An Interview with ESTHER about Teaching English

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
Welcome to another edition of Speak English fluently.
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Speak English fluently์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฒ„์ „์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:03
I'm your host, Steve Hatherly.
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์ €๋Š” ํ˜ธ์ŠคํŠธ์ธ Steve Hatherly์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:06
My guest today is quite the celebrity in the English education field.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋‚ด ์†๋‹˜์€ ์˜์–ด ๊ต์œก ๋ถ„์•ผ์˜ ๊ฝค ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
00:11
She started teaching English in Korea way back in 2008 after studying psychology for
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ํ•™์‚ฌ ๊ณผ์ • ์—์„œ ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌํ•™์„ ์ „๊ณตํ•œ ํ›„ 2008๋…„์— ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
00:18
her undergraduate degree.
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00:20
And now she's actually studying to be a therapist.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์น˜๋ฃŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:22
We will talk about that a little bit today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:25
She is the top English teacher for Shaw Education.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” Shaw Education์˜ ์ตœ๊ณ  ์˜์–ด ๊ต์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:28
She has over, I think if we count correctly, 160 videos on the website now.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์— 160๊ฐœ์˜ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:34
Although that number might be a little bit higher, we'd have to count more accurately.
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๊ทธ ์ˆซ์ž๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋†’์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ณ„์‚ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:38
Those videos are there for your viewing pleasure and your education pleasure, of course.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋Š” ์‹œ์ฒญ์˜ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€๊ณผ ๊ต์œก์˜ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์กด์žฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:43
She covers grammar, vocabulary, listening and conversation in her videos.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋น„๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•, ์–ดํœ˜, ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฃน๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:48
And we will have a conversation today.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:51
Welcome Esther, should I say Ester sonsangnim, Esther teacher, Miss Esther?
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์—์Šค๋”๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘๊ฒŒ ๋งž์•„์š”, ์—์Šค๋” ์†์ƒ๋‹˜, ์—์Šค๋” ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜, ์—์Šค๋” ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
00:55
Welcome regardless to Speak English Fluently.
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Speak English Fluently์— ๊ด€๊ณ„์—†์ด ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:59
Thank you so much for having me, Steve.
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์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
01:01
And you can call me Esther.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋ฅผ ์—์Šค๋”๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด์…”๋„ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:02
That's totally fine.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:04
Very good.
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๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€.
01:05
Well, thank you once again for joining today.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:06
OK, so let's talk about your career then.
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์ข‹์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์— โ€‹โ€‹๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค.
01:10
You are from the United States, and you are currently residing in the United States.
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๊ท€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์™”์œผ๋ฉฐ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ๊ฑฐ์ฃผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:15
You studied psychology in school.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌํ•™์„ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:18
Did you move to Korea after university in America or was there a time period between?
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋Œ€ํ•™์„ ์กธ์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ•œ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์ฃผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
01:25
Actually, I moved to Korea right after I graduated from university.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ•™์„ ์กธ์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋กœ ํ•œ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์™”์–ด์š”.
01:30
Itโ€™s a funny story.
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์›ƒ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:32
I was supposed to go there for a 15-day graduation trip and ended up staying for 9 years.
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15์ผ๊ฐ„์˜ ์กธ์—…์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ 9๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ €๋‹ค.
01:39
So pretty much right after I graduated.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์กธ์—… ์งํ›„์—์š”.
01:41
Let'sโ€ฆ yeah, I mean everybody was surprised and yeah, it'sโ€ฆ it was a wonderful time
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ํ•˜์ž... ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋†€๋ž๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๊ฑด... ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„
01:47
there.
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๋ณด๋ƒˆ์–ด.
01:48
That's such a common story though, isn't it?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํ”ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ฃ ?
01:50
You know, people move to Korea and then the plan is to stay for a short time.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•œ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์ฃผํ•œ ํ›„ ์งง์€ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋จธ๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๊ณ„ํš์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:56
But they end up staying for a long time.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๋จธ๋ฌผ๊ฒŒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:59
People fall in love with Korea, don't they?
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•œ๊ตญ๊ณผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์— ๋น ์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
02:01
Yes, and I miss it so much.
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๋„ค, ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›Œ์š”.
02:03
I can't wait to go back and visit sometime in the near future, and I've heard countless
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๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์‹œ์ผ ๋‚ด์— ๊ผญ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ , ์ˆ˜์—†์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ณ 
02:08
stories and have many friends who had similar experiences.
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๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:12
When you moved to Korea, did you have plans of teaching English?
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ํ•œ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์ฃผํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น  ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
02:17
I guess not, because you were only planning on being here for a couple of weeks.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ๋งŒ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์„ ๊ณ„ํš์ด์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:23
That's correct.
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๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
I had a friend from college who lived in Korea and was studying abroad in the US when we
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ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ์‚ด๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์œ ํ•™ ์ค‘์ธ ๋Œ€ํ•™ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ
02:30
met, and she heard of a job opportunity, asked me if I'd be interested in interviewing, and
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๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์ทจ์—… ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๋ฉด์ ‘ ๋ณผ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋Š๋ƒ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋”๋‹ˆ
02:36
I got the job.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ํ•ฉ๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:37
And that's how I ended up staying for a lot longer than I had ever planned.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ„ํšํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๋จธ๋ฌผ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:41
Wow, so what made you interested in teaching English then?
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์™€์šฐ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์ผ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ณ„๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
02:46
Because it came to you very suddenly, I guess in in your life, right?
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ‘์ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์ฐพ์•„์™”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
02:51
Yeah, I have always really enjoyed working with young people and children.
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์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ Š์€์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ฆ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:57
When I was young, I wanted to be a teacher or an artist, but I think my teaching abilities
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์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ต์‚ฌ๋‚˜ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
03:03
outโ€ฆ outwayโ€ฆ are stronger than my artistic abilities, although I am very creative.
