The bridge between suicide and life | Kevin Briggs

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Prevoditelj: Ivan Stamenković Recezent: Senzos Osijek
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I recently retired
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Nedavno sam umirovljen
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from the California Highway Patrol
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iz Kalifornijske Patrole Autoceste
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after 23 years of service.
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nakon 23 godine službe.
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The majority of those 23 years
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Većinu od te 23 godine službe
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was spent patrolling the southern end
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proveo sam patrolirajući južni kraj
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of Marin County,
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okruga Marin,
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which includes the Golden Gate Bridge.
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koji uključuje Golden Gate Bridge.
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The bridge is an iconic structure,
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Most je kultna struktura,
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known worldwide
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poznata širom svijeta
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for its beautiful views of San Francisco,
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zbog svojih predivnih pogleda na San Francisco,
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the Pacific Ocean, and its inspiring architecture.
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Tihi ocean, i zbog njegove nadahnjujuće arhitekture.
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Unfortunately, it is also a magnet for suicide,
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Na žalost, to je također i magnet za samoubojstva,
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being one of the most utilized sites in the world.
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te je jedna od najupotrebljavanijih lokacija na svijetu.
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The Golden Gate Bridge opened in 1937.
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Golden Gate Bridge otvorio se 1937.
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Joseph Strauss, chief engineer in charge of building the bridge,
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Joseph Strauss, glavni inžinjer zadužen za gradnju mosta
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was quoted as saying,
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citiran je kada je rekao,
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"The bridge is practically suicide-proof.
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"Most je praktički otporan na samoubojstva.
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Suicide from the bridge
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Samoubojstvo s mosta
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is neither practical nor probable."
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niti je praktično niti izvjesno."
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But since its opening,
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Ali od njegovog otvaranja,
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over 1,600 people have leapt to their death
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preko 1600 ljudi skočilo je u smrt
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from that bridge.
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s tog mosta.
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Some believe that traveling
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Neki vjeruju da će ih put
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between the two towers
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između dva tornja
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will lead you to another dimension --
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odvesti u drugu dimenziju --
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this bridge has been romanticized as such —
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tako su romantizirali most --
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that the fall from that
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da pad s toga
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frees you from all your worries and grief,
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vas oslobađa od svih vaših briga i tuge,
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and the waters below
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i vode ispod
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will cleanse your soul.
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će vam pročistiti dušu.
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But let me tell you what actually occurs
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Ali dozvolite da vam kažem što se zapravo događa
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when the bridge is used
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kada se most koristi
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as a means of suicide.
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kao sredstvo za samoubojstvo.
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After a free fall of four to five seconds,
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Nakon slobodnog pada od četiri do pet sekundi,
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the body strikes the water
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tijelo udara vodu
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at about 75 miles an hour.
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brzinom od 125 kilometara na sat.
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That impact shatters bones,
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Taj udarac drobi kosti,
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some of which then puncture vital organs.
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od kojih neke probijaju vitalne organe.
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Most die on impact.
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Većina umire pri udaru.
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Those that don't
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Oni koji ne umru
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generally flail in the water helplessly,
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većinom lamataju bespomoćno u vodi,
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and then drown.
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i zatim se utope.
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I don't think that those who contemplate
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Mislim da oni koji planiraju
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this method of suicide
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ovu metodu samoubojstva
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realize how grisly a death that they will face.
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ne shvaćaju kako je grozna smrt s kojom će se suočiti.
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This is the cord.
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Ovo je kabel.
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Except for around the two towers,
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Osim oko dva tornja,
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there is 32 inches of steel
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postoje 32 inča čelika
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paralleling the bridge.
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koji se nalaze usporedo s mostom.
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This is where most folks stand
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Ovdje većina ljudi stoji
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before taking their lives.
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prije nego si oduzmu život.
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I can tell you from experience
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Mogu vam reći iz iskustva
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that once the person is on that cord,
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da jednom kada je osoba na tom kablu,
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and at their darkest time,
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i nalazi se u svom najmračnijem trenutku,
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it is very difficult to bring them back.
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vrlo je teško vratiti ih.
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I took this photo last year
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Napravio sam ovu fotografiju prošle godine
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as this young woman spoke to an officer
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dok je ova mlada žena razgovarala s policajcem
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contemplating her life.
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razmišljajući o svom životu.
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I want to tell you very happily
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Želim vam vrlo sretno reći
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that we were successful that day
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da smo bili uspješni taj dan
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in getting her back over the rail.
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i vratili smo ju preko ograde.
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When I first began working on the bridge,
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Kada sam započeo s poslom na mostu,
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we had no formal training.
