Barton Seaver: Sustainable seafood? Let's get smart

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Translator: Valbona Bushi Reviewer: Alida Hamo
00:15
Sustainability represents
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Qendrueshmeria perfaqeson
00:17
the what, the where and the how
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pyetjet: cfare, ku, dhe si
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of what is caught.
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e asaj qe peshkohet.
00:21
The who and the why are what's important to me.
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Pyetjet kush dhe pse jane te rendesishme per mua.
00:23
I want to know the people behind my dinner choices.
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Dua te njoh njerezit prapa zgjedhjeve te mia te darkes.
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I want to know how I impact them.
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Dua te dij se cfare ndikimi i sjell atyre.
00:27
I want to know how they impact me.
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Dua te di qysh me ndikojne mua.
00:29
I want to know why they fish.
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Dua te kuptoj pse peshkojne.
00:31
I want to know how they rely on the water's bounty
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Dua te mesoj se si mbeshteten ne pasurite e ujit
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for their living.
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per jetesen e tyre.
00:35
Understanding all of this enables us
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Kuptimi i të gjithë kësaj na jep mundësine
00:37
to shift our perception of seafood
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te ndryshojme idete tona per ushqimin e detit
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away from a commodity
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larg nga nje mall
00:41
to an opportunity
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tek mundesia
00:43
to restore our ecosystem.
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per te rregulluar ekosistemin ku jetojme.
00:45
It allows for us to celebrate the seafood
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Na lejon te kremtojme ushqimin e detit
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that we're also so fortunate to eat.
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qe jemi me fat qe mund ta konsumojme
00:49
So what do we call this?
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Atehere, cfare e quajme kete?
00:51
I think we call it restorative seafood.
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Besoj se e quajme ushqim deti restaurues.
00:54
Where sustainability is the capacity
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Ku qëndrueshmëria është kapaciteti
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to endure and maintain,
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per te duruar dhe mbajtur,
00:58
restorative is the ability to replenish and progress.
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Restaurimi eshte mundesia per te plotesuar dhe perparuar.
01:01
Restorative seafood allows for an evolving and dynamic system
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Ushqim deti restaurues lejon per nje sistem dinamik evolues
01:04
and acknowledges our relationship with the ocean
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qe pranon marredhenien tone me oqeanin
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as a resource,
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si nje burim,
01:08
suggesting that we engage to replenish the ocean
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duke sugjeruar qe ne duhet te perfshihemi ne ripasurimin e oqeanit
01:11
and to encourage its resiliency.
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dhe te inkurajojme qendryueshmerine e tij.
01:13
It is a more hopeful, it is a more human,
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Eshte me shpresedhenese, me njerezore
01:16
and is a more useful way of understanding our environment.
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dhe është një mënyrë më e dobishme per te kuptuar mjedisin tonë.
01:20
Wallet guides -- standard issue
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Guidat e portofolit - masa normale
01:23
by lots in the marine conservation world --
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nga shume ne boten e konservimit ujor -
01:25
are very handy; they're a wonderful tool.
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jane shume te rendesishme, mjete te nevojeshme
01:28
Green, yellow and red lists [of] seafood species.
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Jeshil, e verdha, dhe e kuqe tregon lloje te ndryshme ushqimi deti.
01:31
The association is very easy: buy green, don't buy red,
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Asocimi eshte shume i lehte: bli ato me ngjyre jeshile, mos bli me te kuqe
01:34
think twice about yellow.
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dhe mendohu disa here per ato ne listen e verdhe.
01:36
But in my mind, it's really not enough
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Por ne mendjen time, nuk eshte mjaftueshem
01:38
to just eat green list.
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se sa te ushqehesh vetem nga lista jeshile.
01:40
We can't sustain this without the measure of our success
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Nuk mund ta perballojme këtë pa matjen e suksesit tonë
01:43
really changing the fate of the species
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qe me te vertete te ndyshojme fatin e specieve
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in the yellow and the red.
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ne listat e verdhe dhe te kuqe.
01:47
But what if we eat only in the green list?
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Por sikur me te vertete te ushqehemi vetem nga lista e gjelber?
01:50
You've got pole-caught yellowfin tuna here --
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Aty ke ton te verdhe te kapur
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comes from sustainable stocks.
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qe vjen nga stoqe te qendrueshme.
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Pole caught -- no bycatch.
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Te kapura me shkop.
01:57
Great for fishermen. Lots of money. Supporting local economies.
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Shume mire per peshkatare. Shume lek dhe ndihmon ekonomite e vendit.
