Leather and meat without killing animals | Andras Forgacs

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翻译人员: Jing Peng 校对人员: Yuting Liu
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When my father and I started a company
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当父亲和我创立公司
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to 3D print human tissues and organs,
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从事3D打印人体组织和器官时
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some people initially thought we were a little crazy.
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有些人觉得我们有点疯狂
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But since then, much progress has been made,
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但进展已今非昔比
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both in our lab and other labs around the world.
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不只在我们的实验室 全球皆然
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And given this, we started getting questions like,
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因此有人开始问我们
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"If you can grow human body parts,
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“如果你们能制造人体部位
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can you also grow animal products like meat and leather?"
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能否制造动物产品?例如肉和皮革”
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When someone first suggested this to me,
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当我第一次听到有人这么提议
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quite frankly I thought they were a little crazy,
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老实说我觉得他们才有点疯狂
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but what I soon came to realize
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但是我很快就发现
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was that this is not so crazy after all.
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其实这并不疯狂
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What's crazy is what we do today.
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真正疯狂的是我们现在做的事情
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I'm convinced that in 30 years,
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我确信30年以后
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when we look back on today
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回顾今天
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and on how we raise and slaughter billions of animals
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我们如何饲养并屠宰数十亿牲畜
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to make our hamburgers and our handbags,
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以制作汉堡肉和手袋
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we'll see this as being wasteful
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我们会明白这既浪费
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and indeed crazy.
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又疯狂
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Did you know that today we maintain
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你是否知道我们现在饲养了
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a global herd of 60 billion animals
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全球共600亿牲畜
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to provide our meat, dairy, eggs and leather goods?
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提供我们所需的肉 奶制品 蛋 和皮具?
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And over the next few decades,
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在未来数十年
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as the world's population expands to 10 billion,
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当世界人口将增至100亿时
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this will need to nearly double
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这个数目将几乎倍增
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to 100 billion animals.
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到1000亿牲畜
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But maintaining this herd
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但是养这么多牲畜
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takes a major toll on our planet.
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会造成地球的沉重负担
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Animals are not just raw materials.
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牲畜不仅是原料
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They're living beings,
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也是生灵
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and already our livestock
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我们的牲畜已经是
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is one of the largest users of land,
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最大的土地使用以及
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fresh water,
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淡水消耗者之一
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and one of the biggest producers of greenhouse gases
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以及最大的温室气体排放者之一
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which drive climate change.
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导致气候变迁
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On top of this,
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除此之外
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when you get so many animals so close together,
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当这么多动物如此密集地饲养
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it creates a breeding ground for disease
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会变成疾病的温床
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and opportunities for harm and abuse.
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动物也容易被伤害和虐待
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Clearly, we cannot continue on this path
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显然这条路难以为继
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which puts the environment, public health,
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因为环境 公众健康
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and food security at risk.
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以及粮食安全都将面临风险
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There is another way, because essentially,
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但是有另一条路 因为基本上
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animal products are just collections of tissues,
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动物制品是由组织构成
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and right now we breed and raise
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我们现在饲养的
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highly complex animals
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高度复杂的牲畜
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only to create products
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我们需要的却只是
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that are made of relatively simple tissues.
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他们身上相对简单的组织
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What if, instead of starting with a complex
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如果我们与其着手于复杂
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and sentient animal,
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并有知觉的动物
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we started with what the tissues are made of,
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不如着手于组织的成分
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the basic unit of life,
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也就是生命的基本单位
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the cell?
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细胞会如何?
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This is biofabrication, where cells themselves
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这是生物制造(biofabrication) 利用细胞
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can be used to grow biological products
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培养生物产品
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like tissues and organs.
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例如组织和器官
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Already in medicine,
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医学界已经
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biofabrication techniques have been used
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使用生物制造技术
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to grow sophisticated body parts,
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去培养复杂的身体部位
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like ears, windpipes, skin, blood vessels and bone,
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例如耳朵 气管 皮肤 血管 骨骼
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that have been successfully implanted into patients.
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都已成功地植入了病人体内
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And beyond medicine, biofabrication can be
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医疗用途之外 生物制造也可以是
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a humane, sustainable and scalable new industry.
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人道 可持续 容易调整规模的新产业
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And we should begin by reimagining leather.
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我们应该从从新思考皮革开始
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I emphasize leather because it is so widely used.
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我着重于皮革因为其使用广泛
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It is beautiful, and it has long been a part of our history.
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它美丽且历史悠久
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Growing leather is also technically simpler
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制造皮革的技术相对较简单
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than growing other animal products like meat.
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不像制造肉那么困难
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It mainly uses one cell type,
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皮革以一种细胞为主
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and it is largely two-dimensional.
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大体上是平面的构造
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It is also less polarizing for consumers and regulators.
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对于消费者和监管单位也较无争议
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Until biofabrication is better understood,
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在更暸解生物制造之前
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it is clear that, initially at least,
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显然 至少刚开始时
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more people would be willing to wear novel materials
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较多人会愿意穿戴新奇的材料
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than would be willing to eat novel foods,
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较少人会愿意吃新奇的食物
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no matter how delicious.
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无论有多好吃
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In this sense, leather is a gateway material,
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从这个角度 皮革是个途径
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a beginning for the mainstream biofabrication industry.
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开创主流生物制造工业的起点
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If we can succeed here,
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如果皮革成功了
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it brings our other consumer bioproducts like meat
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将会为其他例如肉的生物消费品
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closer on the horizon.
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带来一线希望
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Now how do we do it?
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我们是怎么做到的?
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To grow leather, we begin by taking cells
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制造皮革首先要取出动物的细胞
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from an animal, through a simple biopsy.
