Elliot Krane: The mystery of chronic pain

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Prevoditelj: Jelena Horvat Recezent: Veronika Rasic
00:15
I'm a pediatrician and an anesthesiologist,
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Pedijatar sam i anesteziolog,
00:17
so I put children to sleep for a living.
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dakle, zarađujem za život stavljajući djecu na spavanje.
00:19
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
00:21
And I'm an academic, so I put audiences to sleep for free.
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Ja sam i akademik, dakle publiku uspavljujem besplatno.
00:24
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
00:28
But what I actually mostly do
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No ono čime se najviše bavim
00:30
is I manage the pain management service
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je da vodim odjel za upravljanje bolom
00:32
at the Packard Children's Hospital up at Stanford in Palo Alto.
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u Packard dječjoj bolnici kod Stanforda u Palo Altu.
00:35
And it's from the experience
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Iz iskustva
00:37
from about 20 or 25 years of doing that
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dugog 20 ili 25 godina, koliko se već time bavim,
00:39
that I want to bring to you the message this morning,
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ovog vam jutra želim prenijeti poruku
00:41
that pain is a disease.
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da je bol zapravo bolest.
00:43
Now most of the time,
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Sada većinu vremena
00:45
you think of pain as a symptom of a disease,
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mislite o bolu kao simptomu bolesti.
00:47
and that's true most of the time.
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To je uglavnom točno.
00:49
It's the symptom of a tumor or an infection
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Ona je simptom tumora ili infekcije,
00:52
or an inflammation or an operation.
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ili upale, ili operacije.
00:54
But about 10 percent of the time,
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No oko 10 posto vremena
00:57
after the patient has recovered from one of those events,
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nakon što se pacijent oporavio od nekog od navedenih događaja
01:00
pain persists.
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bol ne popušta.
01:02
It persists for months
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Ustraje mjesecima
01:04
and oftentimes for years,
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a vrlo često i godinama.
01:06
and when that happens,
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A kad se to dogodi,
01:08
it is its own disease.
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ono postaje bolest sama za sebe.
01:10
And before I tell you about how it is that we think that happens
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I prije nego što vam kažem kako mislimo da se to događa
01:13
and what we can do about it,
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i što možemo u vezi toga učiniti
01:15
I want to show you how it feels for my patients.
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želim vam pokazati kako se osjećaju moji pacijenti.
01:18
So imagine, if you will,
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Zamislite, ako želite
01:20
that I'm stroking your arm with this feather,
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da vam milujem ruku ovim perom
01:22
as I'm stroking my arm right now.
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kao što to upravo činim
01:25
Now, I want you to imagine
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Sada želim da zamislite
01:27
that I'm stroking it with this.
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da je milujem ovim.
01:29
Please keep your seat.
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Molim vas ostanite na mjestu.
01:31
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
01:33
A very different feeling.
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Prilično drugačiji osjećaj.
01:35
Now what does it have to do with chronic pain?
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No kakve to veze ima s kronično boli?
01:37
Imagine, if you will, these two ideas together.
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Zamislite, ako želite, ove dvije ideje zajedno.
01:40
Imagine what your life would be like
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Zamislite kakav bi vam život bio
01:42
if I were to stroke it with this feather,
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da vas milujem ovim perom,
01:45
but your brain was telling you
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ali vaš vam mozak govori
01:47
that this is what you are feeling --
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da je ovo ono što osjećate --
01:49
and that is the experience of my patients with chronic pain.
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i upravo je to ono što osjećaju moji pacijenti.
01:52
In fact, imagine something even worse.
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Zamislite zapravo štogod još gore.
01:54
Imagine I were to stroke your child's arm with this feather,
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Zamislite da milujem dječju ruku ovim perom.
01:57
and their brain [was] telling them
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a njihov mozak im govori
01:59
that they were feeling this hot torch.
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da osjećaju ovu vruću baklju.
02:02
That was the experience of my patient, Chandler,
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Takvo je bilo iskustvo moje pacijentice, Chandler,
02:04
whom you see in the photograph.
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koju vidite na fotografiji.
02:06
As you can see, she's a beautiful, young woman.
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I kao što možete vidjeti ona je lijepa, mlada žena.
