Elliot Krane: The mystery of chronic pain

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Translator: Noelia Samartin Veiga Reviewer: Serv. de Norm. Lingüística U. de Santiago de Compostela
Son pediatra e anestesista,
polo que gaño a vida durmindo nenos.
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I'm a pediatrician and an anesthesiologist,
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(Risas)
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so I put children to sleep for a living.
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Tamén son académico, polo que durmo ao público de balde.
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(Laughter)
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And I'm an academic, so I put audiences to sleep for free.
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(Risas)
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(Laughter)
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Pero en realidade dedícome
a levar a Unidade de Dor
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But what I actually mostly do
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is I manage the pain management service
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no Hospital Infantil Packard en Stanford, Palo Alto.
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at the Packard Children's Hospital up at Stanford in Palo Alto.
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E coa experiencia
de 20 ou 25 anos traballando nisto
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And it's from the experience
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tráiovos unha mensaxe esta mañá:
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from about 20 or 25 years of doing that
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a dor é unha enfermidade.
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that I want to bring to you the message this morning,
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that pain is a disease.
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Xeralmente,
pénsase na dor coma no síntoma dunha patoloxía
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Now most of the time,
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e isto é certo a maioría das veces.
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you think of pain as a symptom of a disease,
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É o síntoma dun tumor, dunha infección,
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and that's true most of the time.
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00:49
It's the symptom of a tumor or an infection
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dunha inflamación ou dunha cirurxía.
Pero en arredor do 10% dos casos,
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or an inflammation or an operation.
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os pacientes seguirán padecendo dor
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But about 10 percent of the time,
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despois de recuperarse da enfermidade.
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after the patient has recovered from one of those events,
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Pode persistir meses,
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pain persists.
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e, ás veces, anos.
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It persists for months
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Cando sucede isto,
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and oftentimes for years,
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a dor é unha enfermidade por si mesma.
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and when that happens,
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Antes de que vos conte como cremos que sucede isto,
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it is its own disease.
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01:10
And before I tell you about how it is that we think that happens
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e qué podemos facer ó respecto,
quixera mostrarvos como senten a dor os meus pacientes.
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and what we can do about it,
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01:15
I want to show you how it feels for my patients.
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Imaxinade, se podedes,
que vos acaricio o brazo con esta pluma,
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So imagine, if you will,
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como estou acariciando o meu neste intre.
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that I'm stroking your arm with this feather,
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as I'm stroking my arm right now.
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Agora quero que imaxinedes
que o estou acariciando con isto.
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Now, I want you to imagine
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Por favor, ficade nos asentos.
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that I'm stroking it with this.
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(Risas)
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Please keep your seat.
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01:31
(Laughter)
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Unha sensación moi diferente.
Pero, que ten que ver isto coa dor crónica?
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A very different feeling.
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Now what does it have to do with chronic pain?
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Imaxinade, se queredes, as dúas ideas xuntas.
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Imagine, if you will, these two ideas together.
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Imaxinade como sería a vosa vida
se vos acariciasen con esta pluma,
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Imagine what your life would be like
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pero os vosos cerebros vos din
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if I were to stroke it with this feather,
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que o que están sentindo é isto:
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but your brain was telling you
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esta é a experiencia dos meus pacientes con dor crónica.
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that this is what you are feeling --
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and that is the experience of my patients with chronic pain.
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De feito, imaxinade algo aínda peor.
Imaxinade que estou acariciando o brazo dun fillo voso con esta pluma
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In fact, imagine something even worse.
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01:54
Imagine I were to stroke your child's arm with this feather,
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e o seu cerebro dille
que o que sente é esta chama.
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and their brain [was] telling them
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that they were feeling this hot torch.
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Esta era a vivencia de Chandler, unha paciente miña
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That was the experience of my patient, Chandler,
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á que vedes na foto.
Como podedes ver, é unha rapaza fermosa.
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whom you see in the photograph.
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Tiña 16 anos cando a coñecín o ano pasado,
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As you can see, she's a beautiful, young woman.
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E quería ser bailarina profesional.
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She was 16 years old last year when I met her,
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02:10
and she aspired to be a professional dancer.
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Durante un dos seus ensaios de baile,
caeu co brazo estendido e torceu o pulso.
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And during the course of one of her dance rehearsals,
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she fell on her outstretched arm and sprained her wrist.
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Probablemente pensedes, igual ca fixo ela,
que una torcedura de pulso é trivial
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Now you would probably imagine, as she did,
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na vida dunha persoa.
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that a wrist sprain is a trivial event
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Envólvese cunha venda elástica,
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in a person's life.
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Tómase ibuprofeno 1 ou 2 semanas
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Wrap it in an ACE bandage,
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e fin da historia.
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take some ibuprofen for a week or two,
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Pero no caso de Chandler, este foi o inicio da historia.
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and that's the end of the story.
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02:30
But in Chandler's case, that was the beginning of the story.
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Esta era a pinta do seu brazo
cando veu á clínica tres meses despois da torcedura.
