What's so funny about mental illness? | Ruby Wax

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Prevoditelj: Senzos Osijek Recezent: Suzana Baric
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One in four people suffer from some sort of mental illness,
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Jedno od četvero ljudi pati od neke mentalne bolesti.
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so if it was one, two, three, four, it's you, sir.
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Jedan, dva, tri, četiri, to ste vi, gospodine.
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You. Yeah. (Laughter)
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Vi. Da. (Smijeh)
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With the weird teeth. And you next to him. (Laughter)
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S čudnim zubima. I vi kraj njega. (Smijeh)
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You know who you are.
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Znate koji ste.
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Actually, that whole row isn't right. (Laughter)
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Zapravo, taj cijeli red nije u redu. (Smijeh)
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That's not good. Hi. Yeah. Real bad. Don't even look at me. (Laughter)
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To nije dobro. Bok. Da. Vrlo loše. Nemojte me ni gledati. (Smijeh)
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I am one of the one in four. Thank you.
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Ja sam jedna od onih "jedan od četvero". Hvala.
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I think I inherit it from my mother, who,
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Mislim da sam to naslijedila od majke
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used to crawl around the house on all fours.
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koja je znala puzati po kući na sve četiri.
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She had two sponges in her hand, and then she had two
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Imala je dvije spužve u ruci
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tied to her knees. My mother was completely absorbent. (Laughter)
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i dvije vezane za koljena. Moja majka upijala je sve oko sebe. (Smijeh)
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And she would crawl around behind me going,
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Puzala bi oko mene govoreći:
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"Who brings footprints into a building?!"
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"Tko unosi otiske stopala u zgradu?"
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So that was kind of a clue that things weren't right.
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To je dalo naslutiti da stvari nisu u redu.
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So before I start, I would like to thank
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Prije nego počnem, htjela bih zahvaliti
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the makers of Lamotrigine, Sertraline, and Reboxetine,
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proizvođačima Lamotrigina, Sertralina i Reboxetina
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because without those few simple chemicals, I would not be vertical today.
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jer bez tih jednostavnih kemikalija ne bih ovdje danas stajala.
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So how did it start?
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Kako je započelo?
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My mental illness -- well, I'm not even going to talk about my mental illness.
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Moja mentalna bolest -- neću ni govoriti o svojoj mentalnoj bolesti.
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What am I going to talk about? Okay.
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O čemu ću govoriti? U redu.
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I always dreamt that, when I had my final breakdown,
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Uvijek sam sanjala da, kad budem imala konačni slom,
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it would be because I had a deep Kafkaesque
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da će to biti jer sam imala kafkijansko
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existentialist revelation,
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egzistencijalističko otkrivenje
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or that maybe Cate Blanchett would play me and she would win an Oscar for it. (Laughter)
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i da će me možda glumiti Cate Blanchett i dobiti Oscara za to. (Smijeh)
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But that's not what happened. I had my breakdown
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Ali nije bilo tako. Imala sam slom živaca
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during my daughter's sports day.
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tijekom sportskog natjecanja svoje kćeri.
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There were all the parents sitting in a parking lot
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Svi su roditelji sjedili na parkiralištu
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eating food out of the back of their car -- only the English --
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i jeli hranu iz prtljažnika svojih auta -- samo Englezi --
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eating their sausages. They loved their sausages. (Laughter)
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jeli su kobasice. Oni vole svoje kobasice. (Smijeh)
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Lord and Lady Rigor Mortis were nibbling on the tarmac,
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Lord i lady Rigor Mortis grickali su asfalt,
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and then the gun went off and all the girlies started running,
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a tad je pištolj opalio i sve su djevojčice počele trčati,
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and all the mummies went, "Run! Run Chlamydia! Run!" (Laughter)
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a sve su majke vikale: "Trči! Trči, Klamidijo! Trči!" (Smijeh)
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"Run like the wind, Veruca! Run!"
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"Trči kao vjetar, Bradavice! Trči!"
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And all the girlies, girlies running, running, running,
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I sve su djevojčice trčale, trčale, trčale,
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everybody except for my daughter, who was just standing
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sve osim moje kćeri, koja je samo stajala
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at the starting line, just waving,
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na startnoj liniji, mašući,
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because she didn't know she was supposed to run.
