Leather and meat without killing animals | Andras Forgacs

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Prevodilac: Mile Živković Lektor: Maja Budišin Lukin
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When my father and I started a company
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Kada smo moj otac i ja osnovali kompaniju
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to 3D print human tissues and organs,
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kako bi štampali trodimenzionalna tkiva i organe,
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some people initially thought we were a little crazy.
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u početku su neki ljudi mislili da smo pomalo ludi.
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But since then, much progress has been made,
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Ali od tada se dosta napredovalo,
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both in our lab and other labs around the world.
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kako u našoj, tako i u laboratorijama širom sveta.
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And given this, we started getting questions like,
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S obzirom na ovo, počeli smo da dobijamo pitanja poput:
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"If you can grow human body parts,
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"Ako možete uzgajati delove ljudskog tela,
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can you also grow animal products like meat and leather?"
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možete li da uzgajate životinjske proizvode poput mesa i kože?"
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When someone first suggested this to me,
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Kada mi je neko to prvi put predložio,
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quite frankly I thought they were a little crazy,
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mislio sam da je ta osoba pomalo luda,
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but what I soon came to realize
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ali sam uskoro shvatio
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was that this is not so crazy after all.
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da to zapravo i nije tako ludo.
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What's crazy is what we do today.
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Ovo što danas radimo je ludo.
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I'm convinced that in 30 years,
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Uveren sam da ćemo za 30 godina,
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when we look back on today
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kada se osvrnemo na ovo danas,
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and on how we raise and slaughter billions of animals
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kako uzgajamo i ubijamo milijarde životinja
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to make our hamburgers and our handbags,
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da bi pravili pljeskavice i tašne,
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we'll see this as being wasteful
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gledati na to kao da smo bili razmetljivi
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and indeed crazy.
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i zbilja ludi.
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Did you know that today we maintain
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Da li ste znali da danas održavamo
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a global herd of 60 billion animals
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globalno krdo od 60 milijardi životinja
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to provide our meat, dairy, eggs and leather goods?
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za naše meso, mlečne proizvode, jaja i proizvode od kože?
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And over the next few decades,
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A u sledećih nekoliko decenija,
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as the world's population expands to 10 billion,
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kad svetska populacija naraste do 10 milijardi,
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this will need to nearly double
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ovaj broj će se morati skoro duplirati,
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to 100 billion animals.
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na 100 milijardi životinja.
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But maintaining this herd
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Ali održavanje ovog krda
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takes a major toll on our planet.
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veliki je napor za našu planetu.
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Animals are not just raw materials.
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Životinje nisu samo sirov materijal.
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They're living beings,
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One su živa bića
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and already our livestock
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i naša stoka već čini
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is one of the largest users of land,
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jednog od najvećih korisnika zemlje,
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fresh water,
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sveže vode
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and one of the biggest producers of greenhouse gases
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i jednog od najvećih proizvođača gasova staklene bašte
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which drive climate change.
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koji dovode do promene klime.
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On top of this,
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Povrh svega ovoga,
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when you get so many animals so close together,
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kada spojite toliko životinja jednu blizu druge,
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it creates a breeding ground for disease
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to je plodno tle za zaraze
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and opportunities for harm and abuse.
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i stvara priliku za povrede i zlostavljanje.
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Clearly, we cannot continue on this path
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Jasno je da ne možemo nastaviti ovim putem
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which puts the environment, public health,
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kojim dovodimo u opasnost životnu sredinu,
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and food security at risk.
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zdravlje javnosti i bezbednost hrane.
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There is another way, because essentially,
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Postoji drugi način, jer zapravo
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animal products are just collections of tissues,
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životinjski proizvodi su samo skup tkiva
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and right now we breed and raise
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i mi trenutno uzgajamo
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highly complex animals
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veoma kompleksne životinje
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only to create products
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da bismo stvorili proizvode
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that are made of relatively simple tissues.
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sačinjene od relativno jednostavnih tkiva.
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What if, instead of starting with a complex
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Šta ako bismo, umesto započinjanja sa kompleksnom
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and sentient animal,
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i živom životinjom,
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we started with what the tissues are made of,
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započeli sa onim od čega su stvorena tkiva,
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the basic unit of life,
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osnovnom jedinicom života,
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the cell?
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ćelijom?
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This is biofabrication, where cells themselves
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Ovo je bioproizvodnja, gde se same ćelije
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can be used to grow biological products
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mogu koristiti za stvaranje bioloških proizvoda
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like tissues and organs.
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poput tkiva i organa.
