What's so funny about mental illness? | Ruby Wax

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Prevodilac: Romeo Mlinar Lektor: Ivana Korom
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One in four people suffer from some sort of mental illness,
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Jedna od četiri osobe ima neko mentalno obolenje,
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so if it was one, two, three, four, it's you, sir.
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recimo, jedna, dve, tri, četiri, to ste vi gospodine.
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You. Yeah. (Laughter)
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Vi. (Smeh)
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With the weird teeth. And you next to him. (Laughter)
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Sa čudnim zubima. I vi pored njega. (Smeh)
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You know who you are.
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Znate vi ko ste.
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Actually, that whole row isn't right. (Laughter)
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Zapravo, čitav taj red ne valja. (Smeh)
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That's not good. Hi. Yeah. Real bad. Don't even look at me. (Laughter)
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Nije to dobro. Zdravo! Da, skroz loše. Nemojte me i gledati. (Smeh)
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I am one of the one in four. Thank you.
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Ja sam jedna od one jedne u četiri. Zahvaljujem.
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I think I inherit it from my mother, who,
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Verujem da sam to nasledila od majke
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used to crawl around the house on all fours.
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koja je na sve četiri puzala kroz kuću.
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She had two sponges in her hand, and then she had two
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Imala je dva sunđera u ruci, a još dva
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tied to her knees. My mother was completely absorbent. (Laughter)
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zavezana za kolena. Moja majka sve je upijala. (Smeh)
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And she would crawl around behind me going,
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Puzala bi za mnom i ponavljala:
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"Who brings footprints into a building?!"
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"Ko još gaca po kući?!"
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So that was kind of a clue that things weren't right.
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Bio je to neki znak da nešto ne valja.
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So before I start, I would like to thank
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Pre nego počnem, želim zahvaliti tvorcima
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the makers of Lamotrigine, Sertraline, and Reboxetine,
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lamortrigina, sertralina i reboksetina.
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because without those few simple chemicals, I would not be vertical today.
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Bez tih prostih hemikalija, danas ne bih stajala na nogama.
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So how did it start?
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Kako je počelo?
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My mental illness -- well, I'm not even going to talk about my mental illness.
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Moja mentalna bolest, pa, o njoj neću ni govoriti.
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What am I going to talk about? Okay.
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O čemu ću govoriti? U redu.
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I always dreamt that, when I had my final breakdown,
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Stalno sam sanjala da će se moj konačan nervni slom
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it would be because I had a deep Kafkaesque
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desiti zbog dubokog kafkijanskog
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existentialist revelation,
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egzistencionalnog uvida,
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or that maybe Cate Blanchett would play me and she would win an Oscar for it. (Laughter)
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ili da će me Kejt Blanšet glumiti i osvojiti Oskara. (Smeh)
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But that's not what happened. I had my breakdown
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Ali, to se nije desilo. Nervni slom sam doživela
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during my daughter's sports day.
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u toku sportskog dana u školi moje kćerke.
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There were all the parents sitting in a parking lot
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Gomila roditelja sedela je na parkingu
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eating food out of the back of their car -- only the English --
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i jela sa gepeka -- samo Englezi --
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eating their sausages. They loved their sausages. (Laughter)
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su jeli kobasice. Obožavali su kobasice. (Smeh)
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Lord and Lady Rigor Mortis were nibbling on the tarmac,
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Lord i ledi Mrtvačka Ukočenost nabadali su sa asfalta,
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and then the gun went off and all the girlies started running,
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začuo se pištolj i sve devojane potrčaše
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and all the mummies went, "Run! Run Chlamydia! Run!" (Laughter)
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dok su mamice vikale: "Trči, trči Klamidja! Trči!" (Smeh.)
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"Run like the wind, Veruca! Run!"
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"Poleti kao vetar, Veruka! Trči!"
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And all the girlies, girlies running, running, running,
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I sve devojane trče, trče, trče,
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everybody except for my daughter, who was just standing
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sve osim moje kćerke, koja samo stoji
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at the starting line, just waving,
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na startu, samo maše
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because she didn't know she was supposed to run.
