Why work doesn't happen at work | Jason Fried

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我要来谈一谈工作这件事,
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So I'm going to talk about work;
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specifically, why people can't seem to get work done at work,
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主要是关于大家在上班时
为什么不能完成相应的工作这件事,
00:21
which is a problem we all kind of have.
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这种情况我们大家都遇到过。
00:24
But let's sort of start at the beginning.
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我们就从最开始的讲起。
00:26
So, we have companies and non-profits and charities
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我们有很多的公司、非营利性企业和慈善机构
00:29
and all these groups that have employees or volunteers of some sort.
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等等所有的这些企业团体
都有员工
或者是志愿者之类的。
00:35
And they expect these people who work for them
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而团体的老板们总希望员工们
都能好好工作。
00:39
to do great work --
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00:40
I would hope, at least.
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至少,我是这样认为的。
00:42
At least good work, hopefully, at least it's good work --
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他们希望员工们努力工作,做出优秀的成绩,
00:44
hopefully great work.
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希望一切都好。
00:46
And so what they typically do is they decide
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因此,他们往往要求
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that all these people need to come together in one place to do that work.
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所有的员工都必须聚集到同一个地方
来展开工作。
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So a company, or a charity, or an organization of any kind,
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所以不管是在公司,慈善机构还是各大组织
00:55
unless you're working in Africa, if you're really lucky to do that --
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除非你足够的幸运,你是在非洲工作,
那么大多数的人都需要
00:59
most people have to go to an office every day.
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每天到办公室去工作。
01:01
And so these companies,
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于是,各个公司
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they build offices.
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就建造了办公楼。
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They go out and they buy a building, or they rent a building,
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他们或买或是租用办公大楼,
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or they lease some space,
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腾出一些空间
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and they fill this space with stuff.
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用来放满各种东西。
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They fill it with tables, or desks,
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办公桌,书桌,
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chairs, computer equipment,
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椅子,电脑设备,
软件,
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software, Internet access,
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网络连接器,
01:22
maybe a fridge, maybe a few other things,
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也许还有冰箱等其他一些东西,
01:25
and they expect their employees, or their volunteers,
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他们还要求员工们,或者志愿者们,
每天都到这指定的地方,好好工作。
01:28
to come to that location every day to do great work.
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01:30
It seems like it's perfectly reasonable to ask that.
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这看起来非常的合理。
01:33
However, if you actually talk to people
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但是,如果你接触这些员工
或是问问你自己,
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and even question yourself, and you ask yourself,
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你问你自己:
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where do you really want to go when you really need to get something done?
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当你真想把事情做好的时候,你真真会去哪里工作?
01:42
You'll find out that people don't say what businesses think they would say.
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你会发现大家的回答
都不会是公司老板们所想的。
01:46
If you ask people the question:
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如果你询问别人:他们需要工作的时候
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Where do you need to go when you need to get something done?
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他们真真想去哪里?
01:50
Typically, you get three different kinds of answers.
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一般来说,你会得到三种不同的回答。
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One is kind of a place or a location or a room.
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一种回答是到某个地方或者是房间。
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Another one is a moving object,
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另外一种回答是移动的物体。
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and a third is a time.
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还有第三种答案工作的时间。
01:59
So here are some examples.
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我在这里举些例子。
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I've been asking people this question for about 10 years:
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当我询问大家──这个问题我已经问了10年了──
02:04
"Where do you go when you really need to get something done?"
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我问他们:“当你想做些事情的时候,你一般会想去哪里做。”
我听到的答案有诸如门廊,桌前,
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I'll hear things like, the porch, the deck, the kitchen.
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厨房。
02:11
I'll hear things like an extra room in the house,
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我也会听到如房间里额外的小房间,
储物室,
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the basement,
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02:15
the coffee shop, the library.
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咖啡馆,图书馆。
02:18
And then you'll hear things like the train,
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此外,你还会听到火车,
02:21
a plane, a car -- so, the commute.
