Isabel Allende: How to live passionately—no matter your age | TED

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Hi, kids.

Zdravo, deco.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

I'm 71.

Imam 71 godinu.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

My husband is 76.

Moj muž ima 76 godina.

My parents are in their late 90s,

Moji roditelji su u kasnim 90-im,

and Olivia, the dog, is 16.

a Olivija, pas, ima 16 godina.

So let's talk about aging.

Hajde da pričamo o starenju.

Dozvolite da vam ispričam kako se osećam

Let me tell you how I feel

when I see my wrinkles in the mirror

kada vidim svoje bore u ogledalu

and I realize that some parts of me have dropped

i shvatim da su se neki delovi mene opustili

and I can't find them down there.

i ne mogu ih naći tamo dole.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Mary Oliver says in one of her poems,

Meri Oliver kaže u jednoj od svojih pesama:

"Tell me, what is it that you plan to do

"Reci mi, šta je to što planiraš da uradiš

with your one wild and precious life?"

sa svojim jedinim, fantastičnim i dragocenim životom?"

Me, I intend to live passionately.

Ja, ja nameravam da živim strastveno.

When do we start aging?

Kada počinjemo da starimo?

Society decides when we are old,

Društvo određuje kada smo stari,

usually around 65, when we get Medicare,

obično oko 65, kada dobijemo staračku zdravstvenu zaštitu,

but we really start aging at birth.

ali mi zapravo počinjemo da starimo od rođenja.

We are aging right now,

Mi starimo upravo sada,

and we all experience it differently.

i svi mi to doživljavamo drugačije.

We all feel younger than our real age,

Svi mi se osećamo mlađim od naših stvarnih godina,

because the spirit never ages.

jer duh nikada ne stari.

I am still 17.

Još uvek imam 17 godina.

Sophia Loren. Look at her.

Sofija Loren. Pogledajte je.

She says that everything you see

Ona kaže da sve što vidite

she owes to spaghetti.

duguje špagetama.

I tried it and gained 10 pounds

Pokušala sam i dobila 5 kila

in the wrong places.

na pogrešnim mestima.

But attitude, aging is also attitude and health.

Ali stav, starenje je takođe stav i zdravlje.

But my real mentor in this journey of aging

Ali moj pravi mentor na ovom putu starenja

is Olga Murray.

je Olga Marej.

This California girl at 60

Ova devojka iz Kalifornije je u 60.

started working in Nepal to save young girls

počela da radi u Nepalu da bi spasila mlade devojke

from domestic bondage.

od kućnog ropstva.

At 88, she has saved 12,000 girls,

U 88, spasila je 12 000 devojaka,

and she has changed the culture in the country.

i promenila je kulturu u toj zemlji.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Now it is illegal for fathers

Sada je protiv zakona da očevi

to sell their daughters into servitude.

prodaju svoje ćerke u ropstvo.

She has also founded orphanages

Takođe je osnovala sirotišta

and nutritional clinics.

i nutricionističke klinike.

She is always happy

Uvek je srećna

and eternally young.

i večno mlada.

What have I lost in the last decades?

Šta sam izgubila proteklih decenija?

People, of course,

Ljude, naravno,

places, and the boundless energy of my youth,

mesta, i beskrajnu energiju moje mladosti,

and I'm beginning to lose independence,

i počinjem da gubim nezavisnost,

and that scares me.

i to me plaši.

Ram Dass says that dependency hurts,

Rem Das kaže da zavisnost boli,

but if you accept it, there is less suffering.

ali ako je prihvatite, onda manje patite.

After a very bad stroke,

Nakon veoma teškog infarkta,

his ageless soul watches the changes

njegova neostarela duša posmatra promene

in the body with tenderness,

u telu sa nežnošću,

and he is grateful to the people who help him.

i zahvalan je ljudima koji mu pomažu.

What have I gained?

Šta sam dobila?

Freedom: I don't have to prove anything anymore.

Slobodu: ne moram više ništa da dokazujem.

