Why work doesn't happen at work | Jason Fried

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: J J LEE ๊ฒ€ํ† : Yongchan Kwon
์ž, ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ด๋ณด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
00:16
So I'm going to talk about work;
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00:17
specifically, why people can't seem to get work done at work,
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ํŠนํžˆ ์–ด์งธ์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ
์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€ ์•Š์€์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:21
which is a problem we all kind of have.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ฒช์–ด๋ณธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
00:24
But let's sort of start at the beginning.
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๋งจ ์ฒ˜์Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด๋ณผ๊นŒ์š”.
00:26
So, we have companies and non-profits and charities
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๊ธฐ์—…๋“ค, ๋น„์˜๋ฆฌ๋‹จ์ฒด๋“ค, ์ž์„ ๋‹จ์ฒด๋“ค
00:29
and all these groups that have employees or volunteers of some sort.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง์›๋“ค์ด๋‚˜
์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ž์›๋ด‰์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”
์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ง‘๋‹จ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:35
And they expect these people who work for them
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง‘๋‹จ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
์ผ์„ ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:39
to do great work --
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00:40
I would hope, at least.
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์ ์–ด๋„ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:42
At least good work, hopefully, at least it's good work --
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์ ์–ด๋„ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•  ๋งŒํ•œ ์ผ์ด์ฃ . ๋ฐ”๋ผ๊ฑด๋ฐ ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•  ์ผ์„์š”.
00:44
hopefully great work.
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๋ฐ”๋ผ๊ฑด๋ฐ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ์ผ์„์š”.
00:46
And so what they typically do is they decide
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์€
00:48
that all these people need to come together in one place to do that work.
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ํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ์—์„œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š” ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:52
So a company, or a charity, or an organization of any kind,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธฐ์—…์ด๋‚˜ ์ž์„ ๋‹จ์ฒด ๋˜๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์กฐ์ง์ด๋“ 
00:55
unless you're working in Africa, if you're really lucky to do that --
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ -- ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์ด์ƒ,
๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ •๋„๋กœ ์šด์ด ์ข‹๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ง์ด์ฃ . --
00:59
most people have to go to an office every day.
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์ผ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค๋กœ ์ถœ๊ทผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:01
And so these companies,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์€
01:03
they build offices.
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์„ ์„ค๋ฆฝํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:05
They go out and they buy a building, or they rent a building,
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๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์„ ๋งค์ž… ๋˜๋Š” ์ž„์ฐจํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
01:08
or they lease some space,
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๋นŒ๋ ค์„œ,
01:10
and they fill this space with stuff.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ง‘๊ธฐ๋“ค๋กœ ์ฑ„์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:13
They fill it with tables, or desks,
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ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์ด๋‚˜ ์ฑ…์ƒ,
01:16
chairs, computer equipment,
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์˜์ž, ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ๋“ค,
์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด,
01:19
software, Internet access,
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท ์ ‘์†,
01:22
maybe a fridge, maybe a few other things,
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๋ƒ‰์žฅ๊ณ  ๋“ฑ๋“ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ฑ„์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:25
and they expect their employees, or their volunteers,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ง์›๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ์ž์›๋ด‰์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์ด
๊ทธ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์ผ ์ถœ๊ทผํ•ด์„œ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ผ์ฃ .
01:28
to come to that location every day to do great work.
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01:30
It seems like it's perfectly reasonable to ask that.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์š”๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง€๊ทนํžˆ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:33
However, if you actually talk to people
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์„ ์ง„์งœ ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•  ๋•Œ,
์–ด๋””์—์„œ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š๋ƒ๊ณ 
01:36
and even question yourself, and you ask yourself,
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋‚˜
01:38
where do you really want to go when you really need to get something done?
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์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
01:42
You'll find out that people don't say what businesses think they would say.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ธฐ์—…์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ตํ• ๊ฑฐ๋ผ
์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ต์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:46
If you ask people the question:
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๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์›ํ•  ๋•Œ, ์–ด๋””๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š๋ƒ๊ณ 
01:47
Where do you need to go when you need to get something done?