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Already in medicine,
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Tehnike bioproizvodnje
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biofabrication techniques have been used
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su se već koristile u medicini
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to grow sophisticated body parts,
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kako bi se proizveli sofisticirani delovi tela
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like ears, windpipes, skin, blood vessels and bone,
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poput ušiju, dušnika, kože, krvnih sudova i kostiju,
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that have been successfully implanted into patients.
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koji su uspešno presađeni u pacijente.
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And beyond medicine, biofabrication can be
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I izvan medicine, bioproizvodnja može biti
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a humane, sustainable and scalable new industry.
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humana, održiva i skalabilna nova grana privrede.
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And we should begin by reimagining leather.
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Treba da počnemo sa novom vizijom kože.
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I emphasize leather because it is so widely used.
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Ističem kožu jer je toliko rasprostranjena.
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It is beautiful, and it has long been a part of our history.
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Prelepa je i dugo je deo naše istorije.
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Growing leather is also technically simpler
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Proizvodnja kože je takođe tehnički jednostavnija
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than growing other animal products like meat.
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od proizvodnje drugih životinjskih proizvoda poput mesa.
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It mainly uses one cell type,
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Uglavnom se koristi jedan tip ćelija
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and it is largely two-dimensional.
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i većinom je dvodimenzionalan.
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It is also less polarizing for consumers and regulators.
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Takođe manje polarizuje potrošače i regulatore.
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Until biofabrication is better understood,
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Dok ne bude postojalo bolje razumevanje bioproizvodnje,
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it is clear that, initially at least,
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jasno je da će, makar na početku
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more people would be willing to wear novel materials
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više ljudi biti voljno da nosi nove materijale
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than would be willing to eat novel foods,
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nego što će biti onih koji bi jeli novu hranu,
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no matter how delicious.
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koliko god bila ukusna.
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In this sense, leather is a gateway material,
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U ovom smislu, koža je polazni materijal,
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a beginning for the mainstream biofabrication industry.
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početak za komercijalnu industriju bioproizvodnje.
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If we can succeed here,
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Ako tu uspemo,
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it brings our other consumer bioproducts like meat
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to će približiti druge bioproizvode
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closer on the horizon.
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poput mesa.
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Now how do we do it?
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Kako to uraditi?
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To grow leather, we begin by taking cells
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Da bismo proizveli kožu, prvo uzimamo ćelije
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from an animal, through a simple biopsy.
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od životinja, kroz jednostavnu biopsiju.
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The animal could be a cow,
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Životinja može biti krava,
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lamb, or even something more exotic.
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jagnje ili čak nešto egzotičnije.
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This process does no harm,
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Procesom se ne oštećuje
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and Daisy the cow can live a happy life.
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i krava Šarulja može da nastavi da živi srećno.
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We then isolate the skin cells
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Onda izdvojimo ćelije kože
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and multiply them in a cell culture medium.
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i umnožavamo ih u sredini za kulturu ćelije.
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This takes millions of cells
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Ovo zahteva milione ćelija
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and expands them into billions.
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i umnožava ih na milijarde.
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And we then coax these cells to produce collagen,
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Onda privolimo ove ćelije da proizvode kolagen,
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as they would naturally.
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što bi radile prirodno.
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This collagen is the stuff between cells.
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Kolagen je materija između ćelija,
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It's natural connective tissue.
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prirodno vezivno tkivo.
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It's the extracellular matrix,
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To je vanćelijska matrica,
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but in leather, it's the main building block.
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ali kod kože je on glavni gradivni materijal.
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And what we next do is we take the cells and their collagen
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Onda uzimamo ćelije i njihov kolagen
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and we spread them out to form sheets,
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i širimo ih da bismo oformili listove
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and then we layer these thin sheets on top of one another,
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i onda slažemo ove tanke listove jedan na drugi
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like phyllo pastry, to form thicker sheets,
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kao lisnato testo, kako bi stvorili deblje listove
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which we then let mature.
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koje ostavljamo da sazru.
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And finally, we take this multilayered skin
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Konačno uzimamo ovu višeslojnu kožu
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and through a shorter and much less chemical tanning process,
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i kroz kraći proces štavljenja sa mnogo manje hemikalija,
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we create leather.
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stvaramo kožu.
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And so I'm very excited to show you,
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Veoma sam uzbuđen da vam ovo pokažem,
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for the first time,
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po prvi put,
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the first batch of our cultured leather,
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prvu turu naše veštačke kože,
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fresh from the lab.
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sveže iz laboratorije.
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This is real, genuine leather,
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Ovo je prava pravcata koža,
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without the animal sacrifice.
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bez žrtvovanja životinja.