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飞机,汽车这种行程的回答。
02:24
And then you'll hear people say,
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最后,你会听到大家说,
02:26
"Well, it doesn't really matter where I am,
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“恩,其实在哪里工作并不重要,
02:28
as long as it's early in the morning or late at night or on the weekends."
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只要是在清晨,午夜或是周末,我办公效率就好。”
你会发现,大家几乎不会提到办公室。
02:32
You almost never hear someone say, "The office."
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但是公司企业把所有的钱都用于办公室的建造,
02:35
But businesses are spending all this money on this place called the office,
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并规定员工每天到办公室工作,
02:38
and they're making people go to it all the time,
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然而,大家在办公室里几乎不怎么工作。
02:40
yet people don't do work in the office.
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这意味着什么?
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What is that about?
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02:44
(Laughter)
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为什么会这样?
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Why is that? Why is that happening?
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原因又是什么呢?
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And what you find out is,
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如果你深入的分析一下,你就会发现原因,
02:50
if you dig a little bit deeper, you find out that people --
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你发现大家,
事实情况就是这样发生的--
02:54
this is what happens:
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02:55
People go to work,
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大家去上班,
02:57
and they're basically trading in their work day
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基本上工作日的各个时间段
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for a series of "work moments" -- that's what happens at the office.
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都是以工作瞬间来计算。
这就是办公室的情况。
03:03
You don't have a work day anymore. You have work moments.
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你工作已经不是按“整工作日”算,而是被拆分成“工作瞬间”。
这就好比当你走过办公室的前门,
03:06
It's like the front door of the office is like a Cuisinart,
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03:08
and you walk in and your day is shredded to bits,
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一跨入办公室,你的工作日就被分成一段段的瞬间。
因为你这边忙15分钟,那边忙30分钟,
03:11
because you have 15 minutes here, 30 minutes there,
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03:13
and something else happens, you're pulled off your work,
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然后突发什么事的时候,你还得分神去处理;
你跑去做别的事之后,再工作个20分钟,就是午餐时间了。
03:16
then you have 20 minutes, then it's lunch, then you have something else to do ...
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然后你就又有别的事要做了,
03:20
Then you've got 15 minutes, and someone pulls you aside and asks you a question,
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你刚专心15分钟后,又有人跑来问你问题。
当你回过神来的时候,已经是下班时间5点了,
03:24
and before you know it, it's 5 p.m.,
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03:26
and you look back on the day,
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当你回顾这一天,
03:28
and you realize that you didn't get anything done.
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就会发现你根本什么都没有做。
我想我们都应该有过这种经历。
03:31
We've all been through this.
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03:32
We probably went through it yesterday or the day before, or the day before that.
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也许昨天就是这样度过的,
或者是前天,大前天。
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You look back on your day,
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每天回顾,发现什么事都没做。
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and you're like, "I got nothing done today.
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03:39
I was at work. I sat at my desk. I used my expensive computer.
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在应该工作的时间里,
我坐在书桌前,用着昂贵的电脑,
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I used the software they told me to use.
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用着他们叫我用的软件,
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I went to these meetings I was asked to go to.
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参见各种上头要求参加的会议。
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I did these conference calls. I did all this stuff.
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我打电话会议,做各种杂事。
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But I didn't actually do anything.
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但事实上,我什么都没有做。
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I just did tasks.
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我只是做些“琐事”而已。
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I didn't actually get meaningful work done."
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我几乎没做什么有意义的工作。
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And what you find is that, especially with creative people --
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同时,你会发现,尤其是当你跟一些有创造力的人在一起的时候,
04:01
designers, programmers, writers, engineers, thinkers --
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比如设计师,工程师,
作家,程序工程师,
思想家,
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that people really need long stretches of uninterrupted time
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这些人真得需要
用很长的一段不受干扰的时间来做些事情。
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to get something done.
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You cannot ask somebody to be creative in 15 minutes
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你不能要求这些搞创造力的人在15分钟的时间就想到创意
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and really think about a problem.
