My year of living biblically | A.J. Jacobs

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Prevodilac: Djuro Vorkapic Lektor: Ivana Korom
00:16
I thought I'd tell you a little about what I like to write.
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Mislio sam da vam pričam o onome o čemu volim da pišem.
00:20
And I like to immerse myself in my topics.
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Volim da se udubim u svoje teme.
00:24
I just like to dive right in and become sort of a human guinea pig.
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Volim da uronim i postanem zamorče.
00:29
And I see my life as a series of experiments.
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Ja vidim svoj život kao niz eksperimenata.
00:34
So, I work for Esquire magazine, and a couple of years ago,
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Dakle, radim za "Eskvajer" magazin i pre nekoliko godina
00:38
I wrote an article called "My Outsourced Life,"
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napisao sam članak, nazvan "Moj tuđi život"
00:41
where I hired a team of people in Bangalore, India,
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zbog kojeg sam zaposlio ekipu ljudi u Bangalora, Indija,
00:45
to live my life for me.
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da žive moj život, umesto mene.
00:47
So, they answered my emails.
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Tako su oni odgovarali na moje imejlove.
00:49
They answered my phone.
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Javljali su se na moj telefon.
00:51
They argued with my wife for me, and they read my son bedtime stories.
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Raspravljali su se sa mojom ženom umesto mene i čitali su priče pred spavanje mom sinu.
00:58
It was the best month of my life,
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To je bilo najboljih mesec dana mog života,
01:00
because I just sat back and I read books and watched movies.
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jer sam se ja odmarao, čitao knjige i gledao filmove.
01:05
It was a wonderful experience.
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To je bilo divno iskustvo.
01:07
More recently, I wrote an article for Esquire called --
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Skoro sam pisao članak za "Eskvajer" koji se zove -
01:10
about radical honesty.
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o radikalnoj iskrenosti.
01:13
And this is a movement where --
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Ovo je pokret -
01:15
this is started by a psychologist in Virginia,
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pokrenuo ga je jedan psiholog iz Virdžinije,
01:19
who says that you should never, ever lie,
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koji kaže da nikad, baš nikad ne bi trebalo da lažete,
01:22
except maybe during poker and golf, his only exceptions.
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osim kada igrate poker ili golf.
01:27
And, more than that, whatever is on your brain
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Čak i više od toga, trebalo bi da kažete
01:29
should come out of your mouth.
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sve što vam je na pameti.
01:31
So, I decided I would try this for a month.
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Rešio sam da probam ovo u toku mesec dana.
01:34
This was the worst month of my life.
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To je bilo najgorih mesec dana mog života.
01:37
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:38
I do not recommend this at all.
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Nikako vam ne preporučujem ovo.
01:40
To give you a sense of the experience,
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Kako biste bolje razumeli,
01:42
the article was called, "I Think You're Fat."
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članak se zvao "Mislim da si debela".
01:46
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:48
So, that was hard.
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Bilo je vrlo teško.
01:50
My most recent book -- my previous book was called "The Know-It-All,"
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Moja najskorija knjiga - prethodna knjiga se zove "Sveznalica",
01:55
and it was about the year I spent reading the Encyclopedia Britannica
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i pisao sam o godini koju sam proveo čitajući Enciklopediju "Britanika"
01:59
from A to Z in my quest to learn everything in the world,
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od A do Z u mom pokušaju da naučim sve na svetu,
02:03
or more precisely from Aak, which is a type of East Asian music,
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ili tačnije od A-ak, što je tip muzike u Istočnoj Aziji,
02:08
all the way to Zwyiec, which is -- well, I don't want to ruin the ending.
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pa sve do Zvijeka, koji je - pa, ne želim da pokvarim kraj.
02:12
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:13
It's a very exciting twist ending, like an O. Henry novel, so I won't ruin it.
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Kraj ima uzbudljiv zaplet, kao u romanu O. Henrija, ne želim da ga pokvarim.
02:17
But I love that one,
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Ali taj mi se stvarno dopada
02:19
because that was an experiment about how much information
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jer bio je to eksperiment o tome koliko informacija
02:23
one human brain could absorb.
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može ljudski mozak da primi
02:25
Although, listening to Kevin Kelly, you don't have to remember anything.
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iako, ako slušate Kevina Kelija, ne morate ništa da pamtite.
