Homeopathy, quackery and fraud | James Randi | TED

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Translator: Ainoa Antelo Pérez Reviewer: Xusto Rodriguez
00:16
Good morning.
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Bo día.
00:18
Happy to see so many fine folks out here
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Estou encantado de ver tanta xente boa aquí
00:21
and so many smiling faces.
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cun sorriso na cara.
00:24
I have a very peculiar
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Teño unha formación, unha actitude e un enfoque moi característico
00:26
background, attitude and approach
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00:28
to the real world
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con respecto ao mundo real
00:30
because I am a conjurer.
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porque son ilusionista.
00:32
Now, I prefer that term over magician,
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Prefiro este termo no canto do de mago,
00:35
because if I were a magician, that would mean
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porque de selo, iso significaría
00:37
that I use spells and incantations
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que uso conxuros e feitizos
00:39
and weird gestures
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e acenos estraños
00:42
in order to accomplish real magic.
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co obxectivo de lograr maxia de verdade.
00:45
No, I don't do that; I'm a conjurer,
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Eu non fago iso, son ilusionista
00:47
who is someone who pretends to be
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unha persoa que simula ser
00:50
a real magician. (Laughter)
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un mago de verdade.
00:53
Now, how do we go about that sort of thing?
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Entón, como imos abordar este tema?
00:56
We depend on the fact
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Dependemos de que vós, o público
00:58
that audiences, such as yourselves,
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01:00
will make assumptions.
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vai facer presuposicións.
01:02
For example, when I walked up here
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Por exemplo, cando cheguei aquí
01:04
and I took the microphone from the stand
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e collín o micrófono do estrado
01:06
and switched it on,
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e o acendín
01:08
you assumed this was a microphone, which it is not.
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supuxestes que isto era un micro
pero non o é.
01:10
(Laughter)
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01:12
As a matter of fact, this is something
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De feito, isto é algo
01:14
that about half of you, more than half of you will not be familiar with.
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co que a metade de vós non está familiarizado.
01:17
It's a beard trimmer, you see?
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É unha recortadora para a barba, vedes?
01:20
And it makes a very bad microphone;
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E é un micrófono pésimo,
01:22
I've tried it many times. (Laughter)
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xa o probei moitas veces.
01:24
The other assumption that you made --
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A outra cousa que supuxestes...
01:26
and this little lesson is to show you
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E esta é unha lección para amosarvos
01:28
that you will make assumptions.
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que facedes presuposicións.
01:30
Not only that you can, but that you will
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Non só é que podedes, senón que o facedes
01:32
when they are properly suggested to you.
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se se vos presentan ben.
01:34
You believe I'm looking at you.
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Pensades que vos estou mirando.
01:36
Wrong. I'm not looking at you. I can't see you.
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Non. Non vou estou mirando. Non podo vervos.
01:39
I know you're out there, they told me backstage, it's a full house and such.
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Sei que estades aí, dixéronmo, está cheo.
01:42
I know you're there because I can hear you,
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Sei que estades aí porque vos escoito
01:44
but I can't see you because I normally wear glasses.
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pero non podo vervos porque uso lentes.
01:47
These are not glasses, these are empty frames. (Laughter)
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Isto non son lentes, é unha montura baleira.
01:49
Quite empty frames.
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Unha montura baleira.
01:51
Now why would a grown man appear before you
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Ben, por que se presentaría ante vós un home adulto
01:54
wearing empty frames on his face?
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cunhas lentes sen cristais?
01:56
To fool you, ladies and gentlemen,
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Para enganarvos, donas e cabaleiros,
01:58
to deceive you, to show that you, too,
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para confundirvos e ensinarvos que vós tamén
02:01
can make assumptions.
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presupoñedes cousas, nunca vos esquezades.
02:03
Don't you ever forget that.
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Primeiro teño que pór unhas lentes reais para vervos.
02:05
Now, I have to do something -- first of all, switch to real glasses
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02:07
so I can actually see you,
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02:09
which would probably be a convenience. I don't know.
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A verdade sería un detalle. Non sei.
02:12
I haven't had a good look. Well, it's not that great a convenience.
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Non é un gran detalle tampouco.