02:08
She was 16 years old last year when I met her,
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Imala je 16 godina prošle godine kad sam je upoznao,
02:10
and she aspired to be a professional dancer.
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željela je postati profesionalna plesačica.
02:13
And during the course of one of her dance rehearsals,
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I tijekom jedne od plesnih proba
02:15
she fell on her outstretched arm and sprained her wrist.
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pala je na ispruženu ruku i uganula zglob.
02:18
Now you would probably imagine, as she did,
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Vjerojatno biste pomislili, kao što je i ona,
02:20
that a wrist sprain is a trivial event
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da je uganuće zgloba trivijalan događaj
02:22
in a person's life.
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u životu svake osobe.
02:24
Wrap it in an ACE bandage,
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Učvrstite zglob elastičnim zavojem
02:26
take some ibuprofen for a week or two,
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uzimajte ibuprofen tjedan ili dva
02:28
and that's the end of the story.
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i to je kraj priče.
02:30
But in Chandler's case, that was the beginning of the story.
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No u Chandlerinom slučaju bio je to tek početak priče.
02:34
This is what her arm looked like
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Ovako je izgledala njena ruka
02:36
when she came to my clinic about three months after her sprain.
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kad je došla u moju kliniku tri mjeseca nakon uganuća.
02:39
You can see that the arm is discolored,
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Možete vidjeti da je ruka obezbojena,
02:41
purplish in color.
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purpurne boje.
02:43
It was cadaverically cold to the touch.
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Bila je mrtvački hladna na dodir.
02:45
The muscles were frozen, paralyzed --
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Mišići su bili smrznuti, paralizirani --
02:47
dystonic is how we refer to that.
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distonija je kako to nazivamo.
02:50
The pain had spread from her wrist to her hands,
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Bol se proširio sa zgloba na ruku
02:53
to her fingertips, from her wrist up to her elbow,
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do prstiju, od zgloba do lakta
02:56
almost all the way to her shoulder.
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gotovo sve do ramena.
02:58
But the worst part was,
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Ali najgori dio nije bio
03:00
not the spontaneous pain that was there 24 hours a day.
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spontana bol koji je trajala 24 sata na dan.
03:03
The worst part was that she had allodynia,
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Najgori dio bio je da je imala alodiniju,
03:06
the medical term for the phenomenon that I just illustrated
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medicinski termin za fenomen koji sam upravo ilustrirao
03:09
with the feather and with the torch.
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s perom i s bakljom.
03:11
The lightest touch of her arm --
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Najlakši dodir na njenoj ruci --
03:13
the touch of a hand,
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dodir ruke,
03:15
the touch even of a sleeve, of a garment, as she put it on --
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čak dodir rukava, odjeće, koju je nosila --
03:18
caused excruciating, burning pain.
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uzrokovao je iznimno jake, goruće bolove.
03:22
How can the nervous system get this so wrong?
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Kako može živčani sustav tako pogriješiti?
03:25
How can the nervous system
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Kako živčani sustav može
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misinterpret an innocent sensation
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pogrešno interpretirati nevini osjećaj
03:29
like the touch of a hand
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kao što je to dodir ruke
03:31
and turn it into the malevolent sensation
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i pretvoriti ga u zlonamjeran osjećaj
03:34
of the touch of the flame?
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dodira baklje.
03:36
Well you probably imagine that the nervous system in the body
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Pa vjerojatno zamišljate da je živčani sustav u tijelu
03:39
is hardwired like your house.
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umrežen kao što je to vaša kuća.
03:41
In your house, wires run in the wall,
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U vašoj kući žice idu u zid,
03:43
from the light switch to a junction box in the ceiling
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od prekidača do razvodne kutije u stropu
03:46
and from the junction box to the light bulb.
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i od razvodne kutije do žarulje.
03:49
And when you turn the switch on, the light goes on.
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I kad pritisnete prekidač, upali se svjetlo.
03:51
And when you turn the switch off, the light goes off.
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I kad ga opet pritisnete, svjetlo se gasi.
03:54
So people imagine the nervous system is just like that.
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Ljudi zamišljaju da je i živčani sustav upravo takav.
