Leather and meat without killing animals | Andras Forgacs

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譯者: Ron Chao 審譯者: YI LING LIN
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When my father and I started a company
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父親和我創立公司
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to 3D print human tissues and organs,
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從事3D列印人體組織和器官
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some people initially thought we were a little crazy.
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當初有些人覺得我們有點瘋狂
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But since then, much progress has been made,
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但進展今非昔比
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both in our lab and other labs around the world.
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不只在我們的實驗室,全球皆然
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And given this, we started getting questions like,
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因此有人開始問我們
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"If you can grow human body parts,
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「如果你們能製造人體部位
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can you also grow animal products like meat and leather?"
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能否製造動物產品?例如肉和皮革」
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When someone first suggested this to me,
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當我第一次聽到有人這麼提議
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quite frankly I thought they were a little crazy,
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老實說我覺得他們才有點瘋狂
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but what I soon came to realize
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但是我很快就明白
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was that this is not so crazy after all.
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畢竟這沒什麼瘋狂
00:49
What's crazy is what we do today.
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我們現行的做法才瘋狂
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I'm convinced that in 30 years,
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我確信30年以後
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when we look back on today
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回顧今天
00:56
and on how we raise and slaughter billions of animals
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我們飼養並屠宰數十億牲畜
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to make our hamburgers and our handbags,
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以製作漢堡和手提包
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we'll see this as being wasteful
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我們會明瞭這既浪費
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and indeed crazy.
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又很瘋狂
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Did you know that today we maintain
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你是否知道我們現在飼養了
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a global herd of 60 billion animals
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全球共600億牲畜
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to provide our meat, dairy, eggs and leather goods?
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提供我們所需的肉、乳、蛋、和皮製品?
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And over the next few decades,
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未來數十年
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as the world's population expands to 10 billion,
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世界人口將增至100億
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this will need to nearly double
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牲畜的需求數目幾乎將倍增
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to 100 billion animals.
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約1000億才足夠
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But maintaining this herd
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但是養這麼多牲畜
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takes a major toll on our planet.
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造成地球的沉重負擔
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Animals are not just raw materials.
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牲畜不僅是原料
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They're living beings,
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也是活生生之物
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and already our livestock
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我們的牲畜已經是
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is one of the largest users of land,
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土地最大的使用者之一
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fresh water,
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最大的淡水消耗者之一
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and one of the biggest producers of greenhouse gases
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最大的溫室氣體排放者之一
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which drive climate change.
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溫室氣體導致氣候變遷
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On top of this,
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除此之外
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when you get so many animals so close together,
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這麼多動物密集飼養
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it creates a breeding ground for disease
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會造成疾病的溫床
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and opportunities for harm and abuse.
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和動物被傷害和虐待的可能性
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Clearly, we cannot continue on this path
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顯然這條路難以為繼
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which puts the environment, public health,
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因為環境、公共衛生
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and food security at risk.
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食品安全都面臨風險
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There is another way, because essentially,
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但是有另一條路,因為基本上
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animal products are just collections of tissues,
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動物製品是由組織構成
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and right now we breed and raise
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我們現在飼養的
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highly complex animals
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是高度複雜的牲畜
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only to create products
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我們要的卻只是
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that are made of relatively simple tissues.
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他們身上相對簡單的組織
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What if, instead of starting with a complex
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我們與其著手於複雜
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and sentient animal,
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有知覺的動物
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we started with what the tissues are made of,
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不如著手於組織的成分
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the basic unit of life,
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也就是生命的基本單位
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the cell?
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細胞
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This is biofabrication, where cells themselves
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這是生物製造(biofabrication),利用細胞
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can be used to grow biological products
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培養生物產品
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like tissues and organs.
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例如組織和器官
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Already in medicine,
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醫學界已經
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biofabrication techniques have been used
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使用生物製造技術
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to grow sophisticated body parts,
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培養複雜的身體部位
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like ears, windpipes, skin, blood vessels and bone,
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例如耳朵、氣管、皮膚、血管、骨骼
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that have been successfully implanted into patients.
