How to control someone else's arm with your brain | Greg Gage

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Translator: Eva Sarmiento Reviewer: Serv. de Norm. Lingüística U. de Santiago de Compostela
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The brain is an amazing and complex organ.
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O cerebro é un órgano asombroso e complexo.
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And while many people are fascinated by the brain,
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E aínda que a algunhas persoas lles fascina o cerebro,
non poden dicir moito sobre as súas propiedades,
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they can't really tell you that much
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about the properties about how the brain works
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sobre como traballa
porque a neurociencia non se ensina nas escolas.
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because we don't teach neuroscience in schools.
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And one of the reasons why is that the equipment
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E unha das razóns polas que isto ocorre
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is so complex and so expensive
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é que o equipamento é tan complexo e tan caro
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that it's really only done at major universities and large institutions.
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que só se emprega nas grandes universidades e institucións.
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And so in order to be able to access the brain,
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Así que, para poder acceder ao cerebro,
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you really need to dedicate your life
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precisas dedicar a túa vida
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and spend six and a half years as a graduate student
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e pasar seis anos e medio como estudante de posgrao
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just to become a neuroscientist to get access to these tools.
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para ser neurocientífico e ter acceso a estas ferramentas.
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And that's a shame because one out of five of us,
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E iso é unha pena xa que unha de cada cinco persoas,
00:47
that's 20 percent of the entire world, will have a neurological disorder.
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o 20% de todo o mundo, padecerá unha enfermidade neurolóxica.
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And there are zero cures for these diseases.
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E non existen curas para estas enfermidades.
00:54
And so it seems that what we should be doing
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Por iso, ó mellor o que deberiamos facer
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is reaching back earlier in the eduction process
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é comezar antes o proceso de educación
00:59
and teaching students about neuroscience so that in the future,
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e ensinarlles neurociencia aos estudantes para que no futuro
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they may be thinking about possibly becoming a brain scientist.
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poidan pensar na posibilidade de converterse en neurocientíficos.
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When I was a graduate student, my lab mate Tim Marzullo and myself,
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Cando era estudante de posgrao, o meu compañeiro Tim Marzullo e eu
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decided that what if we took this complex equipment that we have
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pensamos que deberiamos coller este complexo equipamento que tiñamos
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for studying the brain and made it simple enough and affordable enough
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para estudar o cerebro e simplificalo e abaratalo o suficiente
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that anyone that you know, an amateur or a high school student,
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como para que calquera afeccionado ou un estudante de ensino medio,
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could learn and actually participate in the discovery of neuroscience.
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puidese aprender e participar no descubrimento da neurociencia.
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And so we did just that.
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E así o fixemos.
01:27
A few years ago, we started a company called Backyard Brains
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Hai uns anos, fundamos unha compañía chamada Backyard Brains
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and we make DIY neuroscience equipment and I brought some here tonight,
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que ofrece uns kits domésticos de equipamento neurocientífico
que trouxen hoxe aquí para facer algunhas demostracións.
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and I want to do some demonstrations.
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01:37
You guys want to see some?
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Querédelos ver?
01:38
So I need a volunteer.
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Necesito un voluntario.
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So right before -- what is your name? (Applause)
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Antes de nada-- cal é o teu nome? (Aplausos)
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Sam Kelly: Sam.
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Sam Kelly: Sam.
01:45
Greg Gage: All right, Sam, I'm going to record from your brain.
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Greg Gage: Vale, Sam, vou gravar o teu cerebro.
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Have you had this before?
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Fixéchelo algunha vez?
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SK: No.
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SK: Non.
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GG: I need you to stick out your arm for science,
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GG: Necesito que ergas o brazo para a ciencia,
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roll up your sleeve a bit,
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refúcete un pouco.
01:54
So what I'm going to do, I'm putting electrodes on your arm,
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O que vou facer é pórche eléctrodos no brazo,
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and you're probably wondering,
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e ti preguntaraste,
dixeches que me ías gravar o cerebro, que fas co meu brazo?