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–จ๊นŒ์š”?
01:50
Typically, you get three different kinds of answers.
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‹ต์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:52
One is kind of a place or a location or a room.
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์žฅ์†Œ๋‚˜ ์œ„์น˜, ๊ณต๊ฐ„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ ,
01:55
Another one is a moving object,
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๋˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์›€์ง์ด๋Š” ๋Œ€์ƒ,
01:57
and a third is a time.
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์…‹์งธ๋กœ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
01:59
So here are some examples.
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๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์ฃ .
02:01
I've been asking people this question for about 10 years:
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ๋•Œ, ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ 10๋…„์งธ ํ•ด์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:04
"Where do you go when you really need to get something done?"
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ "์ •๋ง ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ, ์–ด๋””๋กœ ๊ฐ€์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์œผ๋ฉด
๋ฒ ๋ž€๋‹ค, ๋งˆ๋‹น, ๋ถ€์—Œ ๊ฐ™์€
02:07
I'll hear things like, the porch, the deck, the kitchen.
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๋‹ต์„ ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:11
I'll hear things like an extra room in the house,
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์ง‘์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฐฉ,
์ง€ํ•˜์‹ค, ์ปคํ”ผ์ƒต
02:14
the basement,
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02:15
the coffee shop, the library.
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๋„์„œ๊ด€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‹ต์„ ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:18
And then you'll hear things like the train,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ์ „์ฒ , ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ, ์ฐจ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€
02:21
a plane, a car -- so, the commute.
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ํ†ต๊ทผ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋Œ€๋‹ต์„ ๋“ค์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
And then you'll hear people say,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ "์ •๋ง ์ด๋ฅธ ์•„์นจ์ด๋‚˜
02:26
"Well, it doesn't really matter where I am,
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์ •๋ง ๋Šฆ์€ ๋ฐค, ๋˜๋Š” ์ฃผ๋ง์ด๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด,
02:28
as long as it's early in the morning or late at night or on the weekends."
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์žฅ์†Œ๋Š” ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹ต์„ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋Œ€๋‹ต์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:32
You almost never hear someone say, "The office."
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์ด๋ผ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์žฅ์†Œ์— ๋ˆ์„ ์Ÿ์•„๋ถ“๊ณ 
02:35
But businesses are spending all this money on this place called the office,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ค๋„๋ก ๋งŒ๋“ค์ง€๋งŒ,
02:38
and they're making people go to it all the time,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:40
yet people don't do work in the office.
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์–ด์งธ์„œ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
02:43
What is that about?
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02:44
(Laughter)
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์™œ์ฃ ?
02:45
Why is that? Why is that happening?
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์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ ๊นŒ์š”?
02:49
And what you find out is,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ข€ ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋ณด๋ฉด
02:50
if you dig a little bit deeper, you find out that people --
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์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ถœ๊ทผํ•˜๊ณ 
02:54
this is what happens:
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02:55
People go to work,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ถœ๊ทผํ•˜๋ฉด
02:57
and they're basically trading in their work day
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ทผ๋ฌด์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ค‘์—์„œ
02:59
for a series of "work moments" -- that's what happens at the office.
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์ผ๋ จ์˜ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๋งž๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง€๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:03
You don't have a work day anymore. You have work moments.
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๊ทผ๋ฌด์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š”๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์˜ ์ •๋ฌธ์€ ๋ฏน์„œ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ™์•„์„œ
03:06
It's like the front door of the office is like a Cuisinart,
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03:08
and you walk in and your day is shredded to bits,
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๋“ค์–ด์„œ๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋Š” ์กฐ๊ฐ์กฐ๊ฐ ๋‚˜์ฃ .
์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— 15๋ถ„, ์ €๊ธฐ์— 30๋ถ„์„ ๋งค๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ๊ณ ,
03:11
because you have 15 minutes here, 30 minutes there,
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03:13
and something else happens, you're pulled off your work,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋ฉด ํ•˜๋˜ ์ผ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ณด๋ฉด, 20๋ถ„ ์ •๋„ ์ž๊ธฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ , ๊ณง ์ ์‹ฌ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์ฃ .
