Never, ever give up | Diana Nyad

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翻译人员: Peipei Xiang 校对人员: Yen Yen Choo
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It's the fifth time I stand on this shore,
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这是我第五次站在这个海岸,
00:21
the Cuban shore,
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古巴海岸,
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looking out at that distant horizon,
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望着远处的地平线,
00:28
believing, again,
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我再次相信
00:31
that I'm going to make it all the way
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我可以
穿越这一片广阔、
00:34
across that vast, dangerous wilderness of an ocean.
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危险的海洋荒野。
00:39
Not only have I tried four times,
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不仅仅是我已经尝试了四次,
00:41
but the greatest swimmers in the world have been trying since 1950,
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世界上其他伟大的游泳健将
自从1950年以来就开始尝试了,
00:45
and it's still never been done.
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而至今还没有人可以做到。
00:49
The team is proud of our four attempts.
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我们的团队为前四次的尝试感到引以为豪。
00:53
It's an expedition of some 30 people.
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它是大约30人组成的远征。
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Bonnie is my best friend and head handler,
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邦妮是我最好的朋友兼领队,
01:00
who somehow summons will,
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不知如何竟召唤起了我的勇气,
那最后一滴我以为已经消失了的勇气,
01:03
that last drop of will within me, when I think it's gone,
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01:06
after many, many hours and days out there.
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在经历过无数个外面的日日夜夜后。
01:10
The shark experts are the best in the world --
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我们有着全世界最好的鲨鱼专家,
01:12
large predators below.
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海底深处有大型的敌人。
01:16
The box jellyfish, the deadliest venom in all of the ocean,
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有箱型水母, 海洋中最致命的毒液,
在这片海洋,这片水域里
01:21
is in these waters,
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我前一次尝试的时候差点因此死亡。
01:23
and I have come close to dying from them on a previous attempt.
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我前一次的尝试差点因此死亡。
这些条件本身,
01:28
The conditions themselves,
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01:30
besides the sheer distance of over 100 miles in the open ocean --
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除了浩瀚海洋中100多英里的距离,
除了浩瀚海洋中100多英里的距离,
01:35
the currents and whirling eddies and the Gulf Stream itself,
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还有洋流和旋转的涡流,
和墨西哥湾流本身,是地球上
01:39
the most unpredictable of all of the planet Earth.
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最不可预知的。
01:45
And by the way -- it's amusing to me
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顺便说一句,我觉得很可笑的是
01:49
that journalists and people, before these attempts, often ask me,
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记者和一些人在这些尝试之前
经常问我:
01:54
"Well, are you going to go with any boats or any people or anything?"
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"那…你有带着任何船只
或任何人或什么东西一起去吗?”
01:57
(Laughter)
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01:59
And I'm thinking, what are they imagining?
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而我在想,他们到底都在想什么?
02:01
That I'll just sort of do some celestial navigation --
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以为我会运用什么天文导航
02:04
(Laughter)
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02:05
And carry a bowie knife in my mouth,
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嘴里叼着一把猎刀,
02:09
and I'll hunt fish and skin them alive and eat them,
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亲自捕鱼,现场扒皮并食用吗?
02:12
and maybe drag a desalinization plant behind me for fresh water.
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还是也许身后还拖着一个海水淡化装置
来换取淡水
02:17
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:22
Yes, I have a team.
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是的,我有一个团队。(笑声)
02:23
(Laughter)
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这个团队的人都是专家,他们非常勇敢,
02:26
And the team is expert,
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02:28
and the team is courageous,
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02:30
and brimming with innovation and scientific discovery,
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而且溢满了创新力
与科学发现,
02:34
as is true of any major expedition on the planet.
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地球上任何大型的远征都是这样的。
我们踏上了一个旅途。
02:40
And we've been on a journey.
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02:42
And the debate has raged, hasn't it,
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对此人们一直有激烈的争论,
02:45
since the Greeks,
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自希腊人以来
02:46
of isn't it what it's all about?
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难道不都是关于旅途吗?
02:49
Isn't life about the journey, not really the destination?
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难道生活不就是关于旅途,
而不是目的地么?
