The new era of positive psychology | Martin Seligman

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When I was President of the American Psychological Association,
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they tried to media-train me.
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And an encounter I had with CNN summarizes
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what I'm going to be talking about today,
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which is the eleventh reason to be optimistic.
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The editor of Discover told us 10 of them;
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I'm going to give you the eleventh.
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So they came to me, CNN, and they said, "Professor Seligman --
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would you tell us about the state of psychology today?
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We'd like to interview you about that."
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And I said, "Great."
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And she said, "But this is CNN, so you only get a sound bite."
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I said, "Well, how many words do I get?"
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And she said, "Well, one."
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(Laughter)
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And the cameras rolled, and she said,
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"Professor Seligman, what is the state of psychology today?"
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"Good."
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(Laughter)
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"Cut! Cut. That won't do.
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We'd really better give you a longer sound bite."
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"How many words do I get this time?"
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"Well, you get two."
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(Laughter)
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"Doctor Seligman, what is the state of psychology today?"
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"Not good."
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(Laughter)
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"Look, Doctor Seligman,
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we can see you're really not comfortable in this medium.
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We'd better give you a real sound bite.
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This time you can have three words.
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Professor Seligman, what is the state of psychology today?"
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"Not good enough."
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That's what I'm going to be talking about.
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I want to say why psychology was good, why it was not good,
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and how it may become, in the next 10 years, good enough.
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And by parallel summary, I want to say the same thing about technology,
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about entertainment and design,
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because I think the issues are very similar.
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So, why was psychology good?
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Well, for more than 60 years, psychology worked within the disease model.
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Ten years ago, when I was on an airplane
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and I introduced myself to my seatmate, and told them what I did,
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they'd move away from me,
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because, quite rightly, they were saying
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psychology is about finding what's wrong with you.
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Spot the loony.
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And now, when I tell people what I do, they move toward me.
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What was good about psychology --
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about the $30 billion investment NIMH made,
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about working in the disease model,
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about what you mean by psychology --
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is that, 60 years ago, none of the disorders were treatable;
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it was entirely smoke and mirrors.
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And now, 14 of the disorders are treatable,
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two of them actually curable.
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And the other thing that happened is that a science developed,
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a science of mental illness.
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We found out we could take fuzzy concepts
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like depression, alcoholism,
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and measure them with rigor;
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that we could create a classification of the mental illnesses;
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that we could understand the causality of the mental illnesses.
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We could look across time at the same people --
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people, for example, who were genetically vulnerable to schizophrenia --
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and ask what the contribution of mothering, of genetics are,
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and we could isolate third variables
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by doing experiments on the mental illnesses.
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And best of all, we were able, in the last 50 years,
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to invent drug treatments and psychological treatments.
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And then we were able to test them rigorously,
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in random-assignment, placebo-controlled designs,
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throw out the things that didn't work,
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keep the things that actively did.
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The conclusion of that is,
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psychology and psychiatry of the last 60 years
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can actually claim that we can make miserable people less miserable.
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And I think that's terrific.
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I'm proud of it.
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But what was not good, the consequences of that,
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were three things.
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The first was moral;
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that psychologists and psychiatrists became victimologists, pathologizers;
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that our view of human nature was that if you were in trouble,
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bricks fell on you.
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And we forgot that people made choices and decisions.
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We forgot responsibility.
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That was the first cost.
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The second cost was that we forgot about you people.
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We forgot about improving normal lives.
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We forgot about a mission to make relatively untroubled people happier,
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more fulfilled, more productive.
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And "genius," "high-talent," became a dirty word.
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No one works on that.
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And the third problem about the disease model is,
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in our rush to do something about people in trouble,
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in our rush to do something about repairing damage,
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it never occurred to us to develop interventions
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to make people happier -- positive interventions.
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So that was not good.
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And so that's what led people like Nancy Etcoff, Dan Gilbert,
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Mike Csikszentmihalyi and myself
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to work in something I call, "positive psychology,"
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which has three aims.
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The first is that psychology should be just as concerned
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with human strength as it is with weakness.
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It should be just as concerned with building strength
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as with repairing damage.
