Homeopathy, quackery and fraud | James Randi | TED

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Good morning.

Dobro jutro.

Happy to see so many fine folks out here

Drago mi je da vidim toliko finih ljudi ovdje

and so many smiling faces.

i toliko nasmijanih lica.

I have a very peculiar

Ja imam vrlo neobičnu

background, attitude and approach

prošlost, stav i pristup

to the real world

stvarnom svijetu

because I am a conjurer.

zato što sam opsjenar.

Now, I prefer that term over magician,

Radije koristim taj termin nego čarobnjak

because if I were a magician, that would mean

jer kada bih bio čarobnjak, to bi značilo

that I use spells and incantations

da koristim čarolije i čarobne riječi

and weird gestures

i pokrete

in order to accomplish real magic.

kako bih postigao pravu magiju.

No, I don't do that; I'm a conjurer,

Ne, ja ne radim to; ja sam opsjenar,

who is someone who pretends to be

odnosno, netko tko se pretvara da je

a real magician. (Laughter)

pravi čarobnjak. (Smijeh)

Now, how do we go about that sort of thing?

Dakle, kako to radimo?

We depend on the fact

Oslanjamo se na činjenicu

that audiences, such as yourselves,

da publika, kao što ste vi,

will make assumptions.

donosi pretpostavke.

For example, when I walked up here

Na primjer, kada sam izašao ovdje

and I took the microphone from the stand

i uzeo mikrofon s postolja

and switched it on,

i uključio ga,

you assumed this was a microphone, which it is not.

vi ste pretpostavili kako je to mikrofon, a nije.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

As a matter of fact, this is something

Zapravo, ovo je nešto

that about half of you, more than half of you will not be familiar with.

s čim otprilike polovina vas, više od polovine vas nije upoznato.

It's a beard trimmer, you see?

Ovo je trimer za bradu, vidite.

And it makes a very bad microphone;

I vrlo je loš mikrofon.

I've tried it many times. (Laughter)

Isprobao sam ga mnogo puta. (Smijeh.)

The other assumption that you made --

Druga pretpostavka koju ste donijeli –

and this little lesson is to show you

a ova mala lekcija služi kako bi vam pokazala

that you will make assumptions.

da ćete donositi pretpostavke –

Not only that you can, but that you will

ne samo da možete već i da hoćete –

when they are properly suggested to you.

kada vam se nametnu na pravi način.

You believe I'm looking at you.

Vi vjerujete kako ja gledam u vas.

Wrong. I'm not looking at you. I can't see you.

Pogrešno. Ne gledam u vas. Ne mogu vas vidjeti.

I know you're out there, they told me backstage, it's a full house and such.

Znam da ste tu, rekli su mi iza pozornice, dvorana je puna i tako to.

I know you're there because I can hear you,

Znam da jeste jer vas mogu čuti,

but I can't see you because I normally wear glasses.

ali ne mogu vas vidjeti jer obično nosim naočale.

These are not glasses, these are empty frames. (Laughter)

Ovo nisu naočale, ovo je prazan okvir. (Smijeh.)

Quite empty frames.

Sasvim prazan okvir.

Now why would a grown man appear before you

Dakle, zašto bi odrastao čovjek izašao pred vas

wearing empty frames on his face?

noseći prazni okvir na licu?

To fool you, ladies and gentlemen,

Da vas prevari, dame i gospodo,

to deceive you, to show that you, too,

da vas obmane, da vam pokaže da ćete i vi

can make assumptions.

donositi pretpostavke.

Don't you ever forget that.

Nemojte to nikada zaboraviti.

Now, I have to do something -- first of all, switch to real glasses

Sada, moram nešto učiniti, kao prvo – uzeti prave naočale

so I can actually see you,

da bih vas zapravo mogao vidjeti,

which would probably be a convenience. I don't know.

što će mi vjerojatno biti olakšavajuća okolnost. Ne znam.