I'm not stuck in the idea of who I was,

Nisam zarobljena u ideji onoga što sam bila,

who I want to be,

onoga što želim da budem,

or what other people expect me to be.

ili šta drugi ljudi očekuju od mene da budem.

I don't have to please men anymore,

Ne moram više da udovoljavam muškarcima,

only animals.

samo životinjama.

I keep telling my superego to back off

Uporno govorim svom super egu da se povuče

and let me enjoy what I still have.

i da me pusti da uživam u onome što još imam.

My body may be falling apart,

Moje telo se možda raspada,

but my brain is not, yet.

ali moj mozak ne, još uvek.

I love my brain.

Volim svoj mozak.

I feel lighter.

Osećam se lakše.

I don't carry grudges, ambition, vanity,

Ne nosim sa sobom kivnost, ambiciju, sujetu,

none of the deadly sins that are not even

nijedan od smrtnih grehova koji čak

worth the trouble.

nisu ni vredni truda.

It's great to let go.

Divno je pustiti.

I should have started sooner.

Trebalo je da počnem ranije.

And I also feel softer

Takođe se osećam mekšom

because I'm not scared of being vulnerable.

jer se ne plašim da budem ranjiva.

I don't see it as weakness anymore.

Ne vidim to više kao slabost.

And I've gained spirituality.

I stekla sam duhovnost.

I'm aware that before,

Svesna sam da je ranije

death was in the neighborhood.

smrt bila u četvrti.

Now, it's next door, or in my house.

Sada, ona je vrata do mene, ili u mojoj kući.

I try to live mindfully

Trudim se da živim sabrano

and be present in the moment.

i da budem prisutna u sadašnjosti.

By the way, the Dalai Lama

Uzgred, Dalaj Lama

is someone who has aged beautifully,

je neko ko je prelepo ostario,

but who wants to be vegetarian and celibate?

ali ko želi da bude vegetarijanac i u celibatu?

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Meditation helps.

Meditacija pomaže.

(Video) Child: Ommm. Ommm. Ommm.

(Video) Dete: Ommm. Ommm. Ommm.

Isabel Allende: Ommm. Ommm. There it is.

Izabel Aljende: Ommm. Ommm. To je to.

And it's good to start early.

I dobro je početi rano.

You know, for a vain female like myself,

Znate, za sujetnu ženu kao što sam ja,

it's very hard to age in this culture.

veoma je teško stariti u ovoj kulturi.

Inside, I feel good, I feel charming, seductive, sexy.

Unutra, osećam se dobro, osećam se šarmantno, zavodljivo, seksi.

Nobody else sees that. (Laughter)

Niko drugi to ne vidi. (Smeh)

I'm invisible.

Nevidljiva sam.

I want to be the center of attention.

Želim da budem u centru pažnje.

I hate to be invisible.

Mrzim da budem nevidljiva.

(Laughter) (Applause)

(Smeh) (Aplauz)

This is Grace Dammann.

Ovo je Grejs Daman.

She has been in a wheelchair for six years

U kolicima je šest godina

after a terrible car accident.

nakon užasne saobraćajne nesreće.

She says that there is nothing more sensual

Ona kaže da ne postoji ništa senzualnije

than a hot shower,

od vrelog tuša,

that every drop of water

da je svaka kap vode

is a blessing to the senses.

blaženstvo za čula.

She doesn't see herself as disabled.

Ona sebe ne vidi kao invalida.

In her mind, she's still surfing in the ocean.

U svojoj glavi, ona još uvek surfuje po okeanu.

Ethel Seiderman, a feisty, beloved activist

Etel Sajderman, odvažna, voljena aktivistkinja,

in the place where I live in California.

u mestu gde ja živim u Kaliforniji.

She wears red patent shoes,

Ona nosi crvene lakovane cipele

and her mantra is that one scarf is nice

i njena mantra je da je jedan šal dobar

but two is better.

ali dva su bolja.

She has been a widow for nine years,

Udovica je devet godina,

but she's not looking for another mate.

ali ne traži drugog partnera.