02:14
(Laughter)
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Teño que facer algo que é un pouco estraño para un mago.
02:16
I have to do something now, which seems
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02:18
a little bit strange for a magician.
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02:20
But I'm going to take some medication.
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Vou tomar uns medicamentos.
02:22
This is a full bottle of
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Isto é un bote enteiro de Calms Forte.
02:24
Calms Forte.
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02:26
I'll explain that in just a moment.
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Explicareino nun intre.
02:28
Ignore the instructions,
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Non lle fagades caso ás instrucións;
02:30
that's what the government has to put in there
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iso é o que o goberno pon aí
02:32
to confuse you, I'm sure.
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para confundirvos, estou seguro.
02:35
I will take enough of these. Mm.
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Tomarei abondas.
02:38
Indeed, the whole container.
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Vou tomar todo o bote, de feito.
02:47
Thirty-two tablets of Calms Forte.
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32 comprimidos de Calms Forte.
02:50
Now that I've done that -- I'll explain it in a moment --
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Agora que xa o fixen (e que explicarei logo)
02:53
I must tell you that
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teño que dicirvos que
02:55
I am an actor.
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son actor.
02:57
I'm an actor who plays a specific part.
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Son un actor que ten un papel en específico.
03:00
I play the part of a magician,
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O meu papel é o de mago
03:02
a wizard, if you will, a real wizard.
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Se queredes, un mago dos de verdade.
03:05
If someone were to appear on this stage in front of me
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Se alguén se presenta neste escenario diante de min
03:08
and actually claim to be
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e afirma que
03:10
an ancient prince of Denmark named Hamlet,
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é un antigo príncipe de Dinamarca chamado Hamlet
03:13
you would be insulted
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sentiriádesvos insultados, e con razón.
03:15
and rightly so.
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03:17
Why would a man assume that you would believe
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Por que alguén pensaría que que creriades tal barbaridade?
03:19
something bizarre like this?
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Pero hai moita xente aí fóra
03:21
But there exists out there
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03:23
a very large population
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unha morea de xente
03:26
of people who will tell you
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que vos dirá que teñen poderes psíquicos e máxicos.
03:28
that they have psychic, magical powers
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03:30
that they can predict the future,
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Que poden predicir o futuro
03:32
that they can make contact with the deceased.
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e que poden contactar cos mortos.
03:34
Oh, they also say
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Tamén din
03:36
they will sell you astrology
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que vos venderán astroloxía
03:38
or other fortunetelling methods.
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e outros métodos de adiviñación.
03:40
Oh, they gladly sell you that, yes.
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Venderánvolos de boa gana.
03:42
And they also say
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E tamén din
que poden darvos aparellos de movemento perpetuo
03:44
that they can give you perpetual motion machines
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03:46
and free energy systems.
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e xeradores de enerxía gratis.
03:48
They claim to be psychics,
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Afirman ser médiums
03:50
or sensitives, whatever they can.
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ou sensitivos, o que poidan.
03:52
But the one thing that has made a big comeback
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Pero o que está sendo moi importante agora
03:55
just recently
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03:57
is this business of
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é o negocio de
03:59
speaking with the dead.
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falar cos mortos.
04:02
Now, to my innocent mind,
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Agora ben, para a miña mente inocente
04:04
dead implies
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a morte implica
04:07
incapable of communicating. (Laughter)
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incapacidade para comunicarse.
04:10
You might agree with me on that.
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Igual estades de acordo comigo nisto.
04:12
But these people, they tend to tell you that
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Pero esta xente intentará dicirvos que
04:15
not only can they communicate with the dead --
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non só se poden comunicar cos mortos
04:17
"Hi, there" --
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"Ei, que tal"
04:19
but they can hear the dead as well,
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senón que tamén os poden escoitar
04:21
and they can relay this information back to the living.
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e que lle poden transmitir esta información aos vivos.
04:24
I wonder if that's true.
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Será certo? Non o creo,
04:26
I don't think so, because
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04:28
this subculture of people
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porque esta subcultura
04:30
use exactly the same gimmicks that we magicians do,
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usa os mesmos trucos que usamos os magos
04:33
exactly the same --
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–os mesmiños–
04:35
the same physical methods, the same psychological methods --
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os mesmos métodos físicos e psicolóxicos.