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做简单的活检
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The animal could be a cow,
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动物可以是牛
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lamb, or even something more exotic.
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羊 甚至较奇特的动物
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This process does no harm,
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这个步骤不会伤害动物
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and Daisy the cow can live a happy life.
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牛小姐可以继续快乐生活
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We then isolate the skin cells
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我们然后分离皮肤细胞
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and multiply them in a cell culture medium.
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以便在培养液里繁殖
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This takes millions of cells
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从数百万细胞
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and expands them into billions.
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繁殖到数十亿
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And we then coax these cells to produce collagen,
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然后我们诱导细胞制造胶原蛋白
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as they would naturally.
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这是其天然功能
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This collagen is the stuff between cells.
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在细胞之间的胶原蛋白
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It's natural connective tissue.
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是天然的结缔组织
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It's the extracellular matrix,
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是细胞外基质
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but in leather, it's the main building block.
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但在皮革里是主要的成分
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And what we next do is we take the cells and their collagen
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下一步是萃取细胞及胶原蛋白
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and we spread them out to form sheets,
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将其铺展成薄片
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and then we layer these thin sheets on top of one another,
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再把薄片堆迭起来
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like phyllo pastry, to form thicker sheets,
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形成较厚层 像酥皮糕点
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which we then let mature.
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然后待其成熟
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And finally, we take this multilayered skin
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最后这种多层的皮肤
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and through a shorter and much less chemical tanning process,
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再经过较短少的化学鞣制程序
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we create leather.
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我们制造了皮革
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And so I'm very excited to show you,
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我以激动的心情
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for the first time,
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向各位首次展示
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the first batch of our cultured leather,
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第一批培养出来的皮革
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fresh from the lab.
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实验室刚刚出炉
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This is real, genuine leather,
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这是真的皮革
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without the animal sacrifice.
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没有动物被杀害
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It can have all the characteristics of leather
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它能具有皮革全部的特性
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because it is made of the same cells,
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因为组成的细胞相同
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and better yet,
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但更棒的是
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there is no hair to remove,
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它不用除毛
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no scars or insect's bites,
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没有疤痕或虫咬
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and no waste.
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没有碎料
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This leather can be grown in the shape of a wallet,
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这种皮革能一体成型 长成皮夹
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a handbag or a car seat.
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手提包 或汽车座位的形状
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It is not limited to the irregular shape of a cow
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不像牛或鳄鱼的皮
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or an alligator.
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形状不规则
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And because we make this material,
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因为这是我们制造的
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we grow this leather from the ground up,
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从头开始培养的皮革
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we can control its properties in very interesting ways.
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我们可以以有去的方式控制其属性
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This piece of leather
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这个皮革
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is a mere seven tissue layers thick,
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组织仅有七层
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and as you can see, it is nearly transparent.
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可以看得出几乎是透明的
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And this leather is 21 layers thick and quite opaque.
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这个皮革是21层 相当不透明
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You don't have that kind of fine control
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这种细致的操控
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with conventional leather.
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是普通的皮革无法达到的
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And we can tune this leather for other desirable qualities,
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我们能调整其他想要的性质
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like softness, breathability,
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例如柔软性 透气性
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durability, elasticity and even things like pattern.
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耐久性 弹性 甚至花样
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We can mimic nature,
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我们可以模仿自然
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but in some ways also improve upon it.
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但有些方面也能加以改进
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This type of leather can do what today's leather does,
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现有皮革的功能 这种皮革都有
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but with imagination, probably much more.
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但运用想象力 功能还可能更多
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What could the future of animal products look like?
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动物产品的未来如何?
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It need not look like this,
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不必像这个样子
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which is actually the state of the art today.
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其实这已是目前最先进的
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Rather, it could be much more like this.
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但是更可以像这样
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Already, we have been manufacturing with cell cultures
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我们把培养的细胞用于生产
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for thousands of years, beginning with products
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已有数千年历史 最早的产品
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like wine, beer and yogurt.
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包括酒 啤酒 酸奶
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And speaking of food, our cultured food has evolved,
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说到食品 培养食品历经演变
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and today we prepare cultured food
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现在的培养食品来自
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in beautiful, sterile facilities like this.
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这种美丽 消过毒的厂房
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A brewery is essentially a bioreactor.
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啤酒厂基本上是生物反应器
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It is where cell culture takes place.
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细胞的培养在此进行
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Imagine that in this facility,
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试想在这个厂房
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instead of brewing beer,
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不是酿造啤酒
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we were brewing leather
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而是培养皮革
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or meat.
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或肉
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Imagine touring this facility,
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想想看参观这个厂房
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learning about how the leather or meat is cultured,
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学习皮革和肉的培养
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seeing the process from beginning to end,
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观察从头到尾的制造程序
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and even trying some.
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甚至试一试
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It's clean, open and educational,
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清洁 开放 具教育意义
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and this is in contrast to the hidden,
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这截然不同于现在
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guarded and remote factories
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隐秘 门禁森严 偏远的
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where leather and meat is produced today.
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皮革工厂和肉工厂
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Perhaps biofabrication
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或许生物制造
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is a natural evolution of manufacturing for mankind.
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是人类制造方式的自然演进
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It's environmentally responsible,
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它环保
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efficient and humane.
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有效率又人道
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It allows us to be creative.
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我们得以发挥创造力
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We can design new materials, new products,
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我们能设计新材质 新产品
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and new facilities.
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新厂房
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We need to move past just killing animals
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我们应该超越将动物
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as a resource
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作为资源而杀害
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to something more civilized and evolved.
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应该转向更文明与进化的方式
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Perhaps we are ready for something
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或许我们已准备迎接
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literally and figuratively more cultured.
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更多培养的 文明的产品
08:42
Thank you.
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谢谢
08:44
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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