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I just said I'm going to record from your brain, what am I doing with your arm?
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02:02
Well, you have about 80 billion neurons inside your brain right now.
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Tes uns oitenta mil millóns de neuronas no cerebro agora mesmo.
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They're sending electrical messages back and forth, and chemical messages.
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Están mandando dun lado para outro mensaxes eléctricas e químicas.
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But some of your neurons right here in your motor cortex
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Pero algunhas das túas neuronas situadas no teu córtex motor
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are going to send messages down when you move your arm like this.
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enviarán mensaxes cando movas o brazo deste xeito.
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They're going to go down across your corpus callosum,
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Baixarán polo teu corpo caloso,
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down onto your spinal cord to your lower motor neuron
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pasando pola medula espiñal ata a neurona motora inferior
ata os músculos aquí,
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out to your muscles here,
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e esa descarga eléctrica será recollida por estes eléctrodos.
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and that electrical discharge is going to be picked up
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02:24
by these electrodes right here
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02:25
and we're going to be able to listen
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Deste xeito poderemos escoitar
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to exactly what your brain is going to be doing.
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exactamente o que o teu cerebro estará facendo.
02:29
So I'm going to turn this on for a second.
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Vou prender isto un momento...
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Have you ever heard what your brain sounds like?
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Algunha vez escoitaches o teu cerebro?
SK: Non.
GG: Imos probar. Aperta o puño.
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SK: No.
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02:35
GG: Let's try it out. So go ahead and squeeze your hand.
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(Ruído)
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(Rumbling)
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02:38
So what you're listening to,
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O que estás escoitando (Ruído)
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so this is your motor units happening right here.
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é a túa unidade motora traballando.
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Let's take a look at it as well.
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Ímoslle botar un ollo.
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So I'm going to stand over here,
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Eu vou quedar aquí,
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and I'm going to open up our app here.
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vou abrir a nosa aplicación.
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So now I want you to squeeze.
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Agora aperta.
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(Rumbling)
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(Ruído)
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So right here, these are the motor units that are happening
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Estas son as unidades motoras que xorden da súa medula espiñal
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from her spinal cord out to her muscle right here,
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ata o seu músculo aquí, e mentres fai iso,
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and as she's doing it,
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vemos a actividade eléctrica que se xera.
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you're seeing the electrical activity that's happening here.
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Ata podemos facer clic para ver unha delas.
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You can even click here and try to see one of them.
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Sigue apertando forte.
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So keep doing it really hard.
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Ímonos deter nun potencial de acción motora
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So now we've paused
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que se está producindo agora mesmo no teu cerebro.
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on one motor action potential that's happening right now inside of your brain.
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03:13
Do you guys want to see some more?
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Queredes ver máis?
(Aplausos)
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(Applause)
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03:16
That's interesting, but let's get it better.
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Isto foi interesante, pero vai ser aínda mellor.
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I need one more volunteer.
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Preciso outro voluntario.
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What is your name, sir?
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Como te chamas?
Miguel Goncalves: Miguel. GG: Miguel, de acordo.
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Miguel Goncalves: Miguel.
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GG: Miguel, all right.
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03:26
You're going to stand right here.
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Vaste colocar aquí.
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So when you're moving your arm like this,
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Cando moves o brazo deste xeito
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your brain is sending a signal down to your muscles right here.
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o teu cerebro está enviando un sinal aos músculos.
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I want you to move your arm as well.
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Move ti tamén o brazo.
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So your brain is going to send a signal down to your muscles.
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O teu cerebro vaille mandar un sinal aos teus músculos.
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And so it turns out that there is a nerve that's right here
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E resulta que xusto aquí hai un nervio
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that runs up here that innervates these three fingers,
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que baixa por aquí e inerva estes tres dedos
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and it's close enough to the skin that we might be able
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e está tan preto da pel que podemos estimulalo,
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to stimulate that so that what we can do
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o que nos permite copiar os sinais
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is copy your brain signals going out to your hand
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que van do teu cerebro á túa man
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and inject it into your hand,
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e transferilos á túa man,
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so that your hand will move when your brain tells your hand to move.