04:38
and they effectively and profoundly
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Enganan profundamente a millóns de persoas no mundo
04:41
deceive millions of people around the earth,
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04:43
to their detriment.
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para a súa desgraza.
04:45
They deceive these people,
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Enganan a esta xente,
04:47
costs them a lot of money,
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fanlle gastar moitos cartos
04:49
cost them a lot of emotional anguish.
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e provócanlle moita angustia emocional.
04:51
Billions of dollars are spent
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Gástanse miles de millóns de dólares
04:53
every year, all over the globe,
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cada ano, en todo o mundo
04:56
on these charlatans.
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nestes falabaratos.
04:58
Now, I have two questions
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Ben, hai dúas preguntas que me gustaría facerlles
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I would like to ask these people
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05:02
if I had the opportunity to do so.
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de ter a oportunidade de facelo.
05:04
First question: If I want to ask them to call up --
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Primeira: quero preguntarlles se poden chamar...
05:07
because they do hear them through the ear.
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porque os escoitan a través dos oídos.
05:09
They listen to the spirits like this --
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Oen os espíritos así.
05:11
I'm going to ask you to call up the ghost of my grandmother
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Voulles pedir que contacten co fantasma da miña avoa
05:14
because, when she died, she had the family will,
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porque cando morreu, era ela quen tiña o testamento
05:16
and she secreted it someplace. We don't know where it is,
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e agachouno nalgún lado. Non sabemos onde está
05:18
so we ask Granny, "Where is the will, Granny?"
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así que preguntámoslle: "onde está, avoíña?"
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What does Granny say? She says, "I'm in heaven and it's wonderful.
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E que dixo a avoíña? Dixo: "estou no ceo e isto é marabilloso.
05:24
I'm here with all my old friends, my deceased friends,
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Estou aquí cos meus amigos,
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and my family
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a miña familia
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and all the puppy dogs and the kittens that I used to have when I was a little girl.
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e todos os cadeliños e gatiños que tiven cando era unha cativa.
05:31
And I love you, and I'll always be with you.
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Quérovos, e estarei sempre convosco.
05:34
Good bye."
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Adeus."
05:36
And she didn't answer the damn question!
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E non respondeu o demo de pregunta!
05:38
Where is the will?
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Onde está o testamento?
05:40
Now, she could easily have said,
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Porque tamén podería dicir:
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"Oh, it's in the library on the second shelf, behind the encyclopedia,"
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"No segundo estante, detrás da enciclopedia"
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but she doesn't say that. No, she doesn't.
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Pero iso non nolo dixo, non.
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She doesn't bring any useful information to us.
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Non nos dou ningunha información relevante.
05:50
We paid a lot of money for that information,
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Pagamos moitos cartos por esa información
05:52
be we didn't get it.
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e non a demos conseguido.
05:54
The second question that I'd like to ask, rather simple:
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A segunda pregunta que lles faría é bastante simple.
05:57
Suppose I ask them to contact
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Supoñamos que lles pido que contacten
05:59
the spirit of my deceased father-in-law, as an example.
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co espírito do meu sogro falecido, por exemplo.
06:02
Why do they insist on saying --
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Por que insisten en dicirche...
06:04
remember, they speak into this ear --
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(lembra, fálanlle ao oído)
06:06
why do they say, "My name starts with J or M?"
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Por que din: "O meu nome empeza por J ou M?"
06:11
Is this a hunting game?
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Estamos xogando ás adiviñas?
06:13
Hunting and fishing? What is it?
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O gato e o rato? Que é?
06:15
Is it 20 questions? No, it's more like 120 questions.
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Son 20 preguntas? Non, máis ben 120.
06:18
But it is a cruel, vicious,
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Pero é cruel, desapiadado
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absolutely conscienceless --
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totalmente de mala fe
06:25
I'll be all right, keep your seats (Laughter) --
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(Estou ben, quedade nos asentos)
06:28
game that these people play.
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ao que xogan estas persoas.
