The new era of positive psychology | Martin Seligman

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翻译人员: Menglu Wang 校对人员: Tony Yet
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When I was President of the American Psychological Association,
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我在美国心理学会担任主席的时候
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they tried to media-train me.
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有人想训练我如何应对媒体
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And an encounter I had with CNN summarizes
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我在CNN做节目的一次经历
正好可以概括今天我要谈论的话题
00:23
what I'm going to be talking about today,
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就是人们应该积极乐观的第11个理由
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which is the eleventh reason to be optimistic.
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The editor of Discover told us 10 of them;
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Discover的编辑告诉了我们前10个理由
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I'm going to give you the eleventh.
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我要来告诉你们第11个
00:36
So they came to me, CNN, and they said, "Professor Seligman --
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当时CNN的人找到我,对我说:赛利格曼教授,
您能不能跟我们谈谈心理学发展的现状?
00:41
would you tell us about the state of psychology today?
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00:44
We'd like to interview you about that."
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我们想采访你在这方面的看法。我便说:好啊
00:46
And I said, "Great."
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00:48
And she said, "But this is CNN, so you only get a sound bite."
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她说:可是这是CNN,所以你只能很精练地讲一小段话
00:53
I said, "Well, how many words do I get?"
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我便说:那么我究竟能讲几个字?
00:56
And she said, "Well, one."
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她说:一个字
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
随后摄像机开拍,她说:塞利格曼教授
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And the cameras rolled, and she said,
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01:02
"Professor Seligman, what is the state of psychology today?"
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心理学发展的现状如何?
01:07
"Good."
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01:08
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:10
"Cut! Cut. That won't do.
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停,停,这样不行
我们应该让你讲长一点
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We'd really better give you a longer sound bite."
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01:17
"How many words do I get this time?"
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那么这次我能讲几个字呢?我看,你讲两个字吧
01:19
"Well, you get two."
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01:21
(Laughter)
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01:22
"Doctor Seligman, what is the state of psychology today?"
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塞利格曼博士,心理学发展的现状如何?
01:27
"Not good."
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01:28
(Laughter)
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“不好。”
(笑声)
听我说,塞利格曼博士
01:40
"Look, Doctor Seligman,
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we can see you're really not comfortable in this medium.
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我们知道你在这种媒体场合不太适应
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We'd better give you a real sound bite.
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我们决定给足你时间
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This time you can have three words.
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这次你可以说三个字
01:50
Professor Seligman, what is the state of psychology today?"
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塞利格曼教授,心理学发展的现状如何?
01:55
"Not good enough."
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不够好,这也就是我今天想谈论的话题
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That's what I'm going to be talking about.
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02:00
I want to say why psychology was good, why it was not good,
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我想谈谈为什么说心理学既好,又不好
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and how it may become, in the next 10 years, good enough.
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以及心理学在未来10年里如何可以变得足够好
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And by parallel summary, I want to say the same thing about technology,
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同时我也想谈一谈技术
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about entertainment and design,
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娱乐和设计,因为这些领域发展状况和心理学相似
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because I think the issues are very similar.
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02:17
So, why was psychology good?
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那么,为什么说心理学的现状好呢?
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Well, for more than 60 years, psychology worked within the disease model.
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因为在过去60多年里,心理学建立起了一个疾病模型
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Ten years ago, when I was on an airplane
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10年前,坐飞机的时候
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and I introduced myself to my seatmate, and told them what I did,
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我向邻座自我介绍,告诉他们我的职业
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they'd move away from me,
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他们会挪得离我远一点
因为他们认为,也有理由认为
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because, quite rightly, they were saying
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02:36
psychology is about finding what's wrong with you.
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心理学的目标就是找出你哪里有问题,找出谁是疯子
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Spot the loony.
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02:40
And now, when I tell people what I do, they move toward me.
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而现在如果我告诉人们我的职业,他们会想凑近我
02:44
What was good about psychology --
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心理学好在哪里
美国国家精神卫生研究所投资300亿美元的效果在哪里
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about the $30 billion investment NIMH made,
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02:52
about working in the disease model,
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建立疾病模型的效果在哪里
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about what you mean by psychology --
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心理学自身的意义好在哪里
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is that, 60 years ago, none of the disorders were treatable;
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就在于60年前所有失调都没办法治疗
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it was entirely smoke and mirrors.
