How movies teach manhood | Colin Stokes

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Translator: Morton Bast Reviewer: Thu-Huong Ha
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Prevodilac: Andrea Jovanovic Lektor: Boško Eraković
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You know, my favorite part of being a dad
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Znate, moj omiljeni deo očinstva
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is the movies I get to watch.
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su filmovi koje mogu da gledam.
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I love sharing my favorite movies with my kids,
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Volim da podelim omiljene filmove sa svojom decom
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and when my daughter was four,
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i kad mi je ćerka imala četiri godine,
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we got to watch "The Wizard of Oz" together.
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gledali smo zajedno "Čarobnjak iz Oza".
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It totally dominated her imagination for months.
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U potpunosti je vladao njenom maštom mesecima.
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Her favorite character was Glinda, of course.
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Njen omiljeni lik je bila Glinda, naravno.
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It gave her a great excuse to wear a sparkly dress
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Dao joj je sjajan izgovor da nosi svetlucavu haljinu
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and carry a wand.
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i štapić.
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But you watch that movie enough times,
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Znate, ukoliko gledate film dovoljno puta,
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and you start to realize how unusual it is.
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počnete shvatati koliko je neobičan.
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Now we live today, and are raising our children,
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Živimo u današnjici i odgajamo svoju decu,
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in a kind of children's-fantasy-spectacular-industrial complex.
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u nekoj vrsti spektakularnog industrijskog kompleksa dečije fantazije.
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But "The Wizard of Oz" stood alone.
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Ali "Čarobnjak iz Oza" je stajao sam.
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It did not start that trend.
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Nije započeo takav trend.
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Forty years later was when the trend really caught on,
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Četrdeset godina kasnije se trend zaista prihvatio,
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with, interestingly, another movie
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sa, zanimljivo, drugim filmom
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that featured a metal guy
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gde jedan metalni lik
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and a furry guy
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i krznati lik
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rescuing a girl by dressing up as the enemy's guards.
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spašavali devojku obučeni kao neprijateljski čuvari.
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Do you know what I'm talking about? (Laughter)
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Da li znate o čemu pričam? (Smeh)
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Yeah.
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Da.
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Now, there's a big difference between these two movies,
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Postoji velika razlika između ova dva filma,
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a couple of really big differences between "The Wizard of Oz"
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nekoliko zaista značajnih razlika između filma "Čarobnjak iz Oza"
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and all the movies we watch today.
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i svih filmova koje danas gledamo.
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One is there's very little violence in "The Wizard of Oz."
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Jedna od njih je vrlo malo nasilja u "Čarobnjaku iz Oza".
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The monkeys are rather aggressive, as are the apple trees.
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Majmuni su agresivni koliko i drveće jabuke.
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But I think if "The Wizard of Oz" were made today,
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Ali mislim da je "Čarobnjak iz Oza" snimljen danas,
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the wizard would say, "Dorothy, you are the savior of Oz
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čarobnjak bi rekao: "Doroti, ti si spasilac Oza
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that the prophecy foretold.
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koga je pročanstvo predskazalo.
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Use your magic slippers to defeat
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Upotrebi svoje magične cipele da poraziš
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the computer-generated armies of the Wicked Witch."
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kompjuterski stvorene armije zle veštice."
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But that's not how it happens.
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Ne dešava se to tako.
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Another thing that's really unique about "The Wizard of Oz"
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Još jedna stvar koja je zaista jedinstvena kod "Čarobnjaka iz Oza" jeste ta
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to me is that all of the most heroic
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što su svi herojski,
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and wise and even villainous characters
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mudri, čak i zli likovi
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are female.
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ženski likovi.
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Now I started to notice this
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Ovo sam počeo da zapažam
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when I actually showed "Star Wars" to my daughter,
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kada sam pokazao "Star Wars" svojo ćerki,
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which was years later, and the situation was different.
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što je bilo godinama kasnije i situacija je bila drugačija.
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At that point I also had a son.
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Tad sam imao već i sina.
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He was only three at the time.
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On je imao samo 3 godine tad.
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He was not invited to the screening. He was too young for that.
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Nismo mu dozvolili da gleda. Bio je previše mlad za to.