02:29
You can just Google it.
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Dovoljno je samo Guglovati.
02:31
So, I wasted some time there.
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Tako da sam potrošio nešto svog vremena na to.
02:33
I love those experiments,
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Ja volim te eksperimente,
02:36
but I think that the most profound
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ali mislim da je najdublji
02:38
and life-changing experiment that I've done
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eksperiment koji sam uradio i koji mi je promenio život,
02:42
is my most recent experiment, where I spent a year
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moj poslednji eksperiment, kada sam proveo godinu
02:46
trying to follow all of the rules of the Bible,
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pokušavajući da poštujem pravila Biblije -
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"The Year of Living Biblically."
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"Godina života po Bibliji".
02:52
And I undertook this for two reasons.
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Ovo sam uradio iz dva razloga.
02:55
The first was that I grew up with no religion at all.
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Prvi je taj da sam odrastao u potpunosti bez religije.
02:59
As I say in my book, I'm Jewish in the same way
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I kao što sam napisao u svojoj knjizi, ja sam Jevrejin isto
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the Olive Garden is Italian.
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koliko je "Oliv Garden" italijanski restoran.
03:05
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:07
So, not very.
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Dakle, ne baš.
03:09
But I've become increasingly interested in religion.
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Ali sam baš postao zainteresovan za religiju.
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I do think it's the defining issue of our time,
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Mislim da je to glavni problem našeg vremena,
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or one of the main ones.
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ili bar jedan od glavnih.
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And I have a son. I want to know what to teach him.
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Imam sina. I hoću da znam šta da ga naučim.
03:19
So, I decided to dive in head first, and try to live the Bible.
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Odlučio sam da se upustim u to i pokušam da živim po Bibliji.
03:24
The second reason I undertook this is because
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Drugi razlog zašto sam ovo pokušao je zato što sam
03:27
I'm concerned about the rise of fundamentalism,
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zabrinut zbog širenja fundamentalizma,
03:30
religious fundamentalism, and people who say
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religijskog fundamentalizma i ljudi koji kažu
03:33
they take the Bible literally, which is, according to some polls,
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da doslovno prate Bibliju, kojih je, po nekim anketama,
03:36
as high as 45 or 50 percent of America.
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oko 45 do 50 procenata u Americi.
03:40
So I decided, what if you really did take the Bible literally?
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Tako da sam se zapitao, šta ako stvarno doslovno shvatam Bibliju?
03:44
I decided to take it to its logical conclusion
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Postojao je samo jedan logičan zaključak,
03:48
and take everything in the Bible literally,
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a to je da pratim sve što piše u Bibliji doslovno,
03:50
without picking and choosing.
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bez biranja ili ustezanja.
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The first thing I did was I got a stack of bibles.
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Prvo što sam uradio je da sam nabavio gomilu biblija.
03:56
I had Christian bibles.
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Imao sam hrišćanske biblije.
03:58
I had Jewish bibles.
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I jevrejske biblije.
04:00
A friend of mine sent me something called a hip-hop bible,
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Prijatelj mi je poslao nešto što se zove hip-hop Biblija,
04:03
where the twenty-third Psalm is rendered as, "The Lord is all that,"
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gde je 23 Psalm bio "Gospod je sve to",
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as opposed to what I knew it as, "The Lord is my shepherd."
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što je u suprotnosti sa onim što sam ja znao, "Gospod je moj vodič".
04:11
Then I went down and I read several versions,
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Onda sam pročitao nekoliko verzija,
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and I wrote down every single law that I could find.
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i zapisao sam svaki zakon koji sam uspeo da nađem.
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And this was a very long list -- over 700 rules.
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Ovo je bila podugačka lista - preko 700 zakona.
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And they range from the famous ones that I had heard of --
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Bilo je svakojakih, od onih poznatih, za koje sam čuo -
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The Ten Commandments, love your neighbor, be fruitful and multiply.
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deset božjih zapovesti, voli svog komšiju, budi veran i množi se.
04:29
So I wanted to follow those.
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Pa sam želeo te da pratim.
04:31
And actually, I take my projects very seriously,
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Svoje projekte shvatam veoma ozbiljno
04:34
because I had twins during my year,
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jer sam dobio blizance u toku te godine,
04:36
so I definitely take my projects seriously.
