What's so funny about mental illness? | Ruby Wax

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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譯者: Regina Chu 審譯者: James Hung
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One in four people suffer from some sort of mental illness,
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每四人之中,就有一人患有某種程度的精神疾病,
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so if it was one, two, three, four, it's you, sir.
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那麼如果我數一、二、三、四,就是你,先生。
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You. Yeah. (Laughter)
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就是你,沒錯(笑聲)。
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With the weird teeth. And you next to him. (Laughter)
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有奇怪牙齒的那個。還有他旁邊那個。(笑聲)
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You know who you are.
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你知道我在指誰。
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Actually, that whole row isn't right. (Laughter)
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其實這整排的人都不太對勁。(笑聲)
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That's not good. Hi. Yeah. Real bad. Don't even look at me. (Laughter)
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這樣很不好。嗨!對。你很糟。連看我都別想。(笑聲)
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I am one of the one in four. Thank you.
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我就是那四人中的一個。謝謝。
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I think I inherit it from my mother, who,
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我想我是從我媽媽那裡遺傳到疾病,
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used to crawl around the house on all fours.
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她總是四肢著地在房裡爬來爬去。
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She had two sponges in her hand, and then she had two
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她會綁二片海綿在手上,另外兩片綁在膝上。我媽媽是強力吸附劑(笑聲)
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tied to her knees. My mother was completely absorbent. (Laughter)
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她會綁二片海綿在手上,另外兩片綁在膝上。我媽媽是強力吸附劑(最佳學習者的雙關用法)(笑聲)
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And she would crawl around behind me going,
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而且她還會爬到我後面說,
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"Who brings footprints into a building?!"
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「這些腳印是誰帶進來的?」
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So that was kind of a clue that things weren't right.
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所以那就是事情不太對的蛛絲馬跡。
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So before I start, I would like to thank
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所以在我開始講題之前,我要謝謝製造樂命達、樂復得、憂得樂這些精神用藥的製藥商,
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the makers of Lamotrigine, Sertraline, and Reboxetine,
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所以在我開始講題之前,我要謝謝製造樂命達、樂復得、憂得樂這些精神用藥的製藥商,
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because without those few simple chemicals, I would not be vertical today.
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因為如果沒有這些簡單的化學物質,我今天不可能站在這裡。
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So how did it start?
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所以是怎麼開始的?
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My mental illness -- well, I'm not even going to talk about my mental illness.
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我的精神病 -- 嗯,我才不想談我的精神病。
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What am I going to talk about? Okay.
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那我要談什麼呢?好吧
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I always dreamt that, when I had my final breakdown,
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我總是想像著,我最後崩潰的原因,
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it would be because I had a deep Kafkaesque
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是因為我受到深奧的卡夫卡式存在主義啓示,
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existentialist revelation,
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是因為我受到深奧的卡夫卡式存在主義啓示,
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or that maybe Cate Blanchett would play me and she would win an Oscar for it. (Laughter)
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或是因為凱特·布蘭琪要扮演我,而她居然因此得到一座奧斯卡。(笑聲)
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But that's not what happened. I had my breakdown
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但實情並非如此。我崩潰的時候是在我女兒的運動會上。
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during my daughter's sports day.
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但實情並非如此。我崩潰的時候是在我女兒的運動會上。
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There were all the parents sitting in a parking lot
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所有的家長都坐在停車場吃從後車廂拿出來的食物 -- 只有英國人 -- 吃臘腸。他們好愛吃臘腸(笑聲)
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eating food out of the back of their car -- only the English --
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所有的家長都坐在停車場吃從後車廂拿出來的食物 -- 只有英國人 -- 吃臘腸。他們好愛吃臘腸(笑聲)
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eating their sausages. They loved their sausages. (Laughter)
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所有的家長都坐在停車場吃從後車廂拿出來的食物 -- 只有英國人 -- 吃臘腸。他們好愛吃臘腸(笑聲)
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Lord and Lady Rigor Mortis were nibbling on the tarmac,
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殭屍爵爺及其夫人正在柏油路上啃食,
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and then the gun went off and all the girlies started running,
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突然間槍聲大作,所有的女孩都開始向前跑,
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and all the mummies went, "Run! Run Chlamydia! Run!" (Laughter)
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所有的媽媽都叫著,「跑啊!快跑!克拉米底雅(Chlamydia)!快跑!」
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"Run like the wind, Veruca! Run!"