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人们毫无办法
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And now, 14 of the disorders are treatable,
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而现在其中有14种都可以治疗
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two of them actually curable.
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其中2种还可以治愈
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And the other thing that happened is that a science developed,
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另一点是一门科学发展起来了
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a science of mental illness.
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一门研究精神疾病的科学
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We found out we could take fuzzy concepts
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我们发现我们可以对抑郁、酗酒这些模糊的概念
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like depression, alcoholism,
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and measure them with rigor;
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进行精确的测量
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that we could create a classification of the mental illnesses;
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我们可以对精神疾病进行分类
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that we could understand the causality of the mental illnesses.
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我们可以了解精神疾病的前因后果
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We could look across time at the same people --
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我们可以在很长的时间跨度里观察一些人
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people, for example, who were genetically vulnerable to schizophrenia --
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比如在基因上对精神分裂症易感的人群
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and ask what the contribution of mothering, of genetics are,
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我们想知道后天照顾和先天基因在这其中扮演的角色
我们可以通过对这个精神疾病的实验
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and we could isolate third variables
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by doing experiments on the mental illnesses.
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分离出导致精神疾病的变量
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And best of all, we were able, in the last 50 years,
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最棒的一点是,在过去50年里
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to invent drug treatments and psychological treatments.
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我们发明了药物疗法和心理疗法
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And then we were able to test them rigorously,
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并且我们可以通过安慰剂对照组实验
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in random-assignment, placebo-controlled designs,
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对这些疗法进行精确的测试
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throw out the things that didn't work,
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把没用的去掉,留下有用的
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keep the things that actively did.
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04:10
The conclusion of that is,
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结论是:在过去的60年里,心理学和精神病学研究
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psychology and psychiatry of the last 60 years
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can actually claim that we can make miserable people less miserable.
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真的可以为痛苦的人减少痛苦
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And I think that's terrific.
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我觉得这非常棒,我为此感到自豪
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I'm proud of it.
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But what was not good, the consequences of that,
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但这也带来不好的东西,例如以下三个后果
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were three things.
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The first was moral;
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第一个是道德上的
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that psychologists and psychiatrists became victimologists, pathologizers;
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心理学家和精神病学家把人当作受害者研究、把人病态化
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that our view of human nature was that if you were in trouble,
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我们一度认为人在疾病面前无能为力
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bricks fell on you.
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And we forgot that people made choices and decisions.
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我们忘了人们是会做选择、做决定的
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We forgot responsibility.
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我们忘记了人是可以承担责任的,这是第一个代价
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That was the first cost.
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The second cost was that we forgot about you people.
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第二根损失是我们忘记了你们这些人
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We forgot about improving normal lives.
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我们忘记了要去提高正常人的生活
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We forgot about a mission to make relatively untroubled people happier,
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我们忘了使正常人更快乐、更充实、更有成就
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more fulfilled, more productive.
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天才、高智商变成了贬义词
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And "genius," "high-talent," became a dirty word.
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No one works on that.
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没有人去研究天才了
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And the third problem about the disease model is,
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疾病模型的第三个问题
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in our rush to do something about people in trouble,
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是我们急于帮助得病的人
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in our rush to do something about repairing damage,
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我们匆忙地去修补损伤
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it never occurred to us to develop interventions
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我们从没想过要发展干预措施、积极的干预措施
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to make people happier -- positive interventions.
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让人们更加快乐
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So that was not good.
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这是不好的
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And so that's what led people like Nancy Etcoff, Dan Gilbert,
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正因为如此,南茜•艾特柯夫、丹•吉尔伯特、迈克•齐克森米哈里还有我本人
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Mike Csikszentmihalyi and myself
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会去研究我称作“积极心理学”的这个领域
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to work in something I call, "positive psychology,"
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积极心理学有三个目标
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which has three aims.
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The first is that psychology should be just as concerned
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第一是心理学不仅要关注人的弱点
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with human strength as it is with weakness.
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还要关注人的优势
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It should be just as concerned with building strength
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不仅要致力于修复损伤,还要致力于给人力量
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as with repairing damage.
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It should be interested in the best things in life.