03:16
then you have 20 minutes, then it's lunch, then you have something else to do ...
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•  ์ผ์ด ์ƒ๊ธฐ๊ณ ,
03:20
Then you've got 15 minutes, and someone pulls you aside and asks you a question,
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15๋ถ„ ์ •๋„ ์ž๊ธฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•Œ์•„์ฑ„๊ธฐ๋„ ์ „์— ์˜คํ›„ 5์‹œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:24
and before you know it, it's 5 p.m.,
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03:26
and you look back on the day,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋ฅผ ๋˜๋Œ์•„ ๋ณด๋ฉด,
03:28
and you realize that you didn't get anything done.
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์•„๋ฌด ์ผ๋„ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ ๋ชปํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์ฃ .
์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:31
We've all been through this.
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03:32
We probably went through it yesterday or the day before, or the day before that.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์–ด์ œ ์ด๋žฌ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
๊ทธ์ œ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ทธ์ œ์˜€์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ฃ .
03:36
You look back on your day,
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ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋ฅผ ๋˜๋Œ์•„ ๋ณด๋‹ˆ, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ ์ง€์€ ์ผ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:37
and you're like, "I got nothing done today.
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03:39
I was at work. I sat at my desk. I used my expensive computer.
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์ถœ๊ทผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ ,
์ฑ…์ƒ์— ์•‰์•„ ๋น„์‹ผ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ ,
03:44
I used the software they told me to use.
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ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์“ฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•œ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ ,
03:46
I went to these meetings I was asked to go to.
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์ฐธ์„ํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•œ ํšŒ์˜์—๋„ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณ ,
03:49
I did these conference calls. I did all this stuff.
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์ „ํ™” ํšŒ์˜๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:51
But I didn't actually do anything.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:54
I just did tasks.
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๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ณผ์—…๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์ง€,
03:55
I didn't actually get meaningful work done."
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์—…๋ฌด๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:58
And what you find is that, especially with creative people --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํŠนํžˆ ์ฐฝ์กฐ์ ์ธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค,
04:01
designers, programmers, writers, engineers, thinkers --
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๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ, ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋จธ,
์ž‘๊ฐ€, ์—”์ง€๋‹ˆ์–ด,
์‚ฌ์ƒ๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด
04:07
that people really need long stretches of uninterrupted time
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์ •๋ง ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ธด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:11
to get something done.
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04:12
You cannot ask somebody to be creative in 15 minutes
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ 15๋ถ„ ๋‚ด๋กœ ์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ด ๋˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ณ ,
04:15
and really think about a problem.
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์–ด๋–ค ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ  ์š”์ฒญํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:17
You might have a quick idea,
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์žฌ๋น ๋ฅธ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ,
04:19
but to be in deep thought about a problem and really consider a problem carefully,
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์–ด๋–ค ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊นŠ์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ง„์งœ ์ฃผ์˜๊นŠ๊ฒŒ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”
04:22
you need long stretches of uninterrupted time.
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๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ธด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:25
And even though the work day is typically eight hours,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—…๋ฌด์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ 8์‹œ๊ฐ„์ผ์ง€๋ผ๋„,
04:28
how many people here have ever had eight hours to themselves at the office?
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ 8์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ• ๋‹นํ•ด๋ณด์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
7์‹œ๊ฐ„์€์š”?
04:32
How about seven hours?
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04:33
Six? Five? Four?
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6์‹œ๊ฐ„? 5์‹œ๊ฐ„? 4์‹œ๊ฐ„?
04:36
When's the last time you had three hours to yourself at the office?
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ 3์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ํ• ๋‹นํ•ด๋ณธ ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์ œ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
04:39
Two hours? One, maybe?