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This is what her arm looked like
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when she came to my clinic about three months after her sprain.
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Fixádevos que o brazo ten a cor alterada,
como denegrida.
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You can see that the arm is discolored,
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Estaba frío coma o dun cadáver.
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purplish in color.
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Os músculos estaban xeados, paralizados
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It was cadaverically cold to the touch.
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--como nós dicimos, distónicos.
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The muscles were frozen, paralyzed --
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02:47
dystonic is how we refer to that.
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A dor estendérase dende o pulso cara á man
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The pain had spread from her wrist to her hands,
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e as puntas dos dedos, e cara ó cóbado.
chegando case ó ombreiro.
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to her fingertips, from her wrist up to her elbow,
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Pero o peor non era
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almost all the way to her shoulder.
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a dor espontánea que sentía as 24 horas do día.
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But the worst part was,
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not the spontaneous pain that was there 24 hours a day.
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O peor era a alodinia,
un termo médico usado para o fenómeno que antes expliquei
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The worst part was that she had allodynia,
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coa pluma e a chama.
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the medical term for the phenomenon that I just illustrated
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O máis leve contacto no brazo
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with the feather and with the torch.
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--o rozamento dunha man,
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The lightest touch of her arm --
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mesmo o contacto dunha manga, dunha prenda ao poñela--
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the touch of a hand,
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causáballe unha dor insoportable, moi ardente.
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the touch even of a sleeve, of a garment, as she put it on --
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caused excruciating, burning pain.
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Como pode o sistema nervioso equivocarse dese xeito?
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How can the nervous system get this so wrong?
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Como pode o sistema nervioso
confundir una sensación inocente
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How can the nervous system
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como o tacto dunha man
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misinterpret an innocent sensation
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e convertela nunha sensación tan maligna
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like the touch of a hand
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03:31
and turn it into the malevolent sensation
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como o contacto cunha chama?
Ben, se cadra pensades que o sistema nervioso
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of the touch of the flame?
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03:36
Well you probably imagine that the nervous system in the body
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é como a cablaxe da vosa casa.
Nela os cables pasan polas paredes
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is hardwired like your house.
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dende o interruptor da luz, a unha caixa de conexións no teito
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In your house, wires run in the wall,
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from the light switch to a junction box in the ceiling
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e dende aí ata a lámpada.
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and from the junction box to the light bulb.
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Cando se calca no interruptor, acéndese a luz.
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And when you turn the switch on, the light goes on.
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E cando se pecha, a luz apágase.
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And when you turn the switch off, the light goes off.
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A xente imaxina que o sistema nervioso funciona así.
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So people imagine the nervous system is just like that.
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Se pegas cun martelo no polgar,
estes cables do brazo --chamados nervios--
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If you hit your thumb with a hammer,
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transmiten a información á caixa de conexións na medula espiñal
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these wires in your arm -- that, of course, we call nerves --
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onde novos cables, novos nervios,
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transmit the information into the junction box in the spinal cord
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levan a información ata o cerebro,
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where new wires, new nerves,
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que é cando te das conta de que magoaches o polgar.
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take the information up to the brain
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where you become consciously aware that your thumb is now hurt.
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Por suposto, a situación no corpo humano
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But the situation, of course, in the human body
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é moito máis complexa.
Poderíase pensar
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is far more complicated than that.
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que a caixa de conexións na medula espiñal
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Instead of it being the case
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é só onde un nervio conecta co seguinte
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that that junction box in the spinal cord
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liberando paquetiños marróns
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is just simple where one nerve connects with the next nerve
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de información química que chamamos neurotransmisores
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by releasing these little brown packets
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de forma linear un a un;
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of chemical information called neurotransmitters
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pero en realidade o que sucede
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in a linear one-on-one fashion,
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é que se esparexen en tres dimensións
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in fact, what happens
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--lateralmente, verticalmente, arriba e abaixo na medula espiñal--
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is the neurotransmitters spill out in three dimensions --
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laterally, vertically, up and down in the spinal cord --
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e comezan a interactuar
con outras células adxacentes.
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and they start interacting
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Estas células, chamadas gliais,
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with other adjacent cells.
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antes pensábase que eran
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These cells, called glial cells,
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elementos estruturais pouco importantes da medula espiñal
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were once thought to be
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que non tiñan máis función ca a de unir os elementos importantes,
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unimportant structural elements of the spinal cord
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that did nothing more than hold all the important things together,
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como os nervios.
Pero a verdade é que
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like the nerves.
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a glía xoga un papel vital
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But it turns out
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na modulación, amplificación
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the glial cells have a vital role
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e, no caso da dor, na distorsión
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in the modulation, amplification
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and, in the case of pain, the distortion
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das experiencias sensoriais.
Estas células gliais actívanse.
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of sensory experiences.
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O seu ADN sintetiza novas proteínas
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These glial cells become activated.
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que se liberan
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Their DNA starts to synthesize new proteins,
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e interactúan cos nervios adxacentes,
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which spill out
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e comezan a liberar os seus neurotransmisores.