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, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ๋‚ด ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์  ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋”โ€ฆ
03:12
So yeah, Iโ€ฆ
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์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š”...
03:13
I have always been interested in teaching and this opportunity did fall in my lap and
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์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ต์œก์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ด ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์ œ ๋ฌด๋ฆŽ์— ๋–จ์–ด์กŒ๊ณ 
03:19
I took the opportunity.
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๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์žก์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:22
I guess I seized the opportunity and never looked back.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์žก์•˜๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๋’ค๋Œ์•„๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค.
03:26
Carpe Diem moment for you.
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ Carpe Diem ์ˆœ๊ฐ„.
03:29
So how did you become involved with Shaw education?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ Shaw ๊ต์œก์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
03:33
Um, so between teaching jobs, I had taken a little bit of a break to go back and visit
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์Œ, ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์ผ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:40
my family.
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.
03:42
And when I came back to Korea, I didn't have another job lined up.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ๋Œ์•„์™”์„ ๋•Œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง์—…์ด ์ค€๋น„๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:46
And so I was looking.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
I wanted to do some part time jobs or some tutoring jobs.
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์•„๋ฅด๋ฐ”์ดํŠธ๋‚˜ ๊ณผ์™ธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š”
03:51
I was looking for some jobs that would give me a little bit more freedom than working
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ํ•™์›์ด๋‚˜ ์˜์–ด ๊ธฐ๊ด€์ด๋‚˜ ์•„์นด๋ฐ๋ฏธ์—์„œ
03:55
at the kind of typical hagwon or English institution or Academy.
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์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์ž์œ ๋ฅผ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ง์—…์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
04:02
And so I wasโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”โ€ฆ
04:03
I was tutoring.
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๊ฐœ์ธ๊ณผ์™ธ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:04
I was doing part time work, doing some research and development for some hagwons, and then
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์•„๋ฅด๋ฐ”์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ํ•™์›์—์„œ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๋˜ ์ค‘
04:09
I came across an ad from Shaw English, looking for teachers to shoot some videos teaching
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Shaw English์—์„œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•  ๊ต์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:17
English.
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.
04:18
And I thought I'd give it a shot.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹œ๋„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:19
So another opportunity that just fell on my lap.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ๋ฌด๋ฆŽ์— ๋–จ์–ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:22
I'm curious to know where you saw the advertisement, because that's exactly how I came to Korea
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์ €๋„ ์›๋ž˜ ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ์˜ค๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด์„œ ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋””์„œ ๋ณด์…จ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:28
originally as well.
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.
04:30
It was a really small advertisement in the bottom right corner of the newspaper that
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์‹ ๋ฌธ ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ ํ•˜๋‹จ
04:37
said teach English in Korea.
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์— ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋ผ๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ์ž‘์€ ๊ด‘๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:38
So where was your Shaw Education advertisement?
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Shaw Education ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋Š” ์–ด๋””์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
04:41
I want to know.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค.
04:43
That's a funny story.
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์›ƒ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:44
Well, my, uh, the ad that I saw was on Craigslist, I believe so, yeah, very funny 'cause I don't
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์Œ, ์ œ, ์–ด, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋Š” Craigslist์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ๋งค์šฐ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ์ €๋Š”
04:51
really know anybody who used Craigslist in Korea maybe.
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ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ Craigslist๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:55
So I just got very lucky I guess.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ์šด์ด ์ข‹์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
04:58
Yeah, maybe to buy a sofa or something like that, but not to start this amazingly successful,
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์˜ˆ, ์†ŒํŒŒ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋†€๋ž๋„๋ก ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ
05:04
you know, online English education career.
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์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์˜์–ด ๊ต์œก ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:07
That's a very rare story.
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์•„์ฃผ ๋“œ๋ฌธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:09
Exactly.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
05:10
What year was that that you got started with Shaw?
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๋ช‡ ๋…„๋„์— Shaw๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
05:13
I believe that was 2012.
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2012๋…„์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:15
OK, so it's been quite a long time, then, that you've been making videos for Shaw education.
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์ž, Shaw ๊ต์œก์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ œ์ž‘ํ•œ ์ง€ ๊ฝค ์˜ค๋ž˜๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:23
You did that while you were here in Korea, but after moving back to the United States,
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ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋„ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ๋’ค์—๋„
05:28
you continued working with Shaw.
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์‡ผ์™€ ๊ณ„์† ์ผํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
05:31
Was that in the plans orโ€ฆ because usually when people leave Korea, they kind of leave
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ณ„ํš์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š” ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด... ๋ณดํ†ต ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•œ๊ตญ์„ ๋– ๋‚  ๋•Œ
05:36
perhaps, not always, but sometimes leave the English education part of their life behind.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€๋” ์˜์–ด ๊ต์œก์„ ์‚ถ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋กœ ๋‘๊ณ  ๋– ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:42
But you took it with you.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:44
Yeah, that was actually never part of the plan.
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ณ„ํš์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:47
I didn't expect things to take off the way they did.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋ฅ™ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:51
I worked for maybe two months, I think with Robin in 2012 and I thought that was the end
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2012๋…„์— Robin๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ 2๊ฐœ์›” ์ •๋„ ์ผ
05:59
of it and I think we reconnected maybe around 2015.
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ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋์ธ ์ค„ ์•Œ์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
06:05
Team and started talking about let's make some more videos and even though I've moved
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2015๋…„์ฏค์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”
06:10
to the states, Robin has come here and we've done some more content in the USA and I'veโ€ฆ
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. ๋กœ๋นˆ์ด ์ด๊ณณ์— ์™”๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š”...
06:16
Wow.
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์™€์šฐ.