02:54
And here we've been on this journey,
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而我们一直都在这个旅途中,
事实是,这一路刺激极了。
02:56
and the truth is, it's been thrilling.
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02:58
We haven't reached that other shore,
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我们还没到达彼岸,
然而,我们有强烈的自豪感和决心,
03:00
and still, our sense of pride and commitment,
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03:03
unwavering commitment.
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坚定不移的决心。
我60岁的时候,那个梦还活着,
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When I turned 60, the dream was still alive
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03:10
from having tried this in my 20s -- dreamed it and imagined it.
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从20多岁时候的尝试,
到后来一直梦想着,想象着。
我想,如今地球上最出名的水域
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The most famous body of water on the Earth today, I imagine,
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就是古巴到佛罗里达一带。
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Cuba to Florida.
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03:22
And it was deep. It was deep in my soul.
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它很深,深到我的灵魂深处。
我60岁的时候,
03:27
When I turned 60,
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it wasn't so much about the athletic accomplishment,
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它不再是关于那些竞技成就,
不是关于"我想要第一名"的自我。
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it wasn't the ego of "I want to be the first."
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03:35
That's always there and it's undeniable.
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无可否认地,那个自我一直都在
但它更深。是关于生命还剩下多少时间?
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But it was deeper.
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03:39
It was "how much life is there left?"
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03:41
Let's face it -- we're all on a one-way street, aren't we?
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我们承认吧。我们都在单行道上,不是吗?
那我们应该怎么做呢?
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And what are we going to do?
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03:46
What are we going to do as we go forward, to have no regrets looking back?
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我们应该做些什么才能在前进的路上
回头看时没有遗憾?
过去这一年训练的时候,
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And all this past year in training,
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03:54
I had that Teddy Roosevelt quote
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西奥多·罗斯福的一句话
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to paraphrase it, floating around in my brain.
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一直在我的脑海回荡,
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It says, "You go ahead.
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大致是:”你尽管,
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You go ahead and sit back in your comfortable chair
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你尽管坐在你那舒服的椅子上,
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and you be the critic, you be the observer,
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你做个评论家,你做个观察员,
04:08
while the brave one gets in the ring and engages
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同时那个勇敢的人走上拳击台开始比赛,
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and gets bloody and gets dirty and fails over and over and over again,
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血流了下来,有点脏,他倒了下去,
一次又一次,
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but yet isn't afraid and isn't timid and lives life in a bold way."
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但是他不害怕不胆怯,
用一种勇敢的方式去生活。”
04:22
And so of course I want to make it across.
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所以当然我想要跨越这一湾水。
04:25
It is the goal, and I should be so shallow to say that this year,
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这是目标,我也坦率地跟大家说
今年,目的地尝到的滋味
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the destination was even sweeter than the journey.
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比旅途更甜
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)(掌声)
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(Applause)
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04:39
But the journey itself was worthwhile taking.
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但旅途本身是值得的。
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And at this point, by this summer,
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这个时候,今年夏天,
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everybody -- scientists, sports scientists,
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每个人——科学家、 运动科学家、
耐力专家、神经专家,
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endurance experts, neurologists,
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04:53
my own team, Bonnie --
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我自己的团队,邦妮 ——
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said it's impossible.
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都说这是不可能的。
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It just simply can't be done, and Bonnie said to me,
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这是肯定做不到的。这时邦妮对我说,
"但是如果你真的要踏上这个旅途,
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"But if you're going to take the journey,
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我会从头到尾看着你,
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I'm going to see you through to the end of it,
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所以我会在的。“
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so I'll be there."
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And now we're there.
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而我们就去了。
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As we're looking out, kind of a surreal moment
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启程之前,我们一眼望去,感觉一切都是那么地不真实,
在划出去的前一刻
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before the first stroke,
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standing on the rocks at Marina Hemingway,
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我们站在海明威码头的岩石上,
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the Cuban flag is flying above,
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古巴旗帜在上空飘扬,
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all my team is out in their boats, hands up in the air,
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我的团队在他们的船上,
手高高举起并说着:“我们在这里。我们会为你加油。”
05:25
"We're here!
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05:27
We're here for you!"