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jer nije znala da treba da trči.
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So I took to my bed for about a month, and when I woke up
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Završila sam u postelji na oko mesec dana i nakon buđenja
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I found I was institutionalized, and when I saw the other inmates,
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saznala sam da sam u bolnici. Videla sam ostale zatočenike i
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I realized that I had found my people, my tribe. (Laughter)
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shvatila da sam našla moj narod, moje pleme. (Smeh)
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Because they became my only friends, they became my friends,
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Jer, postali su mi jedini prijatelji, postali su mi prijatelji,
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because very few people that I knew -- Well, I wasn't
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pošto mi ono malo poznanika... Znate, nisu mi
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sent a lot of cards or flowers. I mean, if I had had a broken leg
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slali mnogo razglednica ili cveća. Mislim, da sam polomila nogu
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or I was with child I would have been inundated,
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ili bila trudna, udavili bi me pažnjom.
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but all I got was a couple phone calls telling me to perk up.
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Samo sam dobila nekoliko poziva kad su mi rekli da živnem.
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Perk up.
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Da živnem.
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Because I didn't think of that. (Laughter)
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Tog se sama nisam setila. (Smeh)
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smeh) (Aplauz)
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Because, you know, the one thing, one thing that you get with this disease,
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Jer, vidite, ono što dobijete uz ovu bolest,
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this one comes with a package, is you get a real sense of shame,
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što ide u paketu, jeste pravi osećaj srama,
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because your friends go, "Oh come on, show me the lump,
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jer prijatelji vam govore: "Pokaži mi oteklinu!"
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show me the x-rays," and of course you've got nothing to show,
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"Pokaži mi rentgen!" Naravno, nemate šta pokazati
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so you're, like, really disgusted with yourself because you're thinking,
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i onda se gadite sebe jer razmišljate:
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"I'm not being carpet-bombed. I don't live in a township."
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"Nisam zasuta minama. Ne živim u predgrađu."
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So you start to hear these abusive voices, but you don't hear one abusive voice,
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Počinjete da čujete proganjajuće glasove, ali ne jedan glas,
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you hear about a thousand -- 100,000 abusive voices,
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već oko hiljadu, 100.000 proganjajućih glasova,
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like if the Devil had Tourette's, that's what it would sound like.
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Da đavo ima Turetov sindrom, tako bi to zvučalo.
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But we all know in here, you know, there is no Devil,
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Ali svi ovde znamo, kako beše, da đavo ne postoji,
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there are no voices in your head.
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nema glasova u vašoj glavi.
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You know that when you have those abusive voices,
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Znate, kad čujete te proganjajuće glasove.
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all those little neurons get together and in that little gap
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svi mali neuroni skupe se u taj mali prostor
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you get a real toxic "I want to kill myself" kind of chemical,
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i stvori se veoma otrovna "hoću-da-se-ubijem" hemikalija
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and if you have that over and over again on a loop tape,
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i ako vam se to ponavlja iznova i iznova
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you might have yourself depression.
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možda nabacite sebi depresiju.
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Oh, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.
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O, ali to nije ni vrh ledenog brega.
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If you get a little baby, and you abuse it verbally,
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Ako dobijete bebu, i verbalno je zlostavljate,
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its little brain sends out chemicals that are so destructive
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njen mali mozak šalje tako destruktivne hemikalije
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that the little part of its brain that can tell good from bad just doesn't grow,
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da se maleni deo mozga za razlikovanje dobra od zla ne razvije.
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so you might have yourself a homegrown psychotic.
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Tako ste sebi možda nabacili psihotika iz kućne radinosti.
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If a soldier sees his friend blown up, his brain goes into
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Ako vojnik vidi kako mu prijatelja raznese eksplozija, mozak mu
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such high alarm that he can't actually put the experience into words,
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je toliko uzbuđen da rečima ne može opisati iskustvo,
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so he just feels the horror over and over again.
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tako da traumu iznova proživljava.
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So here's my question. My question is, how come
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Evo šta me zanima. Kako to da se kod ljudi sa
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when people have mental damage, it's always an active imagination?