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应该对生活中最好的东西感兴趣
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And it should be just as concerned
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应该在关注病人的同时
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with making the lives of normal people fulfilling,
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and with genius, with nurturing high talent.
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努力让正常人以及“天才”们的生活更加美好
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So in the last 10 years and the hope for the future,
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我们希望积极心理学在未来能像过去10年这样
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we've seen the beginnings of a science of positive psychology,
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作为一门科学逐渐发展起来
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a science of what makes life worth living.
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这门科学研究什么让生活变得值得一过
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It turns out that we can measure different forms of happiness.
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研究发现我们可以测量不同形式的幸福
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And any of you, for free, can go to that website --
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你们中的每一位都可以免费去那个网站authentichappiness.org
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[www.authentichappiness.org]
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去做那里各种各样的幸福感测试
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and take the entire panoply of tests of happiness.
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You can ask, how do you stack up for positive emotion, for meaning,
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你们可以看看自己在积极情绪、幸福感、“心流”方面的得分
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for flow, against literally tens of thousands of other people?
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并和其他数万人进行比较
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We created the opposite of the diagnostic manual of the insanities:
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我们创造了和精神障碍诊断与统计相反的标准
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a classification of the strengths and virtues that looks at the sex ratio,
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我们对人的优势和优点进行性别上的分类
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how they're defined, how to diagnose them,
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研究它们的定义、诊断方式
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what builds them and what gets in their way.
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它们的构造、它们面临的障碍
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We found that we could discover the causation of the positive states,
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我们发现我们可以找到积极状态的来源
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the relationship between left hemispheric activity
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存在于左半脑活动
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and right hemispheric activity, as a cause of happiness.
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和右半脑活动之间的联系
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I've spent my life working on extremely miserable people,
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我一辈子都在帮助特别痛苦的人
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and I've asked the question:
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我一直想知道
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How do extremely miserable people differ from the rest of you?
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特别痛苦的人和其他人有什么区别?
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And starting about six years ago, we asked about extremely happy people.
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大约六年前,我们转而问
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How do they differ from the rest of us?
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特别幸福的人和其他人有什么区别?
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It turns out there's one way, very surprising --
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结果是只有一个区别
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they're not more religious, they're not in better shape,
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他们不比别人更笃信宗教,身材不比别人好
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they don't have more money, they're not better looking,
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他们不比别人富裕,也不比别人好看
他们的生活中并不是成功比挫折多
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they don't have more good events and fewer bad events.
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The one way in which they differ: they're extremely social.
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他们唯一的区别是非常善于和人相处
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They don't sit in seminars on Saturday morning.
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他们不喜欢在星期六早晨去上研讨班
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
他们很少一个人待着
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They don't spend time alone.
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Each of them is in a romantic relationship
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他们每个人都沉浸在浪漫的爱情里
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and each has a rich repertoire of friends.
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每个人都有很多朋友
但是要小心,刚才这些数据只是互相关联,并不是因果关系
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But watch out here -- this is merely correlational data, not causal,
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and it's about happiness in the first, "Hollywood" sense,
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而且他们的幸福都是好莱坞式的幸福
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I'm going to talk about,
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08:16
happiness of ebullience and giggling and good cheer.
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即开怀大笑式的幸福
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And I'm going to suggest to you that's not nearly enough,
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我待会就会告诉你们,这是不够的
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in just a moment.
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从佛祖到托尼•罗宾斯(美国潜能激励大师)
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We found we could begin to look at interventions over the centuries,
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from the Buddha to Tony Robbins.
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人们在过去一个世纪里
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About 120 interventions have been proposed that allegedly make people happy.
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从各个角度已经提出过大约120种
据说能让人更加幸福的干预措施
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And we find that we've been able to manualize many of them,
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我们已经可以操作其中的许多种
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and we actually carry out
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我们可以进行随机指派
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random-assignment efficacy and effectiveness studies.
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研究这些干预措施的有效性
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That is, which ones actually make people lastingly happier?
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也就是说,究竟哪些措施真的可以让人们持久提升幸福感?
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In a couple of minutes, I'll tell you about some of those results.