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邦妮和我相互对望了一眼,我们说:
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Bonnie and I look at each other and say,
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今年,我们的口头禅是——
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this year, the mantra is -- and I've been using it in training --
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我在训练的时候也一直用它——
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Find a way.
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找到出路。
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You have a dream
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你有一个梦想,
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and you have obstacles in front of you, as we all do.
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你的前方有障碍,我们都一样。
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None of us ever get through this life
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没有一个人可以
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without heartache,
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不经历任何心痛、
任何动荡地走完人生,
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without turmoil,
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and if you believe and you have faith
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如果你相信,如果你有任何信仰,
你可以被打倒再重新站起来,
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and you can get knocked down and get back up again
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and you believe in perseverance
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你相信毅力
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as a great human quality,
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是人类最伟大的优点,
你会找到你的出路。邦妮抓住我的肩膀,
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you find your way.
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06:07
And Bonnie grabbed my shoulders,
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她说:“让我们找到去佛罗里达的路吧。”
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and she said, "Let's find our way to Florida."
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06:13
And we started, and for the next 53 hours,
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接着我们出发了,接下来的53个小时
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it was an intense, unforgettable life experience.
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给我们带来了刺激的、令人难忘的人生经历。
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The highs were high, the awe --
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高处很高,还有敬畏,
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I'm not a religious person, but I'll tell you,
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我不是一个信教的人,但是我要告诉你的是,
身处在墨西哥湾流的湛蓝之中,
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to be in the azure blue of the Gulf Stream
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06:29
as if, as you're breathing,
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你一边呼吸,
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you're looking down miles and miles and miles,
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一边看着前方无尽的一片,
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to feel the majesty of this blue planet we live on --
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感受到我们生活在的这个蓝色星球的雄伟,
真的让人叹为观止。
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it's awe-inspiring.
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我有一个大概85首歌的播放列表,
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I have a playlist of about 85 songs,
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and especially in the middle of the night ...
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特别是在半夜的时候,
那个晚上,因为我们没有灯光——
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That night, because we use no lights -- lights attract jellyfish,
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灯光会引来水母、鲨鱼,
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lights attract sharks,
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灯光会引来那些鲨鱼喜欢的饵料鱼,
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lights attract baitfish that attract sharks,
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so we go in the pitch black of the night.
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所以我们就在一片漆黑的黑夜中行进。
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You've never seen black this black.
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你从来没有见过这种黑暗。
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You can't see the front of your hand,
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你看不见自己眼前的手,
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and the people on the boat, Bonnie and my team on the boat --
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和船上的人,
邦妮的我的团队,
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they just hear the slapping of the arms,
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他们透过听到手臂拍打的声音,
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and they know where I am,
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才知道我在哪里,
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because there's no visual at all.
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因为用肉眼是看不见的。
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And I'm out there kind of tripping out on my little playlist.
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而我就在那儿沉浸在
我的音乐里
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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I've got tight rubber caps, I don't hear a thing.
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我戴着一个很紧的橡胶帽,
所以我什么也听不见。
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I've got goggles and I'm turning my head 50 times a minute,
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我戴着泳镜, 一分钟内转50次头
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and I'm singing ...
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而我在唱,
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(Singing) Imagine there's no heaven
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♪想象没有天堂♪
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(Laughter)
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07:31
doo doo doo doo doo
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♪doo doo doo doo doo♪
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It's easy if you try
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♪这不难,如果你尝试 ♪
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doo doo doo doo doo
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♪doo doo doo doo doo♪
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And I can sing that song a thousand times in a row.
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这个歌我可以连续唱上一千遍。
(笑声)
07:40
(Laughter)
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07:42
Now there's a talent unto itself.
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我觉得这本身也是一种才能。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)(掌声)
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(Applause)
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And each time I get done with,
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每一次到结尾的时候,
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(Singing) Oh, you may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one
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♪ 你可能说我是一个梦想家,但我不是唯一的 ♪
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222.
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222。
08:01
(Singing) Imagine there's no heaven
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♪想象没有天堂♪
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(Laughter)
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当我唱完一千遍的时候,
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And when I get through the end
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of a thousand of John Lennon's "Imagine,"
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约翰列农的《想象》
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I have swum nine hours and 45 minutes ...
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我已经游了9个小时45分钟,
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exactly.