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But he was the second child,
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Ali on je bio drugo dete
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and the level of supervision had plummeted. (Laughter)
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i nivo nadzora je opao. (Smeh)
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So he wandered in,
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Ušetao je unutra
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and it imprinted on him
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i to je na njega imalo uticaj
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like a mommy duck does to its duckling,
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kao što mama-patka ima na svoje pače
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and I don't think he understands what's going on,
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i mislim da ne razume šta se dešava,
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but he is sure soaking in it.
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ali je potpuno obuzet time.
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And I wonder what he's soaking in.
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Pitam se čime je obuzet.
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Is he picking up on the themes of courage
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Da li shvata pojmove hrabrosti,
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and perseverance and loyalty?
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upornosti i lojalnosti?
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Is he picking up on the fact that Luke
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Da li shvata da se Luk
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joins an army to overthrow the government?
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priključuje vojsci da bi srušio vladu?
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Is he picking up on the fact that
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Da li zaključuje
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there are only boys in the universe
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da postoje samo momci u univerzumu,
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except for Aunt Beru, and of course this princess,
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izuzev Tetke Beru i naravno, ove princeze
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who's really cool, but who kind of waits around through most of the movie
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koja je zaista kul ali koja nekako stalno čeka tokom filma
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so that she can award the hero with a medal and a wink
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da bi mogla da nagradi heroja medaljom i namigne mu
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to thank him for saving the universe, which he does
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da mu se zahvali što je spasao svemir
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by the magic that he was born with?
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što on čini magijom sa kojom je rođen.
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Compare this to 1939 with "The Wizard of Oz."
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Uporedite ovo sa 1939. i "Čarobnjakom iz Oza".
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How does Dorothy win her movie?
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Kako Doroti pobeđuje?
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By making friends with everybody
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Tako što se sprijatelji sa svima
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and being a leader.
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i liderstvom.
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That's kind of the world I'd rather raise my kids in --
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U takvom svetu želim da odgajam svoju decu -
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Oz, right? -- and not the world of dudes fighting,
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Oz, je l' tako? - a ne svet momaka u tučama,
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which is where we kind of have to be.
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u kome nekako i moramo biti.
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Why is there so much Force -- capital F, Force --
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Zašto ima toliko nasilja, sa velikim N kod nasilja,
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in the movies we have for our kids,
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u filmovima za našu decu,
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and so little yellow brick road?
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i tako malo Puteva od žutih cigala?
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There is a lot of great writing about the impact
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Postoji mnogo sjajnih dela o uticaju
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that the boy-violent movie has on girls,
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koje imaju filmovi muškog nasilja na devojke,
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and you should do that reading. It's very good.
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i trebalo bi da ih pročitate. Veoma su dobre.
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I haven't read as much on how boys are picking up on this vibe.
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Nisam pročitao kako momci shvataju ove poruke.
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I know from my own experience that
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Znam iz ličnog iskustva da
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Princess Leia did not provide the adequate context
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Princeza Leja nije dala adekvatan kontekst
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that I could have used in navigating the adult world
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koji bih mogao upotrebiti u navigaciji sveta odraslih
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that is co-ed. (Laughter)
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koji je mešovit. (Smeh)
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I think there was a first-kiss moment
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Znate, postojao je svojevrstan momenat prvog poljupca
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when I really expected the credits to start rolling
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kad sam zaista očekivao da će početi špica
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because that's the end of the movie, right?
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jer to je kraj filma, zar ne?
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I finished my quest, I got the girl.
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Ispunio sam zadatak, dobio sam devojku.
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Why are you still standing there?
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Zašto još uvek stojiš tu?
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I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
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Ne znam šta bi trebalo da radim.
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The movies are very, very focused on defeating the villain
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Filmovi su veoma, veoma fokusirani na pobedu nad zlikovcima
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and getting your reward, and there's not a lot of room
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i dobijanje nagrade i nema mnogo mesta
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for other relationships and other journeys.
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za ostale veze i putovanja.
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It's almost as though if you're a boy,
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To je otprilike kao da, ako ste dečak,
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you are a dopey animal,
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onda ste blentava životinja,
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and if you are a girl, you should bring your warrior costume.
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a ako ste devojčica, morate nositi svoj ratnički kostim.
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There are plenty of exceptions,
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Mislim, postoji gomila izuzetaka
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and I will defend the Disney princesses in front of any you.
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i zaštitiću sve Diznijeve princeze pred bilo kim od vas.