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It should be interested in the best things in life.
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And it should be just as concerned
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with making the lives of normal people fulfilling,
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and with genius, with nurturing high talent.
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So in the last 10 years and the hope for the future,
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we've seen the beginnings of a science of positive psychology,
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a science of what makes life worth living.
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It turns out that we can measure different forms of happiness.
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And any of you, for free, can go to that website --
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[www.authentichappiness.org]
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and take the entire panoply of tests of happiness.
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You can ask, how do you stack up for positive emotion, for meaning,
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for flow, against literally tens of thousands of other people?
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We created the opposite of the diagnostic manual of the insanities:
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a classification of the strengths and virtues that looks at the sex ratio,
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how they're defined, how to diagnose them,
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what builds them and what gets in their way.
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We found that we could discover the causation of the positive states,
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the relationship between left hemispheric activity
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and right hemispheric activity, as a cause of happiness.
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I've spent my life working on extremely miserable people,
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and I've asked the question:
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How do extremely miserable people differ from the rest of you?
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And starting about six years ago, we asked about extremely happy people.
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How do they differ from the rest of us?
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It turns out there's one way, very surprising --
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they're not more religious, they're not in better shape,
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they don't have more money, they're not better looking,
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they don't have more good events and fewer bad events.
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The one way in which they differ: they're extremely social.
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They don't sit in seminars on Saturday morning.
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(Laughter)
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They don't spend time alone.
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Each of them is in a romantic relationship
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and each has a rich repertoire of friends.
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But watch out here -- this is merely correlational data, not causal,
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and it's about happiness in the first, "Hollywood" sense,
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I'm going to talk about,
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happiness of ebullience and giggling and good cheer.
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And I'm going to suggest to you that's not nearly enough,
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in just a moment.
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We found we could begin to look at interventions over the centuries,
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from the Buddha to Tony Robbins.
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About 120 interventions have been proposed that allegedly make people happy.
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And we find that we've been able to manualize many of them,
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and we actually carry out
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random-assignment efficacy and effectiveness studies.
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That is, which ones actually make people lastingly happier?
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In a couple of minutes, I'll tell you about some of those results.
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But the upshot of this is that the mission I want psychology to have,
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in addition to its mission of curing the mentally ill,
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and in addition to its mission of making miserable people less miserable,
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is, can psychology actually make people happier?
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And to ask that question -- "happy" is not a word I use very much --
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we've had to break it down
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into what I think is askable about "happy."
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And I believe there are three different --
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I call them "different" because different interventions build them,
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it's possible to have one rather than the other --
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three different happy lives.
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The first happy life is the pleasant life.
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This is a life in which you have as much positive emotion
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as you possibly can,
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and the skills to amplify it.
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The second is a life of engagement:
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a life in your work, your parenting, your love, your leisure;
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time stops for you.
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That's what Aristotle was talking about.
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And third, the meaningful life.
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I want to say a little bit about each of those lives
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and what we know about them.
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The first life is the pleasant life, and it's simply, as best we can find it,
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it's having as many of the pleasures as you can,
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as much positive emotion as you can,
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and learning the skills -- savoring, mindfulness -- that amplify them,
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that stretch them over time and space.
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But the pleasant life has three drawbacks,
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and it's why positive psychology is not happy-ology,
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and why it doesn't end here.
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The first drawback is, it turns out the pleasant life,
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your experience of positive emotion,
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is about 50 percent heritable,
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and, in fact, not very modifiable.
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So the different tricks that Matthieu and I and others know
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about increasing the amount of positive emotion in your life
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are 15 to 20 percent tricks, getting more of it.
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Second is that positive emotion habituates.
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It habituates rapidly, indeed.
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It's all like French vanilla ice cream:
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the first taste is 100 percent;
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by the time you're down to the sixth taste,
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it's gone.
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And, as I said, it's not particularly malleable.
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And this leads to the second life.
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I have to tell you about my friend Len,
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to talk about why positive psychology is more than positive emotion,
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more than building pleasure.
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In two of the three great arenas of life, by the time Len was 30,
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Len was enormously successful.
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The first arena was work.
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By the time he was 20, he was an options trader.