06:30
And they take advantage of the innocent, the naive,
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Aprovéitanse dos inocentes, dos inxenuos
06:33
the grieving, the needy people out there.
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dos que sofren, das persoas necesitadas.
06:36
Now, this is a process
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Este é un proceso que se chama lectura en frío.
06:38
that is called cold reading.
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06:42
There's one fellow out there,
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Hai un tipo que se chama Van Praagh.
06:45
Van Praagh is his name, James Van Praagh.
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É unha das eminencias desta trapallada.
06:47
He's one of the big practitioners of this sort of thing.
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06:49
John Edward, Sylvia Browne
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John Edward, Sylvia Browne
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and Rosemary Altea, they are other operators.
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e Rosemary Altea son outros artistas.
06:55
There are hundreds of them all over the earth, but in this country,
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Hai centos deles no mundo, pero neste país
06:58
James Van Praagh is very big.
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James Van Praagh é moi famoso.
07:00
And what does he do? He likes to tell you
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E que fai? Gústalle contarche
07:02
how the deceased got deceased,
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como faleceron os mortos.
07:04
the people he's talking to through his ear, you see?
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(a xente que lle fala ao oído, vedes?)
07:07
So what he says is, very often, is like this: he says,
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Pois o que di, normalmente, é así:
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"He tells me, he tells me, before he passed,
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"Ante de morrer, díxome
07:14
that he had trouble breathing."
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que lle custaba respirar".
07:16
Folks, that's what dying is all about!
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Home, iso é o que vén sendo morrer!
07:18
(Laughter)
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07:20
You stop breathing, and then you're dead.
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Paras de respirar e logo morres.
07:22
It's that simple.
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Así de fácil.
07:24
And that's the kind of information they're going to bring back to you?
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E ese é o tipo de información que che van dar?
07:27
I don't think so.
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Non o creo.
07:29
Now, these people will make guesses, they'll say things like,
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Esta xente vai adiviñando, din cousas como:
07:31
"Why am I getting electricity?
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"Por que me chega esta electricidade?"
07:33
He's saying to me, 'Electricity.'
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E dinme: "Electricidade".
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Was he an electrician?" "No."
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"Era electricista?" -Non.
07:38
"Did he ever have an electric razor?" "No."
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"Tiña unha afeitadora eléctrica?" -Non.
07:40
It was a game of hunting questions like this.
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Era un xogo de adiviñar, coma este.
07:42
This is what they go through.
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E así saen do paso.
07:44
Now, folks often ask us
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A xente pregúntanos moito na Fundación James Randi
07:46
at the James Randi Educational Foundation,
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07:48
they call me, they say, "Why are you so concerned about this, Mr. Randi?
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chámanme e dinme: "por que estás tan preocupado?
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Isn't it just a lot of fun?"
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Non é divertido?".
07:53
No, it is not fun. It is a cruel farce.
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Non, non é. É unha farsa cruel.
07:56
Now, it may bring a certain amount of comfort,
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Pode que che dea un pouco de consolo
07:59
but that comfort lasts
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pero ese consolo dura uns 20 minutos.
08:01
only about 20 minutes or so.
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08:03
And then the people look in the mirror, and they say,
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Despois esa xente mírase no espello e di:
08:05
I just paid a lot of money for that reading.
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Paguei moitos cartos por ese contacto.
08:07
And what did she say to me? 'I love you!'"
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E que me dixo? "Quérote!"
08:10
They always say that.
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Sempre din iso.
08:12
They don't get any information,
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Non lles dan nada de información
08:14
they don't get any value for what they spend.
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non obteñen nada polo que gastan.
08:16
Now, Sylvia Browne is the big operator.
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Sylvia Browne é a máis viva.
08:18
We call her "The Talons."
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Chamámoslle "a gadoupas"
08:20
Sylvia Browne -- thank you --
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Sylvia Browne -grazas-
08:22
Sylvia Browne is the big operator
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Sylvia Browne é a máis viva
08:25
in this field at this very moment.
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agora mesmo neste negocio.
08:27
Now, Sylvia Browne -- just to show you --
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Ben, Sylvia Brown (só para ensinárvolo)
08:30
she actually gets 700 dollars
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cobra 700 dólares
08:33
for a 20 minute reading over the telephone,
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por un contacto a través do teléfono de 20 minutos.