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丝毫不差。
08:13
(Laughter)
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08:16
And then there are the crises.
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当然也有危机出现时候,当然有。
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Of course there are.
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08:20
And the vomiting starts, the seawater -- you're not well.
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我开始呕吐,
还有海水,你感觉不舒服,
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You're wearing a jellyfish mask for the ultimate protection.
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你戴着高效保护的水母面具。
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It's difficult to swim in.
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带着它更难游泳
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It's causing abrasions on the inside of the mouth,
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导致你嘴巴里面出现磨损,
可是你不會再被水母觸角螫到
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but the tentacles can't get you.
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08:34
And the hypothermia sets in.
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接着身体出现低温。
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The water's 85 degrees, and yet you're losing weight
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水温是85华氏度(约29摄氏度), 你的体重开始减轻
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and using calories.
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和消耗热量,当你慢慢靠近
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And as you come over toward the side of the boat --
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船只边缘,不能触碰,
08:44
not allowed to touch it, not allowed to get out,
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不能放弃,
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but Bonnie and her team hand me nutrition
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但是邦妮和团队递给我营养物质,
并问我怎么样,是否一切都好,
08:49
and ask me how I'm doing, am I all right.
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08:52
I am seeing the Taj Mahal --
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而我却看到了泰姬陵。
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(Laughter)
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08:56
Over here.
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08:57
I'm in a very different state --
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我已经进入了一个非常不同的境界,
09:01
(Laughter)
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And I'm thinking, "Wow!
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我在想,天那,我从来没有想过
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I never thought I'd be running into the Taj Mahal out here.
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我会在这里看到泰姬陵。
09:09
It's gorgeous!
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简直太美了。
09:11
I mean, how long did it take them to build that?
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这,他们得用了多长时间才造出来啊?
简直,简直——哇!(笑声)
09:14
It's just ...
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09:16
So, uh -- wooo -- you know?
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09:18
(Laughter)
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09:22
We kind of have a cardinal rule
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我们有一个基本规则,
09:24
that I'm never told how far it is, because we don't know how far it is.
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就是没有人会告诉我已经游了多远,
因为我们不知道。
从这里到那里会发生什么?
09:28
What's going to happen to you between this point and that point?
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从这里到那里会发生什么?
天气、洋流会怎么样?
09:31
What's going to happen to the weather and the currents
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还有,上帝保佑,
09:33
and, God forbid, you're stung,
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09:35
when you don't think you could be stung in all this armor.
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當你以為在這身裝置下不會很安全,可是你就是被螫了
邦妮做了一个决定,
09:40
Bonnie made a decision coming into that third morning
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在第三个早上
09:44
that I was suffering,
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那时我很痛苦,
09:46
and I was hanging on by a thread.
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我的生命悬在一线之间,
09:50
And she said, "Come here,"
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她说:”过来,“
09:51
and I came close to the boat, and she said,
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我游到船边,她说,
”你看,你看那边,“
09:53
"Look, look out there."
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我看到了灯光,因为白天要比晚上好,
09:55
And I saw light,
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09:56
because the day is easier than the night,
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我以为我们已经进入白天了,
09:58
and I thought we were coming into day.
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我看到一束白光,
10:00
I saw a stream of white light along the horizon,
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沿着地平线
10:03
and I said, "It's going to be morning soon."
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我说:”白天很快就到了。“
她说:”不,那是西礁岛的灯光。”
10:06
And she said, "No, those are the lights of Key West."
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10:11
It was 15 more hours,
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还需要15个小时,
10:13
which for most swimmers would be a long time.
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这对大部分游泳的人都是一段很长的时间。
10:15
(Laughter)
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(笑声)(掌声)
10:18
(Applause)
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10:22
You have no idea how many 15-hour training swims I had done.
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你们不知道我经历过多少15个小时的游泳训练。
10:26
So here we go, and I somehow, without a decision,
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所以我们又继续往前, 而我不知道怎么的,没有任何决定,
10:30
went into no counting of strokes
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进入了不数划了多少下,
10:32
and no singing
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不唱歌,不引用斯蒂芬·霍金
10:34
and no quoting Stephen Hawking on the parameters of the universe.