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还能认真地思考问题。
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You might have a quick idea,
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搞创造的人可能会有灵感,
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but to be in deep thought about a problem and really consider a problem carefully,
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但是如果想要深入、仔细的思考问题,
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you need long stretches of uninterrupted time.
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他们就需要很长的一段不受干扰的时间。
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And even though the work day is typically eight hours,
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尽管一天的工作日是8个小时,
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how many people here have ever had eight hours to themselves at the office?
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有多少人是真真的把这8个小时用在工作上?
有7个小时吗?
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How about seven hours?
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04:33
Six? Five? Four?
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6个?5个?还是4个?
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When's the last time you had three hours to yourself at the office?
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你什么时候有过在办公室里独立完成工作3个小时过?
04:39
Two hours? One, maybe?
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2个小时?也许只有一个小时吧。
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Very, very few people actually have
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很少人真的有过
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long stretches of uninterrupted time at an office.
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在办公室长时间不受干扰的工作。
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And this is why people choose to do work at home,
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这也是为什么大家情愿在家工作,
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or they might go to the office,
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他们可能会去办公室上班,
04:51
but they might go to the office really early in the day,
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但是他们可能会很早就去,
或者到很晚,没有一个人的时候才离开,
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or late at night when no one's around,
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04:55
or they stick around after everyone's left,
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或者等到大家都离开后,他们会留下来工作,或者是周末的时候加班,
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or go in on the weekends,
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或者在飞机上也工作,
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or they get work done on the plane, in the car or in the train,
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还有汽车上,火车上的工作,
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because there are no distractions.
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这是因为这些时候,人们都不会被打扰。
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Now there are different kinds of distractions,
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打扰的方式有各种各样的,
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but not the really bad distractions, which I'll talk about in a minute.
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这里,我就不列举
那些恶劣的打扰方式了。
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And this whole phenomenon of having short bursts of time to get things done
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这个现象
用一段段零碎的时间来完成工作这个现象,
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reminds me of another thing that doesn't work when you're interrupted,
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让我想起了一件事-
它就是睡觉,当你睡觉被打扰时,
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and that is sleep.
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你就很难再入睡。
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I think that sleep and work are very closely related --
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睡觉跟工作是互有关联的。
不是因为睡觉的时候无法工作
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not because you can work while you're sleeping and sleep while you're working.
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或者工作的时候不能睡觉。
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That's not really what I mean.
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这不是我要讲的。
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I'm talking specifically about the fact that sleep and work are phase-based,
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我要讲的是
工作和睡觉
都是分阶段的、
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or stage-based, events.
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分时段的状态。
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Sleep is about sleep phases, or stages -- some people call them different things.
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睡觉分各个阶段、时段--
不同的阶段有不同的名字。
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There are five of them, and in order to get to the really deep ones,
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总共有五个阶段,
为了进到最深的、最有意义的阶段,
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the meaningful ones, you have to go through the early ones.
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你必须经历最初的那些阶段。
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If you're interrupted while you're going through the early ones --
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如果你在前面的阶段就被打扰了,
可能有人翻身碰到你,
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if someone bumps you in bed, or there's a sound, or whatever happens --
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或者是有什么声音,或其他什么事,
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you don't just pick up where you left off.
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你没办法回到这个阶段继续睡。
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If you're interrupted and woken up,
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如果你被打扰了,醒了过来,
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you have to start again.
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你又得重头开始。
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So you have to go back a few phases and start again.
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你就得重回到睡眠的前几个阶段。
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And what ends up happening -- you might have days like this
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结果就是,有的时候,你可能有几天
在早上8点就醒来,有时是7点,
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where you wake up at eight or seven in the morning, or whenever you get up,
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或者是当你起来的时候,
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and you're like, "I didn't sleep very well.
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你会觉得一夜没睡好。
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I did the sleep thing -- I went to bed, I laid down,
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你又去睡觉,上了床,然后躺下,
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but I didn't really sleep."