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tako da definitivno prihvatam projekte ozbiljno.
04:39
But I also wanted to follow the hundreds
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Ali sam istovremeno pokušavao da pratim stotine
04:42
of arcane and obscure laws that are in the Bible.
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nedokučivih i nejasnih zakona koji su u Bibliji.
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There is the law in Leviticus,
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Za primer, zakon iz "knjige Levitske" (treća knjiga po Mojsiju)
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"You cannot shave the corners of your beard."
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"Ne smeš da biriješ uglove brade svoje".
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I didn't know where my corners were,
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Nisam znao gde su ti uglovi,
04:51
so I decided to let the whole thing grow,
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pa sam odlučio da se ne brijem uopšte,
04:54
and this is what I looked like by the end.
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na kraju sam izgledao ovako.
04:57
As you can imagine, I spent a lot of time at airport security.
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Kao što možete pretpostaviti, mnogo sam vremena proveo u aerodromskom obezbeđenju.
05:01
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:03
My wife wouldn't kiss me for the last two months.
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Moja supruga je odbijala da me poljubi poslednja dva meseca.
05:06
So, certainly the challenge was there.
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Dakle, neosporno izazov je postojao.
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The Bible says you cannot wear clothes made of mixed fibers,
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Biblija kaže da ne smemo da nosimo odeću napravljenu od mešanih vlakana,
05:13
so I thought, "Sounds strange, but I'll try it."
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pomislio sam, "Zvuči čudno, ali ću probati".
05:15
You only know if you try it.
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Znaš jedino ako probaš.
05:17
I got rid of all my poly-cotton T-shirts.
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Rešio sam se svih mojih pamučnih majica.
05:20
The Bible says that if two men are in a fight,
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Biblija kaže ukoliko se dva muškarca tuku,
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and the wife of one of those men grabs the testicles of the other man,
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i ukoliko supruga jednog od tih muškaraca zgrabi testise drugog muškarca,
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then her hand shall be cut off.
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onda će njena ruka biti odsečena.
05:32
So, I wanted to follow that rule.
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Hteo sam da poštujem to pravilo.
05:34
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:35
That one I followed by default,
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Njega sam ispoštovao,
05:38
by not getting in a fight with a man whose wife was standing nearby,
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tako što nisam ulazio u sukob sa muškarcem čija je žena bila u blizini,
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looking like she had a strong grip.
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i izgledala kao da ima jak stisak.
05:45
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:48
So -- oh, there's another shot of my beard.
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Dakle -- oh, evo ga još jedan snimak moje brade.
05:52
I will say it was an amazing year
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Priznaću vam bila je to neverovatna godina
05:54
because it really was life changing, and incredibly challenging.
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zaista mi je promenila život i neverovatno me testirala.
05:57
And there were two types of laws that were particularly challenging.
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Dve vrste zakona su bile izuzetno zahtevne.
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The first was avoiding the little sins that we all commit every day.
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Prva je izbegavanje sitnih grehova koje činimo svakodnevno.
06:04
You know, I could spend a year not killing,
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Razumete, lako je bilo ne ubiti nikoga celu godinu,
06:06
but spending a year not gossiping, not coveting, not lying --
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ali provesti godinu bez tračeva, bez zavisti, bez laganja --
06:11
you know, I live in New York, and I work as a journalist,
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razumete, ja živim u Njujorku i radim kao novinar,
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so this was 75, 80 percent of my day I had to do it.
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tako da ja moram to da radim 75, 80 procenata mog dana.
06:19
But it was really interesting, because I was able to make some progress,
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Ali bilo je zaista interesantno, zato što sam uspeo da napredujem
06:24
because I couldn't believe how much
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jer nisam mogao da verujem koliko je
06:26
my behavior changed my thoughts.
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moje ponašanje promenilo moja razmišljanja.
06:29
This was one of the huge lessons of the year,
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Bila je to ogromna lekcija iz protekle godine,
06:31
is that I almost pretended to be a better person,
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a to je da sam ja izigravajući bolju osobu,
06:34
and I became a little bit of a better person.
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pomalo i postao bolja osoba.
06:37
So I had always thought, you know, "You change your mind,
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Uvek sam mislio, znate, "Kad promeniš razmišljanje,
06:42
and you change your behavior," but it's often the other way around.
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promeniš i ponašanje", ali često je suprotno.