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nismo imali nikakav trening.
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You struggled to funnel your way through these calls.
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Borili ste se da se probijete kroz te pozive.
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This was not only a disservice
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Ovo nije samo bila loša usluga
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to those contemplating suicide,
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onima koji pomišljaju na samoubojstvo,
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but to the officers as well.
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već i policajcima.
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We've come a long, long way since then.
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Jako, jako puno smo napredovali od tada.
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Now, veteran officers and psychologists
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Sada, stariji policajci i psiholozi
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train new officers.
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treniraju nove policajce.
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This is Jason Garber.
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Ovo je Jason Garber.
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I met Jason on July 22 of last year
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Upoznao sam Jasona 22. srpnja prošle godine
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when I get received a call
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kada sam primio poziv
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of a possible suicidal subject
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o mogućem suicidalnom subjektu
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sitting on the cord near midspan.
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kako sjedi na kablu u blizini sredine.
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I responded, and when I arrived,
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Odgovorio sam, i kada sam stigao
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I observed Jason
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promotrio sam Jasona
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speaking to a Golden Gate Bridge officer.
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dok je razgovarao sa policajcem sa Golden Gate Bridgea.
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Jason was just 32 years old
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Jason je imao samo 32 godine
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and had flown out here from New Jersey.
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i doletio je ovamo iz New Jerseya.
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As a matter of fact,
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Zapravo,
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he had flown out here on two other occasions
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on je doletio ovdje već dva puta prije
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from New Jersey
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iz New Jerseya,
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to attempt suicide on this bridge.
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kako bi se pokušao ubiti na ovom mostu.
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After about an hour of speaking with Jason,
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Nakon otprilike sat vremena razgovora sa Jasonom,
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he asked us if we knew the story of Pandora's box.
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pitao nas je znamo li priču Pandorine kutije.
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Recalling your Greek mythology,
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Ako se prisjetite Grčke mitologije,
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Zeus created Pandora,
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Zeus je stvorio Pandoru,
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and sent her down to Earth with a box,
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i poslao ju na Zemlju s kutijom,
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and told her, "Never, ever open that box."
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i rekao joj, "Nikad, ali nikad ne otvaraj tu kutiju."
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Well one day, curiosity got the better of Pandora,
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Jednoga dana znatiželja je prevladala Pandoru,
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and she did open the box.
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i ona je otvorila ovu kutiju.
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Out flew plagues, sorrows,
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Iz kutije su izletjele kuge, tuga,
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and all sorts of evils against man.
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i sve vrste zla koje su bile protiv čovjeka.
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The only good thing in the box was hope.
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Jedina dobra stvar u kutiji bila je nada.
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Jason then asked us,
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Onda nas je Jason zapitao,
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"What happens when you open the box
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"Što se dogodi kada otvorite kutiju
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and hope isn't there?"
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i nada nije ondje?"
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He paused a few moments,
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Zastao je na par trenutaka,
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leaned to his right,
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nagnuo se udesno,
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and was gone.
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i nije ga bilo.
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This kind, intelligent young man from New Jersey
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Ovaj ljubazni, inteligentni mladić iz New Jerseya
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had just committed suicide.
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je upravo počinio samoubojstvo.
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I spoke with Jason's parents that evening,
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Te večeri razgovarao sam s Jasonovim roditeljima,
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and I suppose that, when I was speaking with them,
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i pretpostavljam da dok sam razgovarao s njima
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that I didn't sound as if I was doing very well,
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da nisam baš zvučao najbolje,
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because that very next day,
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jer već sljedećeg dana,
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their family rabbi called to check on me.
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nazvao me obiteljski rabin da provjeri kako sam.
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Jason's parents had asked him to do so.
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Jasonovi roditelji su ga zamolili da to učini.
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The collateral damage of suicide
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Kolateralna šteta samoubojstva
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affects so many people.
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škodi tako puno ljudi.
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I pose these questions to you:
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Postavljam vam ova pitanja:
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What would you do if your family member,
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Što bi ste učinili da je član vaše obitelji,
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friend or loved one was suicidal?
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prijatelj ili voljena osoba sklona samoubojstvu?
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What would you say?
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Što bi ste rekli?
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Would you know what to say?
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Bi ste li znali što reći?
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In my experience, it's not just the talking that you do,
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Prema mom iskustvu, nije važno samo što govorite,
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but the listening.
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već i slušanje.
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Listen to understand.
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Slušajte kako biste razumjeli.