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she doesn't even go there in person,
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Nin sequera vai alí en persoa
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and you have to wait up to two years because
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e tes que esperar ata dous anos
porque xa ten reservas para todo ese tempo.
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she's booked ahead that amount of time.
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08:42
You pay by credit card or whatever,
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Pagas con tarxeta de crédito ou o que sexa
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and then she will call you
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e despois chámate nalgún momento dos dous anos seguintes.
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sometime in the next two years.
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08:48
You can tell it's her. "Hello, this is Sylvia Browne."
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Sabes que é ela. "Boas, son Sylvia Browne".
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That's her, you can tell right away.
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É ela, non hai fallo.
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Now, Montel Williams is an intelligent man.
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Montel Williams é un home intelixente.
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We all know who he is on television.
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Vémolo na televisión.
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He's well educated, he's smart,
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Está formado, é listo
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he knows what Sylvia Browne is doing
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sabe o que fai Sylvia Browne
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but he doesn't give a damn.
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pero impórtalle un rabo de can.
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He just doesn't care.
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Tanto lle dá coma tanto lle ten.
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Because, the bottom line is, the sponsors love it,
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Ao cabo e ao remate, aos patrocinadores gústalles
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and he will expose her
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e vana expoñer seguido na publicidade.
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to television publicity all the time.
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09:17
Now, what does Sylvia Browne give you for that 700 dollars?
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Que che dá Sylvia Browne por 700 dólares?
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She gives you the names of your guardian angels, that's first.
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Dáche os nomes dos teus anxos da garda.
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Now, without that, how could we possibly function? (Laughter)
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E que sen iso, como se pode vivir?
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She gives you the names of previous lives,
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Diche os nomes das túas vidas pasadas
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who you were in previous lives.
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e quen fuches noutra vida.
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Duh.
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Boh.
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It turns out that the women
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Resulta que todas as mulleres
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that she gives readings for
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ás que lles fai un contacto
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were all Babylonian princesses, or something like that.
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eran todas princesas babilonias, ou así
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And the men were all Grecian warriors
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e os homes eran guerreiros gregos que loitaban con Agamenón.
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fighting with Agamemnon.
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09:45
Nothing is ever said about
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Nunca se fala
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a 14 year-old bootblack in the streets of London
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da pequena limpadora de botas de Londres
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who died of consumption.
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que morreu de tise.
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He isn't worth bringing back, obviously.
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Non paga a pena recordala.
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And the strange thing -- folks, you may have noticed this too.
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E o raro disto... non sei se vos decatastes.
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You see these folks on television --
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Vedes estes tipos na televisión
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they never call anybody back from hell. (Laughter)
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e nunca chaman a ninguén do inferno.
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Everyone comes back from heaven, but never from hell.
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Todos volven do ceo, ninguén do inferno.
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If they call back any of my friends,
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Se chamaran a algún dos meus amigos
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they're not going to... Well, you see the story.
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que non o van facer... Xa se imaxinan.
10:11
(Laughter)
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10:14
Now, Sylvia Browne is an exception,
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Sylvia Browne é una excepción,
10:17
an exception in one way,
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unha excepción só nun sentido.
10:19
because the James Randi Educational Foundation, my foundation,
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Na miña fundación
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offers a one million dollar prize in negotiable bonds.
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ofrecemos 1 millón de dólares en obrigas negociables.
10:25
Very simply won.
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Doadísimo de gañar.
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All you have to do is prove any paranormal, occult
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Só tes que demostrar un suceso paranormal,
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or supernatural event or power of any kind
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de ocultismo ou sobrenatural de calquera clase
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under proper observing conditions.
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en condicións de observación adecuadas.
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It's very easy, win the million dollars.
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Doadísimo, gaña o millón de dólares.
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Sylvia Browne is an exception in that
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Sylvia Browne é unha excepción
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she's the only professional psychic
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porque é a única médium profesional en todo o mundo
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in the whole world
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that has accepted our challenge.
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que aceptou o noso reto.
10:45
She did this on the "Larry King Live" show on CNN
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Fíxoo nun programa da CNN
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six and a half years ago.