I haven't had a good look. Well, it's not that great a convenience.

Nisam dobro pogledao. Pa, i nije osobito olakšavajuća.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

I have to do something now, which seems

Sada moram nešto učiniti što je

a little bit strange for a magician.

pomalo neobično za mađioničara.

But I'm going to take some medication.

Ali, uzet ću neke lijekove.

This is a full bottle of

Ovo je puna bočica

Calms Forte.

Calms Fortea.

I'll explain that in just a moment.

Objasnit ću to za trenutak.

Ignore the instructions,

Ignorirajte upute.

that's what the government has to put in there

To je ono što vlada mora staviti unutra

to confuse you, I'm sure.

da vas zbuni – siguran sam.

I will take enough of these. Mm.

Uzet ću dosta ovih.

Indeed, the whole container.

Zapravo, cijelu bočicu.

Thirty-two tablets of Calms Forte.

32 tablete Calms Fortea.

Now that I've done that -- I'll explain it in a moment --

Sada kada sam to učinio, – objasnit ću to za trenutak –

I must tell you that

moram vam reći

I am an actor.

da sam ja glumac.

I'm an actor who plays a specific part.

Ja sam glumac koji igra određenu ulogu.

I play the part of a magician,

Igram ulogu mađioničara,

a wizard, if you will, a real wizard.

čarobnjaka, ako želite, pravog čarobnjaka.

If someone were to appear on this stage in front of me

Kada bi se netko pojavio na ovoj pozornici ispred mene

and actually claim to be

i tvrdio kako je zapravo

an ancient prince of Denmark named Hamlet,

drevni danski princ Hamlet,

you would be insulted

bili biste uvrijeđeni,

and rightly so.

i to s pravom.

Why would a man assume that you would believe

Zašto bi netko pretpostavio da biste povjerovali

something bizarre like this?

u nešto tako bizarno?

But there exists out there

Ali, u svijetu postoji

a very large population

velika populacija

of people who will tell you

ljudi koja će vam reći

that they have psychic, magical powers

da imaju vidovnjačke čarobne moći,

that they can predict the future,

da mogu predvidjeti budućnost,

that they can make contact with the deceased.

da mogu uspostaviti kontakt s mrtvima.

Oh, they also say

Oh, i također kažu,

they will sell you astrology

prodat će vam astrologiju

or other fortunetelling methods.

i druge metode za proricanje sudbine.

Oh, they gladly sell you that, yes.

To će vam rado prodati. Da.

And they also say

I također kažu

that they can give you perpetual motion machines

da vam mogu dati perpetuum mobile

and free energy systems.

i sustave besplatne energije.

They claim to be psychics,

Tvrde da su vidovnjaci

or sensitives, whatever they can.

ili magovi – što god mogu.

But the one thing that has made a big comeback

Ali, jedna stvar koja se uveliko vraća

just recently

tek odnedavno

is this business of

jest ova stvar

speaking with the dead.

o razgovoru s mrtvima.

Now, to my innocent mind,

Sada, mom nevinom umu,

dead implies

smrt podrazumijeva

incapable of communicating. (Laughter)

nemogućnost komunikacije. (Smijeh)

You might agree with me on that.

Možda ćete se složiti sa mnom u tome.

But these people, they tend to tell you that

Ali, ovi ljudi, oni će vam reći,

not only can they communicate with the dead --

ne samo da mogu komunicirati s mrtvima –

"Hi, there" --

"Pozdrav tamo!" –

but they can hear the dead as well,

već i da čuju mrtve

and they can relay this information back to the living.

te da mogu prenositi informacije živima.

I wonder if that's true.

Pitam se je li to istina.