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过一会儿我会告诉你们这些研究的结果
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But the upshot of this is that the mission I want psychology to have,
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在治疗有心理疾病的人之外
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in addition to its mission of curing the mentally ill,
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在为痛苦的人减少痛苦之外
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and in addition to its mission of making miserable people less miserable,
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心理学还应该
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is, can psychology actually make people happier?
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让人更加幸福
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And to ask that question -- "happy" is not a word I use very much --
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我并不经常使用幸福这个词,但是要问这个问题
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we've had to break it down
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我们得把幸福这个概念分解一下
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into what I think is askable about "happy."
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09:21
And I believe there are three different --
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我认为有三种不同的幸福人生
之所以说它们不同
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I call them "different" because different interventions build them,
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09:28
it's possible to have one rather than the other --
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是因为他们来自于不同的干预措施
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three different happy lives.
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人们可以拥有其中一种而不拥有另一种
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The first happy life is the pleasant life.
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第一种幸福生活是快乐的人生
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This is a life in which you have as much positive emotion
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在这样的生活里你的积极情感多得不能再多了
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as you possibly can,
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and the skills to amplify it.
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你增强这些感情的技能也多的不能再多了
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The second is a life of engagement:
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第二种是参与的人生
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a life in your work, your parenting, your love, your leisure;
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你努力地工作、带孩子、恋爱、休闲,时间为你停止
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time stops for you.
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That's what Aristotle was talking about.
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亚里士多德谈过的就是这种人生
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And third, the meaningful life.
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第三种是有意义的人生
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I want to say a little bit about each of those lives
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我想简单谈一谈这三种人生
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and what we know about them.
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以及我们的研究情况
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The first life is the pleasant life, and it's simply, as best we can find it,
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第一种人生是愉快的人生
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it's having as many of the pleasures as you can,
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你所拥有的快乐多得不能再多了
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as much positive emotion as you can,
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你的积极情绪多得不能再多了
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and learning the skills -- savoring, mindfulness -- that amplify them,
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你学习快乐的技巧
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that stretch them over time and space.
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在时间和空间里放大快乐
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But the pleasant life has three drawbacks,
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但是快乐的人生有三个缺点
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and it's why positive psychology is not happy-ology,
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这也就是积极心理学区别于“快乐心理学”的地方
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and why it doesn't end here.
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The first drawback is, it turns out the pleasant life,
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第一个缺点是
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your experience of positive emotion,
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你所体会到的积极情绪有50%是遗传的
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is about 50 percent heritable,
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这种情绪不容易更改
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and, in fact, not very modifiable.
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So the different tricks that Matthieu and I and others know
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所以马修和我还有其他人
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about increasing the amount of positive emotion in your life
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所使用的让人们有更多积极情绪的方法
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are 15 to 20 percent tricks, getting more of it.
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有15%到20%都是在遗传范围内让人们发掘潜质的小把戏
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Second is that positive emotion habituates.
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第二个缺点是人们很快就能适应积极情绪
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It habituates rapidly, indeed.
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It's all like French vanilla ice cream:
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就像法式香草冰淇凌,第一口是100%的美味
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the first taste is 100 percent;
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by the time you're down to the sixth taste,
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但到了第六口,就没有味道了
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it's gone.
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And, as I said, it's not particularly malleable.
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第三点,正如我说过的,积极情绪很难改变
下面就要谈一谈第二种人生了
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And this leads to the second life.
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I have to tell you about my friend Len,
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我得跟你们说说我的朋友兰
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to talk about why positive psychology is more than positive emotion,
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让你们知道积极心理学不仅是关于积极情绪
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more than building pleasure.
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不仅是要创造快乐
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In two of the three great arenas of life, by the time Len was 30,
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还没到30岁,兰就在生活三个方面中的两个取得了巨大成功
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Len was enormously successful.
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第一个是工作方面
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The first arena was work.
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By the time he was 20, he was an options trader.
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不到20岁他就是个期权交易家
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By the time he was 25, he was a multimillionaire
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不到25岁他就成了百万富翁
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and the head of an options trading company.
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同时是一家期权交易公司的经理
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Second, in play, he's a national champion bridge player.
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第二个是休闲方面:他是全国桥牌比赛冠军
但是在第三个方面,爱情,兰却彻底失败
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But in the third great arena of life, love, Len is an abysmal failure.
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And the reason he was, was that Len is a cold fish.