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2์‹œ๊ฐ„์€์š”? 1์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ์žˆ์œผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
04:41
Very, very few people actually have
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์•„์ฃผ ์†Œ์ˆ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋งŒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
04:43
long stretches of uninterrupted time at an office.
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ธด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:46
And this is why people choose to do work at home,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ง‘์—์„œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
04:49
or they might go to the office,
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์— ์ถœ๊ทผ์„ ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„
04:51
but they might go to the office really early in the day,
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์ •๋ง ์•„์นจ ์ผ์ฐ์ด๋‚˜ ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์ฃผ์œ„์— ์—†์„ ๋•Œ ๋ฐค ๋Šฆ๊ฒŒ
์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
04:54
or late at night when no one's around,
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04:55
or they stick around after everyone's left,
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๋ชจ๋‘ ํ‡ด๊ทผํ•œ ํ›„์— ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ฃผ๋ง์— ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
04:58
or go in on the weekends,
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๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
04:59
or they get work done on the plane, in the car or in the train,
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์ฐจ๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ์ฐจ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:02
because there are no distractions.
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๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:04
Now there are different kinds of distractions,
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ฐฉํ•ด์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ,
05:06
but not the really bad distractions, which I'll talk about in a minute.
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์ด์ œ ๊ณง ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด
์ •๋ง ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๋ฐฉํ•ด์š”์†Œ๋“ค์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:10
And this whole phenomenon of having short bursts of time to get things done
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ์„ ์™„๋ฃŒํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
์งง์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๊ฑด๋“ค์€
05:14
reminds me of another thing that doesn't work when you're interrupted,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ฐฉํ•ด ๋ฐ›์„ ๋•Œ,
์ผ์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋– ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:18
and that is sleep.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์ด์ฃ .
05:20
I think that sleep and work are very closely related --
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์ˆ˜๋ฉด๊ณผ ์ผ์€ ์•„์ฃผ ๋ฐ€์ ‘ํžˆ ์—ฐ๊ด€๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜๋ฉด ์ค‘์— ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
05:23
not because you can work while you're sleeping and sleep while you're working.
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์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘์— ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์„ ์ทจํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:26
That's not really what I mean.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:28
I'm talking specifically about the fact that sleep and work are phase-based,
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์ €๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด๊ณผ ์ผ์€
๊ตญ๋ฉด์— ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์„ ๋‘๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
๋‹จ๊ณ„์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„
05:34
or stage-based, events.
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๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
Sleep is about sleep phases, or stages -- some people call them different things.
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์ˆ˜๋ฉด์—๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋ฉด ๊ตญ๋ฉด ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ง€์นญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:42
There are five of them, and in order to get to the really deep ones,
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๋ชจ๋‘ 5๋‹จ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
๊นŠ์€ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด, ์˜๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์— ์ด๋ฅด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”
05:46
the meaningful ones, you have to go through the early ones.
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์‚ฌ์ „ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋“ค์„ ๊ฑฐ์ณ์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:49
If you're interrupted while you're going through the early ones --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์ „ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋“ค์„ ๊ฑฐ์น˜๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด,
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์ž๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ๋ถ€๋”ชํžŒ๋‹ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
05:52
if someone bumps you in bed, or there's a sound, or whatever happens --
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์†Œ์Œ์ด ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ๋ฌด์Šจ์ผ์ด ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง„๋‹ค๋ฉด,
05:56
you don't just pick up where you left off.
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์ค‘๋‹จํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋กœ ํšŒ๋ณตํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:58
If you're interrupted and woken up,
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๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•„์„œ ๊นจ๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
06:00
you have to start again.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:02
So you have to go back a few phases and start again.
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๋ช‡ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋˜๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ์ฒซ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:05
And what ends up happening -- you might have days like this
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง€๋Š” ์ผ์€, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์•„๋งˆ ๊ฒช์–ด๋ณด์…จ์„ ํ…๋ฐ์š”.
์•„์นจ 7์‹œ๋‚˜ 8์‹œ์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์„œ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์–ธ์ œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋“ ์ง€
06:08
where you wake up at eight or seven in the morning, or whenever you get up,
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"์ด๋Ÿฐ, ์ž ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ชป์žค์–ด.
