Robert Gupta: Music is medicine, music is sanity

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Prevodilac: Bojan Mijić Lektor: Sandra Gojic
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One day, Los Angeles Times columnist
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Jednog dana kolumnista Los Anđeles Tajmsa
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Steve Lopez was walking along
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Stiv Lopez je šetajući se
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the streets of downtown Los Angeles
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ulicama u centru Los Anđelesa
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when he heard beautiful music.
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začuo predivnu muziku.
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And the source was a man,
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Zvuke muzike proizvodio je
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an African-American man,
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jedan Afroamerikanac,
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charming, rugged, homeless,
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šarmantan, krševit beskućnik,
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playing a violin that only had two strings.
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i to na violini sa samo dve žice.
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And I'm telling a story that many of you know,
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Pričam vam priču koju mnogi od vas znaju,
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because Steve's columns became the basis
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jer su Stivove kolumne bile osnova
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for a book, which was turned into a movie,
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za knjigu, po kojoj je snimljen film
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with Robert Downey Jr. acting as Steve Lopez,
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u kom Robert Dauni Džunior ima ulogu Stiva Lopeza,
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and Jamie Foxx as Nathaniel Anthony Ayers,
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a Džejmi Foks glumi Natanijela Antoni Ajersa,
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the Juilliard-trained double bassist
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kontrabasista njujorškog konzervatorijuma Džulijard,
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whose promising career was cut short
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čiju je obećavajuću karijeru tragično zaustavio
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by a tragic affliction with paranoid schizophrenia.
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nastup paranoidne šizofrenije.
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Nathaniel dropped out of Juilliard, he suffered a complete breakdown,
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Natanijel se ispisao sa Džulijarda, preživeo potpuni nervni slom,
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and 30 years later he was living homeless
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a 30 godina kasnije živeo je kao beskućnik
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on the streets of Skid Row in downtown Los Angeles.
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na ulicama zapuštenog naselja Skid Rou u centru Los Anđelesa.
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I encourage all of you to read Steve's book or to watch the movie
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Želim da vas podstaknem da pročitate Stivovu knjigu, ili pogledate film,
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to understand not only the beautiful bond
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da biste razumeli ne samo prelepu povezanost
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that formed between these two men,
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koja je nastala između ova dva čoveka,
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but how music helped shape that bond,
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već i kako je muzika uticala na stvaranje te veze
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and ultimately was instrumental -- if you'll pardon the pun --
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i na kraju bila zaslužna za - oprostite na izrazu -
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in helping Nathaniel get off the streets.
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to da Natanijela sklonimo sa ulice.
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I met Mr. Ayers in 2008,
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Gospodina Ajersa sam upoznao 2008,
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two years ago, at Walt Disney Concert Hall.
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pre dve godine, u Volt Diznijevoj koncertnoj dvorani.
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He had just heard a performance of Beethoven's First and Fourth symphonies,
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Upravo je čuo izvođenje Betovenove prve i četvrte simfonije,
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and came backstage and introduced himself.
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i došao je iza pozornice da se predstavi.
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He was speaking in a very jovial and gregarious way
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Sa radošću i druželjubivo je pričao
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about Yo-Yo Ma and Hillary Clinton
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o čembalisti Jo-Jo Mau i Hilari Klinton,
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and how the Dodgers were never going to make the World Series,
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i kako Dodžersi nikada neće ući u finale američkog bejzbola,
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all because of the treacherous first violin passage work
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i sve to zbog nesigurnog prvog odlomka violine
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in the last movement of Beethoven's Fourth Symphony.
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u zadnjem stavu Betovenove četvrte simfonije.
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And we got talking about music, and I got an email from Steve a few days later
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Započeli smo priču o muzici. Par dana kasnije dobio sam mejl od Stiva
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saying that Nathaniel was interested in a violin lesson with me.
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u kom kaže da Natanijel želi da mu držim časove violine.
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Now, I should mention that Nathaniel refuses treatment
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Trebao bih da napomenem da Natanijel odbija lečenje
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because when he was treated it was with shock therapy
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jer su ga lečili šok terapijom,
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and Thorazine and handcuffs,
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torazinom i lisicama,
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and that scar has stayed with him for his entire life.
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i to sećanje mu je ostalo za ceo život.
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But as a result now, he is prone to
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Ali kao rezultat toga, sada je sklon
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these schizophrenic episodes,
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tim šizofrenim epizodama.
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the worst of which can manifest themselves as
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Koje se u najgorem slučaju ispoljavaju tako što
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him exploding
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on pobesni,
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and then disappearing for days,
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nestane na nekoliko dana,
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wandering the streets of Skid Row,
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lutajući ulicama Skid Roua,
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exposed to its horrors, with the torment of his own mind
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predat svojim užasima, a njegovi unutrašnji demoni
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unleashed upon him.
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ga muče.
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And Nathaniel was in such a state of agitation
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Natanijel je bio toliko uzbuđen
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when we started our first lesson at Walt Disney Concert Hall --
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kada smo započeli prvi čas u Volt Diznijevoj koncertnoj dvorani
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he had a kind of manic glint in his eyes,
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da je imao mahnit sjaj u očima,
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he was lost.
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bio je izgubljen.
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And he was talking about
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Pričao je o
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invisible demons and smoke,
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nevidljivim demonima i dimu,
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and how someone was poisoning him in his sleep.
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i o tome kako ga neko truje u snu.
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And I was afraid,
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Ja sam se plašio,
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not for myself, but I was afraid
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ne zbog sebe, već
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that I was going to lose him,
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da ću ga izgubiti,
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that he was going to sink into one of his states,
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da će zapasti u neko od njegovih raspoloženja,
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and that I would ruin his relationship with the violin
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i da ću ja da pokvarim njegov odnos prema violini
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if I started talking about scales
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ako počnem da pričam o lestvicama
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and arpeggios and other exciting forms of
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i arpeđima i drugim uzbudljivim oblicima
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didactic violin pedagogy.