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hai seis anos e medio.
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And we haven't heard from her since. Strange.
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E aínda non temos noticias dela. Cousa rara.
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She said that, first of all, that she didn't know how to contact me.
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Primeiro dixo iso e logo que non sabía como contactar comigo.
10:57
Duh.
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Boh.
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A professional psychic who speaks to dead people,
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Unha médium profesional que fala cos mortos
11:02
she can't reach me?
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e non dá contactado comigo?
11:04
(Laughter)
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Estou vivo, como podedes comprobar.
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I'm alive, you may have noticed.
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11:08
Well, pretty well anyway.
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Ben, bastante ben igualmente.
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She couldn't reach me. Now she says she doesn't want to reach me
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Non podía contactar comigo, pero agora di que non quere
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because I'm a godless person.
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porque son un impío.
11:17
All the more reason to take the million dollars,
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Con máis razón quererías gañarme o millón de dólares
11:19
wouldn't you think, Sylvia?
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non cres, Sylvia?
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Now these people need to be stopped, seriously now.
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Hai que parar a esta xente, agora en serio.
11:24
They need to be stopped because this is a cruel farce.
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Hai que paralos porque é unha farsa cruel.
11:26
We get people coming to the foundation all the time.
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Chega xente á Fundación seguido.
11:29
They're ruined financially and emotionally
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Arruinados emocional e economicamente
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because they've given their money and their faith
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porque puxeron todos os seus cartos e fe nesa xente.
11:34
to these people.
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11:36
Now, I popped some pills earlier.
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Tomei unhas pastillas ao principio
11:38
I have to explain that to you.
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e agora téñovolo que explicar.
11:40
Homeopathy, let's find out what that's all about.
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A homeopatía, que vén sendo isto.
11:43
Hmm. You've heard of it.
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Algo escoitastes, supoño.
11:45
It's an alternative form of healing, right?
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É unha forma alternativa de curación, non?
11:48
Homeopathy actually consists -- and that's what this is.
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A homeopatía consiste... É isto.
11:51
This is Calms Forte,
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Isto é Calms Forte.
11:54
32 caplets of sleeping pills! I forgot to tell you that.
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32 pastillas para durmir! Esquecérame de dicírvolo.
11:57
I just ingested
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Acabo de inxerir
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six and a half days worth of sleeping pills.
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6 días e medio de pastillas para durmir.
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(Laughter)
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12:04
Six and a half days, that certainly is a fatal dose.
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6 días e medio é unha dose letal, sen dúbida.
12:06
It says right on the back here,
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Aquí detrás pon: "En caso de sobredose
12:08
"In case of overdose,
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12:10
contact your poison control center immediately,"
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chame inmediatamente ao centro de toxicoloxía"
12:12
and it gives an 800 number.
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e pon un número gratuíto.
12:14
Keep your seats -- it's going to be okay.
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Tranquilos, non vos preocupedes.
12:16
I don't really need it
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Non fai falla,
12:18
because I've been doing this stunt
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levo facendo este truco
para o público en todo o mundo
12:20
for audiences all over the world
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12:23
for the last eight or 10 years,
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durante os últimos 8 ou 10 anos.
12:25
taking fatal doses of homeopathic sleeping pills.
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Tomei moitas doses letais de pastillas para durmir homeopáticas.
12:28
Why don't they affect me?
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E por que non me afectan?
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(Laughter)
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12:32
(Applause)
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12:35
The answer may surprise you.
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A resposta igual vos sorprende.
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What is homeopathy?
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Que é a homeopatía?
12:39
It's taking a medicine that really works
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Pois é tomar unha menciña que funciona de verdade
12:41
and diluting it down
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e diluíla moito máis do límite de Avogadro.
12:43
well beyond Avogadro's limit.
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12:45
Diluting it down to the point
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Diluíla ata o punto no que
12:47
where there's none of it left. (Laughter)
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xa non queda nada.
12:50
Now folks, this is not
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Isto non é só unha metáfora, é certo o que vos digo.
12:52
just a metaphor I'm going to give you now, it's true.