06:17
Yeah, and I've flown back to Korea as well to make more videos.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•œ๊ตญ์—๋„ ๋Œ์•„์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:21
So was that, does that mean then that the videos that you made in the beginning were
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ฒ˜์Œ์— ๋งŒ๋“  ๋น„๋””์˜ค๊ฐ€
06:27
so well received or so popular that Robin thought, wait, we have a good opportunity
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํ˜ธํ‰์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ๋กœ๋นˆ์ด '์ž ๊น,
06:34
to make some more success here?
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋” ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค'๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
06:36
I definitely think so, yeah.
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ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:39
I didn't expect it, but they did take off.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ฅ™ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:41
Can you remember the very first video that you made, I wonder?
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งŒ๋“  ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
06:46
I I'm not sure, but I if I were to take a guess.
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ํ™•์‹คํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ์ถ”์ธก์„ ํ•ด๋ณด์ž๋ฉด.
06:52
I would guess the โ€˜can and canโ€™tโ€™ and some of the very simple basic skills.
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๋‚˜๋Š” 'ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค'์™€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ถ”์ธกํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:00
So in your videos, I talked about it in the opening a little bit conversation, you covered
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋น„๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์—ˆ
07:06
that.
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์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:07
You cover a lot of different things in your videos.
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๋™์˜์ƒ์—์„œ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:09
And some of your videos are quite long as well, although they're put together I think
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ฝค ๊ธธ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ํ•ฉ์น˜๋ฉด
07:13
3 hours, some 5 hours some.
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3์‹œ๊ฐ„, ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์€ 5์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:16
But yeah, different topics, conversation, speaking, all these different types of things.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ˆ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์ œ, ๋Œ€ํ™”, ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ, ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค.
07:22
When you started making videos again, did you know that you wanted to cover many different
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๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์—์„œ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„ ์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
07:28
topics in your video?
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์บ์ฃผ์–ผํ•˜๊ณ 
07:31
No, but I did always enjoy the storytelling videos, which were a little more casual, a
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๋œ ํ˜•์‹์ ์ธ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌํ…”๋ง ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ฆ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌํ…”๋ง ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚˜๋Š”
07:38
little less formal.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ
07:40
We haven't done any kind of storytelling videos in a while, but I'm looking forward to picking
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๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ 
07:45
up on those again.
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์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:47
And there was a video where Robin asked me really quick-fire 100 questions and that was
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Robin์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ 100๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋˜์ง€๋Š” ๋น„๋””์˜ค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„
07:54
a lot of fun as well.
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์•„์ฃผ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:55
Iโ€ฆ
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๋‚˜โ€ฆ
07:56
I did one of those videos too, for Robin.
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๋‚˜๋„ ๊ทธ ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋กœ๋นˆ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค.
07:58
It wasโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๊ฑดโ€ฆ
08:00
It was a lot of fun.
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์ •๋ง ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:01
Yeah, I don't think I've ever been asked 100 questions in a row before in such quick-fire,
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์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์‹ ์†ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ ์†ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์—ฐ์†์œผ๋กœ 100๊ฐœ์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›์€ ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ
08:07
quick-fire fashion.
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๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:08
But yeah, those are fun to do.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:10
Right.
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์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
08:11
I saw one of your videos has 17,155,940 views and that number is probably higher as we are
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๋™์˜์ƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์กฐํšŒ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ 17,155,940ํšŒ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ˆ˜์น˜๋Š”
08:23
speaking right now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์•„๋งˆ ๋” ๋†’์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:25
So I wonder, in your opinion as a teacher, as a star teacher, what makes your videos
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์œผ๋กœ์„œ, ์Šคํƒ€ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์œผ๋กœ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋™์˜์ƒ
08:31
so popular, do you think?
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์„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ธ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊นŒ์š”?
08:35
It's hard to say, um, when I read the comments, I just feel like people connect with me.
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์Œ, ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ์ฝ์„ ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:45
Uhm, I have heard that I speak very clearly.
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์Œ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:49
And I think that is helpful for a lot of English learners.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:53
Uhm, you know, I don't know.
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์Œ, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‚œ ๋ชฐ๋ผ.
08:55
But I really, really just appreciate all the love and kind comments and questions people
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚จ๊ธด ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋ž‘๊ณผ ์นœ์ ˆํ•œ ์˜๊ฒฌ๊ณผ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:04
have left.
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09:05
Yeah, those comments really make you feel great, don't they?
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ ๋Œ“๊ธ€ ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์•„์ง€์ฃ ?
09:09
Because it makes you realize that you're making an impact.
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์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:13
You're having a positive influence on someoneโ€™s life, and as someone who is studying to be
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ์‚ถ์— ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
09:19
a therapist and studied psychology before, I'm guessing that that's really quite important
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, ์น˜๋ฃŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ด์ „์— ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌํ•™์„ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:24
for you personally.
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.
09:25
Yes, it's very rewarding just to know that I am helping people.
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์˜ˆ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋•๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ณด๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:30
And just that ---I'm making some kind of impact.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋กœ ---๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:36
It feels really wonderful.
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์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:38
Do you remember the moment when you realized, oh wow, these videos are becoming quite popular?
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์˜ค ์™€์šฐ, ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ๊ฝค ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์€ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
09:46
Because in the beginning you only worked with Robin for a couple of months.
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์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” Robin๊ณผ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ๋งŒ ์ผํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:51
There was a break time there, a long break time.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์‰ฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๊ธด ์‰ฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
09:53
And then you started making videos again.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:55
Do you remember, was there any particular video or any particular time when you realized,
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๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์„ธ์š”, ์˜ค, ์ด๊ฒŒ ๊ฝค ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋Š”
10:01
oh, this is going to be quite successful?
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๊ฑธ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์€ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋‚˜ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
10:04
I still don't think it's really hit me.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋•Œ๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:07
You know, when you say 17 million views, that's shockingโ€ฆ
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1,700๋งŒ๋ทฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ ์ด๋„ค์š”...