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及其宇宙参数,
10:39
I just went into thinking about this dream, and why and how.
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我只是开始想我的这个梦,
为什么,如何。
我说过,我60岁的时候,
10:46
As I said, when I turned 60,
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10:48
it wasn't about that concrete "Can you do it?"
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它不再是关于那个具体的“你是否可以做到”,
10:52
That's the everyday machinations.
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那是每天的策划,
10:55
That's the discipline, and it's the preparation,
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那是自我纪律,事前准备,
而这其中有自豪。
10:58
and there's a pride in that.
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10:59
But I decided to think, as I went along,
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但是随着前进,我决定开始思考
11:04
about -- you know, the phrase usually is, "reaching for the stars."
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通常人们是说,追逐星星,
11:08
And in my case, it's reaching for the horizon.
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而我的情况,则是追逐地平线。
11:11
And when you reach for the horizon,
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而当你到达地平线的时候,
11:13
as I've proven, you may not get there.
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当然你也可能到达不了,
11:16
But what a tremendous build of character and spirit
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但是你建立了多么惊人的
11:22
that you lay down;
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人类特质和精神
11:24
what a foundation you lay down in reaching for those horizons.
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在你追逐地平线的时候,
你搭下了坚实的地基。
11:29
And now, the shore is coming.
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现在慢慢接近海岸了,
11:32
And there's just a little part of me that's sad.
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我内心有一小部分开始难过。
11:35
The epic journey is going to be over.
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这个史诗般的旅途就要结束了。
11:37
So many people come up to me now and say,
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现在很多人走上前问我,“
11:39
"What's next?"
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“接下来你会做什么?我们爱死了。
11:41
(Laughter)
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11:42
"We love that!"
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11:43
(Laughter)
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那个电脑上的小跟踪器?
11:45
"That little tracker on the computer?
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11:46
When are you going to do the next one?
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你什么时候会进行下一次冒险? 我们迫不及待地想看你的下一次冒险。”
11:48
We can't wait to follow the next one."
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他们只花了53个小时在那里,
11:50
Well, they were just there for 53 hours,
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11:52
and I was there for years.
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而我花了数年的时间。
11:55
And so there won't be another epic journey in the ocean.
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所以不会再有这样的海上旅途了。
11:58
But the point is, and the point was,
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但是重点是,
12:02
that every day of our lives is epic.
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我们生活的每一天都是壮丽的,
12:07
And I'll tell you, when I walked up onto that beach,
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我要告诉你,当我走上那片海滩的时候,
12:09
staggered up onto that beach ...
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踉跄着走上那片海滩,
12:11
I had so many times, in a very puffed-up ego way,
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我曾经很多次
自命不凡地
12:18
rehearsed what I would say ...
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想象过我会在海滩上说什么。
12:20
(Laughter)
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12:22
on the beach.
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当邦妮以为
12:23
When Bonnie thought the back of my throat was swelling up,
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我的喉部肿了,
12:26
she brought the medical team over to our boat
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她把医疗团队带到了我们的船上,
12:28
to say, "She's really beginning to have trouble breathing;
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告诉他们
我呼吸有困难。
12:32
another 12, 24 hours in the saltwater ..." --
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在盐水里待了12,14个小时后,
12:35
the whole thing -- I just thought, in my hallucinatory moment,
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整件事情,我以为
在我幻想着的时候,我到了气管切开术。
12:39
that I heard the word "tracheotomy."
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12:42
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
邦妮对医生说:
12:44
Bonnie said to the doctor, "I'm not worried about her not breathing.
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“我不担心她不能呼吸。
如果她到达海岸的时候不能说话,
12:48
If she can't talk when she gets to the shore,
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她会火冒三丈的。”
12:50
she's going to be pissed off."
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12:51
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
12:57
But the truth is, all those orations that I had practiced,
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但事实是,那些我
练习了无数次的演说,
13:01
just to get myself through some training swims as motivation --
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只为了激励自己训练的演说,
13:04
it wasn't like that.
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其实不是那样的。
13:06
It was a very real moment,
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那是真实的一刻,
13:08
with that crowd, with my team.
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有人群,有我的团队。
13:11
We did it. I didn't do it. We did it.
