How interpreters juggle two languages at once - Ewandro Magalhaes

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Prevodilac: Milenka Okuka Lektor: Mile Živković
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In 1956, during a diplomatic reception in Moscow,
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Godine 1956, tokom diplomatskog prijema u Moskvi,
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Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev told Western Bloc ambassadors,
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sovjetski vođa Nikita Hruščov je rekao amabasadorima Zapadnog bloka:
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"My vas pokhoronim!"
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"Mы вас похороним!"
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His interpreter rendered that into English as,
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Njegov tumač je to preveo na engleski:
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"We will bury you!"
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"Mi ćemo vas sahraniti!"
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This statement sent shockwaves through the Western world,
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Ova izjava je uzburkala zapadni svet,
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heightening the tension between the Soviet Union and the US
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pojačavajući napetost između Sovjetskog Saveza i SAD-a
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who were in the thick of the Cold War.
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koji su bili na vrhuncu Hladnog rata.
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Some believe this incident alone set East/West relations back a decade.
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Neki veruju da je baš ovaj incident
unazadio odnose Istoka i Zapada za deceniju.
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As it turns out, Khrushchev's remark was translated a bit too literally.
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Kako se ispostavilo, primedba Hruščova je prevedena malčice isuviše doslovno.
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Given the context, his words should have been rendered as,
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S obzirom na kontekst, njegove reči je trebalo prevesti kao:
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"We will live to see you buried,"
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"Doživećemo da viidmo vašu sahranu,"
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meaning that Communism would outlast Capitalism,
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u smislu da će komunizam nadživeti kapitalizam,
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a less threatening comment.
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što je bio manje preteći komentar.
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Though the intended meaning was eventually clarified,
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Iako je stvarno značenje vremenom razjašnjeno,
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the initial impact of Khrushchev's apparent words
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prvobitni uticaj doslovnih reči Hruščova
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put the world on a path that could have led to nuclear armageddon.
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je smestio svet na stazu koja je mogla da dovede do nuklearnog armagedona.
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So now, given the complexities of language and cultural exchange,
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Pa sad, imajući u vidu složenost jezika i kulturološke razmene,
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how does this sort of thing not happen all the time?
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kako se ovakve stvari ne dešavaju stalno?
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Much of the answer lies with the skill and training of interpreters
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Odgovor najvećim delom počiva u veštini i obuci tumača
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to overcome language barriers.
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u prevazilaženju jezičkih barijera.
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For most of history, interpretation was mainly done consecutively,
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Većim delom istorije, prevođenje je uglavnom rađeno konsekutivno,
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with speakers and interpreters making pauses to allow each other to speak.
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gde govornici i prevodioci prave pauze da bi dozvolili jedni drugima da govore.
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But after the advent of radio technology,
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No pojavom radijske tehnologije,
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a new simultaneous interpretations system was developed in the wake of World War II.
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novi sistem simultanog prevođenja je razvijen početkom Drugog svetskog rata.
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In the simultaneous mode
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U simultanom prevođenju
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interpreters instantaneously translate a speaker's words
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prevodioci momentalno prevode reči govornika
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into a microphone while he speaks.
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u mikrofon dok on govori.
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Without pauses, those in the audience can choose the language
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Bez pauza, publika može da odabere jezik
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in which they want to follow.
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na kom želi da prati govor.
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On the surface, it all looks seamless,
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Na površini sve to izgleda besprekorno,
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but behind the scenes,
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ali iza kulisa,
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human interpreters work incessantly
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ljudski tumači rade neprekidno
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to ensure every idea gets across as intended.
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da bi se postarali da se svaka ideja prenese pravilno.
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And that is no easy task.
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A to nije lak zadatak.
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It takes about two years of training for already fluent bilingual professionals
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Potrebne su oko dve godine obuke za profesionalce koji tečno govore dva jezika
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to expand their vocabulary and master the skills necessary
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da bi proširili svoj rečnik i savladali veštine neophodne
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to become a conference interpreter.
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da bi postali tumači na konferencijama.
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To get used to the unnatural task of speaking while they listen,
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Kako bi se navikli na neprirodan zadatak govorenja dok slušaju,
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students shadow speakers
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učenici pažljivo prate govornike
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and repeat their every word exactly as heard in the same language.