10:11
That's just that's Justin Bieber territory.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ €์Šคํ‹ด ๋น„๋ฒ„์˜ ์˜์—ญ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:13
I still have a hard time wrapping my head around what that really means to be honest.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ •์งํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์‹ธ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:20
The first time I realized not that this was going to be a big deal or that this was big,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํฐ ์ผ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์„ ๋•Œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํฐ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜
10:26
but the first time that I thought this is more than just the two months kind of commitment
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์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฒ˜์Œ์— Robin๊ณผ ๋งบ์€ ๋‘ ๋‹ฌ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์•ฝ์† ์ด์ƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
10:31
I had made with Robin initially, was when a colleague of mine at a hagwon was preparing
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๋™๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ํ•™์›์—์„œ
10:39
a lesson for his class and was looking up some videos on YouTube for resources and said
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์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๋˜ ์ค‘ YouTube์—์„œ ์ž๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ ์ฐพ์•„
10:45
to me, is this you?
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๋ณด๋”๋‹ˆ "์ด๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋‹ˆ?
10:47
And Iโ€ฆ
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"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:48
That was the first time I realized like while people are getting to my videos when they
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š”โ€ฆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ
10:53
search for something really simple for teaching English.
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๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:58
Has it gotten easier over the years because now it'sโ€ฆ it's been a long time now, right,
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. ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚ ์ˆ˜๋ก ๋” ์‰ฌ์›Œ์กŒ๋‚˜์š”? ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ง€๊ธˆ์€โ€ฆ ์ด์ œ ์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ํ˜๋ €์ฃ ,
11:04
for you to be making videos?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ , ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์ผ์ด์š”?
11:06
Has it gotten easier to make these videos or has it gotten more difficult, I wonder?
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์ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์‰ฌ์›Œ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
11:12
I don't know if it's gotten more difficult or easier.
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๋” ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง„๊ฑด์ง€ ์‰ฌ์›Œ์ง„๊ฑด์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:18
Not to toot my own horn, butโ€ฆ
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๋‚ด ๊ฒฝ์ ์„ ์šธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒโ€ฆ
11:20
Please do.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
11:21
That's why we're her, Esther.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€์•ผ, ์—์Šค๋”.
11:22
Well, Iโ€ฆ
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”
11:23
I was surprised by.. by lack of nervousness.
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.. ๋†€๋ž์–ด์š”.. ๊ธด์žฅ์ด ๋ถ€์กฑํ•ด์„œ์š”.
11:29
I wasn't as nervous as I thought I'd be.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋งŒํผ ๊ธด์žฅํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค.
11:32
I think I do OK under pressure.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์••๋ฐ•๊ฐ ์†์—์„œ๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค.
11:35
You know, I have to admit, even before this interview I was pretty nervous.
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์ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ์ „์—๋„ ์ €๋Š” ๊ฝค ๊ธด์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:40
But here I am and I'm feeling OK.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:42
And even with school presentations and things like that, I really feel nervous before, but
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•™๊ต ๋ฐœํ‘œํšŒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ „์—๋Š” ๊ธด์žฅ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋๋Š”๋ฐ
11:48
in the moment, I tend to do OK.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ž˜ํ•˜๋Š” ํŽธ์ด์—์š”.
11:51
Maybe I'm acting a little, I don't know.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ข€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:55
But itโ€ฆ it never felt too difficult.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ... ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋ ต๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์ง€์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:58
I guess that's a really good feeling to know though, becauseโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์•Œ๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉดโ€ฆ
12:05
that's how students of English feel often when they have to speak English and even worse
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์ข…์ข… ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ• 
12:11
when they have to do a presentation in English.
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๋•Œ, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์˜์–ด๋กœ ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๋” ์‹ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:13
So knowing that feeling, do you think that that maybe makes you an even better teacher?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ์•Œ๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ต์‚ฌ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
12:19
Oh, that's a good question.
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์˜ค, ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:21
I think, yeah.
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๋„ค.
12:23
You know, before presentations or before an interview, something like this I will often
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋ฐœํ‘œ ์ „์ด๋‚˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ์ „์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ข…์ข…
12:30
also practice either in my head or in front of a mirror.
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๋จธ๋ฆฌ ์†์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฑฐ์šธ ์•ž์—์„œ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:35
I'll do my best to feel that I am well prepared, so I looked at the interview questions ahead
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์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ์ž˜ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค๋„๋ก ์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋‹คํ•  ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ๋ฉด์ ‘ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค์„ ์‚ดํŽด
12:42
of time, or I'll ask about what I can expect and I don't go in blindly.
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๋ณด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๊ณ  ๋ฌด์ž‘์ • ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค.
12:47
I do prepare.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ค€๋น„ํ•œ๋‹ค.
12:49
And thenโ€ฆ and thenโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋‚˜์„œ...๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋‚˜์„œ...
12:51
when Iโ€ฆ once I'm in it, it doesn't seem as bad because I kind of know what to expect.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€...ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๊ทธ ์•ˆ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋ฉด, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜์˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:57
Now, when it comes to maybe like a live lesson or something like that, I may be a little
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์ด์ œ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ๋ ˆ์Šจ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”
13:02
bit more nervous because things can go wrong.
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์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์ž˜๋ชป๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๊ธด์žฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:05
But in general, if I have some time or ability to prepare, I'll feel a lot better going into
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ค€๋น„ํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๋‚˜ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ 
13:12
the activity that I'm doing.
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์žˆ๋Š” ํ™œ๋™์— ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:13
Oh, that's the beauty of live TV or live radio or live streaming, is that, hey, sometimes
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์˜ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ TV, ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ๋ผ๋””์˜ค ๋˜๋Š” ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ์˜ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€๋”
13:19
things go wrong and that's OK when that happens too, right?
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์ผ์ด ์ž˜๋ชป๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ด๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
13:23
Of course, yeah.
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๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
13:25
Is there any video that comes to mind for you that was the most fun to make, I wonder?