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jer nije znala da treba trčati.
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So I took to my bed for about a month, and when I woke up
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Pa sam zalegla u krevet na mjesec dana, a kad sam se probudila
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I found I was institutionalized, and when I saw the other inmates,
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otkrila sam da sam smještena u bolnicu, a kad sam vidjela druge pacijente,
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I realized that I had found my people, my tribe. (Laughter)
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shvatila sam da sam pronašla svoje ljude, svoje pleme. (Smijeh)
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Because they became my only friends, they became my friends,
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Oni su postali moji jedini prijatelji, postali su moji prijatelji,
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because very few people that I knew -- Well, I wasn't
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jer vrlo je malen broj ljudi koje sam poznavala --
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sent a lot of cards or flowers. I mean, if I had had a broken leg
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nisam dobila mnogo čestitki ni cvijeća. Mislim, da sam slomila nogu
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or I was with child I would have been inundated,
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ili da sam bila trudna bila bih zatrpana njima,
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but all I got was a couple phone calls telling me to perk up.
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ali sve što sam dobila bilo je par poziva s porukom da se malo živnem.
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Perk up.
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Živnem.
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Because I didn't think of that. (Laughter)
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Jer ja se toga nisam sjetila. (Smijeh)
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smijeh) (Pljesak)
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Because, you know, the one thing, one thing that you get with this disease,
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Znate, jedna od stvari koje dođu s ovom bolešću,
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this one comes with a package, is you get a real sense of shame,
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to dolazi u paketu, jest osjećaj posramljenosti.
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because your friends go, "Oh come on, show me the lump,
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Vaši prijatelji govore: "Ma daj, pokaži mi kvržicu,
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show me the x-rays," and of course you've got nothing to show,
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pokaži mi rendgenske snimke", a vi, naravno, nemate što pokazati
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so you're, like, really disgusted with yourself because you're thinking,
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pa se gadite sami sebi jer mislite:
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"I'm not being carpet-bombed. I don't live in a township."
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"Ne bombardiraju me. Ne živim u siromaštvu."
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So you start to hear these abusive voices, but you don't hear one abusive voice,
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Počinjete čuti te uvredljive glasove, ali ne čujete jedan uvredljiv glas,
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you hear about a thousand -- 100,000 abusive voices,
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već njih oko tisuću -- 100.000 uvredljivih glasova,
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like if the Devil had Tourette's, that's what it would sound like.
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kao kad bi vrag imao Touretteov sindrom, tako bi to zvučalo.
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But we all know in here, you know, there is no Devil,
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Ali svi znamo da nema vraga,
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there are no voices in your head.
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nema glasova u vašoj glavi.
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You know that when you have those abusive voices,
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Kad imate te uvredljive glasove,
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all those little neurons get together and in that little gap
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skupe se svi oni mali neuroni i u toj maloj praznini
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you get a real toxic "I want to kill myself" kind of chemical,
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dobijete zaista otrovnu kemikaliju od koje se želite ubiti,
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and if you have that over and over again on a loop tape,
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a ako to doživljavate neprekidno,
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you might have yourself depression.
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mogli biste dobiti depresiju.
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Oh, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.
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A to nije ni vrh ledene sante.
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If you get a little baby, and you abuse it verbally,
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Ako dobijete dijete i verbalno ga zlostavljate,
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its little brain sends out chemicals that are so destructive
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njegov mali mozak šalje kemikalije koje su tako destruktivne
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that the little part of its brain that can tell good from bad just doesn't grow,
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da mali dijelovi njegova mozga koji razlikuju dobro od lošeg jednostavno ne rastu
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so you might have yourself a homegrown psychotic.
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pa si doma možete uzgojiti psihopata.
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If a soldier sees his friend blown up, his brain goes into
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Ako vojnik vidi kako njegovog prijatelja raznese mina, njegov se mozak
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such high alarm that he can't actually put the experience into words,
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tako uznemiri da ne može iskustvo pretočiti u riječi
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so he just feels the horror over and over again.
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pa samo opet i opet iznova osjeća užas.