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但是你却不能入睡。
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People say you go "to" sleep,
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我们说去睡觉,
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but you don't go to sleep, you go towards sleep; it takes a while.
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其实不是一倒下就睡着,而是进入梦境。
这是需要时间的,一个阶段一个阶段的慢慢来。
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You've got to go through phases and stuff,
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06:26
and if you're interrupted, you don't sleep well.
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如果你被干扰了,当然就睡不好了。
06:28
So does anyone here expect someone to sleep well
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这样我们还怎么希望能睡好呢──如果一整晚都被打扰的话,
有人觉得你能睡得好吗?
06:31
if they're interrupted all night?
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I don't think anyone would say yes.
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我觉得应该没人会说睡得好。
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Why do we expect people to work well
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如果在办公室里不断地被打扰,
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if they're being interrupted all day at the office?
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我们为什么还希望大家好好工作呢?
如果他们总是被打扰,
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How can we possibly expect people to do their job
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06:41
if they go to the office and are interrupted?
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我们又怎能要求他们好好工作呢?
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That doesn't really seem like it makes a lot of sense, to me.
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对我来说,这很不合理。
06:46
So what are the interruptions that happen at the office but not at other places?
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那么为什么在其他地方工作的时候,
就不会被打扰了呢?
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Because in other places, you can have interruptions like the TV,
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因为其他地方,会有干扰,
比如会跑去看电视
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or you could go for a walk, or there's a fridge downstairs,
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或者是散个步,
到楼下冰箱拿个东西,
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or you've got your own couch, or whatever you want to do.
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或者你赖在自己的沙发上,想要什么就有什么。
07:01
If you talk to certain managers, they'll tell you
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如果你这样跟你的经理讲,
他们会要求你不要在家里工作,
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that they don't want their employees to work at home
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because of these distractions.
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由于有这样那样的干扰因素的存在。
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They'll sometimes also say,
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他们还会说,
有时也会这样说,
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"If I can't see the person, how do I know they're working?"
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“恩,我甚至看不见他们的身影,我怎样知道他们在工作呢?”
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which is ridiculous, but that's one of the excuses that managers give.
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这个理由是很荒唐的,但是很多经理人总会拿这一点来做借口。
07:17
And I'm one of these managers. I understand. I know how this goes.
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我也是这样的经理。
所以我对这些都了解。
07:21
We all have to improve on this sort of thing.
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但是我们要改善这种情形,
尽管他们常常会举例。
07:24
But oftentimes they'll cite distractions:
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“我不会允许员工在家里工作。
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"I can't let someone work at home.
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07:27
They'll watch TV, or do this other thing."
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他们会看电视,干其他与工作无关的事。”
07:29
It turns out those aren't the things that are distracting,
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但其实这些事并不会真的干扰你。
07:32
Because those are voluntary distractions.
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因为这些事都是自愿分心。
07:34
You decide when you want to be distracted by the TV,
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你可以自己决定什么时候看电视;
07:36
when you want to turn something on,
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决定什么时候打开冰箱;
07:38
or when you want to go downstairs or go for a walk.
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决定什么时候下楼、散步。
07:41
At the office,
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而在办公室里,大多数打搅到工作的
07:42
most of the interruptions and distractions
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干扰因素
07:44
that really cause people not to get work done are involuntary.
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都是被动产生的。
07:47
So let's go through a couple of those.
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让我来举些例。
07:50
Now, managers and bosses will often have you think
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现在,上司、老板们
会经常认为,工作的时候真真让你分心的是
07:53
that the real distractions at work
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07:55
are things like Facebook and Twitter
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Facebook 和 twitter
07:58
and YouTube and other websites,
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youtube等网站。
08:01
and in fact, they'll go so far as to actually ban these sites at work.
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事实上,他们也会完全的禁止
上班时游览这些网页。
08:05
Some of you may work at places where you can't get to certain sites.
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有些办公地甚至打开不了这些网站。
这是在中国吗?这到底是怎么了?