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and interact with adjacent nerves,
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E estes esparéxense,
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and they start releasing their neurotransmitters,
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activan células gliais adxacentes, e así sucesivamente,
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and those neurotransmitters spill out
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ata que se produza
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and activate adjacent glial cells, and so on and so forth,
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unha retroalimentación positiva.
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until what we have
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É case como se alguén fora á vosa casa
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is a positive feedback loop.
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e cambiara a cablaxe das paredes,
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It's almost as if somebody came into your home
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de modo que a seguinte vez que acendedes a luz
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and rewired your walls
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funcionara a cadea do WC tres portas máis alá,
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so that the next time you turned on the light switch,
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ou o lavalouza acendera só
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the toilet flushed three doors down,
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ou se apagara o monitor do ordenador.
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or your dishwasher went on,
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É unha loucura,
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or your computer monitor turned off.
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pero de feito, iso é o que sucede
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That's crazy,
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coa dor crónica.
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but that's, in fact, what happens
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E por iso a dor convértese nunha enfermidade por si mesma.
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with chronic pain.
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O sistema nervioso ten plasticidade.
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And that's why pain becomes its own disease.
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Cambia e transfórmase
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The nervous system has plasticity.
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en resposta ós estímulos.
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It changes, and it morphs
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E que facemos ó respecto?
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in response to stimuli.
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Que podemos facer nun caso como o de Chandler?
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Well, what do we do about that?
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Hoxe en día tratamos eses pacientes
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What can we do in a case like Chandler's?
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de forma bastante rudimentaria.
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We treat these patients in a rather crude fashion
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Tratámolos con fármacos modificadores dos síntomas
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at this point in time.
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We treat them with symptom-modifying drugs --
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--analxésicos--
que verdadeiramente non son moi eficaces
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painkillers --
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para este tipo de dor.
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which are, frankly, not very effective
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Collemos nervios que son ruidosos e activos
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for this kind of pain.
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que deberían estar en silencio,
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We take nerves that are noisy and active
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e adormecémolos con analxésicos locais.
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that should be quiet,
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E o máis importante que facemos
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and we put them to sleep with local anesthetics.
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é usar un rigoroso, e a miúdo incómodo proceso
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And most importantly, what we do
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06:22
is we use a rigorous, and often uncomfortable, process
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de terapia física e terapia ocupacional
co fin de reeducar os nervios no sistema nervioso
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of physical therapy and occupational therapy
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para que teñan unha resposta normal
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to retrain the nerves in the nervous system
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ás actividades e experiencias sensoriais
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to respond normally
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que forman parte da vida cotiá.
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to the activities and sensory experiences
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E apoiamos todo isto
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that are part of everyday life.
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cun programa de psicoterapia intensiva
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And we support all of that
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para enfrontar o desánimo, a desesperación e a depresión
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with an intensive psychotherapy program
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06:45
to address the despondency, despair and depression
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que acompañan sempre
á dor crónica severa.
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that always accompanies
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É exitoso,
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severe, chronic pain.
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como se pode ver neste vídeo de Chandler
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It's successful,
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quen, dous meses despois de coñecela,
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as you can see from this video of Chandler,
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está facendo unha viravolta para atrás.
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who, two months after we first met her,
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Onte comín con ela,
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is now doings a back flip.
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porque é unha estudante universitaria de danza en Long Beach,
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And I had lunch with her yesterday
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todo lle está indo moi ben.
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because she's a college student studying dance at Long Beach here,
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Pero o futuro é incluso máis brillante.
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and she's doing absolutely fantastic.
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07:07
But the future is actually even brighter.
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O futuro promete
que os novos medicamentos que se desenvolverán
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The future holds the promise
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non serán fármacos modificadores da sintomatoloxía
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that new drugs will be developed
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que simplemente agachan o problema,
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that are not symptom-modifying drugs
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como facemos agora,
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that simply mask the problem,
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senón que serán fármacos modificadores da enfermidade
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as we have now,
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07:23
but that will be disease-modifying drugs
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que realmente actuarán na raíz do problema
e atacarán ás células gliais
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that will actually go right to the root of the problem
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ou a esas proteínas prexudiciais
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and attack those glial cells,
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que as células gliais elaboran,
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or those pernicious proteins
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esparexéndose e provocando no sistema nervioso a sensibilización
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that the glial cells elaborate,
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07:35
that spill over and cause this central nervous system wind-up,
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ou plasticidade,
que é capaz
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or plasticity,
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de distorsionar e amplificar
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that so is capable
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a experiencia sensorial coñecida como dor.
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of distorting and amplifying
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Así, esperamos
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the sensory experience that we call pain.
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que no futuro
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So I have hope
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se cumpran as palabras proféticas de George Carlin
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that in the future,
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the prophetic words of George Carlin will be realized,
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que dicía: "A miña filosofía:
non hai dor, non hai dor"
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who said, "My philosophy:
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07:55
No pain, no pain."
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(Risas)
Moitas grazas.
(Aplausos)
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Thank you very much.
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08:01
(Applause)
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