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ์˜์ƒ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
13:32
I'm going to go back to that 100 questions, rapid questioning video, just because it was
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100๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๋น ๋ฅธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:40
very casual for that one.
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.
13:42
I didn't really have to prepare, and who doesn't like talking about themselves and things that
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๋”ฑํžˆ ์ค€๋น„ํ•  ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ž๊ธฐ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋‚˜ ์ž๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š”
13:48
they enjoy?
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๊ฑธ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์–ด๋”” ์žˆ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
13:49
Right, that'sโ€ฆ that's true.
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๋งž์•„์š”... ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์—์š”.
13:50
So that was fun.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:51
Maybe that's how I should have prepared for this interview today?
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ค€๋น„ํ–ˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋‚˜?
13:54
I should have just prepared 100 questions and just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
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๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ 100๊ฐœ์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ์ค€๋น„ํ–ˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ถ, ๋ถ, ๋ถ, ๋ถ, ๋ถ, ๋ถ,
13:59
boom.
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๋ถ.
14:00
So you're studying to be a therapist now?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์น˜๋ฃŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
14:04
Does that mean that you will stop making English education videos in the future?
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์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์˜์–ด ๊ต์œก ์˜์ƒ ์ œ์ž‘์„ ์ค‘๋‹จํ•˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
14:09
Or will you do those both of those things together in the future?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
14:14
I'm still working on making videos with Robin.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ Robin๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:19
I don't have any plans to stop in the near future.
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๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์žฅ๋ž˜์— ๋ฉˆ์ถœ ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:22
Things may slow down depending on how often we're able to travel back and forth and make
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•ž๋’ค๋กœ ์ด๋™ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋นˆ๋„์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋Š๋ ค์งˆ ์ˆ˜
14:27
the videos.
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์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:28
And you know, I'm always being encouraged to make videos at home right now, however,
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ง‘์—์„œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋„๋ก ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฒฉ๋ ค๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
14:33
with my studies, and my burgeoning practice, it's a little bit hard to do that.
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์ œ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์™€ ๊ธ‰์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ์—ฐ์Šต์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:41
So videos may not be coming out as regularly, but I do plan to continue making them.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜์ƒ์ด ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์˜ค์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณ„์† ๋งŒ๋“ค ๊ณ„ํš์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:49
What kind of video schedule do you have now?
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์ผ์ •์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
14:52
Do you put out videos once a week?
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์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๊ฒŒ์‹œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
14:54
Once a month?
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ํ•œ๋‹ฌ์— ํ•œ๋ฒˆ?
14:55
What kind of schedule are you on now?
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์ •์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
14:57
Currently, I don't have any kind of regular schedule.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋”ฑํžˆ ์ •ํ•ด์ง„ ์Šค์ผ€์ค„์ด ์—†์–ด์š”.
15:01
It's more so when I'm able to visit Korea, we'll shoot a lot of videos at once and then
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๋”๊ตฐ๋‹ค๋‚˜ ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ํ•œ๋ฒˆ์— ๋งŽ์€ ์˜์ƒ์„ ์ฐ๊ณ 
15:09
they will slowly be edited and then released.
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์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ํŽธ์ง‘ํ•ด์„œ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:11
Wow, you truly are a celebrity, aren't you?
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์™€, ์ง„์งœ ์—ฐ์˜ˆ์ธ ๋งž์ฃ ?
15:14
Traveling around the world to film different things.
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:17
Yeah, when you put it that way.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ.
15:20
Yeah, exactly right.
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๋„ค, ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:22
So what are the plans then for content for the future?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•ž์œผ๋กœ์˜ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ  ๊ณ„ํš์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
15:25
Orโ€ฆ or maybe just things that you think, in your opinion as a teacher, would be really
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด... ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์œผ๋กœ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ์—
15:31
useful for students these days?
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์š”์ฆ˜ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ์œ ์šฉํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
15:34
Well, with TikTok and other social media being so umโ€ฆ
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์Œ, TikTok๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์Œโ€ฆ YouTube์—์„œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๊ฐ€ ๊ณต๊ฐœ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋‚˜
15:42
It's just really different from when videos were released on YouTube or when I recorded
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2012๋…„์— YouTube์šฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ
15:47
these videos for YouTube in 2012.
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๋…นํ™”ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์™€๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
15:51
People are consuming social media content in much smaller bits and pieces.
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. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ž‘์€ ์กฐ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:58
And so, I foresee that if I do make some videos, it will be a lot more casual quick.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ฉด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์บ์ฃผ์–ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
16:05
UM, maybe uh, more of a glimpse into my daily life.
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์Œ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์–ด, ๋‚ด ์ผ์ƒ์„ ์‚ด์ง ์—ฟ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:11
Andโ€ฆ and just maybe a little bit more of an approachable, less structured, uhm, lesson.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ๊ณ  ๊ตฌ์กฐํ™”๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€, ์Œ, ๊ตํ›ˆ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:18
I'm not sure yet, but I definitely can see that being popular or helpful.
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์•„์ง ํ™•์‹คํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:23
That's a really interesting opinion.
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์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์˜๊ฒฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:25
You know, I've heard so many different teachers say these days.
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์š”์ฆ˜ ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ง์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:30
Well, because of the pandemic, it changed education, not just for English, it changed
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ํŒฌ๋ฐ๋ฏน์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ต์œก์ด ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜์–ด๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
16:36
education as a whole.
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๊ต์œก ์ „์ฒด๋„ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:39
Because so much got put online forcibly, people didn't have a choice, students and teachers.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ•์ œ๋กœ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์— ์˜ฌ๋ ค์กŒ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ•™์ƒ๊ณผ ๊ต์‚ฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์„ ํƒ์˜ ์—ฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:46
But what's interesting is that the world of social media is now having a great impact
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์€ ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์ด์ œ
16:54
on how students want to learn and how teachers want to teach.