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12:55
It's exactly equivalent to taking
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Isto é exactamente igual ca coller
12:57
one 325 milligram aspirin tablet,
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unha aspirina de 325 miligramos
13:01
throwing it into the middle of Lake Tahoe,
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guindala no medio do lago Tahoe
13:04
and then stirring it up, obviously with a very big stick,
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e despois remexela, obviamente cun pau ben gordo
13:07
and waiting two years or so
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e esperar uns dous anos
13:09
until the solution is homogeneous.
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ata que a solución sexa homoxénea.
13:12
Then, when you get a headache,
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Despois, cando che doia a cabeza
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you take a sip of this water, and -- voila! -- it is gone.
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bebes un grolo desta auga e, voilà! xa non che doe!
13:17
(Laughter)
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13:19
Now that is true. That is what homeopathy is all about.
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Isto é o que vén sendo a homeopatía.
13:22
And another claim that they make -- you'll love this one --
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E outra das cousas que din, esta vaivos gustar moito
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the more dilute the medicine is, they say,
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é que canto máis dilúes unha menciña
13:28
the more powerful it is.
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máis potente é.
13:30
Now wait a minute, we heard about a guy in Florida.
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Esperade, oín falar dun tipo de Florida.
13:33
The poor man, he was on homeopathic medicine.
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O pobre estaba a tomar una menciña homeopática.
13:35
He died of an overdose.
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Morreu de sobredose.
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He forgot to take his pill.
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Esqueceuse de tomar a súa menciña.
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(Laughter)
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13:41
Work on it. Work on it.
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Pensádeo, pensádeo.
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It's a ridiculous thing. It is absolutely ridiculous.
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É ridículo. Totalmente ridículo.
13:48
I don't know what we're doing,
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Non sei que facemos
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believing in all this nonsense over all these years.
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crendo nestas parvadas tanto tempo.
13:53
Now, let me tell you,
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Deixádeme que vos diga
13:55
The James Randi Educational Foundation
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que a Fundación Educativa James Randi
13:57
is waving this very big carrot,
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está ofrecendo un gran premio.
13:59
but I must say, the fact that nobody
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Tamén teño que dicir que
14:02
has taken us up on this offer
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que ninguén acepte a oferta
14:04
doesn't mean that the powers don't exist.
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non significa que eses poderes non existan.
14:06
They might, some place out there.
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Igual si, por algún lado.
14:09
Maybe these people are just independently wealthy.
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Igual esas persoas non precisan os cartos.
14:12
Well, with Sylvia Browne I would think so.
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Por exemplo, con Sylvia Browne eu pensaríao.
14:14
You know, 700 dollars for a 20 minute reading
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700 dólares por un contacto telefónico de 20 minutos
14:16
over the telephone --
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14:18
that's more than lawyers make!
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Cobra máis que un avogado!
14:21
I mean that's a fabulous amount of money.
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É unha cantidade incrible de cartos.
14:23
These people don't need the million dollars perhaps,
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Pode que esa xente non precise un millón de dólares
14:26
but wouldn't you think they'd like to take it
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pero non pensades que lles gustaría gañarnos
14:28
just to make me look silly?
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só por deixarme de parvo?
14:30
Just to get rid of this godless person out there
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Por desfacerse deste impío
14:33
that Sylvia Browne talks about all the time?
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do que Sylvia Browne fala seguido?
14:36
I think that something needs to be done about this.
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Creo que hai que facer algo en serio.
14:38
We really would love to have suggestions from you folks
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Gustaríame escoitar algunha das vosas propostas
14:41
on how to contact federal, state
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para contactar coas autoridades federais, estatais
14:44
and local authorities
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e locais
14:46
to get them to do something.
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para que fagan algo ao respecto.
14:48
If you find out -- now I understand.
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Se sabedes como... Si, xa sei
14:51
We've seen people, even today, speaking to us
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vemos xente, aínda hoxe en día, que nos fala
14:53
about AIDS epidemics
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da epidemia da SIDA,
14:55
and starving kids around the world
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de nenos morrendo de fame no mundo,
14:57
and impure water supplies that people have to suffer with.
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de xente que ten que sufrir a falla de auga potable.
15:00
Those are very important,
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Esas cuestións son moi importantes,
15:02
critically important to us.