06:45
You change your behavior, and you change your mind.
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Promenite ponašanje i promenićete i razmišljanje.
06:50
So, you know, if you want to become more compassionate,
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Dakle, ako želite da postanete više saosećajni,
06:53
you visit sick people in the hospital,
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posetite bolesne u bolnici,
06:55
and you will become more compassionate.
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i postaćete više saosećajni.
06:57
You donate money to a cause,
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Dajte novac u dobrotvorne svrhe
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and you become emotionally involved in that cause.
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i postaćete emotivno vezani za taj cilj.
07:02
So, it really was cognitive psychology --
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Dakle, to je bila prava kognitivna psihologija --
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you know, cognitive dissonance -- that I was experiencing.
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razumete, mentalni nesklad -- koji sam osećao.
07:08
The Bible actually talks about cognitive psychology,
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Biblija ustvari govori o kognitivnoj psihologiji,
07:11
very primitive cognitive psychology.
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veoma jednostavnoj kognitivnoj psihologiji.
07:13
In the Proverbs, it says that if you smile, you will become happier,
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Pa tako kaže, ako se smejete, bićete srećniji,
07:17
which, as we know, is actually true.
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što je, kao što znamo, istina.
07:20
The second type of rule that was difficult to obey
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Drugi tip zakona koji je bio težak da se ispoštuje
07:24
was the rules that will get you into a little trouble
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su zakoni koji će vas dovesti u probleme
07:27
in twenty-first-century America.
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u dvadesetprvom veku u Americi.
07:30
And perhaps the clearest example of this is stoning adulterers.
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Verovatno najjasniji primer je kamenovanje preljubnika.
07:35
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
07:36
But it's a big part of the Bible,
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Ipak je to veliki deo Biblije,
07:40
so I figured I had to address it.
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bilo mi je jasno da ne smem da ga preskočim.
07:43
So, I was able to stone one adulterer.
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Dakle, bio sam u prilici da kamenujem preljubnika.
07:45
It happened -- I was in the park, and I was dressed in my biblical clothing,
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Dogodilo se -- bio sam u parku, obučen u moju biblijsku odeću --
07:50
so sandals and sort of a white robe,
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sandale i belu haljinu --
07:53
you know, because again, the outer affects the inner.
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razumete, da ponovim, ono što je izvana utiče na ono iznutra.
07:55
I wanted to see how dressing biblically affected my mind.
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Želeo sam da vidim kako će biblijsko oblačenje da utiče na moj um.
07:59
And this man came up to me and he said,
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Taj čovek mi je prišao i rekao,
08:01
"Why are you dressed like that?"
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"Zašto si ti obučen tako?"
08:03
And I explained my project,
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I onda sam mu ja objasnio moj projekat,
08:05
and he said, "Well, I am an adulterer, are you going to stone me?"
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na šta je on odgovorio, "Pa ja sam preljubnik, hoćes li me kamenovati?"
08:08
And I said, "Well, that would be great!"
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I ja sam odgovorio, "Pa to bi bilo izuzetno!"
08:11
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:16
And I actually took out a handful of stones from my pocket
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I zgrabio sam šaku kamenja iz svog džepa
08:21
that I had been carrying around for weeks,
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koje sam nedeljama nosio naokolo,
08:23
hoping for just this interaction -- and, you know, they were pebbles --
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nadajući se ovome -- naravno, bili su to kamenčići --
08:27
but he grabbed them out of my hand.
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ali on ih je ugrabio iz moje ruke.
08:30
He was actually an elderly man, mid-70s, just so you know.
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On je ustvari bio stariji čovek, sredina sedamdesetih, tek da znate.
08:33
But he's still an adulterer, and still quite angry.
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Ali ipak on je još uvek preljubnik i još uvek poprilično ljut.
08:35
He grabbed them out of my hand
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Zgrabio ih je iz moje ruke
08:37
and threw them at my face, and I felt that I could --
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i bacio u moje lice, ja sam shvatio da bih mogao --
08:40
eye for an eye -- I could retaliate, and throw one back at him.
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oko za oko, mogao bih uzvratiti i baciti jedan na njega.
08:44
So that was my experience stoning, and it did allow me
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Dakle to je moje iskustvo sa kamenovanjem i ono mi je omogućilo
08:47
to talk about, in a more serious way, these big issues.
