How to control someone else's arm with your brain | Greg Gage

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譯者: Joyce Chen 審譯者: Twisted Meadows
大腦,是個令人驚奇又複雜的器官。
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The brain is an amazing and complex organ.
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And while many people are fascinated by the brain,
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雖然很多人對大腦深深著迷,
但他們其實無法深入的告訴你
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they can't really tell you that much
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about the properties about how the brain works
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大腦運作時的詳細特性。
因為學校教育裡並沒有 教我們神經科學。
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because we don't teach neuroscience in schools.
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And one of the reasons why is that the equipment
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原因之一, 是因為神經科學的儀器
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is so complex and so expensive
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實在太複雜也太昂貴了,
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that it's really only done at major universities and large institutions.
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所以只有在重點大學 和一些大型研究機構裡面才有。
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And so in order to be able to access the brain,
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因此,若想接觸大腦,
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you really need to dedicate your life
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你真的需要投注生命、
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and spend six and a half years as a graduate student
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花上六年半的時間讀研究所
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just to become a neuroscientist to get access to these tools.
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只為了成為神經科學家, 如此才能接觸這些儀器。
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And that's a shame because one out of five of us,
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這樣很可惜, 因為我們平均五個人裡,就有一個
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that's 20 percent of the entire world, will have a neurological disorder.
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患有某種神經方面的失調, 這大約佔了全球人口的 20%。
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And there are zero cures for these diseases.
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目前這些疾病都無法完全治癒。
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And so it seems that what we should be doing
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所以,我們似乎有個要務,
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is reaching back earlier in the eduction process
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我們要設法在早期的教育裡 教導學生神經科學的知識,
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and teaching students about neuroscience so that in the future,
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好讓「腦神經學家」成為 他們未來的人生選項之一。
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they may be thinking about possibly becoming a brain scientist.
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我在讀研究所的時候, 我和我的實驗室夥伴Tim Marzullo決定:
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When I was a graduate student, my lab mate Tim Marzullo and myself,
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decided that what if we took this complex equipment that we have
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我們何不以實驗室裡 一台研究腦部的精密儀器為藍圖,
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for studying the brain and made it simple enough and affordable enough
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把儀器簡化、讓它可以更便宜,
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that anyone that you know, an amateur or a high school student,
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好讓每個人,像是非專業的人、 或高中生,
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could learn and actually participate in the discovery of neuroscience.
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可以學習、甚至參與 神經科學的發現過程?
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And so we did just that.
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因此我們付諸實踐了。
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A few years ago, we started a company called Backyard Brains
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幾年前,我們創立了一間公司, 名為「後院天才」(Backyard Brains)
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and we make DIY neuroscience equipment and I brought some here tonight,
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我們自製了一些神經科學儀器, 今晚也帶了一些過來。
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and I want to do some demonstrations.
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我要做一些展示。
你們想看嗎?
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You guys want to see some?
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So I need a volunteer.
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好,我需要一個志願者。
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So right before -- what is your name? (Applause)
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好,在此之前......妳叫什麼名字? (掌聲)
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Sam Kelly: Sam.
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莎姆:莎姆。
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Greg Gage: All right, Sam, I'm going to record from your brain.
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葛雷格:好的,莎姆, 我現在要錄下妳的腦部訊號。
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Have you had this before?
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妳做過這種事嗎?
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SK: No.
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莎姆:沒有。
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GG: I need you to stick out your arm for science,
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葛雷格:請妳為了科學,伸出手吧,
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roll up your sleeve a bit,
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袖子捲上來一點,
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So what I'm going to do, I'm putting electrodes on your arm,
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好,我現在要做的是, 我要在妳的手臂放上電極。
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and you're probably wondering,
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妳現在可能在想,
你剛剛不是說要錄下我的腦部訊號? 跟手臂有什麼關係?
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I just said I'm going to record from your brain, what am I doing with your arm?