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ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹๊ณผ ๊ต์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ํฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:00
And I think it's something maybe you agree or disagree, but to me, it seems like such
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋™์˜ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋™์˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ
17:06
a juxtapose.
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๋ณ‘์น˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:08
Social media and education or social media and English education.
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์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์™€ ๊ต์œก ๋˜๋Š” ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์™€ ์˜์–ด ๊ต์œก.
17:13
Those two things don't seem to go together naturally.
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์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:17
But now teachers, they have to follow that trend, right?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํ๋ฆ„์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐ€์•ผ๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
17:22
And Iโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š”โ€ฆ
17:23
I do see where you're coming from, but I think I myself learn a lot from social media.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ž์‹ ๋„ ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šด๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:29
For example, I'm following a lot of accounts that are teaching me how to make new recipes.
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ €๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ ˆ์‹œํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณ„์ •์„ ํŒ”๋กœ์šฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:36
Accountโ€ฆ
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๊ณ„์ •โ€ฆ
17:37
Instagram accounts that teach me about finance, which is something I'm interested in learning.
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๊ธˆ์œต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ ์ฃผ๋Š” ์ธ์Šคํƒ€๊ทธ๋žจ ๊ณ„์ •, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:42
Or about.
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๋˜๋Š” ์•ฝ.
17:43
I'm learning a lot about therapy as well.
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์น˜๋ฃŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:47
And so I'm learning bits and pieces.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:50
And so I do think that maybe theโ€ฆ either the quality of theโ€ฆ or the time it'll take
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„... ํ’ˆ์งˆ์ด... ๋˜๋Š”
17:55
to acquire all the knowledge I need to become an expert, will be longer, but at the same
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์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ง€์‹์„ ์Šต๋“ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋” ๊ธธ์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋™์‹œ์—
18:02
time, itโ€ฆ it is more approachable, like I said.
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... ๋” ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. , ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด.
18:06
It feels less daunting or it feels like it's not so much I have to try to learn atโ€ฆ at
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋œ ๋ฒ…์ฐจ๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์ง€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
18:13
once so it can feel like more doable.
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ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์— ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์ ธ์„œ ๋” ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:16
I guess is another way to put it.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋„ฃ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:18
Yeah, I guess the world is changing.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์„ธ์ƒ์ด ๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„.
18:21
People are changing in the sense that I don't know if it's a reduced attention span for
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ 
18:27
people around the world or just people have become spoiled with how quickly they can get
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์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์ฃผ์˜ ์ง‘์ค‘ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ค„์–ด๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฒ„๋ฆ‡์—†๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜
18:33
their content.
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์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:34
But I think you're right.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜ณ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:36
Shorter videos perhaps, with getting your point - boom, straight to the point.
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์š”์ ์„ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๋Š” ์งง์€ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:40
And then wrap it up and then, yeah, maybe that's the future of education for not just
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ , ๋„ค, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
18:45
English, but finance, cooking, all the things that you mentioned.
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์˜์–ด๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ธˆ์œต, ์š”๋ฆฌ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ต์œก์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:49
It's really interesting, the trend change, I think.
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์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:52
Definitely.
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ.
18:53
And about your point regarding, you know, shorter attention span, I really do think
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์งง์€ ์ฃผ์˜ ์ง‘์ค‘ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์š”์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด, ๋‚˜๋Š”
18:58
that that has a little bit to do with it, if not a lot to do with it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:02
I myself find it harder to concentrate for long periods of time, even on things that
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๋‚˜๋Š” TV ์‡ผ์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—๋„ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:07
I enjoy, like a TV show.
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.
19:09
I find myself multitasking.
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๋ฉ€ํ‹ฐํƒœ์Šคํ‚น์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:12
Yeah, it's so hard to sit through a 2-hour movie now.
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๋„ค, ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ 2์‹œ๊ฐ„์งœ๋ฆฌ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํž˜๋“ค์–ด์š”.
19:17
Iโ€ฆ
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๋‚˜โ€ฆ
19:18
I had that conversation with a friend.
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์นœ๊ตฌ์™€ ๊ทธ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆด๋‹ค.
19:20
I wonder if movies will become like 22 minutes long in the future or something.
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜์—๋Š” ์˜ํ™”๊ฐ€ 22๋ถ„ ์ •๋„ ๋ ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:25
Yeah, that would be crazy, but you know, I don't think it's too far off.
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๋„ค, ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ง“์ด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:30
Absolutely.
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์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ.
19:31
So then the therapy degree, how far away?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์น˜๋ฃŒํ•™์œ„๋Š” ์–ด๋””๊นŒ์ง€?
19:34
Oh, sorry, maybe license is the right way to say that.
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์•„, ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ผ์ด์„ ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ํ‘œํ˜„์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:37
How far away, how far in the future is that for you?
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ, ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋จผ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
19:40
So I have about three more years to work towards that license.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ผ์ด์„ผ์Šค๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์•ฝ 3๋…„ ๋” ์ผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:45
I'm accruing hours so I have to hit, in California, theโ€ฆ the requirements are 3000 hours of
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์Œ“๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์บ˜๋ฆฌํฌ๋‹ˆ์•„์—์„œ... ์š”๊ตฌ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์€
19:53
direct clinical work with children and adults.
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์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด ๋ฐ ์„ฑ์ธ๊ณผ์˜ ์ง์ ‘์ ์ธ ์ž„์ƒ ์ž‘์—… 3000์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:58
Do you believe you mentioned the amount of time it takes to be an expert?
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์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
20:02
Do you believe in the 10,000-hour rule?
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10,000์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™์„ ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
20:06
Studying something for 10,000 hours makes you an automatic expert at it, or practicing
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10,000์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ž๋™์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
20:10
for 10,000 hours.
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10,000์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:11
I'mโ€ฆ
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์ €๋Š”...
