。
12:39
The other was a man I spoke to
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另外一个是名男子,
12:41
for about an hour.
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我和他谈了大约一个小时。
12:43
During that time, he shook my hand
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在那一小时里,
12:45
on three occasions.
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他三次与我握手。
12:48
On that final handshake,
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最后一次握手时,
12:50
he looked at me, and he said,
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他看着我说,
12:52
"Kevin, I'm sorry, but I have to go."
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“凯文,我很抱歉,我得走了。”
12:58
And he leapt.
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他一跃而下。
13:00
Horrible, absolutely horrible.
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太可怕了,真的太可怕了。
13:03
I do want to tell you, though,
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但我真的想告诉你们,
13:05
the vast majority of folks
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绝大多数
13:07
that we do get to contact on that bridge
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我们在桥上与之有过接触的人
13:11
do not commit suicide.
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都没有自杀。
13:14
Additionally, that very few
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另外,
13:17
who have jumped off the bridge and lived
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那些跳下桥并且幸存的极少数,
13:19
and can talk about it,
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那些能说起这件事的人,
13:21
that one to two percent,
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那百分之一、二的人,
其中多数人都说,
13:24
most of those folks have said
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13:25
that the second that they let go of that rail,
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他们放开护栏的一瞬间,
他们知道了自己犯下了一个错误,
13:29
they knew that they had made a mistake
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13:31
and they wanted to live.
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他们想活。
13:34
I tell people, the bridge not only connects
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我告诉人们,金门大桥连接的
13:39
Marin to San Francisco,
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不仅是马林县与旧金山,
13:41
but people together also.
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也连接着人与人之间。
13:44
That connection, or bridge that we make,
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这种连接,或者我们所建的这座桥,
13:48
is something that each and every one of us
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代表着我们每一个人应当
13:51
should strive to do.
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为之而努力的东西。
13:53
Suicide is preventable.
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自杀是可以避免的。
13:56
There is help. There is hope.
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有帮助,也有希望。
13:59
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢大家。
14:02
(Applause)
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