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i ponavljaju svaku reč baš kao što je čuju na datom jeziku.
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In time, they begin to paraphrase what is said,
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Vremenom počinju da parafraziraju izrečeno,
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making stylistic adjustments as they go.
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praveći stilska podešavanja u hodu.
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At some point, a second language is introduced.
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U nekom momentu im se uvodi drugi jezik.
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Practicing in this way creates new neural pathways in the interpreter's brain,
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Ovakvo vežbanje stvara nove nervne veze u mozgu tumača,
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and the constant effort of reformulation gradually becomes second nature.
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a stalni napor preformulisanja vremenom postaje nova priroda.
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Over time and through much hard work,
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Vremenom, i uz mnogo vrednog rada,
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the interpreter masters a vast array of tricks to keep up with speed,
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tumač savladava veliko mnoštvo trikova da ne bi zaostajao,
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deal with challenging terminology,
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bavi se teškom terminologijom
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and handle a multitude of foreign accents.
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i savladava mnoštvo stranih naglasaka.
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They may resort to acronyms to shorten long names,
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Mogu da pribegavaju akronimima kako bi skratili duga imena,
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choose generic terms over specific,
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da izaberu opšte termine nasuprot specifičnih
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or refer to slides and other visual aides.
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ili da koriste slajdove i druge vizuelne pomoći.
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They can even leave a term in the original language,
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Mogu čak i da ostave termin na prvobitnom jeziku,
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while they search for the most accurate equivalent.
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dok traže najadekvatnijeg ekvivalenta.
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Interpreters are also skilled at keeping aplomb in the face of chaos.
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Tumači su takođe vešti u održavanju samopouzdanja usred haosa.
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Remember, they have no control over who is going to say what,
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Setite se da oni nemaju kontrolu nad tim ko će šta reći
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or how articulate the speaker will sound.
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ili koliko će artikulisano da zvuči govornik.
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A curveball can be thrown at any time.
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Bilo kad može da im dopadne vruć krompir.
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Also, they often perform to thousands of people
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Takođe, često nastupaju pred hiljadama ljudi
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and in very intimidating settings,
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i u veoma zastrašujućim okolnostima,
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like the UN General Assembly.
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poput Generalne skupštine UN-a.
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To keep their emotions in check,
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Da bi kontrolisali svoje emocije,
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they carefully prepare for an assignment,
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pažljivo se pripremaju za zadatak,
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building glossaries in advance,
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unapred praveći rečnike,
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reading voraciously about the subject matter,
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čitajući halapljivo o glavnoj temi
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and reviewing previous talks on the topic.
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i pregledajući prethodne govore o toj temi.
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Finally, interpreters work in pairs.
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Konačno, tumači rade u parovima.
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While one colleague is busy translating incoming speeches in real time,
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Dok je jedan kolega zauzet prevođenjem nastupajućih govora u realnom vremenu,
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the other gives support by locating documents,
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drugi mu pruža podršku locirajući dokumenta,
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looking up words,
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pretražujući reči,
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and tracking down pertinent information.
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i pronalazeći važne informacije.
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Because simultaneous interpretation requires intense concentration,
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Kako simultano prevođenje zahteva intenzivnu koncentraciju,
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every 30 minutes, the pair switches roles.
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svakih 30 minuta par menja uloge.
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Success is heavily dependent on skillful collaboration.
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Uspeh je usko povezan s veštinom saradnje.
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Language is complex,
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Jezik je složen
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and when abstract or nuanced concepts get lost in translation,
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i kad se apstraktni i istančani pojmovi izgube u prevodu,
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the consequences may be catastrophic.
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posledice mogu da budu katastrofalne.
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As Margaret Atwood famously noted, "War is what happens when language fails."
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Kako je Margaret Atvud sjajno primetila: "Rat nastaje kad jezik omane."
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Conference interpreters of all people are aware of that
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Niko nije svestan toga koliko tumači na konferencijama
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and work diligently behind the scenes to make sure it never does.
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i oni marljivo rade iza kulisa da bi se postarali da se to nikad ne desi.
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