08:09
I mean, is this China? What the hell is going on here?
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08:11
You can't go to a website at work, and that's the problem?
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工作的时候竟然不能上这些网,
难道这就是问题的所在之处,这就是大家无法在工作时间里完成工作的原因,
08:14
That's why people aren't getting work done,
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是因为他们在上Facebook,twitter吗?
08:16
because they're on Facebook and Twitter?
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这真得很可笑,很荒谬。
08:18
That's kind of ridiculous. It's a total decoy.
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08:21
Today's Facebook and Twitter and YouTube,
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今天的Facebook、twitter还有youtube
08:24
these things are just modern-day smoke breaks.
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等上网时间就等于是当代的抽烟时间而已。
08:27
No one cared about letting people take a smoke break for 15 minutes 10 years ago,
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从10年前起,人们在上班时间溜出去抽15分钟的烟,根本就没人在乎
08:31
so why does anyone care if someone goes to Facebook
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那么为什么现在偶尔上个Facebook、twitter、youtube
08:33
or Twitter or YouTube here and there?
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就会有一大堆的意见?
这些根本不是问题的关键所在。
08:36
Those aren't the real problems in the office.
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08:38
The real problems are what I like to call the M&Ms,
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问题出在于被我称之为
M&M's上
08:42
the Managers and the Meetings.
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经理(managers)和会议(meetings)的身上。
08:44
Those are the real problems in the modern office today.
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这些才是现今办公室里问题的所在,
也是员工没法顺利完成工作的原因,
08:48
And this is why things don't get done at work,
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08:50
it's because of the M&Ms.
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因为M&M's的存在。
08:52
Now what's interesting is,
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有趣的是
08:54
if you listen to all the places that people talk about doing work,
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当你听到大家谈论各自的高效工作的地点时,
08:57
like at home, in the car, on a plane, late at night, or early in the morning,
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比如在家里、汽车里、飞机上,
或者在深夜或清晨的讨论,
09:01
you don't find managers and meetings.
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但就是不会听到关于经理和会议的谈论;
09:03
You find a lot of other distractions, but not managers and meetings.
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你会发现很多别的干扰因素,但是不会归咎到经理和会议的干扰因素上。
经理和会议只会是办公室办公的干扰因素,
09:07
So these are the things that you don't find elsewhere,
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它们不会在别处出现。
09:10
but you do find at the office.
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09:12
And managers are basically people whose job it is to interrupt people.
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某种意义上来说,经理的工作
就是打扰员工。
09:16
That's pretty much what managers are for. They're for interrupting people.
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这也是经理喜欢干的,他们喜欢打扰别人工作。
09:19
They don't really do the work, so they make sure everyone else is doing work,
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他们本身不需要工作,
他们监督下属工作的行为,实际上就是构成了干扰。
09:23
which is an interruption.
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目前世界上有很多经理,
09:25
We have lots of managers in the world now, and a lot of people in the world,
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也有很多的员工。
09:28
and a lot of interruptions by these managers.
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由于经理而造成的干扰就有很多。
09:30
They have to check in: "Hey, how's it going?
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为了调查工作进度,他们会问:“工作做得怎么样了?
09:32
Show me what's up." This sort of thing.
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给我展示一下。”等类似的话。
09:34
They keep interrupting you at the wrong time,
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他们还总是会在不恰当的时间来打扰你,
当你正在努力完成他们分配的任务的时候,
09:37
while you're actually trying to do something they're paying you to do,
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他们往往在关键时候来打扰你。
09:40
they tend to interrupt you.
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09:41
That's kind of bad.
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这是很糟糕的。
09:43
But what's even worse is the thing that managers do most of all,
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但是还有比这更糟糕的呢,
09:46
which is call meetings.
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那就是开会。
09:47
And meetings are just toxic,
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开会的时候是一天中最无聊
09:50
terrible, poisonous things
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又烦人、又浪费时间
09:53
during the day at work.