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都已成功地植入病人體內
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And beyond medicine, biofabrication can be
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醫學用途之外,生物製造也可以是
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a humane, sustainable and scalable new industry.
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人道、永續、容易調整規模的新工業
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And we should begin by reimagining leather.
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我們應該從改造皮革開始
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I emphasize leather because it is so widely used.
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我著重於皮革因為其使用廣泛
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It is beautiful, and it has long been a part of our history.
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它美麗又歷史悠久
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Growing leather is also technically simpler
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製造皮革的技術較簡單
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than growing other animal products like meat.
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不像製造肉那麼困難
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It mainly uses one cell type,
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皮革以一種細胞為主
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and it is largely two-dimensional.
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大體上是平面的構造
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It is also less polarizing for consumers and regulators.
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對於消費者和監管單位也較無爭議
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Until biofabrication is better understood,
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在更暸解生物製造之前
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it is clear that, initially at least,
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顯然,至少剛開始時
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more people would be willing to wear novel materials
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較多人會願意穿戴新奇的材質
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than would be willing to eat novel foods,
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較少人會願意吃新奇的食物
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no matter how delicious.
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無論有多好吃
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In this sense, leather is a gateway material,
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從這個角度,皮革是個途徑
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a beginning for the mainstream biofabrication industry.
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可以開創主流生物製造工業
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If we can succeed here,
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如果皮革成功了
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it brings our other consumer bioproducts like meat
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其他消費性生物製品,例如肉
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closer on the horizon.
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就有一線希望了
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Now how do we do it?
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我們是怎麼做到的?
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To grow leather, we begin by taking cells
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製造皮革首先要做簡單的切片
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from an animal, through a simple biopsy.
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取出動物的細胞
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The animal could be a cow,
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該動物可以是牛
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lamb, or even something more exotic.
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羊、甚至較奇特的動物
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This process does no harm,
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這個步驟不會傷害動物
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and Daisy the cow can live a happy life.
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牛小姐可以繼續快樂生活
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We then isolate the skin cells
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我們然後分離皮膚細胞
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and multiply them in a cell culture medium.
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以便在培養液裡繁殖
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This takes millions of cells
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數百萬的細胞
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and expands them into billions.
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繁殖到數十億
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And we then coax these cells to produce collagen,
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然後我們誘導細胞製造膠原蛋白
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as they would naturally.
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這是其天然功能
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This collagen is the stuff between cells.
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在細胞之間的膠原蛋白
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It's natural connective tissue.
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是天然的結締組織
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It's the extracellular matrix,
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是細胞外基質
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but in leather, it's the main building block.
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但在皮革裡是主要的成分
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And what we next do is we take the cells and their collagen
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下一步是萃取細胞及膠原蛋白
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and we spread them out to form sheets,
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將其鋪展成薄片
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and then we layer these thin sheets on top of one another,
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再把薄片堆疊起來
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like phyllo pastry, to form thicker sheets,
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形成較厚層,像酥皮糕點
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which we then let mature.
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然後待其成熟
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And finally, we take this multilayered skin
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最後這種多層的皮膚
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and through a shorter and much less chemical tanning process,
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再經過較短少的化學製革程序
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we create leather.
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皮革於焉而生
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And so I'm very excited to show you,
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我以激動的心情向各位展示
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for the first time,
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我們首次
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the first batch of our cultured leather,
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第一批培養出來的皮革
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fresh from the lab.
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實驗室剛剛出爐
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This is real, genuine leather,
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這是真的皮革
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without the animal sacrifice.
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沒有動物被殺害
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It can have all the characteristics of leather
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它能具有皮革全部的特性
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because it is made of the same cells,
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因為組成的細胞相同
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and better yet,
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但更勝一籌的是
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there is no hair to remove,
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不用除毛
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no scars or insect's bites,
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沒有疤痕或蟲咬
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and no waste.