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da ozbiljno govorim o ovim velikim problemima.
08:52
How can the Bible be so barbaric in some places,
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Kako je moguće da je Biblija toliko varvarska na nekim mestima,
08:56
and yet so incredibly wise in others?
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a istovremeno toliko mudra na drugim?
08:59
How should we view the Bible?
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Kako bi trebalo da posmatramo Bibliju?
09:01
Should we view it, you know, as original intent,
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Da li bi trebalo da posmatramo originalno razmišljanje
09:03
like a sort of a Scalia version of the Bible?
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da je tumačimo na konzervativan način?
09:08
How was the Bible written?
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Kako je Biblija napisana?
09:10
And actually, since this is a tech crowd,
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I ustvari, budući da je ovo publika sa tehničkim predznanjem
09:12
I talk in the book about how the Bible actually reminds me
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u knjizi objašnjavam kako me Biblija podseća
09:16
of the Wikipedia, because it has all of these authors and editors
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na "Wikipediu" zato što ima mnogo autora i urednika
09:19
over hundreds of years.
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u toku nekoliko stotina godina.
09:21
And it's sort of evolved.
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I tako se vremenom menjala.
09:23
It's not a book that was written and came down from on high.
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To nije knjiga koja je pala sa nebesa.
09:28
So I thought I would end by telling you
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Mislim da bi trebalo da završim tako što ću vam reći
09:32
just a couple of the take-aways, the bigger lessons
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nekoliko većih pouka
09:35
that I learned from my year.
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koje sam naučio u toku te godine.
09:38
The first is, thou shalt not take the Bible literally.
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Prva je -- ne uzmi Bibliju zdravo za gotovo.
09:42
This became very, very clear, early on.
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Ovo je postalo veoma, veoma jasno već na početku.
09:45
Because if you do, then you end up acting like a crazy person,
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Zato što ako je razumete doslovno, ponašaćete se kao ludak,
09:48
and stoning adulterers, or -- here's another example.
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i kamenovaćete preljubnike ili -- evo drugog primera --
09:51
Well, that's another. I did spend some time shepherding.
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pa, ovo je nešto drugo -- proveo sam neko vreme kao čobanin.
09:56
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:57
It's a very relaxing vocation. I recommend it.
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To je veoma opuštajuća profesija. Preporučujem vam.
10:01
But this one is -- the Bible says that you cannot touch women
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Ovo sam hteo da vam pokažem, Biblija kaže da ne smete dodirnuti ženu
10:05
during certain times of the month, and more than that,
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u toku određenog vremena u mesecu i štaviše,
10:08
you cannot sit on a seat where a menstruating woman has sat.
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ne smete sedeti na mestu gde je žena u toku menstruacije sedela.
10:12
And my wife thought this was very offensive,
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Moja žena je shvatila ovo veoma uvredljivo,
10:14
so she sat in every seat in our apartment,
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tako da je ona sela na svako mesto u našem stanu,
10:16
and I had to spend much of the year standing
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pa sam ja morao da provedem veći period u toku te godine stojeći
10:19
until I bought my own seat and carried it around.
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sve dok nisam kupio stolicu koju sam nosio sa sobom.
10:25
So, you know, I met with creationists.
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I tako sam, razumete, sreo sam se sa kreacionistima.
10:29
I went to the creationists' museum.
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Otišao sam u njihov muzej.
10:31
And these are the ultimate literalists.
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Oni su sve shvatili doslovno.
10:33
And it was fascinating, because they were not stupid people at all.
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Bilo je fascinantno, jer oni uopšte nisu glupi ljudi.
10:36
I would wager that their IQ is exactly the same as the average evolutionist.
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Mogao bih se opkladiti da je njihov IQ jednak kao i kod prosečnog evolucioniste.
10:39
It's just that their faith is so strong
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Jedina razlika je njihova snažna vera
10:42
in this literal interpretation of the Bible
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u svoju doslovnu interpretaciju Biblije
10:44
that they distort all the data to fit their model.
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toliko da je iskrivila sve podatke da bi se uklopila u njihovo verovanje.
10:49
And they go through these amazing mental gymnastics to accomplish this.
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A oni prolaze kroz neverovatne mentalne napore da bi to postigli.
10:53
And I will say, though, the museum is gorgeous.