02:00
But it's a lion of the sea. It's a top predator.
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Por toni eshte luani i detit, predatori i pare.
02:03
What's the context of this meal?
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Cfare eshte konteksti i keti vaktit?
02:05
Am I sitting down in a steakhouse to a 16-ounce portion of this?
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A po ulem ne nje restorant to have gjysem kilogrami ton?
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Do I do this three times a week?
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E bej kete 3 here ne jave?
02:10
I might still be in the green list,
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Me te vertete qe po ha nga lista jeshile,
02:12
but I'm not doing myself, or you,
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por nuk po i bej as vetes, as ty,
02:14
or the oceans any favors.
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ose oqeaneve ndonje favor.
02:18
The point is that we have to have a context,
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Pika eshte se duhet te kemi nje kontekst,
02:20
a gauge for our actions in all this.
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nje menyre per te matur veprimet tona ne te gjithe kete.
02:23
Example: I've heard that red wine is great for my health --
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Per shembull: kam degjuar qe vera e kuqe me ben shume mire per shendetin -
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antioxidants and minerals -- heart healthy.
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ka antioksidante dhe minerale - per nje zemer te shendetshme.
02:28
That's great! I love red wine!
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Shume bukur! Me pelqen shume vera e kuqe!!
02:30
I'm going to drink so much of it. I'm going to be so healthy.
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Do pi aq shume nga ajo, dhe do jem shume me shendet te mire.
02:33
Well, how many bottles is it
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Por, sa shishe te kesaj vere duhet te konsumoj
02:35
before you tell me that I have a problem?
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perpara se te me thoni qe kam nje problem?
02:37
Well folks, we have a protein problem.
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Tani, ne kemi nje problem proteinash.
02:39
We have lost this sensibility
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Kemi humbur kete ndjeshmeri
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when it regards our food,
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kur i vjen ceshtja tek ushqimi tone,
02:43
and we are paying a cost.
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dhe po paguajme nje cmim.
02:45
The problem is we are hiding that cost beneath the waves.
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Problemi eshte se po e fshehim kete cmim poshte valeve.
02:48
We are hiding that cost
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Po e fshehim kete cmim
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behind the social acceptance of expanding waistlines.
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pas pranimin social të zgjerimit te linjave te trupit..
02:52
And we are hiding that cost behind monster profits.
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Dhe po e fshehim kete cmim pas fitimeve te medha.
02:56
So the first thing about this idea of restorative seafood
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Keshtu qe gjera e pare e kesaj ide te ushiqimit restaurues,
02:58
is that it really takes into account our needs.
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është se me të vërtetë i merr parasysh nevojat tona.
03:01
Restorative seafood might best be represented
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Ushqim deti restaurues mund të përfaqësohet me mire
03:03
not by Jaws, or by Flipper, or the Gordon's fisherman,
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jo nga Jaws, ose Flipper, ose peshkataret te Gordonit,
03:05
but rather, by the Jolly Green Giant.
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por nga Jolly Green Giant.
03:08
Vegetables:
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Perimet:
03:10
they might yet save the oceans.
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ato kane mundesine te shpetojne oqeanet.
03:12
Sylvia likes to say that blue is the new green.
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Sylvia pelqen te thote qe ngjyra blu eshte jeshilja e re.
03:14
Well I'd like to respectfully submit
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Atehere, unë do të doja të paraqesë me respekt
03:16
that broccoli green might then be the new blue.
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qe brokoli jeshil mund te jete bluja e re.
03:20
We must continue to eat
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Duhet te vazhdojme te hame
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the best seafood possible, if at all.
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akoma ushqim deti, me te mirin e mundur.
03:25
But we also must eat it with a ton of vegetables.
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Por duhet ta hame gjithashtu me shume perime.
03:28
The best part about restorative seafood though
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Por pjesa me e mire mbi ushqim deti restaurues
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is that it comes on the half-shell
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eshte qe vjen ne gjysem
03:32
with a bottle of Tabasco and lemon wedges.
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me nje shishe Tabasco dhe copa limoni.
03:34
It comes in a five-ounce portion of tilapia
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Vjen ne nje porcion te tilapia
03:36
breaded with Dijon mustard and crispy, broiled breadcrumbs
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e veshur me copa bukë me mustardë Dijon dhe te gatuara ne sobe
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and a steaming pile of pecan quinoa pilaf
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dhe një grumbull te pilafit quinoa me arra
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with crunchy, grilled broccoli
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me brokoli nga zgarra
03:43
so soft and sweet and charred and smoky on the outside
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kaq e butë dhe e ëmbël dhe pak e djegur ne pjesën e jashtme
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with just a hint of chili flake.