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Well, you have about 80 billion neurons inside your brain right now.
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事實上,妳的腦部大概有八百億個神經元,
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They're sending electrical messages back and forth, and chemical messages.
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它們負責傳遞電子訊號, 以及化學訊號,
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But some of your neurons right here in your motor cortex
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但其中有一些 運動皮質區的神經元,
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are going to send messages down when you move your arm like this.
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會在妳運動手臂時, 送出訊號,
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They're going to go down across your corpus callosum,
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這些訊號從妳的胼胝體傳下來,
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down onto your spinal cord to your lower motor neuron
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經過妳的脊髓, 下達到運動神經元,
再傳到妳這裡的肌肉。
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out to your muscles here,
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而這些電子訊號 會被妳手臂上的電極捕捉到。
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and that electrical discharge is going to be picked up
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by these electrodes right here
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and we're going to be able to listen
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所以我們可以聽到
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to exactly what your brain is going to be doing.
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妳的腦部所發出的指令。
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So I'm going to turn this on for a second.
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好,我現在開機一下。
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Have you ever heard what your brain sounds like?
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妳曾經聽過腦部發出的聲音嗎?
莎姆:沒有。
葛雷格:沒關係,我們試試看。 現在妳手用力。
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SK: No.
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GG: Let's try it out. So go ahead and squeeze your hand.
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02:37
(Rumbling)
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(聲響)
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So what you're listening to,
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所以現在你們聽到的是
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so this is your motor units happening right here.
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妳這裡運動神經元所接收到的訊號。
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Let's take a look at it as well.
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我們也可以看到這些訊號。
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So I'm going to stand over here,
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我現在要站到這裡來,
打開我的應用程式。
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and I'm going to open up our app here.
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好,現在手用力。
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So now I want you to squeeze.
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(Rumbling)
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(聲響)
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So right here, these are the motor units that are happening
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現在看到的這個, 就是運動神經元的訊號,
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from her spinal cord out to her muscle right here,
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訊號是從她的脊髓 傳遞到她這邊的肌肉,
所以當她做動作的時候,
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and as she's doing it,
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妳可以看到其中的 電流活動。
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you're seeing the electrical activity that's happening here.
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你還可以點選其中一個波段來細看。
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You can even click here and try to see one of them.
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所以請繼續用力握。
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So keep doing it really hard.
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好,我們現在停在
妳的腦部裡面其中一個訊號 正要觸發動作的時刻。
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So now we've paused
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on one motor action potential that's happening right now inside of your brain.
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Do you guys want to see some more?
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你們想看多一點嗎?
(掌聲)
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(Applause)
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That's interesting, but let's get it better.
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剛剛很有趣, 不過我們來點更棒的。
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I need one more volunteer.
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我需要另一名志願者。
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What is your name, sir?
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好的。先生,你叫甚麼名字?
米格爾:米格爾。
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Miguel Goncalves: Miguel.
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葛雷格:米格爾,很好。
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GG: Miguel, all right.
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請你站在這裡。
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You're going to stand right here.
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So when you're moving your arm like this,
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好,所以,當妳這樣動妳的手時,
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your brain is sending a signal down to your muscles right here.
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妳的腦會送訊息到 妳這裡的肌肉。
我要請你也移動你的手。
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I want you to move your arm as well.
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So your brain is going to send a signal down to your muscles.
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好,所以你的大腦也會送訊息到你的肌肉。
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And so it turns out that there is a nerve that's right here
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很碰巧的,在這裡, 有一條神經
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that runs up here that innervates these three fingers,
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它會牽動你的 這三根手指,
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and it's close enough to the skin that we might be able
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而這條神經離皮膚非常的近, 所以我們可能可以
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to stimulate that so that what we can do
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直接刺激這條神經。 因此,我們可以
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is copy your brain signals going out to your hand
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複製妳腦部要送到妳手臂的訊號
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and inject it into your hand,
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然後注入他的手臂,
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so that your hand will move when your brain tells your hand to move.