She says that there is only a limited number

Kaže da postoji ograničen broj

of ways you can screw —

načina na koje možeš da se krešeš -

well, she says it in another way —

dobro, ona to kaže na drugi način -

and she has tried them all.

i probala ih je sve.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

I, on the other hand,

Ja, sa druge strane,

I still have erotic fantasies with Antonio Banderas —

još uvek imam erotske fantazije sa Antoniom Banderasom -

(Laughter) —

(Smeh) -

and my poor husband has to put up with it.

i moj siroti muž mora to da trpi.

So how can I stay passionate?

Dakle, kako mogu da ostanem strastvena?

I cannot will myself to be passionate at 71.

Ne mogu da nateram sebe da budem strastvena u 71. godini.

I have been training for some time,

Treniram neko vreme,

and when I feel flat and bored, I fake it.

a kad se osećam bezvoljno i smoreno, pretvaram se.

Attitude, attitude.

Stav, stav.

How do I train? I train by saying yes

Kako treniram? Treniram govoreći da

to whatever comes my way:

svemu što mi se nađe na putu:

drama, comedy, tragedy,

drami, komediji, tragediji,

love, death, losses.

ljubavi, smrti, gubicima.

Yes to life.

Da životu.

And I train by trying to stay in love.

I treniram pokušavajući da ostanem zaljubljena.

It doesn't always work,

Ne funkcioniše uvek,

but you cannot blame me for trying.

ali ne možete me kriviti što pokušavam.

And, on a final note,

I, kao konačna napomena,

retirement in Spanish is jubilación.

penzionisanje je na španskom jubilación.

Jubilation. Celebration.

Likovanje. Slavlje.

We have paid our dues.

Otplatili smo svoje dugove.

We have contributed to society.

Dali smo doprinos društvu.

Now it's our time, and it's a great time.

Sad je naše vreme, i to je sjajno vreme.

Unless you are ill or very poor,

Osim ukoliko ste bolesni ili veoma siromašni,

you have choices.

imate izbora.

I have chosen to stay passionate,

Ja sam odabrala da ostanem strastvena,

engaged with an open heart.

angažovana sa otvorenim srcem.

I am working on it every day.

Radim na tome svakoga dana.

Want to join me?

Želite li da mi se pridružite?

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

June Cohen: So Isabel — IA: Thank you.

Džun Koen: Dakle, Izabel - IA: Hvala vam.

JC: First of all,

DžK: Pre svega,

I never like to presume to speak for the TED community,

Ne volim da tvrdim da govorim u ime TED zajednice,

but I would like to tell you that I have a feeling

ali bih želela da Vam kažem da imam osećaj

we can all agree that you are still charming,

da svi možemo da se složimo

da ste još uvek šarmantni, zavodljivi i seksi. Da?

seductive and sexy. Yes?

IA: Aww, thank you. (Applause)

IA: Aaa, hvala vam. (Aplauz)

JC: Hands down. IA: No, it's makeup.

DžK: Bez sumnje. IA: Ne, to je do šminke.

DžK: Da li bi bilo nelagodno

Moderator: Now, would it be awkward

if I asked you a follow-up question about your erotic fantasies?

da Vam postavim nadovezujuće pitanje o Vašim erotskim fantazijama?

IA: Oh, of course. About what?

IA: O, naravno. O čemu?

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Moderator: About your erotic fantasies. IA: With Antonio Banderas.

DžK: O Vašim erotskim fantazijama. IA: Sa Antoniom Banderasom.

Moderator: I was just wondering if you have anything more to share.

DžK: Samo sam se pitala da li imate još nešto da podelite,

IA: Well, one of them is that — (Laughter)

IA: Pa, jedna od njih je da - (Smeh)

One of them is that I place a naked Antonio Banderas

Jedna od njih je da stavljam golog Antonija Banderasa

on a Mexican tortilla,

na meksičku tortilju,

I slather him with guacamole and salsa,

posipam ga gvakamolijem i salsom,

I roll him up, and I eat him. (Laughter)

smotam ga i pojedem ga. (Smeh)

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)