Elliot Krane: The mystery of chronic pain

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Translator: Chitmin Ng Reviewer: Ana Choi
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I'm a pediatrician and an anesthesiologist,
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我係一名小兒科醫師亦係麻醉師,
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so I put children to sleep for a living.
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我靠催眠D細路賺錢謀生。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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And I'm an academic, so I put audiences to sleep for free.
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我仲係一名學者,我可以唔使錢催眠聽眾。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:28
But what I actually mostly do
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但事實上我最做得最多嘅
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is I manage the pain management service
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係喺帕洛阿爾托市斯坦福帕卡德兒童醫院
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at the Packard Children's Hospital up at Stanford in Palo Alto.
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進行痛楚管理。
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And it's from the experience
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喺果度嘅
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from about 20 or 25 years of doing that
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有20至25年經驗
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that I want to bring to you the message this morning,
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今日我想話比你地聽,
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that pain is a disease.
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痛楚係一種疾病。
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Now most of the time,
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大多数情况,
00:45
you think of pain as a symptom of a disease,
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你將痛楚睇成疾病嘅一種症狀。
00:47
and that's true most of the time.
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好多時候都係啱嘅。
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It's the symptom of a tumor or an infection
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佢可以係腫瘤或某種感染
00:52
or an inflammation or an operation.
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或者係某種炎症亦或者係手術嘅症狀。
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But about 10 percent of the time,
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但係有大概10%嘅情况,
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after the patient has recovered from one of those events,
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患者從以上所講嘅情況恢復之後,
01:00
pain persists.
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痛楚仍然持續。
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It persists for months
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而且持續好幾個月,
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and oftentimes for years,
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好多時仲係幾年。
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and when that happens,
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哩種情況發生果陣,
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it is its own disease.
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佢就係疾病。
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And before I tell you about how it is that we think that happens
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喺我講比你地聽佢點樣產生之前
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and what we can do about it,
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以及我地可以點做之前,
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I want to show you how it feels for my patients.
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我想同你地講下我D病人嘅感受。
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So imagine, if you will,
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如果可以,請你地想像一吓,
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that I'm stroking your arm with this feather,
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我用哩條羽毛掃你你嘅手臂,
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as I'm stroking my arm right now.
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就好似兒家我就掃緊自己。
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Now, I want you to imagine
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請你地兒家開​​始想像吓
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that I'm stroking it with this.
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我用佢掃過哩度。
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Please keep your seat.
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大家坐好D啊
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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A very different feeling.
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好唔同嘅感覺。
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Now what does it have to do with chronic pain?
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咁樣同慢性痛楚有咩關係呢?
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Imagine, if you will, these two ideas together.
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想像吓,如果你將哩兩個想法混埋一齊。
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Imagine what your life would be like
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想像你嘅生活會系點
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if I were to stroke it with this feather,
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如果我用羽毛掃過呢度,
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but your brain was telling you
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但係你嘅大腦會話比你聽
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that this is what you are feeling --
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哩個就係你嘅感覺
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and that is the experience of my patients with chronic pain.
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哩個就係我哥個慢性痛楚病人嘅經歷。
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In fact, imagine something even worse.
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事實上,試想像某些更壞嘅事情。
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Imagine I were to stroke your child's arm with this feather,
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想像我用羽毛掃過你細路嘅手臂,
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and their brain [was] telling them
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佢地嘅大腦會話比佢地聽
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that they were feeling this hot torch.
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佢地感覺到哩把高溫火焰。
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That was the experience of my patient, Chandler,
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哩個就係我個病人Chandler嘅經歷,
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whom you see in the photograph.
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哩張係佢幅相。
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As you can see, she's a beautiful, young woman.
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你地見到佢係一個靚女。
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She was 16 years old last year when I met her,
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我識佢果陣佢先至16歲,
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and she aspired to be a professional dancer.
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佢渴望成為一位職業舞蹈員。
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And during the course of one of her dance rehearsals,
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喺佢一次舞蹈排練嘅過程中,
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she fell on her outstretched arm and sprained her wrist.
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佢跌親壓住咗伸出嘅手臂,跟住扭親埋手腕
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Now you would probably imagine, as she did,
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兒家你地大概可以想象就好似佢感,
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that a wrist sprain is a trivial event
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扭傷手腕喺人生中
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in a person's life.
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只不過係件小事。
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Wrap it in an ACE bandage,
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只需用ACE繃帶包紮吓,
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take some ibuprofen for a week or two,
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只食一到兩個星期嘅布洛芬止痛藥,
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and that's the end of the story.
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就無乜事喇。
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But in Chandler's case, that was the beginning of the story.
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不過喺Chandler嘅病例中,服藥只係故事嘅開始。
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This is what her arm looked like
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哩個係佢手臂嘅樣
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when she came to my clinic about three months after her sprain.