I don't think so, because

Mislim da nije jer

this subculture of people

ljudi u ovoj subkulturi

use exactly the same gimmicks that we magicians do,

koriste potpuno iste trikove kao i mi mađioničari,

exactly the same --

potpuno iste

the same physical methods, the same psychological methods --

fizičke metode, iste psihološke metode.

and they effectively and profoundly

I uspješno i lukavo

deceive millions of people around the earth,

obmanjuju milijune ljudi širom svijeta

to their detriment.

na njihovu štetu.

They deceive these people,

Obmanjuju te ljude.

costs them a lot of money,

To ih košta mnogo novaca,

cost them a lot of emotional anguish.

košta ih prilične duševne boli.

Billions of dollars are spent

Milijarde dolara troše se

every year, all over the globe,

svake godine posvuda širom svijeta

on these charlatans.

na ove šarlatane.

Now, I have two questions

Dakle, ja imam dva pitanja

I would like to ask these people

koja bih htio postaviti tim ljudima

if I had the opportunity to do so.

kada bih imao priliku za to.

First question: If I want to ask them to call up --

Prvo pitanje: ako ih želim pitati da prizovu –

because they do hear them through the ear.

jer ih stvarno čuju ušima.

They listen to the spirits like this --

Slušaju duhove na taj način.

I'm going to ask you to call up the ghost of my grandmother

Pitat ću vas da prizovete duh moje bake

because, when she died, she had the family will,

jer, kada je umrla, kod nje je bila oporuka

and she secreted it someplace. We don't know where it is,

i sakrila ju je negdje. Ne znamo gdje je.

so we ask Granny, "Where is the will, Granny?"

I tako pitamo baku: "Gdje je oporuka, bako?"

What does Granny say? She says, "I'm in heaven and it's wonderful.

Što baka kaže?! Kaže: "U raju sam i divno je,

I'm here with all my old friends, my deceased friends,

ovdje sam sa starim prijateljima, mojim preminulim prijateljima

and my family

i mojom obitelji,

and all the puppy dogs and the kittens that I used to have when I was a little girl.

i svim psićima i mačkama koje sam imala kao mala.

And I love you, and I'll always be with you.

I volim vas, uvijek ću biti s vama.

Good bye."

Zbogom."

And she didn't answer the damn question!

I nije odgovorila na prokleto pitanje.

Where is the will?

Gdje je oporuka?!

Now, she could easily have said,

Mogla je lagano reći:

"Oh, it's in the library on the second shelf, behind the encyclopedia,"

"Oh, u knjižnici je na drugoj polici, iza enciklopedije."

but she doesn't say that. No, she doesn't.

Ali, to ne kaže. Ne, ne kaže.

She doesn't bring any useful information to us.

Ne daje nam nikakve korisne informacije.

We paid a lot of money for that information,

Platili smo dosta novca za tu informaciju,

be we didn't get it.

ali je nismo dobili.

The second question that I'd like to ask, rather simple:

Drugo pitanje koje bih htio postaviti prilično je jednostavno.

Suppose I ask them to contact

Recimo da ih pitam da stupe u kontakt

the spirit of my deceased father-in-law, as an example.

s duhom mog preminulog svekra, na primjer.

Why do they insist on saying --

Zašto uporno govore –

remember, they speak into this ear --

sjetite se, oni mu pričaju u uho –

why do they say, "My name starts with J or M?"

zašto kažu: "Moje ime počinje sa J ili M?"

Is this a hunting game?

Je li to igra nagađanja?

Hunting and fishing? What is it?

Nagađanja i pogađanja? Što je to?

Is it 20 questions? No, it's more like 120 questions.

Je li to s 20 pitanja? Ne, prije će biti 120 pitanja.

But it is a cruel, vicious,

Ali, to je okrutna opaka

absolutely conscienceless --

i potpuno nesavjesna –

I'll be all right, keep your seats (Laughter) --

bit ću dobro, nemojte ustajati (Smijeh) –

game that these people play.

igra koju ti ljudi igraju.

And they take advantage of the innocent, the naive,

I koriste nevine, naivne,

the grieving, the needy people out there.

ožalošćene siromašne ljude u svijetu.