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Don't argue, blame,
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Ne svađajte se, ne krivite,
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or tell the person you know how they feel,
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ili govorite toj osobi da znate kako se osjeća,
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because you probably don't.
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jer vjerojatno ne znate.
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By just being there,
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Samo što ste tamo
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you may just be the turning point that they need.
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bi mogla biti ta stvar koja im je trebala.
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If you think someone is suicidal,
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Ako mislite da je netko sklon samoubojstvu,
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don't be afraid to confront them and ask the question.
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nemojte se bojati suočiti s njima i postaviti pitanja.
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One way of asking them the question is like this:
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Jedan način na koji možete postaviti pitanje je ovaj:
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"Others in similar circumstances
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"Drugi su u sličnim okolnostima
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have thought about ending their life;
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razmišljali da svrše svoj život:
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have you had these thoughts?"
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jesi li ti imao te pomisli?"
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Confronting the person head-on
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Direktno suočavanje s tom osobom
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may just save their life and be the turning point for them.
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im možda spasi život i možda bude točka nakon koje se sve mijenja
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Some other signs to look for:
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Neki drugi znaci koje možete tražiti:
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hopelessness, believing that things are terrible
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beznađe, vjerovanje da su stvari užasne
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and never going to get better;
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i da se nikad neće popraviti;
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helplessness, believing that there is nothing
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bespomoćnost, vjerovanje da ne postoji ništa
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that you can do about it;
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što se može oko toga učiniti;
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recent social withdrawal;
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nedavno povlačenje iz društva;
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and a loss of interest in life.
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i gubitak interesa za životom.
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I came up with this talk just a couple of days ago,
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Smislio sam ovaj govor prije nekoliko dana,
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and I received an email from a lady
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i primio sam mail od žene
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that I'd like to read you her letter.
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koji bih vam volio pročitati.
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She lost her son on January 19 of this year,
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Izgubila je sina 19. veljače ove godine
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and she wrote this me this email
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i napisala mi je ovaj mail
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just a couple of days ago,
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prije nekoliko dana,
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and it's with her permission and blessing
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i s njenim dopuštenjem i blagoslovom
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that I read this to you.
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vam ovo čitam.
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"Hi, Kevin. I imagine you're at the TED Conference.
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"Zdravo Kevin. Vjerujem da si na TED konferenciji.
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That must be quite the experience to be there.
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Sigurno je lijepo iskustvo biti tamo.
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I'm thinking I should go walk the bridge this weekend.
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Mislim da ću se ovog vikenda prošetati po mostu.
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Just wanted to drop you a note.
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Samo sam ti htjela dati poruku.
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Hope you get the word out to many people
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Nadam se da ćeš proširiti priču mnogim ljudima
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and they go home talking about it
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i da će otići kući pričajući o tome
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to their friends who tell their friends, etc.
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svojim prijateljima koji će reći svojim prijateljima, itd.
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I'm still pretty numb,
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Još uvijek sam utrnula,
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but noticing more moments of really realizing
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ali primjećujem sve više trenutaka kada zaista shvaćam
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Mike isn't coming home.
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da se Mike ne vraća kući.
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Mike was driving from Petaluma to San Francisco
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Mike se vozio iz Petalume u San Francisco
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to watch the 49ers game with his father
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kako bi gledao utakmicu 49ersa sa svojim ocem
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on January 19.
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19. veljače.
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He never made it there.
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Nikad nije došao tamo.
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I called Petaluma police
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Nazvala sam policiju iz Petalume
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and reported him missing that evening.
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i prijavila njegov nestanak te večeri.
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The next morning,
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Sljedećeg jutra,
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two officers came to my home
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dva policajca došla su kod mene kući
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and reported that Mike's car was down at the bridge.
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i prijavila da je Mikeov auto kod mosta.
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A witness had observed him jumping off the bridge
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Svjedok ga je vidio kako skače sa mosta
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at 1:58 p.m. the previous day.
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u 13:58 prethodnog dana.
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Thanks so much
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Hvala ti puno
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for standing up for those
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što si ustao za one
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who may be only temporarily too weak
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koji su možda samo privremeno preslabi
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to stand for themselves.
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da ustani za sebe.
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Who hasn't been low before
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Tko nije bio zaista nisko prije
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without suffering from a true mental illness?
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a da nije patio od prave mentalne bolesti?
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It shouldn't be so easy to end it.
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Ne bi smjelo biti tako lako završiti ga.
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My prayers are with you for your fight.
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Moje molitve su uz tebe u tvojoj borbi.