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「像風一樣跑啊!維路佳(Chlamydia)!快跑」〈克拉米底雅(Chlamydia)與維路佳(Chlamydia)為雙關語,皆為以姓名而取的病名〉
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And all the girlies, girlies running, running, running,
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這些小女孩跑啊!跑啊!跑,
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everybody except for my daughter, who was just standing
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每個人都在跑,除了我女兒,她只是傻傻地站在
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at the starting line, just waving,
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起跑線上揮手,
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because she didn't know she was supposed to run.
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因為她根本不知道她應該要跑。
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So I took to my bed for about a month, and when I woke up
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我因此躺在床上大概一個月,當我醒來,
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I found I was institutionalized, and when I saw the other inmates,
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我發現我已經被送入精神病房,而且當我看到其他病友,
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I realized that I had found my people, my tribe. (Laughter)
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我瞭解到我已經找到了跟我一樣的人,我的族類。(笑聲)
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Because they became my only friends, they became my friends,
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因為他們成為我唯一的朋友,他們變成我的朋友
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because very few people that I knew -- Well, I wasn't
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因為很少我認識的人 -- 嗯,我並沒有收到很多慰問卡片或花束。我是說,如果我是斷了一條腿
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sent a lot of cards or flowers. I mean, if I had had a broken leg
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因為很少我認識的人 -- 嗯,我並沒有收到很多慰問卡片或花束。我是說,如果我是斷了一條腿
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or I was with child I would have been inundated,
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或者我是懷了孩子,我應該會被花給淹沒吧,
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but all I got was a couple phone calls telling me to perk up.
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但是我只收到了幾通慰問電話,叫我趕快振作吧。
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Perk up.
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振作。
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Because I didn't think of that. (Laughter)
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你以為我不想振作嗎?(笑聲)
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(笑聲)(掌聲)
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Because, you know, the one thing, one thing that you get with this disease,
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因為,你知道,當你得了這個病,有一件事,
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this one comes with a package, is you get a real sense of shame,
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這件事就隨之而來,就是你真的覺得好丟臉,
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because your friends go, "Oh come on, show me the lump,
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因為你的朋友說,「喔,來吧,讓我看看你的腫瘤在哪,
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show me the x-rays," and of course you've got nothing to show,
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讓我看X光圖。」當然你沒有東西可以給人家看,
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so you're, like, really disgusted with yourself because you're thinking,
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所以你會,怎麼說,很討厭自己,因為你所思所想都是,
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"I'm not being carpet-bombed. I don't live in a township."
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「我沒有被地毯式轟炸到,因為我不住在城裡。」(自責)
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So you start to hear these abusive voices, but you don't hear one abusive voice,
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所以你開始聽到這些辱罵的聲音,不只一種這樣的聲音
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you hear about a thousand -- 100,000 abusive voices,
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你聽到千千萬萬辱罵的聲音,
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like if the Devil had Tourette's, that's what it would sound like.
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就好像魔王得了杜瑞氏症,聽起來就像那樣。
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But we all know in here, you know, there is no Devil,
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但是我們都很清楚,你知道,這世界沒有魔王,
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there are no voices in your head.
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在你的腦袋裡並沒有那種聲音。
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You know that when you have those abusive voices,
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你知道嗎,當你腦裡產生了這種辱罵的聲音,
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all those little neurons get together and in that little gap
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這些小小的神經元全集中在一起,然後在這個小小的縫隙裡
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you get a real toxic "I want to kill myself" kind of chemical,
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你真的中了一種「我想要殺了我自己」的化學毒藥、
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and if you have that over and over again on a loop tape,
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而如果你不斷地重覆這樣的聲音,
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you might have yourself depression.
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你會讓自己陷入憂鬱。
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Oh, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.
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喔,這還不只是冰山一角。
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If you get a little baby, and you abuse it verbally,
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如果你生了個小寶寶,然後你對他施以口語虐待,
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its little brain sends out chemicals that are so destructive
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他的小小的腦袋會送出化學物質,這種物質的毀滅程度會讓腦中分辨是非的部分停止生長,
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that the little part of its brain that can tell good from bad just doesn't grow,
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他的小小的腦袋會送出化學物質,這種物質的毀滅程度會讓腦中分辨是非的部分停止生長,
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so you might have yourself a homegrown psychotic.
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所以你很有可能在家裡培養神經病。
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If a soldier sees his friend blown up, his brain goes into
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如果一個士兵目睹同袍被炸,他的腦部會進入高警戒狀態,這會使他無法將這個經驗轉成語言說出來
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such high alarm that he can't actually put the experience into words,
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如果一個士兵目睹同袍被炸,他的腦部會進入高警戒狀態,這會使他無法將這個經驗轉成語言說出來
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so he just feels the horror over and over again.
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所以他就會一次又一次地經歷這種恐懼。
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So here's my question. My question is, how come
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所以我要問一個問題,我的問題是為什麼人們對精神受創的人總是充滿了臆測?