Now, this is a process

Dakle, to je proces

that is called cold reading.

koji se zove hladno čitanje.

There's one fellow out there,

Ima jedan momak –

Van Praagh is his name, James Van Praagh.

zove se Van Praagh, James Van Praagh.

He's one of the big practitioners of this sort of thing.

On je jedan od velikih praktikanata ove stvari.

John Edward, Sylvia Browne

John Edward, Sylvia Browne

and Rosemary Altea, they are other operators.

i Rosemary Altea, oni su neki drugi.

There are hundreds of them all over the earth, but in this country,

Ima ih na stotine širom planete, ali u ovoj zemlji

James Van Praagh is very big.

James Van Praagh jako je poznat.

And what does he do? He likes to tell you

I što on radi? On vam voli pričati

how the deceased got deceased,

kako su preminuli postali preminuli,

the people he's talking to through his ear, you see?

odnosno ljudi koje čuje ušima.

So what he says is, very often, is like this: he says,

I ono što vrlo često kaže je ovo:

"He tells me, he tells me, before he passed,

"Kaže mi, kaže mi, da je prije smrti

that he had trouble breathing."

imao problema s disanjem"

Folks, that's what dying is all about!

Ljudi, to je poanta umiranja.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

You stop breathing, and then you're dead.

Prestanete disati i onda ste mrtvi.

It's that simple.

Sasvim jednostavno.

And that's the kind of information they're going to bring back to you?

I takve će vam informacije prenijeti?

I don't think so.

Ne bih rekao.

Now, these people will make guesses, they'll say things like,

E sada, ti ljudi će nagađati. Reći će, na primjer:

"Why am I getting electricity?

"Zašto čujem nešto o struji?

He's saying to me, 'Electricity.'

Govori mi: 'Struja.'

Was he an electrician?" "No."

Je li bio električar?" Ne.

"Did he ever have an electric razor?" "No."

"Je li ikada imao brijač na struju?" Ne.

It was a game of hunting questions like this.

To je igra pogađanja s ovakvim pitanjima.

This is what they go through.

To je ono što oni rade.

Now, folks often ask us

Ljudi nas često pitaju,

at the James Randi Educational Foundation,

u Fondu za obrazovanje Jamesa Randija,

they call me, they say, "Why are you so concerned about this, Mr. Randi?

pozovu me i kažu: "Zašto se toliko brinete oko toga, gospodine Randi?

Isn't it just a lot of fun?"

Nije li to sve jako zabavno?"

No, it is not fun. It is a cruel farce.

Ne, nije zabavno. To je okrutna farsa.

Now, it may bring a certain amount of comfort,

Možda će vam dati izvjesnu utjehu,

but that comfort lasts

ali ta utjeha traje

only about 20 minutes or so.

samo 20-ak minuta.

And then the people look in the mirror, and they say,

I onda ljudi pogledaju u ogledalo i kažu:

I just paid a lot of money for that reading.

"Upravo sam platio dosta novaca za to čitanje.

And what did she say to me? 'I love you!'"

I što mi je rekla? 'Volim te!'"

They always say that.

Uvijek to kažu.

They don't get any information,

Ne dobijaju nikakve informacije,

they don't get any value for what they spend.

nikakvu vrijednost za ono što potroše.

Now, Sylvia Browne is the big operator.

Sylvia Browne je krupna riba.

We call her "The Talons."

Zovemo je 'Kandža'.

Sylvia Browne -- thank you --

Sylvia Browne – hvala –

Sylvia Browne is the big operator

Sylvia Browne je krupna riba

in this field at this very moment.

u ovom poslu trenutno.

Now, Sylvia Browne -- just to show you --

Sylvia Browne – čisto da znate –

she actually gets 700 dollars

zaradi 700 dolara

for a 20 minute reading over the telephone,

za čitanje od 20 minuta preko telefona.

she doesn't even go there in person,

Ne mora ni biti negdje osobno.

and you have to wait up to two years because

I morate čekati dvije godine jer je

she's booked ahead that amount of time.

rezervirana unaprijed u tom razdoblju.