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mentalnim oštećenjem uvek radi o "aktivnoj mašti"?
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How come every other organ in your body can get sick
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Kako to da se svaki organ u telu može razboleti,
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and you get sympathy, except the brain?
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i izazvati saosećanje, svaki osim mozga?
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I'd like to talk a little bit more about the brain,
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Želim malo da govorim o mozgu,
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because I know you like that here at TED,
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znam da to volite ovde na TED-u,
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so if you just give me a minute here, okay.
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pa me saslušajte minut, može.
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Okay, let me just say, there's some good news.
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Da vam kažem da imam dobre vesti.
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There is some good news. First of all, let me say,
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Ima dobrih vesti. Pre svega,
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we've come a long, long way.
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prevalili smo dug, dug put.
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We started off as a teeny, teeny little one-celled amoeba,
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Počeli smo kao malecka jednoćelijska ameba,
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tiny, just sticking onto a rock, and now, voila, the brain.
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malecka, prilepljena za stenu i evo nam ga danas mozak.
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Here we go. (Laughter)
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Pogledajte. (Smeh)
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This little baby has a lot of horsepower.
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Ova bebica veoma je snažna.
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It comes completely conscious. It's got state-of-the-art lobes.
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Dolazi potpuno svesna. Ima najmodernije režnjeve.
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We've got the occipital lobe so we can actually see the world.
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Tu nam je čeoni režanj, da možemo videti svet.
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We got the temporal lobe so we can actually hear the world.
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Tu nam je slepoočni režanj, da možemu čuti svet.
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Here we've got a little bit of long-term memory,
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Imamo i nešto dugoročnog pamćenja.
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so, you know that night you want to forget, when you got really drunk? Bye-bye! Gone. (Laughter)
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Ona noć koju biste zaboravili, kad ste se baš napili? Nestala! (Smeh)
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So actually, it's filled with 100 billion neurons
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U njemu je 100 milijardi neurona
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just zizzing away, electrically transmitting information,
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koji zuje i putem struje prenose informacije,
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zizzing, zizzing. I'm going to give you a little side view here.
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zuje, zuje... Da vam pokažem pogled sa strane.
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I don't know if you can get that here. (Laughter)
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Ne znam vidite li odatle. (Smeh)
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So, zizzing away, and so — (Laughter) —
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Dakle, zuje, i tako... (Smeh)
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And for every one — I know, I drew this myself. Thank you.
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I na svaki... Znam, sama sam crtala. Hvala vam.
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For every one single neuron, you can actually have
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Na svaki neuron dolazi od
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from 10,000 to 100,000 different connections
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10.000 do 100.000 različitih veza
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or dendrites or whatever you want to call it, and every time
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ili dendrita ili kako već ih zvali i svaki put
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you learn something, or you have an experience,
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kad naučite nešto novo, ili doživite neko iskustvo
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that bush grows, you know, that bush of information.
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taj grm raste, znate, taj grm informacija.
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Can you imagine, every human being is carrying
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Zamislite, svaki čovek poseduje
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that equipment, even Paris Hilton? (Laughter)
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tu opremu, čak i Paris Hilton? (Smeh)
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Go figure.
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Pa vi vidite.
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But I got a little bad news for you folks. I got some bad news.
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Imam i loše vesti, narode. Neke loše vesti.
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This isn't for the one in four. This is for the four in four.
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A one ne važe za jednu od četiri osobe, već za sve četiri.
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We are not equipped for the 21st century.
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Nismo opremljeni za XXI vek.
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Evolution did not prepare us for this. We just don't have the bandwidth,
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Evolucija nas na ovo nije pripremila. Nemamo potreban protok informacija
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and for people who say, oh, they're having a nice day,
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a ljudi koji kažu: "O, uživaju u lepom danu..."
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they're perfectly fine, they're more insane than the rest of us.
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"...sasvim su u redu.", oni su luđi od nas ostalih.
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Because I'll show you where there might be a few glitches
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Jer, pokazaću vam moguće tehničke začkoljice
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in evolution. Okay, let me just explain this to you.
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u evoluciji. Dakle, da vam objasnim.