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cruciais, incluso.
15:04
And we must do something about those problems.
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Temos que facer algo para resolvelas.
15:07
But at the same time,
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Pero ao mesmo tempo
como dixo Arthur C. Clarke:
15:09
as Arthur C. Clarke said,
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A podremia da mente humana
15:11
The rotting of the human mind,
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15:13
the business of believing in the paranormal and the occult
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o negocio de crer no paranormal e no oculto
15:15
and the supernatural --
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e o sobrenatural...
15:17
all of this total nonsense,
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En todas estas trapalladas,
15:19
this medieval thinking --
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este pensamento medieval...
15:21
I think something should be done about that,
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Hai que facer algo
15:23
and it all lies in education.
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e a solución reside na educación.
15:25
Largely, it's the media
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En gran parte, os medios de comunicación
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who are to blame for this sort of thing.
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teñen a culpa de todo isto.
15:29
They shamelessly promote
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Fomentan descaradamente
15:31
all kinds of nonsense of this sort
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todo tipo de trapalladas destas
15:33
because it pleases the sponsors.
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porque aos patrocinadores gústanlle
15:37
It's the bottom line, the dollar line.
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polo pan baila o can. O carto.
15:39
That's what they're looking at.
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Niso se fixan.
15:41
We really must do something about this.
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Temos que facer algo de verdade.
15:43
I'm willing to take your suggestions,
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Estou disposto a escoitar as vosas propostas
15:45
and I'm willing to have you
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e tamén quero que entredes na nosa web
15:47
tune in to our webpage.
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15:50
It's www.randi.org.
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É www.randi.org
15:53
Go in there and look at the archives,
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Entrade e mirade os arquivos
15:55
and you will begin to understand much more
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e comezaredes a entender moito máis
15:57
of what I've been talking about today.
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sobre o que vos contei hoxe aquí.
15:59
You will see the records that we have.
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Veredes todos os documentos que temos.
16:01
There's nothing like sitting in that library
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Non hai nada como sentarte nesa biblioteca
16:03
and having a family appear there
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e ver a historia dunha familia
16:05
and say that Mum gave away all the family fortune.
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cuxa nai regalou todos os aforros que tiñan.
16:08
She cashed in the CDs,
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Regalou os CD,
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she gave away the stocks and the certificates.
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as accións, os certificados de valores.
16:13
That's really sad to hear,
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É triste escoitalo
16:15
and it hasn't helped them one bit,
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e non lles axudou nadiña.
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hasn't solved any of their problems.
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Non solucionou ningún dos seus problemas.
16:20
Yes, there could be a rotting of the American mind,
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Pode que a mente estadounidense podreza
16:22
and of the minds all the way around the earth,
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e tamén a de todo o mundo
16:25
if we don't start to think sensibly about these things.
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se non comezamos a ser sensatos con estes temas.
16:29
Now, we've offered this carrot,
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Ofrecemos este premio
16:31
as I say, we've dangled the carrot.
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e como digo, poñémolo en bandexa.
16:33
We're waiting for the psychics to come forth and snap at it.
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Estamos esperando a que veñan médiums e nolo quiten.
16:35
Oh, we get lots of them,
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Veñen unha morea deles
16:37
hundreds of them every year come by.
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centos de persoas por ano.
16:39
These are dowsers and people
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Falabaratos e outras persoas
16:41
who think that they can talk to the dead as well,
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que pensan que poden falar cos mortos
16:43
but they're amateurs; they don't know how to evaluate
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pero son principiantes; non saben como avaliar
16:45
their own so-called powers.
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os seus supostos poderes.
16:48
The professionals never come near us,
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Os profesionais non adoitan vir onda nós
16:50
except in that case of Sylvia Browne
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coa excepción de Sylvia Browne
16:52
that I told you about a moment ago.
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da que vos falei hai un chisco.
Aceptou e logo botouse atrás.
16:55
She did accept and then backed away.
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16:58
Ladies and gentlemen,
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Donas e cabaleiros,
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I'm James Randi,
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son James Randi
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and I'm waiting.
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e estou agardando.
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Thank you.
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Grazas.
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