You pay by credit card or whatever,

Plaćate kreditnom karticom, ili kako već,

and then she will call you

i onda će vas ona nazvati

sometime in the next two years.

nekada u naredne dvije godine.

You can tell it's her. "Hello, this is Sylvia Browne."

Znate da je ona. "Zdravo, ovdje Sylvia Browne."

That's her, you can tell right away.

To je ona. Odmah možete pogoditi.

Now, Montel Williams is an intelligent man.

E sada, Montel Williams je inteligentan čovjek.

We all know who he is on television.

Svi znamo tko je on na televiziji.

He's well educated, he's smart,

Obrazovan je. Pametan.

he knows what Sylvia Browne is doing

On zna da je to što Sylvia Browne radi pogrešno,

but he doesn't give a damn.

ali ga briga za to.

He just doesn't care.

Jednostavno ne mari

Because, the bottom line is, the sponsors love it,

jer, naposljetku, sponzorima se to sviđa

and he will expose her

i on će je stalno izlagati

to television publicity all the time.

televizijskoj publici.

Now, what does Sylvia Browne give you for that 700 dollars?

Dakle, što vam Sylvia Browne daje za tih 700 dolara?

She gives you the names of your guardian angels, that's first.

Daje vam ime vašeg anđela čuvara, kao prvo.

Now, without that, how could we possibly function? (Laughter)

Bez toga, kako biste živjeli? (Smijeh)

She gives you the names of previous lives,

Daje vam imena prethodnih života,

who you were in previous lives.

tko ste bili u prethodnom životu.

Duh.

Ma da.

It turns out that the women

Izgleda da su sve žene

that she gives readings for

bile babilonske

were all Babylonian princesses, or something like that.

princeze, ili tako nešto.

And the men were all Grecian warriors

I svi muškarci bili su grčki ratnici

fighting with Agamemnon.

koji su se borili s Agamemnonom.

Nothing is ever said about

Nikada nema

a 14 year-old bootblack in the streets of London

14-ogodišnjeg čistača cipela s ulica Londona

who died of consumption.

koji je umro od tuberkuloze.

He isn't worth bringing back, obviously.

On očito nije vrijedan spomena.

And the strange thing -- folks, you may have noticed this too.

I još jedna čudna stvar, ljudi – možda ste primijetili –

You see these folks on television --

gledate te ljude na televiziji –

they never call anybody back from hell. (Laughter)

i nikada ne prizovu nikog iz pakla. (Smijeh)

Everyone comes back from heaven, but never from hell.

Svi se vraćaju iz raja, ali nikada iz pakla.

If they call back any of my friends,

Kada bi prizvali nekog mog prijatelja,

they're not going to... Well, you see the story.

neće... Pa, shvaćate što vam želim reći.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Now, Sylvia Browne is an exception,

Dakle, Sylvia Browne je izuzetak,

an exception in one way,

izuzetak zbog jedne stvari

because the James Randi Educational Foundation, my foundation,

jer Fond za obrazovanje Jamesa Randija, moj fond,

offers a one million dollar prize in negotiable bonds.

nudi nagradu od milijun dolara putem obveznica.

Very simply won.

Nagrada se lako dobiva.

All you have to do is prove any paranormal, occult

Potrebno je samo, pod prikladnim uvjetima

or supernatural event or power of any kind

za promatranje, dokazati neki paranormalni okultni

under proper observing conditions.

ili natprirodni događaj bilo kakve prirode.

It's very easy, win the million dollars.

Vrlo je lako – osvojite milijun dolara!

Sylvia Browne is an exception in that

Sylvia Browne je izuzetak

she's the only professional psychic

jer je ona jedini profesionalni vidovnjak

in the whole world

iz cijelog svijeta

that has accepted our challenge.

koji je prihvatio naš izazov.