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me pak fare chili per shije.
03:47
Whooo!
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Whoo!!
03:49
This is an easy sell.
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Kjo eshte e lehte per tu shitur.
03:51
And the best part is all of those ingredients are available
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The gjeja me a bukur eshte se te gjitha keto jane ne dispozicion
03:53
to every family at the neighborhood Walmart.
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te cdo familje ne dyqanin me te afert te Walmart.
03:56
Jamie Oliver is campaigning
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Jamie Oliver po ben fushate
03:59
to save America from the way we eat.
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te shpetoj Ameriken nga menyra se si ushqehemi.
04:02
Sylvia is campaigning to save the oceans
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Sylvia po ben fushate to shpetoj oqeanet
04:05
from the way we eat.
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nga menyra se si ushqehemi.
04:07
There's a pattern here.
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Modeli i dukshem ketu.
04:09
Forget nuclear holocaust;
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Harroje fare per nje holokaust nuklear;
04:11
it's the fork that we have to worry about.
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eshte piruni per te cilin duhet te shqetesohemi.
04:14
We have ravaged our Earth
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E kemi rrenuar token tone
04:16
and then used the food that we've sourced
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dhe pastaj përdorem ushqimin
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to handicap ourselves in more ways than one.
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per te bere veten te mete ne me shume se nje menyre.
04:21
So I think we have this whole eating thing wrong.
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Une besoj qe e kemi gabim kete menyre te ushqyeri.
04:24
And so I think it's time
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Dhe them se ka ardhur koha
04:26
we change what we expect from our food.
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te ndryshojme se cfare presim nga ushqimi.
04:28
Sustainability is complicated
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Qëndrueshmëria eshte e komplikuar,
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but dinner is a reality that we all very much understand.
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por darka eshte nje realitet qe te gjithe e kuptojme mire,
04:33
So let's start there.
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keshtuqe te fillojme aty.
04:35
There's been a lot of movement recently in greening our food systems.
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Kemi pasur shume lëvizje kohët e fundit në gjelbërimin e sistemeve tonë ushqime.
04:38
Dan Barber and Alice Waters
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Dan Barber dhe Alice Waters
04:40
are leading passionately the green food Delicious Revolution.
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po udheheqin me pasion revolucionin e Ushqim te Shijeshem jeshil.
04:43
But green foods often represent
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Por ushqimi jeshil shpesh perfaqeson per ne
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a way for us to disregard
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nje menyre per te injoruar
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the responsibility as eaters.
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pergjegjesine si ngrenes.
04:49
Just because it comes from a green source
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Vetem se vjen nga nje burim jeshil
04:51
doesn't mean we can treat it with disregard on the plate.
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nuk do të thotë që mund ti trajtojmë pa respekt në pjatë.
04:55
We have eco-friendly shrimp.
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Kemi karkaleca eco-miqesore.
04:57
We can make them; we have that technology.
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Mund ti bejme; e kemi kete teknologji.
04:59
But we can never have any eco-friendly all-you-can-eat shrimp buffet.
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Por nuk mund te kemi asnje buffet eko-miqesore ku mund ta hash sa te duash.
05:03
It doesn't work.
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Nuk funksionon keshtu.
05:05
Heart-healthy dinner is a very important part
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Nje darke per zemer te shendetshme eshte shume e rendesishime
05:08
of restorative seafood.
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e ushiqimit te detit restaurues.
05:10
While we try to manage declining marine populations,
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Ndërkohë që përpiqemi të menaxhojme rëniet ne popullsi detare,
05:13
the media's recommending increased consumption of seafood.
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kur mediat rekomandojne me shume konsumimin e ushqimit te detit.
05:16
Studies say that tens of thousands
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Studimet tregojne qe dhjetra mijera
05:18
of American grandmothers, grandfathers, mothers and fathers
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gjyshe, mama dhe baba amerikane
05:20
might be around for another birthday
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mund te jene me ne dhe per nje ditelindje tjeter
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if we included more seafood.
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po te hame me shume ushqim deti.
05:24
That's a reward I am not willing to pass up.
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Ky eshtë një shpërblim që unë nuk jam gati për ta anashkaluar.
05:27
But it's not all about the seafood.
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Por nuk eshte gjithcka per ushqimin e detit.
05:29
It's about the way that we look at our plates.
