Christopher deCharms: A look inside the brain in real time

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Prevoditelj: Romana Perković Recezent: Predrag Pale
00:12
Hi. I'm going to ask you to raise your arms and wave back,
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Bok. Zamolit ću vas da podignete ruke i mašete,
00:15
just the way I am -- kind of a royal wave.
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ovako kao ja – kraljevski.
00:18
You can mimic what you can see.
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Možete oponašati ono što vidite.
00:20
You can program the hundreds of muscles in your arm.
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Možete programirati stotine mišića u svojoj ruci.
00:23
Soon, you'll be able to look inside your brain and program,
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A ubrzo, moći ćete pogledati u svoj mozak i programirati,
00:28
control the hundreds of brain areas that you see there.
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kontrolirati stotine moždanih regija koje tamo vidite.
00:30
I'm going to tell you about that technology.
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Pričat ću vam o toj tehnologiji.
00:33
People have wanted to look inside the human mind,
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Ljudi su u ljudski um i ljudski mozak
00:34
the human brain, for thousands of years.
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htjeli pogledati već tisućama godina.
00:37
Well, coming out of the research labs just now, for our generation, is the possibility to do that.
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Iz istraživačkih laboratorija našoj generaciji upravo stiže mogućnost to učiniti.
00:42
People envision this as being very difficult.
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Ljudi misle da je to jako teško.
00:44
You had to take a spaceship, shrink it down, inject it into the bloodstream.
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Morali ste uzeti svemirski brod, smanjiti ga i ubrizgati ga u krvotok.
00:48
It was terribly dangerous. (Laughter)
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Bilo je strašno opasno.
00:50
You could be attacked by white blood cells in the arteries.
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Mogle su vas napasti bijele krvne stanice u arterijama.
00:53
But now, we have a real technology to do this.
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Ali sada imamo pravu tehnologiju za to.
00:57
We're going to fly into my colleague Peter's brain.
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Uletjet ćemo u mozak mog kolege Petera.
00:59
We're going to do it non-invasively using MRI.
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Učinit ćemo to neinvazivno koristeći MRI.
01:02
We don't have to inject anything. We don't need radiation.
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Ne moramo ništa ubrizgati. Ne treba nam radijacija.
01:06
We will be able to fly into the anatomy of Peter's brain -- literally, fly into his body --
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Moći ćemo uletjeti u anatomiju Peterovog mozga – doslovno uletjeti u njegovo tijelo –
01:11
but more importantly, we can look into his mind.
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ali još važnije, možemo pogledati unutar njegovog uma.
01:13
When Peter moves his arm, that yellow spot you see there
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Kada Peter pomakne svoju ruku, ova žuta točka je mjesto
01:16
is the interface to the functioning of Peter's mind taking place.
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gdje Peterov um obavlja tu funkciju.
01:20
Now you've seen before that with electrodes you can control robotic arms,
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Već ste vidjeli da se uz pomoć elektroda mogu kontrolirati robotske ruke,
01:23
that brain imaging and scanners can show you the insides of brains.
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da snimanje i skeniranje mozga može pokazati unutrašnjost mozga.
01:27
What's new is that that process has typically taken days or months of analysis.
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Za taj posao su trebali dani ili mjeseci analize.
01:32
We've collapsed that through technology to milliseconds,
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Nova tehnologija smanjuje to vrijeme na milisekunde.
01:35
and that allows us to let Peter to look at his brain in real time as he's inside the scanner.
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To omogućuje Peteru da gleda svoj mozak u stvarnom vremenu dok je u procesu skeniranja.
01:39
He can look at these 65,000 points of activation per second.
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Može gledati u ovih 65,000 pobuđenih točaka u sekundi.
01:44
If he can see this pattern in his own brain, he can learn how to control it.
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Ako može vidjeti taj uzorak u svom mozgu, može naučiti kontrolirati ga.
01:48
There have been three ways to try to impact the brain:
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Do sada se na mozak moglo utjecati na tri načina:
01:51
the therapist's couch, pills and the knife.