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Moram vam reći, ipak, muzej je veličanstven.
10:58
They really did a fantastic job.
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Stvarno su uradili fantastičan posao.
11:00
If you're ever in Kentucky,
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Ukoliko ikad odete u Kentaki,
11:01
there's, you can see a movie of the flood,
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tamo ima -- možete videti film o potopu,
11:04
and they have sprinklers in the ceiling
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čak imaju i prskalice u plafonu
11:06
that will sprinkle on you during the flood scenes.
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koje prskaju u toku scena potopa.
11:10
So, whatever you think of creationism -- and I think it's crazy --
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Tako da, šta god da mislite o kreacionizmu, a ja mislim da je besmisleno,
11:13
they did a great job.
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oni su ipak uradili odličan posao.
11:16
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:18
Another lesson is that thou shalt give thanks.
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Sledeća pouka je da pokažete zahvalnost.
11:22
And this one was a big lesson because I was praying,
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Ova lekcija je važna jer sam se molio,
11:26
giving these prayers of thanksgiving, which was odd for an agnostic.
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molio sam se iz zahvalnosti, što je pomalo čudno za agnostika.
11:30
But I was saying thanks all the time, every day,
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Ali ipak sam se zahvaljivao non-stop, svaki dan,
11:34
and I started to change my perspective.
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i počeo sam da menjam moje razmišljanje,
11:37
And I started to realize the hundreds of little things
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počeo sam da primećujem stotine malih stvari
11:40
that go right every day, that I didn't even notice,
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koje se dešavaju svaki dan, a koje nisam nikada primećivao,
11:44
that I took for granted, as opposed to focusing
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koje sam smatrao beznačajnim -- nepotrebno se koncentrišući
11:46
on the three or four that went wrong.
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na tri ili četri koje su bile pogrešne.
11:50
So, this is actually a key to happiness for me,
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Dakle, ovo je ustvari ključ sreće za mene,
11:53
is to just remember when I came over here,
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to da kada sam stigao ovamo,
11:55
the car didn't flip over, and I didn't trip coming up the stairs.
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auto se nije prevrnuo i nisam posrnuo penjući se stepenicama.
11:59
It's a remarkable thing.
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To je izuzetna stvar.
12:03
Third, that thou shall have reverence.
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Treća pouka, je da morate imati strahopoštovanja.
12:05
This one was unexpected because I started the year
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Ovo je bilo neočekivano zato što sam počeo godinu
12:08
as an agnostic, and by the end of the year,
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kao agnostik, a do kraja godine
12:10
I became what a friend of mine calls a reverent agnostic, which I love.
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postao sam ono što je moj prijatelj nazvao ponizni agnostik, meni se to sviđa.
12:15
And I'm trying to start it as a movement.
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Pokušaću da to pretvorim u pokret.
12:17
So, if anyone wants to join,
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Tako da ukoliko neko želi da se pridruži,
12:19
the basic idea is, whether or not there is a God,
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osnovna ideja je da, bez obzira ima li boga,
12:22
there's something important and beautiful about the idea of sacredness,
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postoji toliko važna i prekrasna ideja o duhovnosti,
12:26
and that our rituals can be sacred.
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i tome da naši postupci mogu da budu prosvećeni.
12:28
The Sabbath can be sacred.
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Sabat može da bude prosvećen.
12:31
This was one of the great things about my year, doing the Sabbath,
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Poštovanje sabata je jedna od najboljih stvari u protekloj godini,
12:34
because I am a workaholic, so having this one day
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budući da mnogo volim da radim, imati ovaj jedan dan
12:38
where you cannot work, it really, that changed my life.
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kad ne možete da radite -- iskreno, to je promenilo moj život.
12:42
So, this idea of sacredness, whether or not there is a God.
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Dakle, ideja o prosvećenosti, nebitno ima li boga.
12:47
Thou shall not stereotype.
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Nemojte gajiti stereotipe.
12:49
This one happened because
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Ovo sam naučio zato što
12:51
I spent a lot of time with various religious communities
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sam proveo mnogo vremena sa različitim verskim grupama
12:54
throughout America because I wanted it to be more
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u Americi, jer sam želeo da ovo bude više
12:56
than about my journey.
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od mog istraživanja.
12:58
I wanted it to be about religion in America.