She did this on the "Larry King Live" show on CNN

Učinila je to u emisiji Larryja Kinga na CNN-u

six and a half years ago.

prije šest i pol godina.

And we haven't heard from her since. Strange.

I od tada nam se nije javljala. Čudno.

She said that, first of all, that she didn't know how to contact me.

Rekla je, kao prvo, da nije znala kako kontaktirati sa mnom.

Duh.

Ma da.

A professional psychic who speaks to dead people,

Profesionalni vidovnjak koji razgovara s mrtvima

she can't reach me?

ne može mene naći?

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

I'm alive, you may have noticed.

Živ sam – možda ste primijetili.

Well, pretty well anyway.

Zdrav, prilično zdrav u svakom slučaju.

She couldn't reach me. Now she says she doesn't want to reach me

Nije mogla kontaktirati sa mnom. Sada kaže da neće kontaktirati sa mnom

because I'm a godless person.

jer sam nevjernik.

All the more reason to take the million dollars,

Još veći razlog da uzmeš milijun dolara,

wouldn't you think, Sylvia?

zar ne misliš, Sylvia?

Now these people need to be stopped, seriously now.

Te ljude treba zaustaviti – sada sam ozbiljan.

They need to be stopped because this is a cruel farce.

Treba ih zaustaviti jer je ovo okrutna farsa.

We get people coming to the foundation all the time.

Ljudi nam stalno dolaze u fond.

They're ruined financially and emotionally

Uništeni su i financijski i emotivno

because they've given their money and their faith

jer su povjerili svoj novac i vjeru

to these people.

tim ljudima.

Now, I popped some pills earlier.

Ja sam popio neke pilule ranije.

I have to explain that to you.

Moram vam to objasniti.

Homeopathy, let's find out what that's all about.

Homeopatija – idemo saznati o čemu se tu radi.

Hmm. You've heard of it.

Hmm. Čuli ste za to.

It's an alternative form of healing, right?

To je alternativni način liječenja.

Homeopathy actually consists -- and that's what this is.

Homeopatija se zapravo sastoji – a to je ovo.

This is Calms Forte,

Ovo je Calms Forte,

32 caplets of sleeping pills! I forgot to tell you that.

32 tablete za spavanje! Zaboravio sam vam to reći.

I just ingested

Upravo sam popio

six and a half days worth of sleeping pills.

dozu tableta za spavanje dovoljnu za šest i po dana.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Six and a half days, that certainly is a fatal dose.

Šest i pol dana – to je sigurno smrtonosna doza.

It says right on the back here,

Piše ovdje otraga –

"In case of overdose,

"U slučaju predoziranja,

contact your poison control center immediately,"

odmah pozovite centar za kontrolu trovanja,"

and it gives an 800 number.

i dali su 0800 broj telefona.

Keep your seats -- it's going to be okay.

Nemojte ustajati. Bit ću dobro.

I don't really need it

Nisu mi zapravo potrebni

because I've been doing this stunt

zato što radim ovaj trik

for audiences all over the world

s publikom širom svijeta

for the last eight or 10 years,

zadnjih osam ili deset godina –

taking fatal doses of homeopathic sleeping pills.

uzimam smrtonosne doze homeopatskih tableta za spavanje.

Why don't they affect me?

Zašto ne utječu na mene?

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

The answer may surprise you.

Odgovor će vas možda iznenaditi.

What is homeopathy?

Što je homeopatija?

It's taking a medicine that really works

To je kada uzmete lijek koji stvarno djeluje

and diluting it down

i razradite ga na

well beyond Avogadro's limit.

mnogo više od Avogadrove granice.

Diluting it down to the point

Razradite ga dok

where there's none of it left. (Laughter)

od njega ništa ne ostane. (Smijeh)

Now folks, this is not

Ljudi, ovo što ću vam reći

just a metaphor I'm going to give you now, it's true.

nije samo metafora – istina je.