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So here's my question. My question is, how come
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Ovdje dolazi moje pitanje. Moje je pitanje kako to
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when people have mental damage, it's always an active imagination?
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da se ljude s mentalnim oštećenjima uvijek tretira kao da imaju bujnu maštu?
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How come every other organ in your body can get sick
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Kako to da svaki drugi organ u vašm tijelu može oboljeti
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and you get sympathy, except the brain?
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i dobit ćete sućut, osim ako se radi o mozgu?
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I'd like to talk a little bit more about the brain,
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Voljela bih još malo govoriti o mozgu
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because I know you like that here at TED,
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jer znam da to volite ovdje na TED-u
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so if you just give me a minute here, okay.
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pa mi dajte samo tren, može?
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Okay, let me just say, there's some good news.
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Samo bih vam rekla da ima dobrih vijesti.
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There is some good news. First of all, let me say,
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Ima dobrih vijesti. Kao prvo,
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we've come a long, long way.
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daleko smo dogurali, daleko.
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We started off as a teeny, teeny little one-celled amoeba,
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Počeli smo kao sićušna, mala jednostanična ameba,
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tiny, just sticking onto a rock, and now, voila, the brain.
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malena, zalijepljena na kamen, a sad, voilà, mozak!
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Here we go. (Laughter)
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Eto ga. (Smijeh)
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This little baby has a lot of horsepower.
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Ovaj mali ima puno konjskih snaga.
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It comes completely conscious. It's got state-of-the-art lobes.
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Dolazi posve svjestan. Ima najsuvremenije režnjeve.
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We've got the occipital lobe so we can actually see the world.
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Imamo zatiljni režanj da bismo mogli vidjeti svijet.
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We got the temporal lobe so we can actually hear the world.
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Imamo sljepoočni režanj da možemo čuti svijet.
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Here we've got a little bit of long-term memory,
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Ovdje imamo nešto dugotrajnog pamćenja
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so, you know that night you want to forget, when you got really drunk? Bye-bye! Gone. (Laughter)
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pa, znate onu noć koju želite zaboraviti, kad ste se jako napili? Doviđenja! Nestalo! (Smijeh)
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So actually, it's filled with 100 billion neurons
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Popunjen je sa 100 milijardi neurona
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just zizzing away, electrically transmitting information,
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koji samo zuje električno prenoseći informacije,
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zizzing, zizzing. I'm going to give you a little side view here.
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zuje i zuje. Dat ću vam bočni pogled.
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I don't know if you can get that here. (Laughter)
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Ne znam vidite li to odatle. (Smijeh)
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So, zizzing away, and so — (Laughter) —
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Pa, zujeći, i tako -- (Smijeh) --
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And for every one — I know, I drew this myself. Thank you.
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A za svaki -- Znam, sama sam to nacrtala. Hvala.
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For every one single neuron, you can actually have
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Za svaki neuron možemo imati
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from 10,000 to 100,000 different connections
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od 10 do 100 tisuća različitih veza
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or dendrites or whatever you want to call it, and every time
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ili dendrita ili kako ih već zovete, a svaki put
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you learn something, or you have an experience,
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kad nešto naučite ili iskusite,
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that bush grows, you know, that bush of information.
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taj grm raste, grm informacija.
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Can you imagine, every human being is carrying
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Možete li zamisliti da svako ljudsko biće nosi tu opremu,
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that equipment, even Paris Hilton? (Laughter)
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čak i Paris Hilton? (Smijeh)
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Go figure.
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Tko bi rekao.
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But I got a little bad news for you folks. I got some bad news.
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Ali imam i malo loših vijesti ljudi. Imam loše vijesti.
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This isn't for the one in four. This is for the four in four.
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To nije za jednog od četiri. To je za četiri od četiri.
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We are not equipped for the 21st century.
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Nismo opremljeni za 21. stoljeće.
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Evolution did not prepare us for this. We just don't have the bandwidth,
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Evolucija nas nije pripremila za ovo. Mi nemamo propusnost,
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and for people who say, oh, they're having a nice day,
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a ljudi koji kažu da lijepo provode dan,
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they're perfectly fine, they're more insane than the rest of us.
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da su savršeno u redu -- oni su luđi od nas ostalih.