03:58
If you hit your thumb with a hammer,
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Ako se udarite čekićem po palcu,
04:00
these wires in your arm -- that, of course, we call nerves --
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te žice u vašoj ruci -- koje, naravno, zovemo živci --
04:03
transmit the information into the junction box in the spinal cord
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prenose informaciju do razvodne kutije
04:06
where new wires, new nerves,
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gdje nove žice, novi živci,
04:08
take the information up to the brain
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prenose informaciju do mozga
04:10
where you become consciously aware that your thumb is now hurt.
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gdje postajete svjesni da je palac ozlijeđen.
04:14
But the situation, of course, in the human body
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No situacija, naravno, u ljudskom tijelu
04:16
is far more complicated than that.
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je mnogo kompliciranija od toga.
04:19
Instead of it being the case
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Umjesto toga
04:21
that that junction box in the spinal cord
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da je razvodna kutija u leđnoj moždini
04:23
is just simple where one nerve connects with the next nerve
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samo jednostavno mjesto gdje se jedan živac povezuje s drugim
04:26
by releasing these little brown packets
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oslobađanjem malih smeđih paketa
04:28
of chemical information called neurotransmitters
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kemijskih informacija zvanih neurotransmiteri
04:31
in a linear one-on-one fashion,
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na linearan jedan na jedan način,
04:34
in fact, what happens
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ono što se zapravo događa
04:36
is the neurotransmitters spill out in three dimensions --
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je da se neurotransmiteri prospu u tri dimenzije --
04:38
laterally, vertically, up and down in the spinal cord --
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bočno, okomito, gore i dolje u leđnoj moždini --
04:41
and they start interacting
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i počnu međudjelovati
04:43
with other adjacent cells.
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s drugim susjednim stanicama.
04:46
These cells, called glial cells,
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Te stanice, zvane glijalne stanice,
04:48
were once thought to be
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nekoć su se smatrale
04:50
unimportant structural elements of the spinal cord
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nevažnim strukturnim elementima leđne moždine
04:52
that did nothing more than hold all the important things together,
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koji ne rade ništa drugo nego drže važne stvari zajedno,
04:54
like the nerves.
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kao što su živci.
04:56
But it turns out
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No ispada
04:58
the glial cells have a vital role
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da glijalne stanice imaju vitalnu ulogu
05:00
in the modulation, amplification
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u modulaciji, pojačavanju
05:02
and, in the case of pain, the distortion
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i, u slučaju bola, iskrivljenju
05:05
of sensory experiences.
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osjetilnih iskustava.
05:08
These glial cells become activated.
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Te se glijalne stanice aktiviraju.
05:10
Their DNA starts to synthesize new proteins,
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Njihov DNA počinje sintetizirati nove proteine,
05:12
which spill out
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koji se prospu
05:14
and interact with adjacent nerves,
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i reagiraju s susjednim živcima.
05:16
and they start releasing their neurotransmitters,
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I oni počinju oslobađati njihove neurotransmitere.
05:19
and those neurotransmitters spill out
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I ti neurotransmiteri se prospu
05:21
and activate adjacent glial cells, and so on and so forth,
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i aktiviraju susjedne glijalne stanice, i tako dalje, i dalje,
05:24
until what we have
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sve dok ne nastane
05:26
is a positive feedback loop.
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pozitivnu povratnu petlju.
05:28
It's almost as if somebody came into your home
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To je otprilike kao kad bi netko ušao u vašu kuću
05:30
and rewired your walls
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i ponovno postavio žice u zidovima
05:32
so that the next time you turned on the light switch,
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i to tako da se kad sljedeći put upalite svjetlo
05:34
the toilet flushed three doors down,
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ispere toalet tri vrata niže
05:36
or your dishwasher went on,
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ili da se upali stroj za pranje suđa,
05:38
or your computer monitor turned off.
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ili ugasi kompjuterski monitor.
05:40
That's crazy,
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To je suludo,
05:42
but that's, in fact, what happens
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ali to je upravo ono što se događa
05:44
with chronic pain.
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s kroničnom boli.
05:46
And that's why pain becomes its own disease.
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I zbog toga bol postaje bolest sama po sebi.
05:49
The nervous system has plasticity.
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Živčani sustav je plastičan.
05:51
It changes, and it morphs
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Mijenja se i oblikuje se
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in response to stimuli.