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原因就在于他对人非常冷淡(像一条冷冰冰的鱼)
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Len is an introvert.
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兰是个内向的人
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American women said to Len, when he dated them,
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他和美国女子约会的时候,她们说
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"You're no fun. You don't have positive emotion. Get lost."
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你不风趣,你没有积极情绪,滚开
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And Len was wealthy enough to be able to afford a Park Avenue psychoanalyst,
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幸好兰有足够的钱请教最好的心理分析学家
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who for five years tried to find the sexual trauma
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这位心理分析学家花了五年的时间想找到
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that had somehow locked positive emotion inside of him.
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把兰内心积极情绪封闭起来的性创伤
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But it turned out there wasn't any sexual trauma.
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但其实什么也找不到
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It turned out that --
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事实上,兰在纽约长岛长大
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Len grew up in Long Island
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and he played football and watched football, and played bridge.
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他玩橄榄球,看橄榄球比赛,还玩桥牌
兰属于积极情感最差的5%人群
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Len is in the bottom five percent of what we call positive affectivities.
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The question is: Is Len unhappy?
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问题是:兰不幸福吗?我不觉得他不幸福
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And I want to say, not.
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12:58
Contrary to what psychology told us
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和心理学家关于人类积极情感较差的50%人群
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about the bottom 50 percent of the human race in positive affectivity,
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相关研究成果恰恰相反
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I think Len is one of the happiest people I know.
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我觉得兰是我认识的最幸福的人之一
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He's not consigned to the hell of unhappiness,
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他并没有特别的不幸福
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and that's because Len, like most of you,
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这是因为兰和你们中的大多数一样,非常善于“心流”
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is enormously capable of flow.
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13:17
When he walks onto the floor of the American Exchange
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当他在早上9:30走进美国交易所的时候
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at 9:30 in the morning,
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time stops for him.
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时间仿佛停止了,直到交易所关门
13:23
And it stops till the closing bell.
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When the first card is played till 10 days later,
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当他开始打桥牌的时候
时间仿佛停止了,直到10天后比赛结束
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when the tournament is over,
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time stops for Len.
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13:31
And this is indeed what Mike Csikszentmihalyi
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这也就是迈克·齐克森米哈里所说的“心流”
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has been talking about, about flow.
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这和普通的快乐很不一样
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And it's distinct from pleasure in a very important way:
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pleasure has raw feel -- you know it's happening; it's thought and feeling.
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快乐的时候,你能感觉到自己的快乐
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But what Mike told you yesterday -- during flow ...
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但是迈克昨天在“心流”里告诉你的事情,你现在就感觉不到了
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you can't feel anything.
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13:54
You're one with the music.
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你全身心投入音乐中,时间停止了
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Time stops.
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You have intense concentration.
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你非常集中注意力
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And this is indeed the characteristic of what we think of as the good life.
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我们认为这是美好生活的特征
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And we think there's a recipe for it,
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我们还认为达到这样的生活有诀窍
14:08
and it's knowing what your highest strengths are --
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那就是了解你最大的优势
14:10
again, there's a valid test
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对了,有一个挺准的测试
测你最大的五个优势
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of what your five highest strengths are --
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14:15
and then re-crafting your life
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然后尽量多地用这些优势重新塑造你的生活
14:18
to use them as much as you possibly can.
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14:21
Re-crafting your work, your love,
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你的工作,你的爱情
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your play, your friendship, your parenting.
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你的休闲,你的友谊,你和孩子相处的方式
14:26
Just one example.
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举一个例子:我曾经研究过一个在商店里工作的装袋工
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One person I worked with was a bagger at Genuardi's.
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她很不喜欢这份工作
14:33
Hated the job.
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14:34
She's working her way through college.
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她同时在读大学
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Her highest strength was social intelligence.
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她最大的优势是善于交际
14:40
So she re-crafted bagging to make the encounter with her
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所以她很努力地
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the social highlight of every customer's day.
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让每个客人见到她就一整天心情好
很显然她失败了
14:48
Now, obviously she failed.
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14:49
But what she did was to take her highest strengths,
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但是她随后用在工作上尽量多地
14:53
and re-craft work to use them as much as possible.
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重新利用她最大的优势
14:57
What you get out of that is not smiley-ness.