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Želeo sam da ovo bude o religiji u Americi.
13:01
So, I spent time with evangelical Christians, and Hasidic Jews, and the Amish.
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Tako da sam proveo vreme sa evanđelistima, jevrejima i amišima.
13:05
I'm very proud because
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Veoma sam ponosan jer
13:07
I think I'm the only person in America
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mislim da sam ja jedina osoba u Americi
13:09
to out Bible-talk a Jehovah's Witness.
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koja može više da govori o Bibliji od Jehovinih svedoka.
13:12
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:13
After three and a half hours, he looked at his watch,
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Nakon više od tri sata, pogledao je na svoj sat,
13:16
he's like, "I gotta go."
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kao, "Moram da pođem".
13:18
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:20
Oh, thank you very much.
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Oh, hvala vam.
13:25
Thank you. Bless you, bless you.
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Hvala. Bog vas blagoslovio.
13:27
But it was interesting
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Bilo je interesantno
13:29
because I had some very preconceived notions about, for instance,
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zato što sam ja imao neko unapred stvoreno mišljenje o, na primer
13:32
evangelical Christianity, and I found that
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evanđelističkom hrišćanstvu i pronašao sam
13:36
it's such a wide and varied movement
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da je to toliko opširan i raznovrstan pokret
13:38
that it is difficult to make generalizations about it.
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da je teško napraviti uopštene stavove o tome.
13:44
There's a group I met with called the Red Letter Christians,
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Postoji grupa sa kojom sam se susreo koja se zove hrišćani crvenog pisma,
13:47
and they focus on the red words in the Bible,
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oni se fokusiraju na crvene reči u Bibliji,
13:50
which are the ones that Jesus spoke.
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a to su one koje je Hrist izgovarao --
13:52
That's how they printed them in the old Bibles.
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tako su ih štampali u starim Biblijama.
13:54
And their argument is that Jesus never talked about homosexuality.
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Njihov argument je da Hrist nikada nije govorio o homoseksualnosti.
13:59
They have a pamphlet that says,
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Imaju brošuru koja kaže,
14:01
"Here's what Jesus said about homosexuality,"
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"Evo šta Hrist kaže o homoseksualnosti",
14:03
and you open it up, and there's nothing in it.
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i kad je otvorite, tamo nema ništa.
14:06
So, they say Jesus did talk a lot about helping the outcasts,
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Kažu Hrist je govorio mnogo o pomaganju beskućnicima,
14:12
helping poor people.
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pomaganju siromašnima.
14:15
So, this was very inspiring to me.
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Ovo me je veoma inspirisalo.
14:19
I recommend Jim Wallis and Tony Campolo.
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Preporučujem Džima Volasa i Tonija Kampola.
14:24
They're very inspiring leaders, even though I disagree
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Oni su veoma nadahnute vođe, iako se ja ne slažem
14:28
with much of what they say.
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sa mnogo toga što su oni rekli.
14:30
Also, thou shalt not disregard the irrational.
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Isto tako, ne smete zanemariti iracionalno.
14:33
This one was very unexpected because, you know,
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Ovo je bilo veoma neočekivano zato što, razumete,
14:37
I grew up with the scientific worldview,
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odrastao sam sa naučnim pogledom na svet,
14:40
and I was shocked learning how much of my life
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bilo je iznenađujuće saznati koliko mnogo od mog života
14:47
is governed by irrational forces.
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je vođeno iracionalnim porivima.
14:50
And the thing is, if they're not harmful,
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Ustvari, ukoliko nisu štetni,
14:54
they're not to be completely dismissed.
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neće ni biti potpuno zanemareni.
14:56
Because I learned that -- I was thinking, I was
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Shvatio sam da -- mislio sam,
15:00
doing all these rituals, these biblical rituals,
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čineći sve ove rituale, biblijske rituale,
15:03
separating my wool and linen, and I would ask these religious people
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odvajajući vunu i platno, znao sam da zapitam te religiozne ljude
15:07
"Why would the Bible possibly tell us to do this? Why would God care?"
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"Zašto nam je Biblija naložila da uradimo ovo? Zašto bog brine o tome?"
15:11
And they said, "We don't know,
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I oni bi odgovorili. "Ne znamo,
15:13
but it's just rituals that give us meaning."
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ali to su rituali koji nam daju smisao."