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佢扭傷咗大概3個星期後先來穩我。
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You can see that the arm is discolored,
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你地可以睇到佢嘅手臂,
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purplish in color.
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已經褪色同埋發紫。
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It was cadaverically cold to the touch.
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摸上去好似屍體咁凍。
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The muscles were frozen, paralyzed --
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肌肉僵硬、麻痹、
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dystonic is how we refer to that.
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張力障礙。
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The pain had spread from her wrist to her hands,
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痛楚從腕部擴展到手,
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to her fingertips, from her wrist up to her elbow,
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再到手指,痛楚從手腕擴展到肘部,
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almost all the way to her shoulder.
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甚至幾乎到左肩部。
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But the worst part was,
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最惨嘅係,
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not the spontaneous pain that was there 24 hours a day.
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並唔係自發嘅整日痛楚。
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The worst part was that she had allodynia,
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最慘嘅系佢掂下野就會痛,
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the medical term for the phenomenon that I just illustrated
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醫學上叫觸痛
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with the feather and with the torch.
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同剛才羽毛、高溫火焰一樣。
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The lightest touch of her arm --
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輕輕觸摸佢嘅手臂、
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the touch of a hand,
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手,
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the touch even of a sleeve, of a garment, as she put it on --
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甚至係衣袖
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caused excruciating, burning pain.
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都會引發劇烈的、燒灼般嘅痛苦。
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How can the nervous system get this so wrong?
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神經系統系點解會錯成咁樣?
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How can the nervous system
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點解神經系統
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misinterpret an innocent sensation
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誤解咗一個無辜嘅知覺
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like the touch of a hand
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就好似摸佢隻手
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and turn it into the malevolent sensation
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會變成惡毒嘅知覺
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of the touch of the flame?
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火焰燒灼般嘅觸覺。
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Well you probably imagine that the nervous system in the body
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你大概可以想像機體中嘅神經系統
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is hardwired like your house.
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就好似你屋企裡面嘅導​​線。
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In your house, wires run in the wall,
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在屋企裡面,導線佈滿牆壁,
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from the light switch to a junction box in the ceiling
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從開關制到天花板嘅連接盒
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and from the junction box to the light bulb.
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從連接盒到燈泡。
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And when you turn the switch on, the light goes on.
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當你開開關制,燈就著。
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And when you turn the switch off, the light goes off.
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當你關閉開關制,燈就熄。
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So people imagine the nervous system is just like that.
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就用咁嘅方式想像神經系統。
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If you hit your thumb with a hammer,
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如果一個錘打傷你嘅手指,
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these wires in your arm -- that, of course, we call nerves --
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你手臂嘅導線,當然,我地稱為神經
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transmit the information into the junction box in the spinal cord
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將信息傳入脊髓裡面嘅連接盒
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where new wires, new nerves,
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脊髓入面嘅新嘅線路、新嘅神經,
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take the information up to the brain
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將信息上傳到大腦
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where you become consciously aware that your thumb is now hurt.
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你意識到你嘅手指受咗傷。
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But the situation, of course, in the human body
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不過在哩種情況下,當然,在人體內
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is far more complicated than that.
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要比哩個複雜好多。
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Instead of it being the case
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並唔係甘純粹
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that that junction box in the spinal cord
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連接盒在脊髓入邊
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is just simple where one nerve connects with the next nerve
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神經之間嘅聯繫非常簡單
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by releasing these little brown packets
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通過釋放哩D棕色包裹
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of chemical information called neurotransmitters
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內涵化學信息,我地叫佢做神經遞質
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in a linear one-on-one fashion,
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線性一一傳導信息,
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in fact, what happens
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事實上,
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is the neurotransmitters spill out in three dimensions --
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神經遞質嘅釋放在三維空間裡進行
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laterally, vertically, up and down in the spinal cord --
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脊髓入面:橫向,縱向,垂直
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and they start interacting
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佢地開始與相連嘅細胞
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with other adjacent cells.
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相互作用
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These cells, called glial cells,
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哩D細胞叫做膠質細胞,
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were once thought to be
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之前被認為係
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unimportant structural elements of the spinal cord
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脊髓中最唔重要嘅結構元素
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that did nothing more than hold all the important things together,
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除咗幫助所有重要嘅好似神經細胞甘嘅物質
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like the nerves.
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聚合在一齊之外,無其他用途。
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But it turns out
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不過其實
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the glial cells have a vital role
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膠質細胞扮演著一個重要角色
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in the modulation, amplification
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在調製,放大
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and, in the case of pain, the distortion
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同埋痛楚、扭曲
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of sensory experiences.
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嘅感覺體驗入邊,
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These glial cells become activated.