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de xeito que a túa man moverase cando o teu cerebro llo diga.
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So in a sense, she will take away your free will
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En certo sentido, ela quitarache o teu libre albedrío
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and you will no longer have any control over this hand.
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e non terás ningún control sobre a túa propia man.
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You with me?
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Estás listo?
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So I just need to hook you up.
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Só teño que conectarte.
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(Laughter)
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(Risas)
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So I'm going to find your ulnar nerve,
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Vou buscar o teu nervio ulnar,
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which is probably right around here.
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que debería estar por aquí.
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You don't know what you're signing up for
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Non sabías no que te estabas metendo cando subiches.
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when you come up.
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So now I'm going to move away and we're going to plug it in
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Agora voume apartar
e ímonos conectar á interface humano-a-humano.
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to our human-to-human interface over here.
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04:24
Okay, so Sam, I want you to squeeze your hand again.
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Entón, Sam, quero que apertes a man outra vez.
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Do it again. Perfect.
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Outra vez. Perfecto.
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So now I'm going to hook you up over here so that you get the --
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Agora voute conectar para que recibas o--
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It's going to feel a little bit weird at first,
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É algo raro ó principio,
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this is going to feel like a -- (Laughter)
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é como se-- (Risas)
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You know, when you lose your free will, and someone else becomes your agent,
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Cando perdes a túa liberdade de decisión,
e outra persoa se converte no teu portavoz é unha cousa un pouco rara.
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it does feel a bit strange.
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04:44
Now I want you to relax your hand.
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Agora quero que relaxes a man.
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Sam, you're with me?
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Sam, estás lista?
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So you're going to squeeze.
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Aperta a man.
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I'm not going to turn it on yet, so go ahead and give it a squeeze.
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Non o vou acender aínda, así que aperta sen medo.
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So now, are you ready, Miguel?
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Estás listo, Miguel?
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MG: Ready as I'll ever be.
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MG: Todo o preparado que poida estar.
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GG: I've turned it on, so go ahead and turn your hand.
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GG: Acabo de acendelo, así que aperta a man.
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Do you feel that a little bit? MG: Nope.
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Sentes algo? MG: Non.
GG: Vale, dálle outra vez. MG: Agora un pouco.
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GG: Okay, do it again? MG: A little bit.
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05:03
GG: A little bit? (Laughter)
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GG: Un pouco? (Risas)
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So relax.
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Reláxate.
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So hit it again.
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Dobra outra vez.
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(Laughter)
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(Risas).
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Oh, perfect, perfect.
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Perfecto, perfecto.
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So relax, do it again.
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Reláxate, faino outra vez.
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All right, so right now,
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Vale, agora, (Risas)
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your brain is controlling your arm and it's also controlling his arm,
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o teu cerebro está controlando o teu brazo e tamén controla o seu,
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so go ahead and just do it one more time.
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así que dálle unha vez máis.
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All right, so it's perfect. (Laughter)
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Moi ben, está perfecto. (Risas)
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So now, what would happen if I took over my control of your hand?
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E agora que pasaría se eu tomara o control da túa man?
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And so, just relax your hand.
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Ti simplemente relaxa a man.
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What happens?
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Que ocorre?
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Ah, nothing.
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Nada.
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Why not?
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Por que?
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Because the brain has to do it.
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Porque o ten que facer o cerebro.
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So you do it again.
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Así que faino outra vez.
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All right, that's perfect.
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Iso é, perfecto.
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Thank you guys for being such a good sport.
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Grazas aos dous pola vosa colaboración.
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This is what's happening all across the world --
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Isto é o que está pasando por todo o mundo--
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electrophysiology!
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electrofisioloxía!
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We're going to bring on the neuro-revolution.
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Imos conseguir a neurorrevolución.
Grazas.
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Thank you.
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05:49
(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
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