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你从中得到的并不是微笑
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You don't look like Debbie Reynolds.
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你看起来不像黛比·雷诺斯
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You don't giggle a lot.
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你不经常咯咯地笑,你得到的是更加投入的精神
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What you get is more absorption.
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15:06
So, that's the second path.
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这就是那第二条路,第一条路是积极情绪
15:08
The first path, positive emotion;
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15:10
the second path is eudaemonian flow;
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第二条路是“幸福之流”
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and the third path is meaning.
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第三条路是意义
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This is the most venerable of the happinesses, traditionally.
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这在传统意义上是幸福最令人肃然起敬的部分
15:20
And meaning, in this view, consists of --
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正如第二条路,这里所说的意义
15:23
very parallel to eudaemonia --
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15:26
it consists of knowing what your highest strengths are,
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是指你要知道你最大的优势在哪里,并利用它们
15:30
and using them to belong to and in the service of
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你要在比自我更大的事业里找到归属感
15:34
something larger than you are.
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15:39
I mentioned that for all three kinds of lives --
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我刚才提到了三种生活,快乐的生活
15:43
the pleasant life, the good life, the meaningful life --
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参与的生活,有意义的生活,人们很想知道
15:46
people are now hard at work on the question:
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15:48
Are there things that lastingly change those lives?
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真的有东西可以持久地改变我们的生活吗?
15:53
And the answer seems to be yes.
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答案看来是肯定的,我来举几个例子
15:56
And I'll just give you some samples of it.
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15:59
It's being done in a rigorous manner.
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我们做很严密的测试
16:01
It's being done in the same way that we test drugs
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就像我们测验哪些药物有效一样
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to see what really works.
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16:06
So we do random-assignment, placebo-controlled,
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我们随机分配,有些人分在服用安慰剂的控制组
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long-term studies of different interventions.
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我们用各种干预措施做长期研究
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Just to sample the kind of interventions that we find have an effect:
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想找到有效果的干预措施
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when we teach people about the pleasant life,
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我们向被测试者介绍什么是快乐的生活
16:22
how to have more pleasure in your life,
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如何在生活中找到更多快乐
16:24
one of your assignments is to take the mindfulness skills,
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你的任务之一是利用你的细心和风趣
16:28
the savoring skills,
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16:30
and you're assigned to design a beautiful day.
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来设计美好的一天
16:34
Next Saturday, set a day aside, design yourself a beautiful day,
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把下个星期六空出来,给自己设计美好的一天
16:39
and use savoring and mindfulness to enhance those pleasures.
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用风趣和细心增强这些快乐
16:43
And we can show in that way that the pleasant life is enhanced.
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我们可以证明,如此快乐感真的提升了
16:49
Gratitude visit.
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另一项干预措施是感恩访问,现在如果你愿意,请跟着我做
16:53
I want you all to do this with me now, if you would.
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16:55
Close your eyes.
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闭上眼睛
16:58
I'd like you to remember someone
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我要你记起一个曾经做过很重要的事情
17:03
who did something enormously important
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17:06
that changed your life in a good direction,
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一个往好的方向改变了你一生
17:10
and who you never properly thanked.
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而你从来没有正式感谢过的人
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The person has to be alive.
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必须是个还健在的人
17:16
Now, OK, you can open your eyes.
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现在,好的,睁开眼睛
17:18
I hope all of you have such a person.
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我希望你们每个人都找到了这么一个人
17:20
Your assignment, when you're learning the gratitude visit,
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你在完成感恩访问这个任务的时候
17:24
is to write a 300-word testimonial to that person,
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得给那个人写一封300字的感谢信
17:28
call them on the phone in Phoenix,
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给他们打电话
17:31
ask if you can visit, don't tell them why.
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跟他们说你要拜访他们,不要说为什么,登门就行了
17:33
Show up at their door,
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17:36
you read the testimonial -- everyone weeps when this happens.
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然后你读感谢信给他们听——每个人在这种情况下都会掉眼泪
17:41
And what happens is, when we test people
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一个星期之后,一个月之后,三个月之后
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one week later, a month later, three months later,
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我们再进行测试,发现这些人变得更开心、不那么抑郁了
17:47
they're both happier and less depressed.