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when people have mental damage, it's always an active imagination?
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所以我要問一個問題,我的問題是為什麼人們對精神受創的人總是充滿了臆測?
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How come every other organ in your body can get sick
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為什麼你身體的每一個器官都可以生病
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and you get sympathy, except the brain?
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而且你還會因此得到慰問,就是腦子不可以生病?
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I'd like to talk a little bit more about the brain,
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我想再多談一下腦部,
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because I know you like that here at TED,
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因為我知道你們在TED論壇喜歡談這些,
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so if you just give me a minute here, okay.
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所以請給我一分鐘,好嗎?
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Okay, let me just say, there's some good news.
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好,這麼說好了,還是有好消息的。
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There is some good news. First of all, let me say,
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真的有好消息。第一,我要說,
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we've come a long, long way.
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我們已經走了一段很長很長的路。
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We started off as a teeny, teeny little one-celled amoeba,
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我們從這個小小小小的阿米巴原蟲,
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tiny, just sticking onto a rock, and now, voila, the brain.
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很小,只能貼在石頭上,到現在,瞧,一個腦袋,
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Here we go. (Laughter)
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就是這個。(笑聲)
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This little baby has a lot of horsepower.
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這個小寶貝馬力很大。
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It comes completely conscious. It's got state-of-the-art lobes.
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具有完全的意識,也有最先進的腦葉。
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We've got the occipital lobe so we can actually see the world.
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我們有這個枕葉,讓我們可以實際看到這個世界。
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We got the temporal lobe so we can actually hear the world.
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我們有顳葉,所以我們可以實際聽到這個世界。
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Here we've got a little bit of long-term memory,
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這裡我們可以保持長期記憶,
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so, you know that night you want to forget, when you got really drunk? Bye-bye! Gone. (Laughter)
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所以你還記得那個你很想忘記的夜晚,你醉死了?掰掰!消失了。(笑聲)
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So actually, it's filled with 100 billion neurons
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所以其實這裡充滿了一千億個神經元滋滋滋的以電子傳送資訊,
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just zizzing away, electrically transmitting information,
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所以其實這裡充滿了一千億個神經元滋滋滋的以電子傳送資訊,
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zizzing, zizzing. I'm going to give you a little side view here.
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滋滋,滋滋。我要讓大家看一下側視圖。
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I don't know if you can get that here. (Laughter)
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我不知道你能不了了解這張圖?(指黑色線不規則線條的部分)(笑聲)
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So, zizzing away, and so — (Laughter) —
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所以滋滋滋,所以 —(笑聲)—
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And for every one — I know, I drew this myself. Thank you.
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對每一個 —沒錯,我自己畫的。謝謝。
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For every one single neuron, you can actually have
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對每一個神經元,你其實可以產生
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from 10,000 to 100,000 different connections
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一萬到十萬種不同的連結
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or dendrites or whatever you want to call it, and every time
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或叫樹突,隨便你怎麼叫,每次你學了新東西或者有新的經驗,
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you learn something, or you have an experience,
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或叫樹突,隨便你怎麼叫,每次你學了新東西或者有新的經驗,
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that bush grows, you know, that bush of information.
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這棵「樹」就長大一點,你知道,就是儲存資料的「樹」
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Can you imagine, every human being is carrying
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你可以想像嗎?每一個人都配有這樣的裝備。芭黎絲.希爾頓(Paris Hilton)也不例外(笑聲)
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that equipment, even Paris Hilton? (Laughter)
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你可以想像嗎?每一個人都配有這樣的裝備。芭黎絲.希爾頓(Paris Hilton)也不例外(笑聲)
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Go figure.
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不信?你去找找看。
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But I got a little bad news for you folks. I got some bad news.
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但我要告訴你們一個壞消息,我的確有一些壞消息。
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This isn't for the one in four. This is for the four in four.
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這不是對那四人中的一個說的,這是給每一個人的。
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We are not equipped for the 21st century.
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我們的裝備跟不上21世紀。
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Evolution did not prepare us for this. We just don't have the bandwidth,
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演化並沒有讓我們準備好面對這個。我們就是沒有足夠的頻寬。
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and for people who say, oh, they're having a nice day,
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對這些說著「喔!他們有個美好的一天,他們很好」的人而言,他們比我們還要精神錯亂,
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they're perfectly fine, they're more insane than the rest of us.
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對這些說著「喔!他們有個美好的一天,他們很好」的人而言,他們比我們還要精神錯亂,
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Because I'll show you where there might be a few glitches
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因為我要告訴你們演化在哪裡出了差錯。好,容我解釋一下。
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in evolution. Okay, let me just explain this to you.