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的事。
09:55
(Laughter)
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我们都知道这一点事实。
09:56
We all know this to be true,
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09:58
and you would never see a spontaneous meeting called by employees.
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你也不会看到以后有员工组织的会议;
这根本不会发生。
10:01
It doesn't work that way.
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10:02
The manager calls the meeting
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经理开会的时候
10:04
so the employees can all come together,
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所有的员工都聚集起来,
10:06
and it's an incredibly disruptive thing to do to people --
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这真的是一件很具干扰性质的事。
经理们会说:“记住,
10:09
to say, "Hey look,
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10:10
we're going to bring 10 people together right now and have a meeting.
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我们现在要召集10个人开会。
10:13
I don't care what you're doing,
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我不关心你们现在在做什么。
10:15
you've got to stop doing it, so you can have this meeting."
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你们要做的就是停下一切手头上的事,然后来开这个会。”
10:18
I mean, what are the chances that all 10 people are ready to stop?
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这10个人就这么突然停下来去开会?
10:21
What if they're thinking about something important, or doing important work?
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要是他们正在思考重要的事情呢?
做重要的工作呢?
10:25
All of a sudden you tell them they have to stop doing that to do something else.
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就这么突然,你告诉他们,必须停下来手边的工作
来开会。
10:29
So they go into a meeting room, they get together,
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他们进入会议室,聚在一起,
10:32
and they talk about stuff that doesn't really matter, usually.
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并谈论一些根本无关紧要的事。
10:35
Because meetings aren't work.
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事实上,会议根本起不了任何的作用。
10:37
Meetings are places to go to talk about things
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开会是为了商讨公司以后的计划。
10:39
you're supposed to be doing later.
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但是开会有时也是为了提前安排事宜。
10:41
But meetings also procreate.
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一个又一个
10:43
So one meeting tends to lead to another meeting,
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开不完的会议。
10:45
which leads to another meeting.
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10:46
There's often too many people in the meetings,
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开会的时候,总是有那么多人,
对于组织来说,这是很贵的。
10:49
and they're very, very expensive to the organization.
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10:51
Companies often think of a one-hour meeting as a one-hour meeting,
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公司老板总是想着开个1小时的会议,
但是这个是不现实的,除非会议室里只有一个人。
10:55
but that's not true, unless there's only one person.
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10:57
If there are 10 people, it's a 10-hour meeting, not a one-hour meeting.
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如果有10个人参加了会议,那这就是10小时的会议,不是1小时会议。
这个10小时的会议是挪用了其他组织或其他人的时间,
11:01
It's 10 hours of productivity taken from the rest of the organization
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这才有了这1小时的会议,
11:04
to have this one-hour meeting, which probably should have been handled
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这会议本该是由2个或3个组织者
11:07
by two or three people talking for a few minutes.
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简短的发言组成。
11:10
But instead, there's a long scheduled meeting,
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但事实上,最后却变成了一个议程繁多的会议,
11:12
because meetings are scheduled the way software works,
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因为议程是按软件运行的方式安排的,
11:15
which is in increments of 15 minutes, or 30 minutes, or an hour.
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延长15分钟,半小时或者1个小时。
11:18
You don't schedule an eight-hour meeting with Outlook; you can't.
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你用Outlook不会安排一个8小时的会议。
你也不能。当然,我是不知道你能不能。
11:22
You can go 15 minutes or 30 minutes or 45 minutes or an hour.
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你可以延长15分钟,半小时,45分钟或者1个小时。
11:25
And so we tend to fill these times up
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当事情紧急的时候,
11:27
when things should go really quickly.
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我们不得不充分利用时间。
11:29
So meetings and managers are two major problems in businesses today,
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因此会议和经理是现今商务事业中的主要问题,
尤其是在办公室里。
11:33
especially at offices.
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11:34
These things don't exist outside of the office.
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这些情况不会在办公室以外的地方发生。
11:37
So I have some suggestions to remedy the situation.