06:11
and you're like, "I didn't sleep very well.
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์ž๊ธด ์žค๋Š”๋ฐ, ์นจ๋Œ€์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ˆ„์› ๋Š”๋ฐ,
06:13
I did the sleep thing -- I went to bed, I laid down,
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์ง„์งœ๋กœ ์ž ๋“ค์ง€๋Š” ๋ชปํ–ˆ์–ด."
06:16
but I didn't really sleep."
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๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:18
People say you go "to" sleep,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ž ์„ ์ž๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ„๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:21
but you don't go to sleep, you go towards sleep; it takes a while.
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์ž ์€ ์ž๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ž ์„ ํ–ฅํ•ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ์ฃ . ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋“ค์„ ๊ฑฐ์ณ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
You've got to go through phases and stuff,
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06:26
and if you're interrupted, you don't sleep well.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด, ์ž ์„ ์ž˜ ๋ชป ์ž์ฃ .
06:28
So does anyone here expect someone to sleep well
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ํ˜น์‹œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๊ณ„์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค ์ค‘์— ๋ฐค ์ƒˆ๋„๋ก ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
์ž ์„ ์ž˜ ์žค์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์‹ค ๋ถ„ ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
06:31
if they're interrupted all night?
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06:32
I don't think anyone would say yes.
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์•ˆ ๊ณ„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
06:34
Why do we expect people to work well
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์˜จ์ข…์ผ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด
06:36
if they're being interrupted all day at the office?
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์„ ์ž˜ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์˜ˆ์ƒํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์œผ๋Ÿฌ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค๋กœ ์ถœ๊ทผํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
06:39
How can we possibly expect people to do their job
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06:41
if they go to the office and are interrupted?
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ผ์„ ์ž˜ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
06:43
That doesn't really seem like it makes a lot of sense, to me.
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์ •๋ง ๋ง์ด ์•ˆ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:46
So what are the interruptions that happen at the office but not at other places?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์žฅ์†Œ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”
์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋“ค์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
06:50
Because in other places, you can have interruptions like the TV,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์žฅ์†Œ์—์„œ๋Š”, TV๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
06:54
or you could go for a walk, or there's a fridge downstairs,
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๋ƒ‰์žฅ๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋ž˜์ธต์— ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋งŒ์˜ ์†ŒํŒŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
06:58
or you've got your own couch, or whatever you want to do.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:01
If you talk to certain managers, they'll tell you
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด,
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋“ค ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ง์›๋“ค์ด ์ง‘์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„
07:04
that they don't want their employees to work at home
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07:06
because of these distractions.
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์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:08
They'll sometimes also say,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋˜ ์ด๋”ฐ๊ธˆ
๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:11
"If I can't see the person, how do I know they're working?"
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"๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์•Œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?"
07:14
which is ridiculous, but that's one of the excuses that managers give.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์›ƒ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค์ด ๋‚ด๋†“๋Š” ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:17
And I'm one of these managers. I understand. I know how this goes.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ €๋Š” ์ดํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:21
We all have to improve on this sort of thing.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œ์ผœ์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ข…์ข… ์ง‘์ค‘์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:24
But oftentimes they'll cite distractions:
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"์ง์›๋“ค์„ ์ง‘์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด์š”.
07:26
"I can't let someone work at home.
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07:27
They'll watch TV, or do this other thing."
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ TV๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ๋“ค์„ ํ• ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”."
07:29
It turns out those aren't the things that are distracting,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์ง‘์ค‘์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋‹˜์ด ๋ฐํ˜€์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:32
Because those are voluntary distractions.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์ž๋ฐœ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉํ•ด์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:34
You decide when you want to be distracted by the TV,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์–ธ์ œ TV์— ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:36
when you want to turn something on,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์–ธ์ œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ผœ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:38
or when you want to go downstairs or go for a walk.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์–ธ์ œ ์•„๋ž˜์ธต์— ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€, ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:41
At the office,
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š”
07:42
most of the interruptions and distractions
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์ค‘๋‹จ๊ณผ ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋Š”
07:44
that really cause people not to get work done are involuntary.