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But they do send a message to boys,
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Ali oni šalju poruku i dečacima.
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that they are not, the boys are not really the target audience.
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Dečaci nisu baš ciljna publika.
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They are doing a phenomenal job of teaching girls
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Oni čine fenomenalan posao podučavajući devojčice
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how to defend against the patriarchy,
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kako da se zaštite protiv patrijarhata,
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but they are not necessarily showing boys
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ali ne pokazuju nužno i dečacima
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how they're supposed to defend against the patriarchy.
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kako bi oni trebalo da se zaštite od patrijarhata.
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There's no models for them.
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Nema uzora za njih.
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And we also have some terrific women
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I takođe imamo sjajne žene
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who are writing new stories for our kids,
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koje pišu nove priče za našu decu
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and as three-dimensional and delightful as Hermione and Katniss are,
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I koliko god da su trodimenzionalne i izvrsne Hermiona i Katnis,
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these are still war movies.
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ovo su i dalje ratni filmovi.
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And, of course, the most successful studio of all time
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I naravno, najuspešniji studio svih vremena
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continues to crank out classic after classic,
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nastavlja da izbacuje klasik za klasikom,
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every single one of them about
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u svakom od njih se radi
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the journey of a boy, or a man,
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o putovanju dečaka ili muškarca
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or two men who are friends, or a man and his son,
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ili dva muškarca koji su prijatelji ili muškarca i njegovog sina
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or two men who are raising a little girl.
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ili dva muškarca koji odgajaju devojčicu.
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Until, as many of you are thinking, this year,
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Do, kao što i mnogi od vas pomišljaju, ove godine
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when they finally came out with "Brave."
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kad su se konačno pojavili sa filmom "Brave".
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I recommend it to all of you. It's on demand now.
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Preporučujem svima vama. Ima ga na videu.
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Do you remember what the critics said when "Brave" came out?
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Sećate se šta su kritičari rekli kad se "Brave" pojavio?
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"Aw, I can't believe Pixar made a princess movie."
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"Ah, ne mogu da verujem, Piksar je napravio film o princezi".
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It's very good. Don't let that stop you.
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Veoma je dobar. Ne dozvolite da vas to zaustavi.
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Now, almost none of these movies pass the Bechdel Test.
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E sad, skoro nijedan od ovih filmova nije položio Bekdel test.
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I don't know if you've heard of this.
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Ne znam da li ste čuli.
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It has not yet caught on and caught fire,
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Još nije upalilo,
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but maybe today we will start a movement.
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ali možda danas pokrenemo pokret.
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Alison Bechdel is a comic book artist,
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Alison Bekdel je ilustrator stripova
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and back in the mid-'80s, she recorded this conversation
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i sredinom 80-tih je snimila razgovor vođen
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she'd had with a friend about assessing the movies that they saw.
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sa jednim prijateljem, o ocenjivanju filmova koje su videli.
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And it's very simple. There's just three questions you should ask:
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Jako je jednostavno. Samo tri pitanja treba da postavite:
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Is there more than one character in the movie
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Da li ima više od jednog ženskog lika u filmu
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that is female who has lines?
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koji ima tekst?
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So try to meet that bar.
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Dakle, pokušajte da ispunite taj kriterijum.
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And do these women talk to each other at any point in the movie?
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Da li ove žene pričaju međusobno u filmu?
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And is their conversation about something other than
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I da li razgovaraju o nečemu drugom
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the guy that they both like? (Laughter)
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osim o momku koji se obema sviđa? (Smeh)
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Right? Thank you. (Applause)
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Je l' tako? Hvala vam. (Alpauz)
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Thank you very much.
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Hvala vam puno.
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Two women who exist and talk to each other about stuff.
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Dve žene koje postoje i pričaju jedna s drugom o stvarima.
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It does happen. I've seen it,
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Dešava se. Video sam to
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and yet I very rarely see it in the movies
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i do sad sam retko viđao u filmovima
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that we know and love.
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koje znamo i volimo.
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In fact, this week I went to see
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U stvari, ove nedelje sam otišao da vidim
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a very high-quality movie, "Argo."
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veoma kvalitetan film, "Argo".
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Right? Oscar buzz, doing great at the box office,
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Da? Kandidat za Oskara, sjajno prolazi na blagajnama,
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a consensus idea of what a quality Hollywood film is.