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The GGB, Golden Gate Bridge,
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GGB, Golden Gate Bridge,
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is supposed to be a passage across
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trebao bi biti prijelaz preko
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our beautiful bay,
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našeg predivnog zaljeva,
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not a graveyard.
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ne groblje.
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Good luck this week. Vicky."
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Sretno ovaj tjedan. Vicky."
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I can't imagine the courage it takes for her
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Ne mogu zamisliti hraborst koja joj je trebala
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to go down to that bridge and walk the path
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da se prošeta mostom i prođe putem
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that her son took that day,
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koji je prošao njen sin toga dana,
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and also the courage just to carry on.
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isto tako i hrabrost da samo nastavi.
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I'd like to introduce you to a man
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Volio bih vas upoznati sa čovjekom
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I refer to as hope and courage.
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kojeg zovem nadom i hrabrošću.
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On March 11 of 2005,
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11. Ožujka 2005. godine
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I responded to a radio call of a possible
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odgovorio sam na radio poziv mogućeg
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suicidal subject on the bridge sidewalk
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sucidalnog subjekta na pločniku mosta
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near the north tower.
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blizu sjevernog tornja.
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I rode my motorcycle down the sidewalk
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Vozio sam se svojim motociklom pločnikom
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and observed this man, Kevin Berthia,
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i vidio ovog čovjeka, Kevina Berthiu,
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standing on the sidewalk.
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kako stoji na pločniku.
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When he saw me, he immediately traversed
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Kada me vidio, odmah je prešao
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that pedestrian rail,
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tu pješačku ogradu
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and stood on that small pipe
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i stao na malu cijev
09:35
which goes around the tower.
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koja ide oko tornja.
09:38
For the next hour and a half,
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Sljedećih sat i pol,
09:40
I listened as Kevin spoke about
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slušao sam kako Kevin priča o
09:43
his depression and hopelessness.
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svojoj depresiji i beznađu.
09:46
Kevin decided on his own that day
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Kevin je sam odlučio toga dana
09:49
to come back over that rail
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vratiti se preko ograde
09:50
and give life another chance.
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i dati životu drugu priliku.
09:53
When Kevin came back over,
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Kada se Kevin vratio,
09:55
I congratulated him.
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čestitao sam mu.
09:57
"This is a new beginning, a new life."
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"Ovo je novi početak, novi život."
09:59
But I asked him, "What was it
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Ali pitao sam ga: "Što je bilo to
10:03
that made you come back
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što te nagnalo da se vratiš
10:04
and give hope and life another chance?"
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i daš nadi i životu drugu priliku?"
10:07
And you know what he told me?
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I znate što mi je rekao?
10:10
He said, "You listened.
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Rekao je, "Vi ste slušali.
10:12
You let me speak, and you just listened."
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Pustili ste me da govorim, i samo ste slušali."
10:17
Shortly after this incident,
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Kratko nakon ovog incidenta,
10:19
I received a letter from Kevin's mother,
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primio sam pismo od Kevinove majke,
10:23
and I have that letter with me,
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i imam to pismo tu sa sobom,
10:26
and I'd like to read it to you.
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i volio bih vam ga pročitati.
10:28
"Dear Mr. Briggs,
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"Dragi gospodine Briggs.
10:31
Nothing will erase the events of March 11,
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Ništa neće izbrisati događaje od 11. ožujka,
10:33
but you are one of the reasons Kevin is still with us.
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ali vi ste jedan od razloga što je Kevin još uvijek s nama.
10:37
I truly believe Kevin was crying out for help.
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Čvrsto vjerujem da je Kevin vapio za pomoći.
10:41
He has been diagnosed with a mental illness
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Dijagnosticirana mu je mentalna bolest
10:44
for which he has been properly medicated.
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za koju dobiva ispravne lijekove.
10:46
I adopted Kevin when he was only six months old,
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Posvojila sam Kevina kada je imao samo šest mjeseci,
10:50
completely unaware of any hereditary traits,
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potpuno nesvjesna bilo kakvih nasljednih osobina,
10:54
but, thank God, now we know.
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ali hvala Bogu, sada znamo.
10:58
Kevin is straight, as he says.
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Kevin je ispravan, kako on kaže.
11:01
We truly thank God for you.
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Uistinu smo zahvalni Bogu zbog vas.
11:03
Sincerely indebted to you,
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Iskreno u vašem dugu,
11:06
Narvella Berthia."
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Narvella Berthia."
11:09
And on the bottom she writes,
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I na dnu je napisala:
11:11
"P.S. When I visited San Francisco General Hospital that evening,
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"P.S. Kada sam posjetila Glavnu bolnicu u San Franciscu te večeri,
11:16
you were listed as the patient.
