Barton Seaver: Sustainable seafood? Let's get smart

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Sustainability represents
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the what, the where and the how
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of what is caught.
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The who and the why are what's important to me.
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I want to know the people behind my dinner choices.
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I want to know how I impact them.
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I want to know how they impact me.
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I want to know why they fish.
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I want to know how they rely on the water's bounty
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for their living.
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Understanding all of this enables us
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to shift our perception of seafood
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away from a commodity
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to an opportunity
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to restore our ecosystem.
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It allows for us to celebrate the seafood
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that we're also so fortunate to eat.
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So what do we call this?
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I think we call it restorative seafood.
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Where sustainability is the capacity
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to endure and maintain,
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restorative is the ability to replenish and progress.
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Restorative seafood allows for an evolving and dynamic system
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and acknowledges our relationship with the ocean
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as a resource,
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suggesting that we engage to replenish the ocean
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and to encourage its resiliency.
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It is a more hopeful, it is a more human,
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and is a more useful way of understanding our environment.
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Wallet guides -- standard issue
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by lots in the marine conservation world --
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are very handy; they're a wonderful tool.
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Green, yellow and red lists [of] seafood species.
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The association is very easy: buy green, don't buy red,
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think twice about yellow.
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But in my mind, it's really not enough
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to just eat green list.
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We can't sustain this without the measure of our success
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really changing the fate of the species
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in the yellow and the red.
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But what if we eat only in the green list?
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You've got pole-caught yellowfin tuna here --
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comes from sustainable stocks.
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Pole caught -- no bycatch.
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Great for fishermen. Lots of money. Supporting local economies.
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But it's a lion of the sea. It's a top predator.
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What's the context of this meal?
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Am I sitting down in a steakhouse to a 16-ounce portion of this?
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Do I do this three times a week?
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I might still be in the green list,
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but I'm not doing myself, or you,
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or the oceans any favors.
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The point is that we have to have a context,
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a gauge for our actions in all this.
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Example: I've heard that red wine is great for my health --
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antioxidants and minerals -- heart healthy.
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That's great! I love red wine!
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I'm going to drink so much of it. I'm going to be so healthy.
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Well, how many bottles is it
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before you tell me that I have a problem?
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Well folks, we have a protein problem.
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We have lost this sensibility
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when it regards our food,
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and we are paying a cost.
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The problem is we are hiding that cost beneath the waves.
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We are hiding that cost
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behind the social acceptance of expanding waistlines.
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And we are hiding that cost behind monster profits.
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So the first thing about this idea of restorative seafood
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is that it really takes into account our needs.
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Restorative seafood might best be represented
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not by Jaws, or by Flipper, or the Gordon's fisherman,
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but rather, by the Jolly Green Giant.
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Vegetables:
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they might yet save the oceans.
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Sylvia likes to say that blue is the new green.
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Well I'd like to respectfully submit
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that broccoli green might then be the new blue.
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We must continue to eat
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the best seafood possible, if at all.
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But we also must eat it with a ton of vegetables.
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The best part about restorative seafood though
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is that it comes on the half-shell
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with a bottle of Tabasco and lemon wedges.
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It comes in a five-ounce portion of tilapia
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breaded with Dijon mustard and crispy, broiled breadcrumbs
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and a steaming pile of pecan quinoa pilaf
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with crunchy, grilled broccoli
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so soft and sweet and charred and smoky on the outside
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with just a hint of chili flake.
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Whooo!
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This is an easy sell.
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And the best part is all of those ingredients are available
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to every family at the neighborhood Walmart.
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Jamie Oliver is campaigning
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to save America from the way we eat.
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Sylvia is campaigning to save the oceans
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from the way we eat.
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There's a pattern here.
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Forget nuclear holocaust;
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it's the fork that we have to worry about.
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We have ravaged our Earth
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and then used the food that we've sourced
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to handicap ourselves in more ways than one.
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So I think we have this whole eating thing wrong.
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And so I think it's time
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we change what we expect from our food.
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Sustainability is complicated
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but dinner is a reality that we all very much understand.