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๋น„์ž๋ฐœ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:47
So let's go through a couple of those.
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์ž, ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณผ๊นŒ์š”.
07:50
Now, managers and bosses will often have you think
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๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž์™€ ์ง์žฅ ์ƒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์€
์ข…์ข… ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ๋ฐฉํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
07:53
that the real distractions at work
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07:55
are things like Facebook and Twitter
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ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์ด๋‚˜ ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ, ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ,
07:58
and YouTube and other websites,
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์—ฌํƒ€ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:01
and in fact, they'll go so far as to actually ban these sites at work.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ
์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋“ค์„ ๋ง‰๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:05
Some of you may work at places where you can't get to certain sites.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ํŠน์ • ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์— ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘๊ตญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋„๋Œ€์ฒด ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
08:09
I mean, is this China? What the hell is going on here?
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08:11
You can't go to a website at work, and that's the problem?
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์— ์ ‘๊ทผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:14
That's why people aren't getting work done,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—์š”?
08:16
because they're on Facebook and Twitter?
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์›ƒ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ง“์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™„์ „ ๋ณ€๋ช…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:18
That's kind of ridiculous. It's a total decoy.
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08:21
Today's Facebook and Twitter and YouTube,
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ์˜ ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ, ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ, ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ๋Š”
08:24
these things are just modern-day smoke breaks.
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ํ˜„๋Œ€ํŒ ํก์—ฐ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:27
No one cared about letting people take a smoke break for 15 minutes 10 years ago,
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10๋…„ ์ „์—๋Š”, ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ 15๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ์˜ ํก์—ฐ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ
๊ฐ„์„ญํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ฃ .
08:31
so why does anyone care if someone goes to Facebook
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ €๊ธฐ, ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์ €๊ธฐ, ์œ ํˆฌ๋ธŒ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์ €๊ธฐ๋ฅผ
08:33
or Twitter or YouTube here and there?
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์ ‘์†ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์™œ ๊ด€์—ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ์˜ ์ง„์งœ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:36
Those aren't the real problems in the office.
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08:38
The real problems are what I like to call the M&Ms,
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์ง„์งœ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ M&M์ด๋ผ
๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š”
08:42
the Managers and the Meetings.
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๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž(Managers)์™€ ํšŒ์˜(Meetings)์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:44
Those are the real problems in the modern office today.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ํ˜„๋Œ€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ์˜ ์ง„์งœ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ์ผ์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ด์ฃ .
08:48
And this is why things don't get done at work,
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08:50
it's because of the M&Ms.
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M&M ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:52
Now what's interesting is,
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ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์€
08:54
if you listen to all the places that people talk about doing work,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์žฅ์†Œ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋“ค์–ด ๋ณด๋ฉด,
08:57
like at home, in the car, on a plane, late at night, or early in the morning,
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์ง‘์ด๋‚˜, ์ฐจ ๋˜๋Š” ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ ๋“ฑ
๋ฐค ๋Šฆ๊ฒŒ, ์•„์นจ ์ผ์ฐ ๋“ฑ๋“ฑ
09:01
you don't find managers and meetings.
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๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž์™€ ํšŒ์˜๋Š” ์ฐพ์•„๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:03
You find a lot of other distractions, but not managers and meetings.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž์™€ ํšŒ์˜๋Š” ์ฐพ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์žฅ์†Œ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ๋Š”
09:07
So these are the things that you don't find elsewhere,
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์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:10
but you do find at the office.
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09:12
And managers are basically people whose job it is to interrupt people.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ์—…๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:16
That's pretty much what managers are for. They're for interrupting people.
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๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ง์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ์ง์›๋“ค์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ
09:19
They don't really do the work, so they make sure everyone else is doing work,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ผ์€ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ,
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง์›๋“ค์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:23
which is an interruption.