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Because I'll show you where there might be a few glitches
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Pokazat ću vam gdje bi mogli biti neki propusti
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in evolution. Okay, let me just explain this to you.
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u evoluciji. U redu, evo da vam objasnim.
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When we were ancient man — (Laughter) —
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Kad smo bili špiljski ljudi -- (Smijeh) --
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millions of years ago, and we suddenly felt threatened
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prije nekoliko milijuna godina i kad smo osjetili
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by a predator, okay? — (Laughter) —
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da smo u opasnosti od predatora, u redu? -- (Smijeh) --
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we would — Thank you. I drew these myself. (Laughter)
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mi bismo -- Hvala vam, sama sam to crtala. (Smijeh)
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Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala vam puno. Hvala. Hvala. (Pljesak)
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Thank you. Anyway, we would fill up with our own adrenaline
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Hvala. Dakle, napunili bismo se adrenalinom
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and our own cortisol, and then we'd kill or be killed,
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i kortizolom i onda bismo ubili ili bili ubijeni,
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we'd eat or we'd be eaten, and then suddenly we'd de-fuel,
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pojeli ili bili pojedeni te bi se tad iznenada iscrpili
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and we'd go back to normal. Okay.
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i vratili u normalu.
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So the problem is, nowadays, with modern man— (Laughter) —
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A problem, danas, s modernim čovjekom -- (Smijeh) --
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when we feel in danger, we still fill up with our own chemical
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kad osjetimo da smo u opasnosti, još uvijek se punimo vlastitim kemikalijama,
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but because we can't kill traffic wardens — (Laughter) —
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ali zato što ne možemo ubiti prometnike -- (Smijeh) --
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or eat estate agents, the fuel just stays in our body
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ili pojesti agente nekretninama, gorivo ostaje u našem tijelu,
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over and over, so we're in a constant state of alarm,
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i tako stalno, pa smo neprestano u stanju uznemirenosti,
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a constant state. And here's another thing that happened.
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to je stalno stanje. I još se jedna stvar dogodila.
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About 150,000 years ago, when language came online,
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Prije 150.000 godina, kad se pojavio jezik,
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we started to put words to this constant emergency,
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počeli smo dodavati riječi toj stalnoj alarmiranosti,
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so it wasn't just, "Oh my God, there's a saber-toothed tiger,"
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pa to nije bilo samo: "O Bože, eno sabljastog tigra",
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which could be, it was suddenly, "Oh my God, I didn't send the email. Oh my God, my thighs are too fat.
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nego je to odjednom postalo: "O Bože, nisam poslao mail. O Bože, bedra su mi predebela."
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Oh my God, everybody can see I'm stupid. I didn't get invited to the Christmas party!"
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O Bože, svi vide da sam glup. Nisu me pozvali na božićnu zabavu!"
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So you've got this nagging loop tape that goes
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Postoji ta dosadna petlja koja se neprestano vrti
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over and over again that drives you insane, so,
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i izluđuje vas.
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you see what the problem is? What once made you safe
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Vidite u čemu je problem? Što nas je nekad činilo sigurnima,
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now drives you insane.
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sada nas izluđuje.
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I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but somebody has to be.
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Žao mi je što nosim loše vijesti, ali netko i to mora.
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Your pets are happier than you are. (Laughter)
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Vaši ljubimci sretniji su od vas. (Smijeh)
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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So kitty cat, meow, happy happy happy, human beings, screwed. (Laughter)
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Mica maca, mijau -- sretna sretna sretna; ljudska bića -- zeznuta. (Smijeh)
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Completely and utterly -- so, screwed.
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Potpuno i sasvim -- zeznuta.
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But my point is, if we don't talk about this stuff,
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Želim reći da, ako ne govorimo o ovim stvarima
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and we don't learn how to deal with our lives, it's not going
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i ne naučimo kako se nositi s našim životima,
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to be one in four. It's going to be four in four
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neće to biti jedan od četvero. Bit će četiri od četiri
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who are really, really going to get ill in the upstairs department.
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koji će zaista oboljeti ovdje gore.
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And while we're at it, can we please stop the stigma?
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I kad smo kod toga, možemo li odbaciti stigme?
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Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala. (Pljesak)
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(Applause) Thank you.
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