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psihijatrijski kauč, lijekovi i nož.
01:55
This is a fourth alternative that you are soon going to have.
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Ovo je četvrta mogućnost koju ćete uskoro imati.
01:59
We all know that as we form thoughts, they form deep channels in our minds and in our brains.
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Znamo da oblikovanjem misli one oblikuju dubinske kanale u našem umu i mozgu.
02:04
Chronic pain is an example. If you burn yourself, you pull your hand away.
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Primjerice, kronična bol. Ako se opečete, odmah odmičete ruku.
02:08
But if you're still in pain in six months' or six years' time,
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Ali ako ste u bolovima sljedećih šest mjeseci ili šest godina,
02:12
it's because these circuits are producing pain that's no longer helping you.
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to je iz razloga što ti spojevi stvaraju bol koja vam više ne pomaže.
02:16
If we can look at the activation in the brain that's producing the pain,
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Ako možemo vidjeti aktivnost u mozgu koja stvara bol,
02:19
we can form 3D models and watch in real time the brain process information,
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možemo oblikovati 3D modele i promatrati u stvarnom vremenu kako mozak obrađuje informaciju.
02:24
and then we can select the areas that produce the pain.
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Onda možemo prepoznati područja koja stvaraju bol.
02:27
So put your arms back up and flex your bicep.
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Podignite sad ruku gore i stegnite biceps.
02:30
Now imagine that you will soon be able to look inside your brain
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Zamislite da ćete uskoro moći gledati u svoj mozak
02:34
and select brain areas to do that same thing.
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i odabrati područja mozga koja će napraviti tu istu stvar.
02:36
What you're seeing here is, we've selected the pathways in the brain of a chronic pain patient.
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Ovdje vidite moždane putove u mozgu pacijenta s kroničnom boli.
02:40
This may shock you, but we're literally reading this person's brain in real time.
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Možda će vas šokirati, ali doslovno čitamo mozak te osobe u stvarnom vremenu.
02:44
They're watching their own brain activation,
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Oni gledaju svoju osobnu moždanu aktivnost
02:46
and they're controlling the pathway that produces their pain.
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te kontroliraju putove koji stvaraju njihovu bol.
02:50
They're learning to flex this system that releases their own endogenous opiates.
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Uče kako poticati sustav koji otpušta njihove vlastite, endogene opijate.
02:54
As they do it, in the upper left is a display
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Dok to rade, gore lijevo se prikazuje
02:57
that's yoked to their brain activation of their own pain being controlled.
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njihova moždana aktivnost i kontrole njihove boli.
03:01
When they control their brain, they can control their pain.
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Dok kontroliraju svoj mozak, mogu kontrolirati svoju bol.
03:05
This is an investigational technology,
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Ovo je tehnologija koja se istražuje,
03:07
but, in clinical trials, we're seeing a 44 to 64 percent decrease in chronic pain patients.
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ali u kliničkim pokusima smo primjetili 44 do 64 posto smanjenja kronične boli pacijenata.
03:12
This is not "The Matrix." You can only do this to yourself. You take control.
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Ovo nije «Matrix». Možete to učiniti samo na sebi. Vi preuzimate kontrolu.
03:17
I've seen inside my brain. You will too, soon.
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Gledao sam unutar svog mozga. I vi ćete, uskoro.
03:21
When you do, what do you want to control?
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Kada uđete unutra, što želite kontrolirati?
03:24
You will be able to look at all the aspects that make you yourself, all your experiences.
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Moći ćete pogledati sve strane koje čine vašu osobnost, sva vaša iskustva.
03:29
These are some of the areas we're working on today that I don't have time to go into in detail.
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Ovo su neka područja na kojima danas radimo, no nemamo sada vremena ulaziti u detalje.
03:34
But I want to leave with you the big question.
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Ali želim vam ostaviti veliko pitanje.
03:37
We are the first generation that's going to be able to enter into,
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Mi smo prva generacija koja će moći ući unutar uma
03:40
using this technology, the human mind and brain.
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i mozga koristeći tehnologiju.
03:43
Where will we take it?
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