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17:51
Another example is a strengths date,
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另一个例子是优势约会
17:54
in which we get couples to identify their highest strengths
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我们找来一对对伴侣,让他们在优势测试中明确自己最大的优势
17:58
on the strengths test,
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17:59
and then to design an evening in which they both use their strengths.
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然后我们为他们设计一个双方都能利用自己优势的夜晚
18:04
We find this is a strengthener of relationships.
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我们发现这样可以增进他们的关系
18:08
And fun versus philanthropy.
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“趣味对慈善”也是一种方法
18:10
It's so heartening to be in a group like this,
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这种方法对在座各位不大适用
18:13
in which so many of you have turned your lives to philanthropy.
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因为你们中的很多人已经投身慈善了
18:17
Well, my undergraduates and the people I work with haven't discovered this,
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不过,我教的本科生和我的测试对象还不了解这其中的奥妙
18:20
so we actually have people do something altruistic
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于是我让他们做些帮助他人的事
18:24
and do something fun,
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再做些有趣的事,进行比较
18:26
and contrast it.
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18:27
And what you find is when you do something fun,
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你会发现,当你做有趣的事的时候
18:30
it has a square wave walk set.
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快乐很快消退
18:32
When you do something philanthropic to help another person,
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当你慈善地帮助别人的时候,快乐的感觉长久不退
18:35
it lasts and it lasts.
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18:38
So those are examples of positive interventions.
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这些就是积极干预的例子
18:42
So the next to last thing I want to say is:
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我想说的倒数第二件事情是
18:47
we're interested in how much life satisfaction people have.
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我们很感兴趣人们有多满意自己的人生
18:50
This is really what you're about.
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这是我们要寻找的目标变量
18:52
And that's our target variable.
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18:54
And we ask the question as a function of the three different lives,
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我们把这个问题当作三种不同人生的相互作用
18:58
how much life satisfaction do you get?
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你有多满意你的人生?
19:00
So we ask -- and we've done this in 15 replications,
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我们在15个副本里研究了几千个人
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involving thousands of people:
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19:06
To what extent does the pursuit of pleasure,
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我们想知道,对快乐的追求
19:08
the pursuit of positive emotion,
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对积极情绪、快乐生活的追求
19:11
the pleasant life,
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19:12
the pursuit of engagement, time stopping for you,
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对参与的追求、对忘记时间的状态的追求
19:15
and the pursuit of meaning contribute to life satisfaction?
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对人生意义的追求,在何种程度上影响我们对人生的满意度?
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And our results surprised us; they were backward of what we thought.
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结果出人意料
19:22
It turns out the pursuit of pleasure has almost no contribution
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研究显示,对快乐的追求基本上不影响我们对人生的满意度
19:26
to life satisfaction.
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The pursuit of meaning is the strongest.
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对意义的追求影响最大
19:30
The pursuit of engagement is also very strong.
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对参与的追求影响也很大
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Where pleasure matters is if you have both engagement
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如果你已经到达了参与和有意义的状态
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and you have meaning,
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那么快乐就可以给你的人生锦上添花
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then pleasure's the whipped cream and the cherry.
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Which is to say, the full life -- the sum is greater than the parts,
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也就是说如果三者都有,完整的人生超过各个部分的总和
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if you've got all three.
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Conversely, if you have none of the three, the empty life,
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相反地,如果这三者你都没有
生活就比各个部分的总和还要空虚
19:55
the sum is less than the parts.
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19:56
And what we're asking now is: Does the very same relationship --
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我们现在要问的是
身体健康、患病率
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physical health, morbidity, how long you live and productivity --
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寿命、生产力等,是否也存在同样的现象?
20:05
follow the same relationship?
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20:07
That is, in a corporation,
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比如在一家公司里
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is productivity a function of positive emotion, engagement and meaning?
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生产力是积极情绪、奋斗和意义的共同作用吗?
20:15
Is health a function of positive engagement,
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健康是积极情绪、快乐
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of pleasure, and of meaning in life?
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和意义的共同作用吗?
20:21
And there is reason to think the answer to both of those may well be yes.
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我们有理由相信两者的答案可能都是肯定的
20:28
So, Chris said that the last speaker had a chance
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克里斯说最后一个发言的人有机会把他之前听到的综和起来
20:32
to try to integrate what he heard,
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20:35
and so this was amazing for me.