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By the time he was 25, he was a multimillionaire
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and the head of an options trading company.
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Second, in play, he's a national champion bridge player.
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But in the third great arena of life, love, Len is an abysmal failure.
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And the reason he was, was that Len is a cold fish.
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(Laughter)
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Len is an introvert.
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American women said to Len, when he dated them,
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"You're no fun. You don't have positive emotion. Get lost."
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And Len was wealthy enough to be able to afford a Park Avenue psychoanalyst,
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who for five years tried to find the sexual trauma
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that had somehow locked positive emotion inside of him.
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But it turned out there wasn't any sexual trauma.
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It turned out that --
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Len grew up in Long Island
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and he played football and watched football, and played bridge.
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Len is in the bottom five percent of what we call positive affectivities.
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The question is: Is Len unhappy?
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And I want to say, not.
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Contrary to what psychology told us
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about the bottom 50 percent of the human race in positive affectivity,
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I think Len is one of the happiest people I know.
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He's not consigned to the hell of unhappiness,
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and that's because Len, like most of you,
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is enormously capable of flow.
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When he walks onto the floor of the American Exchange
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at 9:30 in the morning,
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time stops for him.
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And it stops till the closing bell.
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When the first card is played till 10 days later,
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when the tournament is over,
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time stops for Len.
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And this is indeed what Mike Csikszentmihalyi
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has been talking about, about flow.
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And it's distinct from pleasure in a very important way:
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pleasure has raw feel -- you know it's happening; it's thought and feeling.
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But what Mike told you yesterday -- during flow ...
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you can't feel anything.
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You're one with the music.
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Time stops.
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You have intense concentration.
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And this is indeed the characteristic of what we think of as the good life.
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And we think there's a recipe for it,
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and it's knowing what your highest strengths are --
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again, there's a valid test
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of what your five highest strengths are --
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and then re-crafting your life
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to use them as much as you possibly can.
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Re-crafting your work, your love,
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your play, your friendship, your parenting.
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Just one example.
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One person I worked with was a bagger at Genuardi's.
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Hated the job.
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She's working her way through college.
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Her highest strength was social intelligence.
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So she re-crafted bagging to make the encounter with her
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the social highlight of every customer's day.
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Now, obviously she failed.
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But what she did was to take her highest strengths,
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and re-craft work to use them as much as possible.
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What you get out of that is not smiley-ness.
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You don't look like Debbie Reynolds.
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You don't giggle a lot.
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What you get is more absorption.
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So, that's the second path.
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The first path, positive emotion;
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the second path is eudaemonian flow;
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and the third path is meaning.
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This is the most venerable of the happinesses, traditionally.
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And meaning, in this view, consists of --
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very parallel to eudaemonia --
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it consists of knowing what your highest strengths are,
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and using them to belong to and in the service of
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something larger than you are.
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I mentioned that for all three kinds of lives --
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the pleasant life, the good life, the meaningful life --
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people are now hard at work on the question:
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Are there things that lastingly change those lives?
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And the answer seems to be yes.
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And I'll just give you some samples of it.
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It's being done in a rigorous manner.
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It's being done in the same way that we test drugs
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to see what really works.
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So we do random-assignment, placebo-controlled,
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long-term studies of different interventions.
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Just to sample the kind of interventions that we find have an effect:
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when we teach people about the pleasant life,
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how to have more pleasure in your life,
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one of your assignments is to take the mindfulness skills,
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the savoring skills,
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and you're assigned to design a beautiful day.
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Next Saturday, set a day aside, design yourself a beautiful day,
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and use savoring and mindfulness to enhance those pleasures.
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And we can show in that way that the pleasant life is enhanced.
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Gratitude visit.
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I want you all to do this with me now, if you would.
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Close your eyes.
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I'd like you to remember someone
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who did something enormously important
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that changed your life in a good direction,
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and who you never properly thanked.
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The person has to be alive.
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Now, OK, you can open your eyes.
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I hope all of you have such a person.
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Your assignment, when you're learning the gratitude visit,
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is to write a 300-word testimonial to that person,
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call them on the phone in Phoenix,
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ask if you can visit, don't tell them why.