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哩D膠質細胞被激活
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Their DNA starts to synthesize new proteins,
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佢地嘅DNA開始合成
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which spill out
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新蛋白跟住釋放出来。
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and interact with adjacent nerves,
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同相連嘅神經相互作用,
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and they start releasing their neurotransmitters,
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佢地開始釋放神經遞質
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and those neurotransmitters spill out
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果D神經遞質釋放出去
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and activate adjacent glial cells, and so on and so forth,
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激活相連嘅膠質細胞,一直持續向前,
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until what we have
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直到找到
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is a positive feedback loop.
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一個確定嘅反饋迴路。
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It's almost as if somebody came into your home
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就好似有人来到你屋企
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and rewired your walls
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重新在牆上拉線,
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so that the next time you turned on the light switch,
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跟住下一次你開燈哥陣,
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the toilet flushed three doors down,
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馬桶開始自動沖洗,
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or your dishwasher went on,
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或者係你嘅洗碗機開咗,
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or your computer monitor turned off.
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或者係你嘅電腦屏幕開咗。
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That's crazy,
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太瘋狂了,
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but that's, in fact, what happens
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但實際上就係咁 ——
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with chronic pain.
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慢性痛楚嘅情况。
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And that's why pain becomes its own disease.
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也就係由痛楚變成疾病嘅原因。
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The nervous system has plasticity.
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神經系統有可塑性,
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It changes, and it morphs
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佢會改變,會變換
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in response to stimuli.
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作為刺激嘅回應。
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Well, what do we do about that?
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好,咁我地打算點做呢?
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What can we do in a case like Chandler's?
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Chandler嘅病例我地可以點做?
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We treat these patients in a rather crude fashion
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目前我地對於哩D患者嘅治療方法
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at this point in time.
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仲停留在非常粗糙嘅階段。
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We treat them with symptom-modifying drugs --
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我地用可以改變症狀嘅藥物來治療佢地
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painkillers --
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止痛药
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which are, frankly, not very effective
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講真,對於哩類痛楚來講
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for this kind of pain.
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唔係特別有效。
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We take nerves that are noisy and active
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對於本來安靜但係現在
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that should be quiet,
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亢奮過度嘅神經,
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and we put them to sleep with local anesthetics.
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我地用局部麻醉方式令到佢地休眠。
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And most importantly, what we do
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最重要嘅係,我地所做嘅
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is we use a rigorous, and often uncomfortable, process
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係用一個嚴格嘅進程,通常並唔咁係舒服嘅
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of physical therapy and occupational therapy
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物理治療同職業療法
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to retrain the nerves in the nervous system
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喺神經系統入面重新訓練神經
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to respond normally
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使到能正常應答
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to the activities and sensory experiences
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尤其係果D日常生活嘅所有
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that are part of everyday life.
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正常活動同感覺體驗。
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And we support all of that
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我地全力支持
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with an intensive psychotherapy program
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用密集嘅心裡療法計劃
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to address the despondency, despair and depression
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打擊嚴重慢性痛楚所引起嘅
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that always accompanies
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失望、绝望、
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severe, chronic pain.
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憂慮症狀。
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It's successful,
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Chandler嘅病例係成功嘅,
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as you can see from this video of Chandler,
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你地睇到嘅視頻来自Chandler,
06:56
who, two months after we first met her,
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兩個月後嘅现在,
06:58
is now doings a back flip.
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正在進行後翻身跳轉。
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And I had lunch with her yesterday
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我我昨天同佢一齊吃午餐,
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because she's a college student studying dance at Long Beach here,
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因為佢喺在長灘市嘅大學學習舞蹈。
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and she's doing absolutely fantastic.
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佢表演得太好了。
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But the future is actually even brighter.
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未來會更加精彩。
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The future holds the promise
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未來將承諾
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that new drugs will be developed
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新藥將會發展
07:16
that are not symptom-modifying drugs
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成唔係症狀控制嘅藥物
07:19
that simply mask the problem,
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我地現在哩D藥物,
07:21
as we have now,
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太輕易地掩飾痛楚。
07:23
but that will be disease-modifying drugs
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但係改變症狀嘅藥物
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that will actually go right to the root of the problem
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將會真正瞄準問題嘅本源
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and attack those glial cells,
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攻擊果D會擴張神經膠質細胞
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or those pernicious proteins
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產生有害蛋白
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that the glial cells elaborate,
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有害嘅蛋白,
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that spill over and cause this central nervous system wind-up,
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佢地嘅釋放會終結可塑嘅
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or plasticity,
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樞神經系統,
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that so is capable
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咁樣就可以扭曲同放大
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of distorting and amplifying
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感覺體驗嘅能力
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the sensory experience that we call pain.
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我地稱之為痛楚。
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So I have hope
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所以我希望
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that in the future,
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在未来,
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the prophetic words of George Carlin will be realized,
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George Carlin嘅预言可以被咁樣理解,
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who said, "My philosophy:
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佢話:我嘅哲學:
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No pain, no pain."
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“唔痛,唔痛”
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Thank you very much.
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多谢大家
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(Applause)
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