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所以你的手,會在她的大腦命令 她的手運動時,跟著一起運動。
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So in a sense, she will take away your free will
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也就是說,她會奪走你的自由意志,
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and you will no longer have any control over this hand.
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你不再能掌握你自己的這隻手。好嗎?
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You with me?
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你們聽懂了嗎?
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So I just need to hook you up.
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所以我要幫你們連線了。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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So I'm going to find your ulnar nerve,
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我要找一下你的尺骨神經,
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which is probably right around here.
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大概在這裡吧。
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You don't know what you're signing up for
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你上台時不知道我會這樣玩你吧。
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when you come up.
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So now I'm going to move away and we're going to plug it in
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好,現在我要站到一邊去,
啟動我們的「人傳人」的界面。
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to our human-to-human interface over here.
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Okay, so Sam, I want you to squeeze your hand again.
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好的,那麼......莎姆,請妳再握緊妳的手。
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Do it again. Perfect.
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再握一次。好,很好。
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So now I'm going to hook you up over here so that you get the --
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好,我現在要把你跟莎姆連線了, 你將會......
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It's going to feel a little bit weird at first,
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一開始感覺會有點怪,
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this is going to feel like a -- (Laughter)
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感覺會有點像...... (笑聲)
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You know, when you lose your free will, and someone else becomes your agent,
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你知道,如果你失去了自由意志, 而別人反而變成主宰,
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it does feel a bit strange.
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那種感覺真的怪怪的。
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Now I want you to relax your hand.
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現在,請你放鬆你的手。
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Sam, you're with me?
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莎姆,妳有跟上嗎?
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So you're going to squeeze.
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好,請妳手用力。
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I'm not going to turn it on yet, so go ahead and give it a squeeze.
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我現在還沒打開連線, 所以儘量用力。
好,米格爾,你準備好了嗎?
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So now, are you ready, Miguel?
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MG: Ready as I'll ever be.
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米格爾:好了,再好不過。
葛雷格:我現在打開了, 請轉動你的手。
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GG: I've turned it on, so go ahead and turn your hand.
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有感覺到了嗎? 米格爾:沒。
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Do you feel that a little bit? MG: Nope.
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GG: Okay, do it again? MG: A little bit.
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葛雷格:OK,再試試看? 米格爾:有一點。
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GG: A little bit? (Laughter)
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葛雷格:有一點? (笑聲)
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So relax.
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放輕鬆⋯
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So hit it again.
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再試試看。
(笑聲)
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(Laughter)
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05:08
Oh, perfect, perfect.
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噢,太棒了,太棒了。
好,放鬆,再試試看。
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So relax, do it again.
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好了。所以現在⋯⋯
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All right, so right now,
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your brain is controlling your arm and it's also controlling his arm,
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所以現在:妳的腦控制著妳的手臂, 而且也控制著他的手臂,
所以妳再用力一次試試看。
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so go ahead and just do it one more time.
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All right, so it's perfect. (Laughter)
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好了,非常完美。 (笑聲)
所以現在,如果是 由我來控制妳的這隻手呢?
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So now, what would happen if I took over my control of your hand?
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And so, just relax your hand.
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好,妳手放鬆。
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What happens?
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現在怎麼樣?
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Ah, nothing.
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啊~沒反應。
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Why not?
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為什麼?
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Because the brain has to do it.
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因為必須要由腦來控制才有用。
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So you do it again.
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所以再試一次。
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All right, that's perfect.
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好了,很完美。
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Thank you guys for being such a good sport.
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感謝兩位, 讓大家有愉快時光。
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This is what's happening all across the world --
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這是全世界都在發生的事——
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electrophysiology!
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電流生理學!
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We're going to bring on the neuro-revolution.
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我們要準備掀起 神經元革命了。
感謝各位。
05:48
Thank you.
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05:49
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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