15:17
And I would say, "But that's crazy."
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I onda bih ja rekao, "Ali to je suludo."
15:19
And they would say, "Well, what about you?
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A oni bi uzvratili, "A, šta sa tobom?
15:21
You blow out candles on top of a birthday cake.
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Duvaš svećice na rođendanskoj torti.
15:26
If a guy from Mars came down and saw, here's one guy
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Da se neko spusti sa Marsa i vidi jednog
15:30
blowing out the fire on top of a cake
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koji duva u vatru na vrhu torte
15:34
versus another guy not wearing clothes of mixed fabrics,
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i drugog koji ne nosi garderobu od mešane tkanine
15:38
would the Martians say, 'Well, that guy, he makes sense,
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Šta bi on rekao, "Pa, ovaj je razuman,
15:42
but that guy's crazy?'"
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ali ovaj drugi je sulud?"
15:44
So no, I think that rituals are, by nature, irrational.
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Verovatno ne, mislim da su rituali po svojoj prirodi iracionalni.
15:49
So the key is to choose the right rituals,
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Znači ključ je izabrati odgovarajuće rituale,
15:52
the ones that are not harmful -- but rituals by themselves
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one koji nisu štetni -- a rituali kao takvi
15:58
are not to be dismissed.
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neće nestati.
16:01
And finally I learned that thou shall pick and choose.
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I konačno naučio sam da svako ima pravo da izabere.
16:05
And this one I learned because
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Ovo sam naučio zato što
16:07
I tried to follow everything in the Bible.
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sam pokušao da sledim sve iz biblije.
16:09
And I failed miserably.
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Bio je to totalni neuspeh.
16:11
Because you can't.
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Zato što je to nemoguće.
16:13
You have to pick and choose. And anyone who follows the Bible
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Morate da izaberete i svako ko sledi bibliju
16:16
is going to be picking and choosing.
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mora da izabere.
16:18
The key is to pick and choose the right parts.
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Ključ je da se izaberu odgovarajući delovi.
16:23
There's the phrase called cafeteria religion,
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Postoji i fraza "kafe religija"
16:27
and the fundamentalists will use it in a denigrating way,
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fundamentalisti je koriste da bi podcenili nekog,
16:31
and they'll say, "Oh, it's just cafeteria religion.
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rekli bi "O, to je kafe religija.
16:33
You're just picking and choosing."
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Ti tu nešto biraš i izabiraš."
16:34
But my argument is, "What's wrong with cafeterias?"
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Ali moj argument je, "Šta je loše sa kafeterijama?"
16:38
I've had some great meals at cafeterias.
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Imao samo odlične obroke u kafeterijama
16:40
I've also had some meals that make me want to dry heave.
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ali i neke obroke koji su me skoro naterali na povraćanje.
16:44
So, it's about choosing the parts of the Bible about compassion,
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Dakle, ustvari sve je o izboru delova Biblije o saosećanju,
16:48
about tolerance, about loving your neighbor,
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o toleranciji, o ljubavi prema komšiji,
16:51
as opposed to the parts about homosexuality is a sin,
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suprotno delovima po kojima je homoseksualnost greh,
16:56
or intolerance, or violence,
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ili o netoleranciji ili o nasilju,
16:58
which are very much in the Bible as well.
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kojih takođe ima mnogo u Bibliji.
17:00
So if we are to find any meaning in this book,
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Znači ukoliko tražimo neko značenje u ovoj knjizi,
17:04
then we have to really engage it, and wrestle with it.
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onda bi zaista trebalo da se založimo i izborimo.
17:08
And I thought I'd end with just a couple more.
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I na kraju završiću sa još par primera.
17:11
There's me reading the Bible.
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Ovde ja čitam Bibliju.
17:13
That's how I hailed taxicabs.
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Ovako sam zaustavljao taksi.
17:15
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
17:18
Seriously, and it worked. And yes,
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Ozbiljno, i uspevalo je -- i da,
17:20
that was actually a rented sheep,
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ovo je iznajmljena ovca,
17:23
so I had to return that in the morning, but it served well for a day.
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morao sam da je vratim ujutro, ali poslužila je odlično u toku dana.
17:28
So, anyway, thank you so much for letting me speak.
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Dakle, svakako, hvala vam mnogo što ste mi dozvolili da održim govor.
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