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Eshte menyra se qysh i shikojme pjatat tona.
05:32
As a chef, I realize the easiest thing for me to do
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Si nje guzhinier chef, e kuptoj qe gjeja me e lehte qe te bej
05:34
is reduce the portion sizes on my plate.
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eshte te ha me pak me cdo pjate.
05:37
A couple things happened.
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Disa gjera ndodhen.
05:39
I made more money.
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Bera me shume leke.
05:41
People started buying appetizers and salads,
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Njerezit filluan te blenin appertiv dhe sallata,
05:43
because they knew they weren't going to fill up on the entrees alone.
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sepse e dinin qe nuk do te ishin plot thjesht me pjaten kryesore.
05:46
People spent more time engaging in their meals,
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Njerëzit shpenzonin më shumë kohë të angazhuar me ushqimet e tyre,
05:48
engaging with each other over their meals.
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te angazhuar me njeri tjetrin mbi vaktet e tyre.
05:51
People got, in short, more of what they came there for
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Njerezit merrnin, me pak fjale, ate per te cilen kishin ardhur,
05:54
even though they got less protein.
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megjithese merrnin me pak proteine.
05:56
They got more calories over the course of a diversified meal.
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Arrinin te merrnin me shume kalori gjate nje vakti me gjera te ndryshme.
05:59
They got healthier. I made more money.
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U bene me te shendetshem dhe une bera me shume leke.
06:01
This is great.
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Kjo eshte shume bukur.
06:03
Environmental consideration was served with every plate,
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Konsiderata e mjedisit ishte e shërbyer ne çdo pjatë
06:06
but it was served with a heaping mound
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por ishte sherbyer me shume
06:08
of consideration for human interests at the same time.
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konsiderim për interesat njerëzore në të njëjtën kohë.
06:12
One of the other things we did
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Nje nga gjerat e tjera qe beme
06:14
was begin to diversify the species that we served --
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ishte qe filluam te ndryshonim llojet qe sherbenim -
06:17
small silverfish, anchovies, mackerel, sardines were uncommon.
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peshq te ndryshem si skumbri, dhe sardele ishin të zakonshme
06:20
Shellfish, mussels, oysters,
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Butak, midhje, ojsters,
06:22
clams, tilapia, char -- these were the common species.
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tilapia, char - këto ishin llojet e zakonshme gjithashtu.
06:25
We were directing tastes
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Po drejtonim shijet
06:27
towards more resilience, more restorative options.
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drejt me shume elasticiteti, drejt me shume menyrave restauruese.
06:31
This is what we need to favor.
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Kjo eshte gjeja qe na duhet te favorizojme.
06:33
This is what the green list says.
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Keshtu thote lista jeshile.
06:35
But this is also how we can actually begin to restore our environment.
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Por kjo eshte gjithashtu menyre si te fillojme te rregullojme mjedisin.
06:38
But what of those big predators,
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Por per ata predator te medhenj,
06:40
those fashionable species,
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ato llojet te kohes,
06:42
that green list tuna that I was talking about earlier?
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ajo tuna ne listen jeshile te cilen po diskutoja me perpara?
06:45
Well, if you must, I have a recipe for you.
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Atehere, po deshe, kam nje recete per ty.
06:48
It pretty much works with any big fish in the ocean,
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Funksionon afersisht per cdo peshk ne oqean,
06:50
so here we go.
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keshtuqe ja tek eshte.
06:52
Start with a 16-ounce portion of big fish.
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Fillo me gjysem kilogrami te nje peshk te madh.
06:55
Get a knife. Cut it into four portions.
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Merr nje thike. Preje ne 4 cope.
06:58
Put it on four plates.
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Vendose ne 4 pjata.
07:00
Mound up those four plates with vegetables
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Mbushi te njetat pjata me perime
07:02
and then open up the very best bottle of Burgundy you have,
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dhe pastaj hap shishen me te mire te veres Burgundy qe ke,
07:04
light the candles and celebrate it.
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ndiz qirinjte dhe festoni.
07:07
Celebrate the opportunity you have to eat this.
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Festoni mundesine qe mund te hani kete.
07:09
Invite your friends and neighbors over
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Ftoni dhe shoket dhe komshinjte ne shtepi
07:11
and repeat once a year,
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dhe perseriteni nje here ne vit,
07:14
maybe.
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mbase.
07:16
I expect a lot from food.
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Pres shume nga ushqimi.
07:18
I expect health
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Pres shendet
07:20
and joy and family and community.
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dhe gezim dhe familje dhe komunitet.