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因此,我有以下几条建议
来纠正,解决这些问题。
11:42
What can managers do --
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经理们可以这样做。
11:44
enlightened managers, hopefully --
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我指的是开明的经理们。
11:46
what can they do to make the office a better place for people to work,
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他们可以把办公室进一步改造成适合员工工作的地方,
11:49
so it's not the last resort, but it's the first resort,
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使得办公室成为大家工作的首选之地。
11:52
so that people start to say,
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大家都开始说:
11:53
"When I really want to get stuff done, I go to the office."
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“当我真的想工作的时候,我会去办公室。”
11:56
Because the offices are well-equipped;
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因为办公室里设备齐全,
11:58
everything is there for them to do the work.
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所有涉及工作的东西都一应俱全,
12:00
But they don't want to go there right now, so how do we change that?
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但是,现在大家还不想去办公室工作,那么我们该如何来改变这种现状呢?
我有三条建议,现在就来跟你们分享一下。
12:04
I have three suggestions to share with you.
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只需要大约3分钟的时间,就能解释清楚。
12:06
I have about three minutes, so that'll fit perfectly.
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我们都听过星期五是随意工作日。
12:09
We've all heard of the Casual Friday thing.
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12:11
I don't know if people still do that.
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我不知道大家是否还在这么做。
12:13
But how about "No-talk Thursdays?"
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那么不妨设定星期四为无交谈日?
12:15
(Laughter)
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就这样好了,
12:17
Pick one Thursday once a month,
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随便挑一个月里的一个星期四,
12:20
and cut it in half, just the afternoon -- I'll make it easy for you.
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再简单一点,那就取个半天,星期四下午好了。
12:23
So just the afternoon, one Thursday.
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那就星期四下午。
12:25
First Thursday of the month, just the afternoon,
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假设就这月第一个星期四的下午,
12:27
nobody in the office can talk to each other.
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办公室里不准有任何的交谈。
有的只能是安静。
12:30
Just silence, that's it.
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12:31
And what you'll find
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然后,你会发现
12:33
is that a tremendous amount of work gets done
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没有人交谈的时候,
12:35
when no one talks to each other.
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很多工作很快就会完成。
12:37
This is when people actually get stuff done,
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所有的工作都完成的时候,
12:39
is when no one's bothering them or interrupting them.
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正是没有任何干扰的时候。
12:41
Giving someone four hours of uninterrupted time
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4个小时的无干扰工作时间
12:44
is the best gift you can give anybody at work.
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是给需要工作的人最好的礼物。
这比电脑还要好,
12:47
It's better than a computer,
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12:48
better than a new monitor, better than new software,
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比调制解调器,软件都要高效,
12:51
or whatever people typically use.
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比大家平常用的任何的东西都要好。
12:53
Giving them four hours of quiet time at the office
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给他们4个小时安静的办公时间-
12:55
is going to be incredibly valuable.
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这将会成为珍贵的事。
12:57
If you try that, I think you'll agree, and hopefully you can do it more often.
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如果你试着做了,你会同意这一点。
也许,你可以多实行几次。
13:01
So maybe it's every other week,
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也许是每隔一个星期一次,
13:03
or every week, once a week,
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或者是每个星期一次,
13:05
afternoons no one can talk to each other.
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下午的时候,都不准许有任何的交谈。
13:07
That's something that you'll find will really, really work.
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你会发现这真得很有效。
13:10
Another thing you can try,
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另外你也可以试试
13:12
is switching from active communication and collaboration,
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从主动
交流和协作的方式,
13:16
which is like face-to-face stuff -- tapping people on the shoulder,
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也就是从面对面的交谈,
拍拍他们的肩膀,说声你好,包括开会的主动交流,
13:19
saying hi to them, having meetings,
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13:21
and replace that with more passive models of communication,
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转变为更被动地交流方式
比如电子邮件,即时通讯,
13:24
using things like email and instant messaging,
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13:26
or collaboration products, things like that.