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didaktičke pedagogije violine.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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So, I just started playing.
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Zato sam počeo da sviram.
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And I played the first movement of the Beethoven Violin Concerto.
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Svirao sam prvi stav Betovenovog koncerta za violinu.
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And as I played,
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I dok sam svirao
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I understood that there was a profound change
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shvatio sam da se desila duboka promena
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occurring in Nathaniel's eyes.
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u Natanijelovim očima.
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It was as if he was in the grip of some invisible pharmaceutical,
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Delovalo je kao da se nalazi u stisku nekog nevidljivog leka,
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a chemical reaction, for which my playing the music
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hemijske reakcije, za koju je to što sam svirao
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was its catalyst.
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bilo katalizator.
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And Nathaniel's manic rage
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Natanijelov mahniti bes
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was transformed into understanding,
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se pretvorio u razumevanje,
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a quiet curiosity and grace.
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tihu radoznalost, gracioznost.
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And in a miracle, he lifted his own violin
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I kao u čudu, on je podigao svoju violinu
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and he started playing, by ear,
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i počeo da po sluhu svira
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certain snippets of violin concertos
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određene isečke koncerata za violinu,
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which he then asked me to complete -- Mendelssohn,
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koje je tražio da dovršim, Mendelson,
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Tchaikovsky, Sibelius.
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Čajkovski, Sibelius.
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And we started talking about music, from Bach
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I tako smo počeli da pričamo o muzici, od Baha
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to Beethoven and Brahms,
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preko Betovena, do Bramsa,
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Bruckner, all the B's,
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Bruknera, svim na slovo B,
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from Bartók, all the way up to Esa-Pekka Salonen.
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od Bartoka, sve do Esa Peka Salonena.
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And I understood that he not only
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Shvatio sam da on ne samo da je
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had an encyclopedic knowledge of music,
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imao enciklopedijsko znanje o muzici,
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but he related to this music at a personal level.
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već i da je imao vrlo ličan odnos sa muzikom.
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He spoke about it with the kind of passion
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Pričao je o muzici sa onom vrstom strasti
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and understanding that I share with my colleagues
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i razumevanja koju imamo ja i moje kolege
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in the Los Angeles Philharmonic.
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u losanđeleskoj filharmoniji.
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And through playing music and talking about music,
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I kroz sviranje i pričanje o muzici
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this man had transformed
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on se od
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from the paranoid, disturbed man
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paranoičnog i poremećenog čoveka,
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that had just come from walking the streets
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koji je upravo došao sa ulica
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of downtown Los Angeles
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centra Los Anđelesa,
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to the charming, erudite,
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pretvorio u šarmantnog, obrazovanog,
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brilliant, Juilliard-trained musician.
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brilijantnog muzičara sa džulijardskim obrazovanjem.
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Music is medicine. Music changes us.
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Muzika je lek. Muzika nas menja.
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And for Nathaniel, music is sanity.
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A za Natanijela, muzika je zdrav um.
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Because music allows him to take his thoughts
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Jer mu muzika omogućava da uhvati svoje misli
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and delusions and shape them
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i zablude, i sprovede ih
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through his imagination and his creativity,
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svojom maštom i kreativnošću
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into reality.
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u stvarnost.
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And that is an escape
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A to je izlaz
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from his tormented state.
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iz njegovog mučnog stanja.
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And I understood that this was the very essence of art.
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Shvatio sam da je ovo sama bit umetnosti.
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This was the very reason why we made music,
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To je bio suštinski razlog zbog kog pravimo muziku,
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that we take something that exists within all of us
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što uzimamo nešto što postoji u svima nama,
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at our very fundamental core,
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u samoj našoj srži,
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our emotions,
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našim osećanjima,
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and through our artistic lens,
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i kroz našu umetničku prizmu,
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through our creativity, we're able to shape those emotions into reality.
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kroz našu kreativnost, mi prelamamo naša osećanja u stvarnost.
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And the reality of that expression
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Stvarnost tog izraza
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reaches all of us
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nas sve dotiče.
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and moves us, inspires and unites us.
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ganjava, inspiriše i ujedinjuje.
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And for Nathaniel,
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A za Natanijela
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music brought him back into a fold of friends.
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je muzika bila povratak u krug prijatelja.
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The redemptive power of music brought him back
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Iskupljujuća moć muzike ga je vratila
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into a family of musicians
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u porodicu muzičara
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that understood him,
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koja ga je razumela,
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that recognized his talents
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koja je prepoznala njegov talenat
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and respected him.
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i poštovala ga.
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And I will always make music with Nathaniel,
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Ja ću uvek svirati sa Natanijelom,
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whether we're at Walt Disney Concert Hall
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bilo da smo u Volt Diznijevoj koncertnoj dvorani
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or on Skid Row, because he reminds me
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ili na Skid Rou, zato što me on podseća na to
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why I became a musician.
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zašto sam postao muzičar.
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Thank you.
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Hvala.
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(Applause)
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05:58
Bruno Giussani: Thank you. Thanks.
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Bruno Đuzani: Hvala vam. Hvala.
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Robert Gupta.
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Robert Gupta.
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(Applause)
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(aplauz)
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Robert Gupta: I'm going to play something that I shamelessly stole from cellists.
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Robert Gupta: Želim da odsviram nešto što sam bestidno ukrao od čelista.
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So, please forgive me.
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Molim da mi oprostite.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
06:28
(Music)
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(muzika)
09:13
(Applause)
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