It's exactly equivalent to taking

To je potpuno isto kao da ste uzeli

one 325 milligram aspirin tablet,

tabletu aspirina od 325 miligrama,

throwing it into the middle of Lake Tahoe,

bacili je usred jezera Taho

and then stirring it up, obviously with a very big stick,

i onda promiješali, naravno, jako velikim štapom

and waiting two years or so

i čekali dvije godine

until the solution is homogeneous.

dok otopina ne postane homogena.

Then, when you get a headache,

Onda, kada imate glavobolju,

you take a sip of this water, and -- voila! -- it is gone.

uzmete gutljaj te vode – i eto, nestala je!

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Now that is true. That is what homeopathy is all about.

To je istina. To je bit homeopatije.

And another claim that they make -- you'll love this one --

Ima još jedna stvar koju govore – ovo će vam se svidjeti –

the more dilute the medicine is, they say,

što je lijek razrjeđeniji, kažu,

the more powerful it is.

to je moćniji.

Now wait a minute, we heard about a guy in Florida.

Čekajte malo, čuli smo za jednog tipa na Floridi.

The poor man, he was on homeopathic medicine.

Siroti čovjek. Uzimao je homeopatske lijekove.

He died of an overdose.

Umro je od predoziranja.

He forgot to take his pill.

Zaboravio je popiti lijek.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Work on it. Work on it.

Razmislite o tome. Razmislite.

It's a ridiculous thing. It is absolutely ridiculous.

To je besmisleno. Potpuno besmisleno.

I don't know what we're doing,

Ne znam zašto

believing in all this nonsense over all these years.

vjerujemo u sve te gluposti svih ovih godina.

Now, let me tell you,

E sad, dopustite da vam kažem –

The James Randi Educational Foundation

Fond za obrazovanje Jamesa Randija

is waving this very big carrot,

maše ovom velikom nagradom,

but I must say, the fact that nobody

ali, moram reći, da to što nitko

has taken us up on this offer

nije pristao na ovu ponudu

doesn't mean that the powers don't exist.

ne znači da te moći ne postoje.

They might, some place out there.

Možda postoje, negdje u svijetu.

Maybe these people are just independently wealthy.

Možda su ovi ljudi samo vrlo bogati.

Well, with Sylvia Browne I would think so.

Pa, na osnovu Sylvije Browne, rekao bih da je tako.

You know, 700 dollars for a 20 minute reading

Znate, 700 dolara za čitanje od 20 minuta

over the telephone --

preko telefona –

that's more than lawyers make!

to je više nego što odvjetnici zarađuju.

I mean that's a fabulous amount of money.

Hoću reći da je to ogromna količina novca.

These people don't need the million dollars perhaps,

Možda tim ljudima ne treba milijun dolara,

but wouldn't you think they'd like to take it

ali zar ne mislite da bi htjeli da ih uzmu

just to make me look silly?

samo da od mene naprave budalu?

Just to get rid of this godless person out there

Samo da se riješe tog nevjernika

that Sylvia Browne talks about all the time?

o kojem Sylvia Browne stalno priča?

I think that something needs to be done about this.

Mislim da se nešto mora poduzeti oko toga.

We really would love to have suggestions from you folks

Zaista, voljeli bismo čuti vaše prijedloge

on how to contact federal, state

kako kontaktirati s federalnim, državnim

and local authorities

i lokalnim vlastima

to get them to do something.

i natjerati ih da nešto poduzmu.

If you find out -- now I understand.

Ako saznate – sada mi je jasno –

We've seen people, even today, speaking to us

ljudi nam čak i danas govore

about AIDS epidemics

o epidemiji SIDA-e

and starving kids around the world

i djeci koja gladuju širom svijeta

and impure water supplies that people have to suffer with.

i zagađenim zalihama vode s kojima se ljudi muče.