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It can have all the characteristics of leather
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Može da ima sve karakteristike kože
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because it is made of the same cells,
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jer je napravljena od istih ćelija
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and better yet,
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i još bolje,
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there is no hair to remove,
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nema krzna za uklanjanje,
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no scars or insect's bites,
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nema ožiljaka ili ujeda insekata
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and no waste.
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i nema otpada.
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This leather can be grown in the shape of a wallet,
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Ova koža se može napraviti u obliku novčanika,
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a handbag or a car seat.
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torbe ili sedišta automobila.
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It is not limited to the irregular shape of a cow
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Nije ograničena na nepravilni oblik krave
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or an alligator.
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ili aligatora.
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And because we make this material,
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I zato što kožu stvaramo,
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we grow this leather from the ground up,
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gajimo je od samog početka,
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we can control its properties in very interesting ways.
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možemo da kontrolišemo njene osobine na veoma zanimljive načine.
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This piece of leather
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Ovaj komad kože
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is a mere seven tissue layers thick,
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je tanak samo sedam slojeva,
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and as you can see, it is nearly transparent.
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i kao što možete da vidite, skoro je providan.
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And this leather is 21 layers thick and quite opaque.
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A ovaj komad ima 21 sloj i prilično je neproziran.
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You don't have that kind of fine control
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Takvu vrstu fine kontrole
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with conventional leather.
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nemate sa tradicionalnom kožom.
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And we can tune this leather for other desirable qualities,
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I možemo da podešavamo ovu kožu sa drugim poželjnim osobinama
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like softness, breathability,
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poput mekoće, disanja,
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durability, elasticity and even things like pattern.
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izdržljivosti, elastičnosti i čak i stvarima poput šare.
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We can mimic nature,
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Možemo da imitiramo prirodu
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but in some ways also improve upon it.
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ali na neki način čak i da je poboljšamo.
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This type of leather can do what today's leather does,
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Ova vrsta kože može da uradi isto što i današnja
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but with imagination, probably much more.
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ali uz maštu, verovatno i mnogo više.
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What could the future of animal products look like?
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Kako bi mogla da izgleda budućnost životinjskih proizvoda?
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It need not look like this,
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Ne mora da izgleda ovako,
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which is actually the state of the art today.
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što je zapravo današnja najmodernija tehnologija.
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Rather, it could be much more like this.
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Mogla bi da izgleda više ovako.
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Already, we have been manufacturing with cell cultures
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Već hiljadama godina proizvodimo
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for thousands of years, beginning with products
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sa kulturama ćelija, počev od proizvoda
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like wine, beer and yogurt.
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poput vina, piva i jogurta.
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And speaking of food, our cultured food has evolved,
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Govoreći o hrani, naša hrana koju uzgajamo se razvila
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and today we prepare cultured food
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i danas pripremamo hranu
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in beautiful, sterile facilities like this.
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u predivnim sterilnim postrojenjima poput ovog.
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A brewery is essentially a bioreactor.
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Pivara je u suštini bioreaktor.
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It is where cell culture takes place.
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Tu se odvija kultura ćelija.
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Imagine that in this facility,
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Zamislite da u ovom postrojenju
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instead of brewing beer,
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umesto proizvodnje piva
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we were brewing leather
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pravimo kožu
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or meat.
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ili meso.
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Imagine touring this facility,
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Zamislite da prolazite kroz ovo postrojenje
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learning about how the leather or meat is cultured,
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i učite kako se stvara koža ili meso
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seeing the process from beginning to end,
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gledajući proces od početka do kraja,
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and even trying some.
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i čak probate nešto od toga.
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It's clean, open and educational,
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Čisto je, otvoreno i obrazovno,
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and this is in contrast to the hidden,
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nasuprot sakrivenim
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guarded and remote factories
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udaljenim fabrikama sa čuvarima
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where leather and meat is produced today.
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gde se danas proizvode koža i meso.
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Perhaps biofabrication
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Možda je bioproizvodnja
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is a natural evolution of manufacturing for mankind.
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prirodna evolucija proizvodnje za ljudsku rasu.
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It's environmentally responsible,
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Ekološki je odgovorna,
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efficient and humane.
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efikasna i humana.
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It allows us to be creative.
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Dozvoljava nam da budemo kreativni.
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We can design new materials, new products,
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Možemo da dizajniramo nove materijale, nove proizvode
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and new facilities.
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i nova postrojenja.
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We need to move past just killing animals
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Moramo da pređemo sa ubijanja životinja
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as a resource
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kao resursa
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to something more civilized and evolved.
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na nešto civilizovanije i naprednije.
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Perhaps we are ready for something
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Možda smo spremni za nešto
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literally and figuratively more cultured.
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što je bukvalno i metaforički kulturnije.
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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