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pokazatelj šta je kvalitetan holivudski film.
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It pretty much flunks the Bechdel test.
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Ali pada na Bekdel testu.
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And I don't think it should, because a lot of the movie,
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Ne mislim da bi trebalo, jer većina filma,
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I don't know if you've seen it, but a lot of the movie
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ne znam da li ste gledali, ali većina filma
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takes place in this embassy where men and women
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se odigrava u ambasadi gde se muškarci i žene
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are hiding out during the hostage crisis.
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skrivaju za vreme talačke krize.
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We've got quite a few scenes of the men
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Imamo nekoliko scena sa muškarcima kako
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having deep, angst-ridden conversations in this hideout,
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imaju duboke, smirene razgovore u skrovištu
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and the great moment for one of the actresses is
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i veliki momenat za jednu od glumica je
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to peek through the door and say, "Are you coming to bed, honey?"
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da virne kroz vrata i kaže: "Dolaziš u krevet, dragi?"
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That's Hollywood for you.
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To vam je Holivud.
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So let's look at the numbers.
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Dakle, da pogledamo brojke.
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2011, of the 100 most popular movies,
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2011., sto najpopularhijih filmova,
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how many of them do you think actually have female protagonists?
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Šta vi mislite koliko od njih ima zapravo ženske protagoniste?
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Eleven. It's not bad.
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Jedanaest. Nije loše.
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It's not as many percent as the number of women
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Nije veliki procenat kao što je broj žena
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we've just elected to Congress, so that's good.
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koje smo upravo izabrali za Kongres, to je dobro.
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But there is a number that is greater than this
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Ali postoji broj koji je veći od ovog,
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that's going to bring this room down.
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koji će iznenaditi ovu salu.
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Last year, The New York Times published a study
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Prošle godine, Njujork Tajms je objavio studiju
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that the government had done.
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koju je vlada sprovela.
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Here's what it said.
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Evo šta kaže.
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One out of five women in America
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Jedna od pet žena u Americi kaže
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say that they have been sexually assaulted some time in their life.
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da je bila seksualno zlostavljana nekad u svom životu.
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Now, I don't think that's the fault of popular entertainment.
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Ne mislim da je to krivica popularne zabave.
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I don't think kids' movies have anything to do with that.
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Ne mislim da filmovi za decu imaju išta sa tim.
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I don't even think that
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Čak ni ne mislim da
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music videos or pornography are really directly related to that,
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muzički spotovi ili pornografija imaju direktnu vezu sa tim,
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but something is going wrong,
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ali nešto ne ide kako treba
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and when I hear that statistic,
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i kad čujem tu statistiku,
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one of the things I think of is
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jedna od stvari na koje pomislim je,
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that's a lot of sexual assailants.
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to je mnogo seksualnih siledžija.
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Who are these guys? What are they learning?
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Ko su ovi momci? Šta oni uče?
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What are they failing to learn?
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Šta ne uspevaju da nauče?
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Are they absorbing the story that
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Da li oni prihvataju priču
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a male hero's job is to defeat the villain with violence
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da je posao muškaraca heroja da poraze zlikovca nasiljem
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and then collect the reward, which is a woman
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i onda pokupe nagradu, a to je žena
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who has no friends and doesn't speak?
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koja nema prijatelje i ne govori?
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Are we soaking up that story?
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Da li mi upijamo tu priču?
09:37
You know,
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Znate,
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as a parent with the privilege
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kao roditelj sa privilegijom
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of raising a daughter
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da odgajam ćerku,
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like all of you who are doing the same thing,
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kao i svi vi koji radite istu stvar,
09:48
we find this world and this statistic very alarming
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smatramo ovakav svet i ovu statistiku veoma alarmantnom
09:51
and we want to prepare them.
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i mi želimo da ih pripremimo.
09:53
We have tools at our disposal like "girl power,"
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Imamo sredstva na raspolaganju kao što je žensko zajedništvo
09:57
and we hope that that will help,
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i nadamo se da će pomoći,
10:00
but I gotta wonder, is girl power going to protect them
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ali zapitao sam se, da li će ih žensko zajedništvo zaštititi
10:03
if, at the same time, actively or passively,
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ako u isto vreme, aktivno ili pasivno,
10:06
we are training our sons to maintain their boy power?
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učimo svoje sinove da održe svoju momačku moć?