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这对我来说太棒了,我从没参加过像这样的聚会
20:36
I've never been in a gathering like this.
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20:40
I've never seen speakers stretch beyond themselves so much,
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我从没见过演讲者发挥得这么厉害
20:44
which was one of the remarkable things.
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这是非常值得称赞的
20:47
But I found that the problems of psychology seemed to be parallel
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但是我发现心理学面临的问题很像
20:51
to the problems of technology, entertainment and design
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科技、娱乐和设计所面临的问题
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in the following way:
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we all know that technology, entertainment and design
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比如,我们都知道科技、娱乐和设计都可以用作毁灭性目的
21:00
have been and can be used for destructive purposes.
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它们也确实这样做过
21:06
We also know that technology, entertainment and design
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我们也知道科技、娱乐和设计
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can be used to relieve misery.
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都可以用来减少痛苦
21:13
And by the way, the distinction between relieving misery
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顺便说一下,减少痛苦和创造幸福
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and building happiness is extremely important.
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之间是有区别的,而且区别很重要
21:20
I thought, when I first became a therapist 30 years ago,
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30年前我刚开始从医的时候
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that if I was good enough to make someone not depressed,
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我想如果我有能力给人减少抑郁
21:29
not anxious, not angry,
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减少焦虑,减少愤怒,那我就让他们快乐了
21:33
that I'd make them happy.
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21:35
And I never found that;
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事实并非如此,最佳疗效只能是让病人归零
21:36
I found the best you could ever do
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21:38
was to get to zero;
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21:40
that they were empty.
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但他们内心空虚
21:41
And it turns out the skills of happiness, the skills of the pleasant life,
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其实快乐的技能、快乐生活的技能
21:47
the skills of engagement, the skills of meaning,
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参与的技能、找到意义的技能
21:49
are different from the skills of relieving misery.
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和减少痛苦的技能是不一样的
21:54
And so, the parallel thing holds with technology, entertainment
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我相信,同样的情况
也存在于科技、娱乐和设计上
21:59
and design, I believe.
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22:01
That is, it is possible for these three drivers of our world
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也就是说,这三种动力都能用来增加
22:08
to increase happiness,
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人们的幸福感和积极情绪
22:10
to increase positive emotion.
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22:13
And that's typically how they've been used.
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人们也确实在这样使用它们
22:16
But once you fractionate happiness the way I do --
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但是如果你像我一样分解快乐
22:19
not just positive emotion, that's not nearly enough --
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你会发现快乐不只是积极情绪——那是不够的——
22:22
there's flow in life, and there's meaning in life.
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快乐还包括生活的心流以及人生的意义
22:25
As Laura Lee told us,
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正如劳拉莉告诉我们的
22:27
design and, I believe, entertainment and technology,
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设计、娱乐和科技
22:30
can be used to increase meaning engagement in life as well.
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也可以用来增强人生的意义和参与
22:35
So in conclusion,
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所以,总而言之,在“太空升降机”的概念以外
22:37
the eleventh reason for optimism,
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22:39
in addition to the space elevator,
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乐观向上的第11个理由
22:42
is that I think with technology, entertainment and design,
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就是我们可以利用科技、娱乐和设计
22:48
we can actually increase the amount of tonnage
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增加这个星球上
22:51
of human happiness on the planet.
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人类幸福的分量
22:54
And if technology can, in the next decade or two,
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如果科技能在接下来的十年或者二十年里增加人们快乐的生活
22:58
increase the pleasant life, the good life and the meaningful life,
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参与的生活,和有意义的生活,就足够好了
23:02
it will be good enough.
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23:04
If entertainment can be diverted to also increase positive emotion,
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如果娱乐也可以增加积极情绪
23:10
meaning eudaemonia,
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人生意义,以及幸福感,就足够好了
23:13
it will be good enough.
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23:14
And if design can increase positive emotion,
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如果设计也可以增加积极情绪
23:20
eudaemonia, and flow and meaning,
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幸福感,心流,还有人生意义
23:23
what we're all doing together will become good enough.
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那我们共同做的这一切就会足够好了,谢谢大家
23:27
Thank you.
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23:28
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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