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或者是协作产品等类似的被动交流。
13:29
Now some people might say email is really distracting,
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有人可能会说,电子邮件非常的干扰人,
13:32
I.M. is really distracting, and these other things are really distracting,
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即时通讯也很让人头疼,
这些都是干扰因素,
13:36
but they're distracting at a time of your own choice and your own choosing.
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但是这些干扰因素产生与否在于你自己的选择。
你可以不用电子邮件的功能,但你不能不回复你老板的电邮。
13:40
You can quit the email app; you can't quit your boss.
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13:42
You can quit I.M.;
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你可以不用即时通讯,
13:44
you can't hide your manager.
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但你离不开你的经理。
13:46
You can put these things away,
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一旦你不用这些交流工具,
13:48
and then you can be interrupted on your own schedule, at your own time,
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当你有空的时候,你个人时间也会被打乱;
13:51
when you're available, when you're ready to go again.
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或者当你准备好出发的时候,你的行程又会被打乱。
因为工作就像睡觉一样,它是分阶段的。
13:54
Because work, like sleep, happens in phases.
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13:56
So you'll be going up, doing some work,
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你要先做一些其它的事,慢慢铺垫,
13:58
and then you'll come down from that work,
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然后才能完成后续工作,
14:00
and then maybe it's time to check that email or I.M.
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那么也许,有时你就得检查电邮,看看即时通讯。
14:02
There are very, very few things that are that urgent,
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很少有紧急的事
14:05
that need to happen, that need to be answered right this second.
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同时发生,需要你立刻去解决。
14:08
So if you're a manager,
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因此如果你的经理
14:09
start encouraging people to use more things like I.M. and email
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开始鼓励你多使用像即时通讯和电子邮件的工具,
14:12
and other things that someone can put away
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还有做其他一些可有可无的事,
14:14
and then get back to you on their own schedule.
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然后让你的步调跟他们的一致。
14:16
And the last suggestion I have is that,
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我的最后一条建议是
如果你将要开一个会议,
14:20
if you do have a meeting coming up,
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14:22
if you have the power, just cancel it.
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如果你有这个权利,
就把会议取消掉,取消掉下一个会议。
14:25
Just cancel that next meeting.
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14:27
(Laughter)
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14:28
Today's Friday, usually people have meetings on Monday.
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今天是星期五,一般来说,会议会在星期一召开。
就取消会议吧!
14:31
Just don't have it.
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14:32
I don't mean move it;
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我不是说调动会议,
14:33
I mean just erase it from memory, it's gone.
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而是忘记这会议,会议没了。
14:36
And you'll find out that everything will be just fine.
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你会发现一切都很顺利。
14:39
All these discussions and decisions you thought you had to make
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所有这些你觉得你必须在星期一早上9点做的
商讨和决定,
14:42
at this one time at 9 a.m. on Monday,
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14:43
just forget about them, and things will be fine.
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就忘记他们吧,一切都会是顺利的。
这样,大家会觉得,他们将会有一个更加开放的早晨,
14:46
People will have a more open morning, they can actually think.
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你也会发现,也许这些你觉得你必须要做的事情
14:49
You'll find out all these things you thought you had to do,
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事实上,你不一定要做。
14:52
you don't actually have to do.
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这就是我的三条建议,
14:53
So those are just three quick suggestions I wanted to give you guys to think about.
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我希望你们能够好好思考一下。
同时,我也希望这些建议
14:57
I hope that some of these ideas were at least provocative enough
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相当挑衅但至少是有用的
15:00
for managers and bosses and business owners
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不管是对经理,老板还是商务人士
15:02
and organizers and people who are in charge of other people,
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组织者还是管理人员来说,
15:05
to think about laying off a little bit,
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大家都能想着,与其裁员,
15:07
and giving people more time to get work done.
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还不如给大家更多的时间来做些实质工作。
15:09
I think it'll all pay off in the end.
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这样,我觉得最后一定会有收获的。
15:11
So, thanks for listening.
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谢谢各位的聆听。
15:13
(Applause)
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