10:11
I mean, I think the Netflix queue
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Mislim, smatram da je lista filmova na Netflixu
10:14
is one way that we can do something very important,
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jedan od načina da uradimo nešto jako važno.
10:17
and I'm talking mainly to the dads here.
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I ovde većinom govorim očevima.
10:20
I think we have got to show our sons
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Mislim da moramo pokazati našim sinovima
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a new definition of manhood.
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jednu novu definiciju muževnosti.
10:25
The definition of manhood is already turning upside down.
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Definicija muževnosti se već izobrazila.
10:30
You've read about how the new economy
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Čitali ste o tome kako nova ekonomija
10:32
is changing the roles of caregiver and wage earner.
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menja uloge negovatelja i onih koji zarađuju pare.
10:35
They're throwing it up in the air.
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Svi smo toga svesni.
10:37
So our sons are going to have to find some way
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Naši sinovi će morati da pronađu neki način
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of adapting to this, some new relationship with each other,
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prilagođavanja ovome, ovim novim međusobnim odnosima
10:42
and I think we really have to show them, and model for them,
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i mislim da ih zaista moramo naučiti i pokazati im,
10:46
how a real man
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kako je pravi muškarac
10:50
is someone who trusts his sisters
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neko ko veruje svojim sestrama
10:54
and respects them, and wants to be on their team,
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i poštuje ih i želi da bude u njihovom timu
10:57
and stands up against the real bad guys,
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i protivi se pravim lošim momcima,
11:01
who are the men who want to abuse the women.
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a to su muškarci koji žele da zlostavljaju žene.
11:04
And I think our job in the Netflix queue
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I mislim da je naš zadatak na Netflix listi
11:07
is to look out for those movies that pass the Bechdel Test,
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da tražimo takve filmove koji su položili Bekdel test,
11:11
if we can find them, and to seek out the heroines
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ako ih možemo pronaći i da pronađemo heroine,
11:16
who are there,
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koje postoje,
11:17
who show real courage, who bring people together,
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koje pokazuju hrabrost, koje spajaju ljude
11:21
and to nudge our sons to identify with those heroines
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i teraju naše sinove da se poistovete sa tim heroinama
11:24
and to say, "I want to be on their team,"
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i kažu: "Želim da budem u njihovom timu,"
11:28
because they're going to be on their team.
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jer će oni biti u njihovom timu.
11:33
When I asked my daughter who her favorite character was in "Star Wars,"
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Kad sam pitao svoju ćerku ko je njen omiljeni karakter u "Ratovima zvezda",
11:36
do you know what she said?
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znate šta je rekla?
11:38
Obi-Wan.
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Obi-Van.
11:41
Obi-Wan Kenobi and Glinda.
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Obi-Van Kenobi i Glinda.
11:45
What do these two have in common?
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Šta je kod njih slično?
11:48
Maybe it's not just the sparkly dress.
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Možda nije samo svetlucava haljina.
11:50
I think these people are experts.
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Mislim da su ovi ljudi stručnjaci.
11:54
I think these are the two people in the movie
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Mislim da su upravo oni ti u filmu
11:55
who know more than anybody else,
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koji znaju više od ostalih
11:57
and they love sharing their knowledge with other people
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i vole da dele svoje znanje sa drugim ljudima,
12:00
to help them reach their potential.
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da im pomognu da dostignu svoj potencijal.
12:03
Now, they are leaders.
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Oni su vođe.
12:05
I like that kind of quest for my daughter,
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Volim takvu vrstu potrage za svoju ćerku
12:07
and I like that kind of quest for my son.
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i volim takvu vrstu potrage za svog sina.
12:10
I want more quests like that.
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Želim više takvih potraga.
12:12
I want fewer quests where my son is told,
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Želim manje potraga u kojima je mom sinu rečeno
12:14
"Go out and fight it alone,"
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"Izađi i bori se sam",
12:16
and more quests where he sees that it's his job to join a team,
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i više potraga u kojima on vidi da je njegov posao da se pridruži timu,
12:22
maybe a team led by women,
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možda timu koji vode žene,
12:26
to help other people become better
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da pomogne ljudima da postanu bolji
12:31
and be better people,
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i da budu bolji ljudi,
12:34
like the Wizard of Oz.
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kao što je "Čarobnjak iz Oza".
12:36
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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