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When we were ancient man — (Laughter) —
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Kad smo bili drevni ljudi... (smeh)
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millions of years ago, and we suddenly felt threatened
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milionima godina unazad i bili suočeni sa opasnošću...
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by a predator, okay? — (Laughter) —
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zbog grabljivaca, može? (Smeh)
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we would — Thank you. I drew these myself. (Laughter)
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tad bismo... Hvala vam. Sama sam crtala. (Smeh)
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Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala mnogo. Hvala vam. Hvala. (Aplauz)
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Thank you. Anyway, we would fill up with our own adrenaline
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Hvala. Nego, napunili bismo se našim adrenalinom
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and our own cortisol, and then we'd kill or be killed,
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i našim kortizolom i onda bismo ubili ili bili ubijeni,
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we'd eat or we'd be eaten, and then suddenly we'd de-fuel,
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pojeli ili bili pojedeni i odjednom bismo se ispraznili,
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and we'd go back to normal. Okay.
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i vratili se u normalno stanje. U redu.
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So the problem is, nowadays, with modern man— (Laughter) —
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Dakle, problem je danas, kod modernog čoveka... (Smeh)
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when we feel in danger, we still fill up with our own chemical
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što se u opasnosti i dalje punimo našim hemikalijama
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but because we can't kill traffic wardens — (Laughter) —
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ali, pošto ne možemo ubiti nadzornike... (Smeh)
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or eat estate agents, the fuel just stays in our body
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ili pojesti agente za nekretnine, hemikalije ostaju u telu
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over and over, so we're in a constant state of alarm,
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iznova i iznova, tako da smo u stalnom stanju uzbuđenosti,
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a constant state. And here's another thing that happened.
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trajnom stanju. A, evo šta još biva.
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About 150,000 years ago, when language came online,
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Pre oko 150.000 godina, kad smo prikačeni na jezik,
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we started to put words to this constant emergency,
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ovo trajno stanje smo počeli opisivati, tako da nije bilo
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so it wasn't just, "Oh my God, there's a saber-toothed tiger,"
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samo: "Gospode, eno ga sabljasti tigar!", što je i moglo biti,
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which could be, it was suddenly, "Oh my God, I didn't send the email. Oh my God, my thighs are too fat.
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već se odjednom pojavilo i: "Gospode, nisam poslala mejl! Butine su mi prevelike!" ,
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Oh my God, everybody can see I'm stupid. I didn't get invited to the Christmas party!"
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"Gospode, svi vide da sam glupa. Nisu me pozvali na božićnu žurku!"
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So you've got this nagging loop tape that goes
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U glavi vam je taj dosadni snimak
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over and over again that drives you insane, so,
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koji se ponavlja i ponavlja i izluđuje vas.
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you see what the problem is? What once made you safe
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Vidite u čemu je problem? Ono što vas je nekad štitilo,
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now drives you insane.
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sada vas izluđuje.
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I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but somebody has to be.
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Žao mi je što sam glasnik loših vesti, ali i to neko mora.
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Your pets are happier than you are. (Laughter)
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Vaši kućni ljubimci srećniji su od vas. (Smeh)
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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So kitty cat, meow, happy happy happy, human beings, screwed. (Laughter)
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Mac, mac, mac, mjau, srećna, srećna, ljuska bića -- propala. (Smeh)
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Completely and utterly -- so, screwed.
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Sasvim i do kraja, dabome, propala.
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But my point is, if we don't talk about this stuff,
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Hoću da kažem, ako ne pričamo o ovim stvarima
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and we don't learn how to deal with our lives, it's not going
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i ne naučimo kako se izboriti sa našim životima,
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to be one in four. It's going to be four in four
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neće to biti jedna od četiri osobe, već četiri od četiri,
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who are really, really going to get ill in the upstairs department.
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koje će zaista, zaista, oboleti na gornjem spratu.
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And while we're at it, can we please stop the stigma?
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I kad već pričamo o tome, molim vas, da prestanemo sa žigosanjem?
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Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala vam. (Aplauz)
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(Applause) Thank you.
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(Aplauz) Hvala vam.
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