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Show up at their door,
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you read the testimonial -- everyone weeps when this happens.
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And what happens is, when we test people
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one week later, a month later, three months later,
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they're both happier and less depressed.
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Another example is a strengths date,
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in which we get couples to identify their highest strengths
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on the strengths test,
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and then to design an evening in which they both use their strengths.
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We find this is a strengthener of relationships.
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And fun versus philanthropy.
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It's so heartening to be in a group like this,
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in which so many of you have turned your lives to philanthropy.
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Well, my undergraduates and the people I work with haven't discovered this,
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so we actually have people do something altruistic
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and do something fun,
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and contrast it.
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And what you find is when you do something fun,
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it has a square wave walk set.
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When you do something philanthropic to help another person,
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it lasts and it lasts.
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So those are examples of positive interventions.
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So the next to last thing I want to say is:
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we're interested in how much life satisfaction people have.
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This is really what you're about.
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And that's our target variable.
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And we ask the question as a function of the three different lives,
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how much life satisfaction do you get?
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So we ask -- and we've done this in 15 replications,
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involving thousands of people:
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To what extent does the pursuit of pleasure,
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the pursuit of positive emotion,
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the pleasant life,
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the pursuit of engagement, time stopping for you,
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and the pursuit of meaning contribute to life satisfaction?
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And our results surprised us; they were backward of what we thought.
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It turns out the pursuit of pleasure has almost no contribution
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to life satisfaction.
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The pursuit of meaning is the strongest.
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The pursuit of engagement is also very strong.
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Where pleasure matters is if you have both engagement
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and you have meaning,
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then pleasure's the whipped cream and the cherry.
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Which is to say, the full life -- the sum is greater than the parts,
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if you've got all three.
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Conversely, if you have none of the three, the empty life,
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the sum is less than the parts.
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And what we're asking now is: Does the very same relationship --
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physical health, morbidity, how long you live and productivity --
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follow the same relationship?
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That is, in a corporation,
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is productivity a function of positive emotion, engagement and meaning?
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Is health a function of positive engagement,
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of pleasure, and of meaning in life?
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And there is reason to think the answer to both of those may well be yes.
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So, Chris said that the last speaker had a chance
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to try to integrate what he heard,
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and so this was amazing for me.
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I've never been in a gathering like this.
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I've never seen speakers stretch beyond themselves so much,
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which was one of the remarkable things.
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But I found that the problems of psychology seemed to be parallel
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to the problems of technology, entertainment and design
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in the following way:
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we all know that technology, entertainment and design
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have been and can be used for destructive purposes.
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We also know that technology, entertainment and design
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can be used to relieve misery.
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And by the way, the distinction between relieving misery
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and building happiness is extremely important.
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I thought, when I first became a therapist 30 years ago,
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that if I was good enough to make someone not depressed,
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not anxious, not angry,
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that I'd make them happy.
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And I never found that;
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I found the best you could ever do
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was to get to zero;
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that they were empty.
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And it turns out the skills of happiness, the skills of the pleasant life,
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the skills of engagement, the skills of meaning,
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are different from the skills of relieving misery.
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And so, the parallel thing holds with technology, entertainment
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and design, I believe.
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That is, it is possible for these three drivers of our world
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to increase happiness,
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to increase positive emotion.
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And that's typically how they've been used.
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But once you fractionate happiness the way I do --
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not just positive emotion, that's not nearly enough --
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there's flow in life, and there's meaning in life.
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As Laura Lee told us,
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design and, I believe, entertainment and technology,
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can be used to increase meaning engagement in life as well.
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So in conclusion,
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the eleventh reason for optimism,
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in addition to the space elevator,
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is that I think with technology, entertainment and design,
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we can actually increase the amount of tonnage
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of human happiness on the planet.
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And if technology can, in the next decade or two,
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increase the pleasant life, the good life and the meaningful life,
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it will be good enough.
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If entertainment can be diverted to also increase positive emotion,
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meaning eudaemonia,
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it will be good enough.
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And if design can increase positive emotion,
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eudaemonia, and flow and meaning,
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what we're all doing together will become good enough.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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