20:12
I'm wondering your view as a teacher, as an educator, if you believe in that theory.
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์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์œผ๋กœ์„œ, ๊ต์œก์ž๋กœ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ ์ด๋ก ์„ ๋ฏฟ๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”.
20:18
I don't think so.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค.
20:19
I don't even know exactly how many days or months or years 10,000 hours would amount
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10,000์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ช‡ ์ผ, ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ, ๋ช‡ ๋…„์ด ๋ ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:25
to.
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20:26
Depends on the person and their schedule I guess, right?
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์ผ์ •์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š์„๊นŒ์š”?
20:29
Sure, that's true.
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๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:30
UM.
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์Œ.
20:31
But no, I don't think it's a finite amount of time necessarily.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์ •ํ•ด์ง„ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:36
Itโ€ฆ it's a lot of other factors as well, including effort, attention, passion.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€... ๋…ธ๋ ฅ, ๊ด€์‹ฌ, ์—ด์ •์„ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์š”์†Œ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:43
Uhm, yeah, just a lot of different things put together.
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์Œ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ํ•ฉ์ณ์กŒ์–ด.
20:48
Do you think English education has changed over the years?
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์˜์–ด ๊ต์œก์ด ์‹œ๋Œ€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
20:52
We talked about how people get their content these days through different social media
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์š”์ฆ˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด
20:59
services.
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์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ์–ป๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:00
Do you think that the students, the information that theyโ€ฆ that they want or the information
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ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์ •๋ณด ๋˜๋Š”
21:05
that they get has changed over the years?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์–ป๋Š” ์ •๋ณด๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜๋…„์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
21:08
Umm, I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if teachers are already doing what we talked
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์Œ, ์ž˜์€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ
21:15
about earlier, giving smaller snippets of information.
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๊ฐ€ ์ด์ „์— ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ด๋ฏธ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋” ์ž‘์€ ์ •๋ณด ์กฐ๊ฐ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„ ๋†€๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:20
Like instead of studying from a vocabulary book, students might be following a teacher
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๋‹จ์–ด์žฅ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹  ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์€
21:27
who does one vocab word a day.
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ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— ํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด์”ฉ ํ•˜๋Š” ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:30
And puts it in aโ€ฆ a visual context of where they're showing it, you know, in a video or
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์—์„œ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ์  ๋งฅ๋ฝ์— ๋„ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
21:36
in a picture.
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21:37
So I would assume also it's a lot more visual.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์‹œ๊ฐ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:41
Uhm, yeah.
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์Œ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
21:42
Do you have a favorite English word?
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์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
21:44
I'mโ€ฆ
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์ €๋Š”...
21:45
I'm totally putting you on the spot here, and I apologize for that.
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ด ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋ฐฐ์น˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๊ณผ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:48
No, that's OK.
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์•„๋‹ˆ, ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„.
21:50
The first word that comes to mind is โ€˜goggleโ€™.
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” '๊ณ ๊ธ€'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:52
OK.
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ํ™•์ธ.
21:53
I just think it's just such a silly word.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์“ธ๋ฐ์—†๋Š” ๋ง์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
21:55
And I love that someoneโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹คโ€ฆ
21:56
I don't know the root of it, but I just love that wherever it came from, the word goggle
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๊ทผ์›์„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€, goggle์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด
22:01
just sounds funny.
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๊ฐ€ ์šฐ์Šค๊ฝ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฐ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:02
It sounds like you're mispronouncing an Internet search engine.
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ ์—”์ง„์„ ์ž˜๋ชป ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:06
Yes, yes.
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์˜ˆ, ์˜ˆ.
22:07
Instead of something you wear when you go skiing.
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์Šคํ‚ค๋ฅผ ํƒˆ ๋•Œ ์ž…๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋Œ€์‹ ์—.
22:10
Right, right.
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๋งž์•„ ๋งž์•„.
22:11
So the origins of words are always interesting.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹จ์–ด์˜ ๊ธฐ์›์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:15
So, I think of silly words, silly sounding words like that, where they might have come
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋ณด ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‹จ์–ด, ๋ฐ”๋ณด๊ฐ™์ด ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐ
22:19
from.
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ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:20
Or did someone just make a sound and decide that was the word to describe this object?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด์„œ ์ด ๋ฌผ์ฒด๋ฅผ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
22:24
One of the common questions that teachers get when they are being interviewed is a question
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์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
22:30
that I will ask you next.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์Œ์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:33
In your expert opinion for students, what do you think is theโ€ฆ or should be the main
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ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์ „๋ฌธ์ ์ธ ๊ฒฌํ•ด์—์„œ, ๊ท€ํ•˜ ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต ํ•™์ƒ์˜ ํ•™์Šต์˜
22:40
focus of an English language studentโ€™s study?
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์ฃผ์š” ์ดˆ์ ์ด... ๋˜๋Š” ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ
22:44
Conversation, reading, vocabulary, grammar, listening.
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ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ํšŒํ™”, ์ฝ๊ธฐ, ์–ดํœ˜, ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•, ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ.
22:48
Those are kind of the five main elements, right?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋‹ค์„ฏ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ฃผ์š” ์š”์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
22:50
Do you think one isn't any more important than the other?
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
22:56
I think I don't know if I can say that one is more important than the other, but I do
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์–ด๋Š ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ
23:02
think that learning how to speak and listen first, and preferably if possible in a natural
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๋จผ์ € ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋ฉด
23:11
manner by conversing with other English speakers, or conversing with people who are also learning
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜์–ด ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž์™€ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
23:18
you're like yourself, can make it easier to pick up on the other skills like reading and
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ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ฝ๊ธฐ์™€ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๋” ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ตํž ์ˆ˜
23:24
grammar.
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์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:26
Very good information from an expert teacher.
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์ „๋ฌธ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์˜ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ์ •๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:28
Start with your speaking and listening and then everything else will get easier from
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๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ์™€ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์‰ฌ์›Œ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ
23:32
there.