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也不會有浪費
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This leather can be grown in the shape of a wallet,
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這種皮革能一體成型,長成皮夾
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a handbag or a car seat.
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手提包或汽車座位的形狀
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It is not limited to the irregular shape of a cow
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不限不規則的形狀像是牛皮
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or an alligator.
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或鱷魚的皮
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And because we make this material,
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因為這是我們製造的
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we grow this leather from the ground up,
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從頭開始培養的皮革
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we can control its properties in very interesting ways.
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我們可以控制其性質,很有趣
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This piece of leather
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這個皮革
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is a mere seven tissue layers thick,
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組織僅有七層
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and as you can see, it is nearly transparent.
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可以看得出幾乎是透明的
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And this leather is 21 layers thick and quite opaque.
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這個皮革是21層,相當不透明
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You don't have that kind of fine control
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這種細緻的操控
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with conventional leather.
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是普通的皮革所無
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And we can tune this leather for other desirable qualities,
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我們能調整其他想要的性質
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like softness, breathability,
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例如柔軟度、透氣度
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durability, elasticity and even things like pattern.
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耐久度、彈性、甚至花樣
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We can mimic nature,
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我們可以模仿自然
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but in some ways also improve upon it.
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但有些方面也能加以改進
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This type of leather can do what today's leather does,
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現有皮革的功能,這種皮革都有
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but with imagination, probably much more.
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但運用想像力,功能還可能更多
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What could the future of animal products look like?
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動物產品的未來如何?
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It need not look like this,
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不必像這個樣子
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which is actually the state of the art today.
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其實這已是目前最先進的
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Rather, it could be much more like this.
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但是更可以像這樣
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Already, we have been manufacturing with cell cultures
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我們已經把培養的細胞用於生產
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for thousands of years, beginning with products
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並有數千年歷史,最早的產品
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like wine, beer and yogurt.
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包括酒、啤酒、酸酪乳
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And speaking of food, our cultured food has evolved,
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說到食品,培養食品歷經演變
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and today we prepare cultured food
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現在的培養食品來自
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in beautiful, sterile facilities like this.
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這種美麗、殺菌過的廠房
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A brewery is essentially a bioreactor.
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啤酒廠基本上是生物反應器
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It is where cell culture takes place.
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細胞的培養在此進行
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Imagine that in this facility,
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試想在這個廠房
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instead of brewing beer,
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不是釀造啤酒
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we were brewing leather
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而是培養皮革
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or meat.
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或肉
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Imagine touring this facility,
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想想看參觀這個廠房
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learning about how the leather or meat is cultured,
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學習皮革和肉的培養
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seeing the process from beginning to end,
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觀察從頭到尾的製造程序
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and even trying some.
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甚至試吃試用
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It's clean, open and educational,
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清潔、開放、具教育意義
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and this is in contrast to the hidden,
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這截然不同於現在
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guarded and remote factories
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隱秘、門禁森嚴、偏遠的
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where leather and meat is produced today.
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皮革工廠和肉工廠
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Perhaps biofabrication
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或許生物製造
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is a natural evolution of manufacturing for mankind.
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是人類製造方式的自然演進
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It's environmentally responsible,
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它環保
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efficient and humane.
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有效率又人道
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It allows us to be creative.
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我們得以發揮創造力
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We can design new materials, new products,
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我們能設計新材質、新產品
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and new facilities.
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新廠房
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We need to move past just killing animals
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我們應該超越殺害動物
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as a resource
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不必為資源而殺生
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to something more civilized and evolved.
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應該轉向更文明與進步的方式
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Perhaps we are ready for something
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或許我們已準備迎接
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literally and figuratively more cultured.
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更多培養的、文明的產品
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Thank you.
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謝謝
08:44
(Applause)
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