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因為我要告訴你們演化在哪裡出了差錯。好,容我解釋一下。
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When we were ancient man — (Laughter) —
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當我們還是古代人的時候(笑聲)
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millions of years ago, and we suddenly felt threatened
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幾百萬年前,當我們突然被掠食者威脅時,可以嗎?—(笑聲)—
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by a predator, okay? — (Laughter) —
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幾百萬年前,當我們突然被掠食者威脅時,可以嗎?—(笑聲)—
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we would — Thank you. I drew these myself. (Laughter)
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我們會 — 謝謝,這是我自己畫的(笑聲)
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Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. (Applause)
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非常感謝,謝謝。謝謝。(掌聲)
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Thank you. Anyway, we would fill up with our own adrenaline
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謝謝。總之,我們的身體會充滿腎上腺素
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and our own cortisol, and then we'd kill or be killed,
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及可體松,然後我們或殺了掠食者,或被牠殺或吃掉他,或他吃掉我們。然後突然間我們的荷爾蒙平復我們回到正常。對吧。
06:55
we'd eat or we'd be eaten, and then suddenly we'd de-fuel,
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及可體松,然後我們或殺了掠食者,或被牠殺或吃掉他,或他吃掉我們。然後突然間我們的荷爾蒙平復我們回到正常。對吧。
06:58
and we'd go back to normal. Okay.
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及可體松,然後我們或殺了掠食者,或被牠殺或吃掉他,或他吃掉我們。然後突然間我們的荷爾蒙平復我們回到正常。對吧。
07:00
So the problem is, nowadays, with modern man— (Laughter) —
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所以問題是,現在,我們這些現代人(笑聲)
07:06
when we feel in danger, we still fill up with our own chemical
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當我們覺得有危險時,體內仍然充滿著自己產生的化學物質
07:09
but because we can't kill traffic wardens — (Laughter) —
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但是因為我們不能殺了交通警察(笑聲)
07:14
or eat estate agents, the fuel just stays in our body
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或是吃了那個房地產仲介,這個燃料仍然充滿體內
07:19
over and over, so we're in a constant state of alarm,
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不斷充滿,所以我們長期處在高警戒狀態,
07:21
a constant state. And here's another thing that happened.
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總是如此高警戒。而且還有另外一件事。
07:23
About 150,000 years ago, when language came online,
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大約十五萬年前,當語言出現的時候,
07:26
we started to put words to this constant emergency,
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我們開始用語言來形容這種緊急事件,
07:29
so it wasn't just, "Oh my God, there's a saber-toothed tiger,"
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所以這不僅僅是「噢!我的天,有一隻劍齒虎來了。」
07:31
which could be, it was suddenly, "Oh my God, I didn't send the email. Oh my God, my thighs are too fat.
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而是突然變成「噢!我的天!我忘了送電郵。噢!我的天,我的大腿好肥!
07:35
Oh my God, everybody can see I'm stupid. I didn't get invited to the Christmas party!"
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噢!我的天!大家都看到了我的蠢樣。我沒被邀請去那個聖誕派對!」
07:39
So you've got this nagging loop tape that goes
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所以這種惱人的聲音一次又一次
07:42
over and over again that drives you insane, so,
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的播放,把你搞瘋掉了,所以
07:44
you see what the problem is? What once made you safe
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你知道問題在哪了嗎?本來要讓你安全的機制
07:47
now drives you insane.
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現在把你搞瘋了。
07:49
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but somebody has to be.
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很遺憾,我是宣佈這壞消息的人,總要有人說出來
07:52
Your pets are happier than you are. (Laughter)
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你的寵物比你還快樂(笑聲)
07:58
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
08:01
So kitty cat, meow, happy happy happy, human beings, screwed. (Laughter)
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所以小貓咪,喵,幸福快樂,人類糟透了(笑聲)
08:06
Completely and utterly -- so, screwed.
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完完全全糟到極點 -- 糟到最高點
08:08
But my point is, if we don't talk about this stuff,
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但我的重點是,如果我們不把這件事說出來,
08:11
and we don't learn how to deal with our lives, it's not going
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而且我們不去學習如何處理生活壓力,就不是
08:13
to be one in four. It's going to be four in four
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每四人中有一人得到精神病,而會是四人中的四人
08:16
who are really, really going to get ill in the upstairs department.
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真的都要得病,住在醫院的上層
08:19
And while we're at it, can we please stop the stigma?
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而對我們這些已經在那裡的人,可不可以停止羞辱我們?
08:22
Thank you. (Applause)
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謝謝(掌聲)
08:28
(Applause) Thank you.
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(掌聲)謝謝
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