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我们做到了。不是我一个人,我们做到了。
13:13
And we'll never forget it. It'll always be part of us.
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我们永远不会忘记。这会永远是我们的一部分。
13:17
The three things I did sort of blurt out when we got there, was first:
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当我们到达的时候,我脱口而出的说了三件事,
第一就是:”永远、永远不要放弃。“
13:21
Never, ever give up.
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13:24
I live it.
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我经历过了。苏格拉底的那句话今天怎么说来着?
13:25
What's the phrase from today from Socrates?
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13:28
Audience: To be is to do.
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想成為什麼就要行動
13:30
Diana Nyad: To be is to do.
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13:31
So I don't stand up and say, "Don't ever give up."
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所以我是只站起来说永远不要放弃。
13:34
I didn't give up.
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我没有放弃,在这些话语背后是有行动的。
13:36
There was action behind these words.
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13:38
The second is:
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第二,”你可以在任何年纪追求你的梦想,
13:40
You can chase your dreams at any age; you're never too old.
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你永远不会太老。“
13:43
Sixty-four; a thing no one, at any age, any gender, could ever do
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64岁,没有人在这个年纪,不管男女,
可以做,做到了,
13:48
has done it.
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我没有丝毫怀疑
13:49
And there's no doubt in my mind
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今天我正处于我生命的顶峰。
13:51
that I am at the prime of my life today.
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13:53
(Applause)
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(掌声)
13:56
Yeah.
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是的。
13:57
(Applause)
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14:02
Thank you.
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谢谢。
我在那个海滩上说的第三个东西是:
14:04
And the third thing I said on that beach was,
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14:06
it looks like the most solitary endeavor in the world,
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"它看起来像世界上最孤独的努力,
14:08
and in many ways, of course, it is.
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在许多方面,确实如此。
但在其他方面,最重要的方面,
14:11
And in other ways, and the most important ways,
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14:14
it's a team.
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这是一个团队,如果你认为我很厉害,
14:15
And if you think I'm a badass, you want to meet Bonnie.
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你应该见见邦妮"。
14:18
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
14:20
Bonnie, where are you?
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邦妮,你在哪里?
14:22
Where are you?
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你在哪里?
14:25
There's Bonnie Stoll.
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邦妮·斯托尔在那儿。(掌声)
14:26
(Applause)
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我的伙伴。
14:29
My buddy.
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14:30
(Applause)
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14:33
The Henry David Thoreau quote goes,
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亨利·戴维·梭罗有句名言,
14:35
"When you achieve your dreams, it's not so much what you get
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当你实现你的梦想的时候,关键并不是你得到了什么,
而是在最求的过程中你变成了什么样的人。
14:39
as who you have become in achieving them."
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14:41
And yeah, I stand before you now.
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是的,现在我站在你们面前,
14:43
In the three months since that swim ended,
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那场游泳结束已经三个月了,
14:45
I've sat down with Oprah,
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我和奥普拉谈过,
14:47
and I've been in President Obama's Oval Office;
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我去过奧巴马总统的椭圆形办公室。
14:51
I've been invited to speak in front of esteemed groups
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我被受邀给像你们这样受人尊敬的人群演讲。
14:54
such as yourselves;
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我签了一个出书的合同。
14:55
I've signed a wonderful major book contract.
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14:57
All of that's great, and I don't denigrate it.
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这些都很好,我不会贬低它。
15:00
I'm proud of it all, but the truth is,
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我很自豪这一切,但事实是,
我可以挺起腰杆走路,因为我是那勇敢、
15:02
I'm walking around tall
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15:03
because I am that bold, fearless person, and I will be, every day,
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无畏的人,而我接下来每一天也都会是,
15:09
until it's time for these days to be done.
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直到再无时间可剩。
15:13
Thank you very much and enjoy the conference.
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谢谢大家。享受会议!
15:15
Thank you. Thank you!
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谢谢。谢谢。谢谢。(掌声)
15:17
(Applause)
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15:20
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! Thank you.
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谢谢。谢谢。谢谢。谢谢。
谢谢。
15:24
(Applause)
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找出你的路 !(掌声)
15:27
Find a way!
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15:28
(Applause)
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