07:22
I expect that producing ingredients,
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Pres qe pergatitja,
07:24
preparing dishes and eating meals
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e ushqimeve dhe ngrenja e vakteve
07:27
is all part of the communion of human interests.
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te jete pjese e bashkesise se interesit njerezor.
07:30
I was lucky enough that my father was a fantastic cook.
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Isha me fat qe babai im ishte guzhinier fantastik.
07:32
And he taught me very early on
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Dhe me mesoi qe ne fillim
07:34
about the privilege that eating represents.
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privilegjin qe ngrenja perfaqeson.
07:37
I remember well the meals of my childhood.
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I mbaj mend shume mire vaktet e femijerise.
07:39
They were reasonable portions of protein
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Cdo porcion i proteines ishte i arsyeshem
07:41
served with copious quantities of vegetables
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sherbyer me sasi perimesh me bollek
07:43
and small amounts of starch, usually rice.
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dhe pak dicka niseshteje, zakonisht oriz.
07:45
This is still how I largely eat today.
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Keshtu ha akoma shumicen e kohes tani.
07:48
I get sick when I go to steakhouses.
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Semurem kur shkoj ne restorante bifteku.
07:51
I get the meat sweats.
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Me kapnin djerset e mishit.
07:53
It's like a hangover from protein.
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Eshte si dehje nga proteinat.
07:55
It's disgusting.
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Eshte e peshtire.
07:58
But of all the dire news that you'll hear
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por të gjitha lajmet e tmerrshme që dëgjoni
08:01
and that you have heard about the state of our oceans,
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dhe qe keni degjuar per gjendjen e oqeaneve tone
08:03
I have the unfortunate burden of delivering to you
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Kam barrën qe tju jap ju
08:05
possibly the very worst of it
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mundesisht me te keqen e saj
08:07
and that is this whole time
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dhe ajo eshte qe gjate gjithe kohes,
08:09
your mother was right.
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mami kishte te drejte.
08:11
Eat your vegetables.
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Hani perimet.
08:14
It's pretty straightforward.
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Eshte shume e thjeshte.
08:16
So what are we looking for in a meal?
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Cfare kerkojme nga nje vakt?
08:18
Well for health, I'm looking for wholesome ingredients
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Për shëndetin, po kërkoj për përbërës te shëndetshëm
08:21
that are good for my body.
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qe i bejne mire trupit.
08:23
For joy, I'm looking for butter and salt
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Per qejf, kerkoj per gjalpe dhe kripe
08:25
and sexy things that make things taste less like penance.
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dhe gjëra seksi që e bëjnë gjithcka te shijoj me me pak pendim.
08:28
For family, I'm looking for recipes
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Per ndienjen e familjes, kerkoj per receta
08:31
that genuflect to my own personal histories.
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qe reflektojne pjese te tregimeve te mia personale.
08:34
For community though, we start at the very beginning.
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Por per nje komunitet, duhet te fillojme nga fillimi.
08:37
There's no escaping the fact
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Nuk mund te shpetosh nga fakti
08:39
that everything we eat has a global impact.
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qe gjithcka qe konsumojme ka ndikim global.
08:41
So try and learn as best you can what that impact is
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Keshtu qe mundohu te mesosh sa me mire cfare eshte ai ndikim
08:43
and then take the first step to minimize it.
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dhe pastaj bej hapin e pare per ta zvogeluar.
08:47
We've seen an image of our blue planet,
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E kemi pare nje imazh te planetit tone blu,
08:49
our world bank.
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banka jone boterore.
08:51
But it is more than just a repository of our resources;
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Por eshte me shume se vetem nje depozite e burimeve tona;
08:54
it's also the global geography
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eshte gjithashtu gjeografia globale
08:57
of the communion we call dinner.
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e bashkesis qe e quajme darke.
09:00
So if we all take only what we need,
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Keshtu qe nese marrim vetem cfare na duhet,
09:02
then we can begin to share the rest,
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dhe te fillojme ti ndajme te tjerat,
09:05
we can begin to celebrate,
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mund te filloje te festojme,
09:07
we can begin to restore.
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mund te fillojme te restaurojme.
09:09
We need to savor vegetables.
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Duhet te shijojme perimet.
09:11
We need to savor smaller portions of seafood.
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Duhet te shijojme porcione me te vogla te ushqimit te detit.
09:14
And we need to save dinner.
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Dhe duhet te shpetojme darken tone.
09:16
Thank you.
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Faleminderit.
09:18
(Applause)
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