Those are very important,

Te stvari su nam vrlo važne,

critically important to us.

one su od ključne važnosti.

And we must do something about those problems.

I moramo nešto poduzeti u vezi s tim problemima.

But at the same time,

Ali, u isto vrijeme...

as Arthur C. Clarke said,

kao što je Arthur C. Clark govorio, znate:

The rotting of the human mind,

"Trunjenje ljudskog uma."

the business of believing in the paranormal and the occult

Vjerovanje u paranormalno i okultno

and the supernatural --

i natprirodno,

all of this total nonsense,

sve te potpune gluposti,

this medieval thinking --

to srednjovjekovno razmišljanje.

I think something should be done about that,

Mislim da se nešto treba učiniti protiv toga

and it all lies in education.

i sve to ovisi o obrazovanju.

Largely, it's the media

Mediji su, uglavnom,

who are to blame for this sort of thing.

krivi za te stvari.

They shamelessly promote

Oni besramno promoviraju

all kinds of nonsense of this sort

svakakve gluposti te vrste

because it pleases the sponsors.

zato što su sponzori zadovoljni.

It's the bottom line, the dollar line.

Na to se svodi – na novac.

That's what they're looking at.

To je ono što je njima bitno.

We really must do something about this.

Zaista moramo učiniti nešto oko toga.

I'm willing to take your suggestions,

Rado ću prihvatiti vaše prijedloge

and I'm willing to have you

i volio bih da se

tune in to our webpage.

prijavite na našu internet stranicu.

It's www.randi.org.

www.randi.org.

Go in there and look at the archives,

Otiđite tamo i pogledajte arhive

and you will begin to understand much more

i saznat ćete puno više

of what I've been talking about today.

o ovome o čemu sam vam pričao.

You will see the records that we have.

Vidjet ćete kakve zapise imamo.

There's nothing like sitting in that library

Ništa nije ljepše nego kad nam se u knjižnici

and having a family appear there

pojavi obitelj

and say that Mum gave away all the family fortune.

koja kaže kako je majka dala cijelo obiteljsko bogatstvo.

She cashed in the CDs,

Kupila je sve diskove,

she gave away the stocks and the certificates.

dala je sve akcije i njihove certifikate.

That's really sad to hear,

Zaista je to tužno slušati.

and it hasn't helped them one bit,

I sve to nije im nimalo pomoglo,

hasn't solved any of their problems.

nije im riješilo niti jedan problem.

Yes, there could be a rotting of the American mind,

Da, američki um će možda zaista propasti

and of the minds all the way around the earth,

kao i svi umovi širom svijeta

if we don't start to think sensibly about these things.

ako ne počnemo razumno razmišljati o ovim stvarima.

Now, we've offered this carrot,

Dakle, ponudili smo ovu nagradu,

as I say, we've dangled the carrot.

kao što sam rekao – mašemo njome.

We're waiting for the psychics to come forth and snap at it.

Čekamo vidovnjake da dođu i uzmu je.

Oh, we get lots of them,

Mnogo njih dolazi,

hundreds of them every year come by.

stotine njih svake godine.

These are dowsers and people

To su lovci na blago

who think that they can talk to the dead as well,

i ljudi koji također misle da mogu pričati s mrtvima,

but they're amateurs; they don't know how to evaluate

ali to su amateri – ne znaju kako da ocijene vlastite

their own so-called powers.

takozvane moći.

The professionals never come near us,

Profesionalci nam se nikada ne približavaju –

except in that case of Sylvia Browne

osim onog slučaja sa Sylvijom Browne

that I told you about a moment ago.

o kojem sam vam pričao.

She did accept and then backed away.

Ona je pristala i onda se povukla.

Ladies and gentlemen,

Dame i gospodo,

I'm James Randi,

ja sam James Randi

and I'm waiting.

i čekam.

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)