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:33
All right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
23:34
Well, I know because you said earlier you don't like to toot your own horn or blow your
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ด์ „์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜ํŒ”์„ ๋ถˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜ํŒ”์„ ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:38
own horn, which means to brag about yourself.
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23:40
But I have to ask you, why should students go to Shaw Education on YouTube or the website
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด YouTube๋‚˜ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์˜ Shaw Education์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
23:47
and watch your videos?
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
23:50
Uhm, I think that my videos are very simple and straightforward.
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์Œ, ๋‚ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง์„ค์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:58
They are easy to follow, they have a lot of great examples, a lot of encouragement.
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๋”ฐ๋ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ๊ณ  ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์˜ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฉ๋ ค๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:05
And, umโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์Œ...
24:07
I think that they areโ€ฆ the word of the day approachable.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด... ๋‹ค๊ฐ€๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์‰ฌ์šด ์š”์ฆ˜์˜ ๋‹จ์–ด์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
24:11
They'reโ€ฆ they're not too challenging, and yet you can choose between a variety of levels
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€... ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์–ด๋ ต์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ ์ค‘์—์„œ ์„ ํƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
24:17
that you're looking to learn.
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24:18
And not only that, you get to learn about the teachers that are behind the videos and
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๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๋’ค์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
24:23
learn a little bit about their journeys and so you really get to connect with the person
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๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์—ฌ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฏ€๋กœ
24:29
who's teaching you English while also taking in the content in a way that is.
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์ง„์ •์œผ๋กœ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ .
24:35
Not too challenging yet there is some variety in what you're learning.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋„์ „์ ์ด์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์—๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋‹ค์–‘์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:39
Do you have any particular level that you enjoy making videos for?
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๋น„๋””์˜ค ์ œ์ž‘์„ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ํŠน์ • ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
24:44
I've seen some of your videos for very beginner levels, and I do agree with you by the way,
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์ดˆ๊ธ‰ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋‚˜์ €๋‚˜
24:50
you have a wonderful speaking voice.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์— ๋™์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:52
Your enunciation is so clear and that would make a student feel so comfortable.
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๋ฐœ์Œ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•ด์„œ ํ•™์ƒ์ด ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:58
So, do you prefer making videos for the beginner level, intermediate level, advanced level?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ดˆ๊ธ‰, ์ค‘๊ธ‰, ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์ค‘ ์–ด๋–ค ์˜์ƒ์„ ์„ ํ˜ธํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
25:04
Or is there really no difference for you?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
25:07
No difference.
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์ฐจ์ด ์—†์Œ.
25:08
I really do enjoy all levels and it's always just a really fun time for me getting together
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์ €๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ ํ•˜๊ณ  Robin๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํŒ€์œผ๋กœ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๋Š”
25:14
with Robin, recording and working as a team.
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๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ •๋ง ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:17
Well, we're about to wrap things up, but there was a guest here before we started our interview
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. ์ž, ์ด์ œ ๋ง‰ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์—
25:23
andโ€ฆ and the guest has disappeared somewhere.
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์†๋‹˜์ด ๊ณ„์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ... ๊ทธ ์†๋‹˜์€ ์–ด๋””๋ก ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:26
Your roommate, I think at the House, is he gone?
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ฃธ๋ฉ”์ดํŠธ, ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์กŒ๋‚˜์š”?
25:29
Is the is the catโ€ฆ is the cat not around right now?
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๊ณ ์–‘์ด์ธ๊ฐ€... ๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ์—†๋‚˜?
25:33
He's sitting across from me.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‚ด ๋งž์€ํŽธ์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ๋‹ค.
25:34
He was sitting right here earlier, but he's decided that he needs a little bit of space,
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์•„๊นŒ ์ „์— ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์•‰์•„์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ํŒ๋‹จ
25:39
so he's sitting across from me behind the camera.
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ํ•ด์„œ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ ๋’ค ๋งž์€ํŽธ์— ์•‰์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:42
He's your producer, then.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ”„๋กœ๋“€์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:44
He's making sure I don't mess up.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์—‰๋ง์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:46
He's on the other side of the glass.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์œ ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํŽธ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:48
Well, if we have a chance to meet again in the future, maybe we can say hello to your
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ท€์—ฌ์šด ๊ณ ์–‘์ด ์—๊ฒŒ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ
25:52
cute little cat.
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
25:54
Where can we find?
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:55
OK, so give us all the information on where we can go and find you if there's any information
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. YouTube ๋“ฑ์—์„œ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ •๋ณด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ •๋ณด
26:00
you want to share on YouTube or things like that.
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๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
26:03
Uhm, the best way to get in touch with me is to e-mail.
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์Œ, ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:06
You can find the e-mail address on our YouTube page.
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YouTube ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์—์„œ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ ์ฃผ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:10
Very good.
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๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€.
26:11
Well, Esther, it was a delight to speak with you today.
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์Œ, ์—์Šค๋”, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ๋ปค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:13
Thank you so much for sharing a little bit about your story.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:17
Congratulations on the unbelievable success of your videos with Shaw English.
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Shaw English์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค์˜ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์„ฑ๊ณต์„ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:24
Good luck with your therapy study in the future.
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์•ž์œผ๋กœ์˜ ์น˜๋ฃŒ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์— ํ–‰์šด์„ ๋น•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:27
And I do hope that we will have an opportunity to chat again one day.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:30
It was a real pleasure for me.
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ๋ปค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:32
Thank you so much.
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์ •๋ง ๊ณ ๋ง™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:33
Thank you so much, Steve, for having me.
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์ €๋ฅผ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
26:35
I had a great time as well.
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๋‚˜๋„ ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:36
OK, by Esther and by producer cat.
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Esther์™€ ํ”„๋กœ๋“€์„œ ์บฃ์ด ์ž‘์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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