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So let's start there.
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There's been a lot of movement recently in greening our food systems.
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Dan Barber and Alice Waters
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are leading passionately the green food Delicious Revolution.
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But green foods often represent
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a way for us to disregard
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the responsibility as eaters.
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Just because it comes from a green source
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doesn't mean we can treat it with disregard on the plate.
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We have eco-friendly shrimp.
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We can make them; we have that technology.
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But we can never have any eco-friendly all-you-can-eat shrimp buffet.
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It doesn't work.
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Heart-healthy dinner is a very important part
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of restorative seafood.
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While we try to manage declining marine populations,
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the media's recommending increased consumption of seafood.
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Studies say that tens of thousands
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of American grandmothers, grandfathers, mothers and fathers
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might be around for another birthday
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if we included more seafood.
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That's a reward I am not willing to pass up.
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But it's not all about the seafood.
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It's about the way that we look at our plates.
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As a chef, I realize the easiest thing for me to do
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is reduce the portion sizes on my plate.
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A couple things happened.
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I made more money.
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People started buying appetizers and salads,
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because they knew they weren't going to fill up on the entrees alone.
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People spent more time engaging in their meals,
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engaging with each other over their meals.
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People got, in short, more of what they came there for
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even though they got less protein.
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They got more calories over the course of a diversified meal.
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They got healthier. I made more money.
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This is great.
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Environmental consideration was served with every plate,
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but it was served with a heaping mound
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of consideration for human interests at the same time.
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One of the other things we did
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was begin to diversify the species that we served --
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small silverfish, anchovies, mackerel, sardines were uncommon.
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Shellfish, mussels, oysters,
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clams, tilapia, char -- these were the common species.
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We were directing tastes
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towards more resilience, more restorative options.
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This is what we need to favor.
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This is what the green list says.
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But this is also how we can actually begin to restore our environment.
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But what of those big predators,
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those fashionable species,
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that green list tuna that I was talking about earlier?
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Well, if you must, I have a recipe for you.
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It pretty much works with any big fish in the ocean,
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so here we go.
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Start with a 16-ounce portion of big fish.
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Get a knife. Cut it into four portions.
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Put it on four plates.
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Mound up those four plates with vegetables
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and then open up the very best bottle of Burgundy you have,
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light the candles and celebrate it.
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Celebrate the opportunity you have to eat this.
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Invite your friends and neighbors over
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and repeat once a year,
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maybe.
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I expect a lot from food.
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I expect health
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and joy and family and community.
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I expect that producing ingredients,
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preparing dishes and eating meals
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is all part of the communion of human interests.
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I was lucky enough that my father was a fantastic cook.
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And he taught me very early on
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about the privilege that eating represents.
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I remember well the meals of my childhood.
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They were reasonable portions of protein
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served with copious quantities of vegetables
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and small amounts of starch, usually rice.
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This is still how I largely eat today.
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I get sick when I go to steakhouses.
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I get the meat sweats.
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It's like a hangover from protein.
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It's disgusting.
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But of all the dire news that you'll hear
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and that you have heard about the state of our oceans,
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I have the unfortunate burden of delivering to you
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possibly the very worst of it
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and that is this whole time
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your mother was right.
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Eat your vegetables.
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It's pretty straightforward.
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So what are we looking for in a meal?
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Well for health, I'm looking for wholesome ingredients
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that are good for my body.
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For joy, I'm looking for butter and salt
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and sexy things that make things taste less like penance.
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For family, I'm looking for recipes
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that genuflect to my own personal histories.
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For community though, we start at the very beginning.
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There's no escaping the fact
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that everything we eat has a global impact.
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So try and learn as best you can what that impact is
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and then take the first step to minimize it.
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We've seen an image of our blue planet,
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our world bank.
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But it is more than just a repository of our resources;
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it's also the global geography
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of the communion we call dinner.
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So if we all take only what we need,
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then we can begin to share the rest,
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we can begin to celebrate,
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we can begin to restore.
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We need to savor vegetables.
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We need to savor smaller portions of seafood.
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And we need to save dinner.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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