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vi ste bili navedeni kao pacijent.
11:18
Boy, did I have to straighten that one out."
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Kako sam samo imala problema dok sam to riješila."
11:23
Today, Kevin is a loving father
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Danas, Kevin je otac pun ljubavi
11:27
and contributing member of society.
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i član društva koji doprinosi.
11:30
He speaks openly
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Govori otvoreno
11:31
about the events that day and his depression
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o događajima toga dana i svojoj depresiji
11:34
in the hopes that his story
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u nadi da će njegova priča
11:36
will inspire others.
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inspirirati druge.
11:39
Suicide is not just something I've encountered on the job.
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Samoubojstvo nije samo nešto s čime sam se susreo na poslu.
11:42
It's personal.
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Osobno je.
11:44
My grandfather committed suicide by poisoning.
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Moj djed počinio je samoubojstvo trovanjem.
11:48
That act, although ending his own pain,
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Taj čin, iako je prekinuo njegovu patnju,
11:52
robbed me from ever getting to know him.
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meni je ukrao priliku da ga upoznam.
11:57
This is what suicide does.
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To je ono što samoubojstvo čini.
11:59
For most suicidal folks,
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Za većinu ljudi koja pomišlja na samoubojstvo
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or those contemplating suicide,
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ili oni koji planiraju to,
12:04
they wouldn't think of hurting another person.
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ne bi pomislili nauditi drugoj osobi.
12:06
They just want their own pain to end.
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Žele samo da njihova bol završi.
12:10
Typically, this is accomplished in just three ways:
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Najčešće, ovo se postiže na samo tri načina:
12:14
sleep, drugs or alcohol, or death.
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san, droga ili alkohol ili smrt.
12:20
In my career, I've responded to
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U mojoj karijeri odgovorio sam na
12:22
and been involved in hundreds
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i bio uključen u stotine
12:25
of mental illness and suicide calls
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poziva vezanih uz mentalnu bolest i samoubilačke pozive
12:27
around the bridge.
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oko mosta.
12:29
Of those incidents I've been directly involved with,
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Od tih slučajeva u kojima sam sudjelovao,
12:33
I've only lost two,
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izgubio sam samo dva,
12:35
but that's two too many.
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ali to je dva previše.
12:37
One was Jason.
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Jedan je bio Jason.
12:39
The other was a man I spoke to
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Drugi je bio čovjek s kojim sam razgovarao
12:41
for about an hour.
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otprilike sat vremena.
12:43
During that time, he shook my hand
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Za to vrijeme, pružio mi je ruku
12:45
on three occasions.
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tri puta.
12:48
On that final handshake,
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Pri tom zadnjem rukovanju,
12:50
he looked at me, and he said,
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pogledao me i rekao mi,
12:52
"Kevin, I'm sorry, but I have to go."
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"Kevine, žao mi je, ali ja moram ići."
12:58
And he leapt.
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I skočio je.
13:00
Horrible, absolutely horrible.
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Užasno je, apsolutno užasno.
13:03
I do want to tell you, though,
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Ali želim vam reći, da ipak
13:05
the vast majority of folks
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većina ljudi
13:07
that we do get to contact on that bridge
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koje dospijemo kontaktirati na tom mostu
13:11
do not commit suicide.
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ne počine samoubojstvo.
13:14
Additionally, that very few
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I kao dodatak, onaj mali broj
13:17
who have jumped off the bridge and lived
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onih koji su skočili s mosta i preživjeli
13:19
and can talk about it,
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i mogu o tome pričati
13:21
that one to two percent,
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tih jedan do dva posto,
13:24
most of those folks have said
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većina tih ljudi je rekla
13:25
that the second that they let go of that rail,
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da su u trenutku kada su pustili tu ogradu
13:29
they knew that they had made a mistake
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znali da su učinili pogrešku
13:31
and they wanted to live.
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i da žele živjeti.
13:34
I tell people, the bridge not only connects
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Kažem ljudima, most ne povezuje samo
13:39
Marin to San Francisco,
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Marin i San Francisco,
13:41
but people together also.
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već i ljude također.
13:44
That connection, or bridge that we make,
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Ta poveznica, ili most koji radimo,
13:48
is something that each and every one of us
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je nešto čemu svatko od nas
13:51
should strive to do.
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treba težiti.
13:53
Suicide is preventable.
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Samoubojstvo se može spriječiti.
13:56
There is help. There is hope.
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Ima pomoći. Ima nade.
13:59
Thank you very much.
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Hvala vam puno.
14:02
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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