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kao odgovor na podražaj.
05:55
Well, what do we do about that?
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Dobro, što ćemo učiniti u vezi toga?
05:57
What can we do in a case like Chandler's?
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Što možemo učiniti u slučaju kao što je Chandlerin?
06:00
We treat these patients in a rather crude fashion
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Liječimo te bolesnike na prilično sirov način
06:02
at this point in time.
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u ovom trenutku.
06:04
We treat them with symptom-modifying drugs --
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Liječimo ih lijekovima koji uklanjaju simptome --
06:07
painkillers --
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lijekovima protiv bolova --
06:09
which are, frankly, not very effective
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koji, iskreno, nisu veoma učinkoviti
06:11
for this kind of pain.
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za ovu vrstu boli.
06:13
We take nerves that are noisy and active
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Uzimamo živce koji su bučni i aktivni,
06:15
that should be quiet,
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a trebali bi biti mirni,
06:17
and we put them to sleep with local anesthetics.
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i uspavljujemo ih lokalnom anestezijom.
06:19
And most importantly, what we do
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I najvažnije što radimo
06:22
is we use a rigorous, and often uncomfortable, process
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je da koristimo krut, i često neugodan, proces
06:26
of physical therapy and occupational therapy
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fizikalne i radne terapije
06:29
to retrain the nerves in the nervous system
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da bismo naučilii živce u živčanom sustavu
06:32
to respond normally
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da odgovaraju normalno
06:35
to the activities and sensory experiences
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na aktivnosti i osjetilna iskustva
06:38
that are part of everyday life.
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koja su dio svakodnevice.
06:40
And we support all of that
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I sve to podržavamo
06:42
with an intensive psychotherapy program
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intenzivnim programom psihoterapije
06:45
to address the despondency, despair and depression
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zbog malodušnosti, očaja i depresije
06:48
that always accompanies
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koji uvijek prate
06:50
severe, chronic pain.
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jaku, kroničnu bol.
06:52
It's successful,
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To je uspješno,
06:54
as you can see from this video of Chandler,
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kao što možete vidjeti na ovom Chandlerinom videu
06:56
who, two months after we first met her,
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koja dva mjeseca nakon našeg prvog susreta,
06:58
is now doings a back flip.
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sada izvodi kolut unazad.
07:00
And I had lunch with her yesterday
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Ručao sam s njom jučer
07:02
because she's a college student studying dance at Long Beach here,
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zato jer studira ples ovdje na Long Beachu.
07:05
and she's doing absolutely fantastic.
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I izvrsno se osjeća.
07:07
But the future is actually even brighter.
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Budućnost je zapravo još svjetlija.
07:11
The future holds the promise
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Budućnost nam pruža nadu
07:14
that new drugs will be developed
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da će biti otkriveni novi lijekovi
07:16
that are not symptom-modifying drugs
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koje neće uklanjati samo simptome
07:19
that simply mask the problem,
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koji jednostavno maskiraju problem.
07:21
as we have now,
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kao što imamo sada,
07:23
but that will be disease-modifying drugs
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nego da će postojati lijekovi koji uklanjaju bolest
07:26
that will actually go right to the root of the problem
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koji će zapravo ići do korijena problema
07:28
and attack those glial cells,
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i napasti te glijalne stanice
07:30
or those pernicious proteins
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ili štetne proteine
07:32
that the glial cells elaborate,
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koje stvaraju glijalne stanice,
07:35
that spill over and cause this central nervous system wind-up,
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koje se prospu i uzrokuju paralizu središnjeg živčanog sustava,
07:38
or plasticity,
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ili plastičnost,
07:40
that so is capable
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koja može
07:42
of distorting and amplifying
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iskriviti i pojačati
07:44
the sensory experience that we call pain.
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osjetilno iskustvo koje nazivamo bol.
07:46
So I have hope
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Pa se nadam
07:48
that in the future,
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da će ubuduće
07:50
the prophetic words of George Carlin will be realized,
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proročanske riječi Georga Carlina biti ostvarene.
07:53
who said, "My philosophy:
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koji je rekao: "Moja filozofija?
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No pain, no pain."
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Bez boli, bez boli.
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Thank you very much.
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Mnogo vam hvala.
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