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ํ˜„์žฌ ์„ธ์ƒ์—๋Š” ์ˆ˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:25
We have lots of managers in the world now, and a lot of people in the world,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ ์„ธ์ƒ์—๋Š” ์ˆ˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์ฃ .
09:28
and a lot of interruptions by these managers.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ํ˜„์žฌ ์„ธ์ƒ์—๋Š” ์ˆ˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:30
They have to check in: "Hey, how's it going?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ฃ . "์ด๋ด์š”. ์–ด๋•Œ์š”?
09:32
Show me what's up." This sort of thing.
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์–ด๋–ค์ง€ ์ข€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค˜์š”.", ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:34
They keep interrupting you at the wrong time,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ถ€์ ์ ˆํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ž„๊ธˆ์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•ด๋ณด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ,
09:37
while you're actually trying to do something they're paying you to do,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๋ ค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:40
they tend to interrupt you.
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09:41
That's kind of bad.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:43
But what's even worse is the thing that managers do most of all,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์•ˆ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์€
09:46
which is call meetings.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ํšŒ์˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:47
And meetings are just toxic,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฃผ๊ฐ„์— ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ,
09:50
terrible, poisonous things
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ํšŒ์˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ•ด๋กญ๊ณ ,
09:53
during the day at work.
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๋”์ฐํ•˜๊ณ , ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:55
(Laughter)
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž„์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:56
We all know this to be true,
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09:58
and you would never see a spontaneous meeting called by employees.
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์ง์›๋“ค์ด ์ž๋ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์†Œ์ง‘ํ•˜๋Š” ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ๋ณธ์ ์ด ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:01
It doesn't work that way.
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10:02
The manager calls the meeting
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๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ์†Œ์ง‘ํ•ด์„œ
10:04
so the employees can all come together,
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์ง์›๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ชจ์ด๊ฒŒ๋” ๋ง์ด์ฃ 
10:06
and it's an incredibly disruptive thing to do to people --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ง€์žฅ์„ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
"์ด๋ด์š”, ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ
10:09
to say, "Hey look,
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10:10
we're going to bring 10 people together right now and have a meeting.
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10๋ช…์ด ๋ชจ์—ฌ์„œ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ํ• ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:13
I don't care what you're doing,
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๋ญ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ์ƒ๊ด€ ์—†์–ด์š”.
10:15
you've got to stop doing it, so you can have this meeting."
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ทธ๋งŒ๋‘๊ณ , ํšŒ์˜์— ์ฐธ์„ํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•ด์š”."
10:18
I mean, what are the chances that all 10 people are ready to stop?
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10๋ช… ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋˜ ์ผ์„ ๊ทธ๋งŒ๋‘˜ ํ™•๋ฅ ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
10:21
What if they're thinking about something important, or doing important work?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋˜ ์ค‘์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”?
๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋˜ ์ค‘์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”?
10:25
All of a sudden you tell them they have to stop doing that to do something else.
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๊ณ 
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:29
So they go into a meeting room, they get together,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํšŒ์˜์‹ค๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ, ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์—ฌ,
10:32
and they talk about stuff that doesn't really matter, usually.
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๋Œ€๊ฐœ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ƒ๊ด€์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:35
Because meetings aren't work.
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ํšŒ์˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:37
Meetings are places to go to talk about things
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ํšŒ์˜๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ํ•ด์•ผํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:39
you're supposed to be doing later.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํšŒ์˜๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ฃ .
10:41
But meetings also procreate.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ํšŒ์˜๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์˜๋กœ ์ด์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ ,
10:43
So one meeting tends to lead to another meeting,
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์˜๋กœ ์ด์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:45
which leads to another meeting.
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10:46
There's often too many people in the meetings,
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์ข…์ข… ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํšŒ์˜์— ์ฐธ์„ํ•˜๊ณ ,
์กฐ์ง๋˜๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:49
and they're very, very expensive to the organization.
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10:51
Companies often think of a one-hour meeting as a one-hour meeting,
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ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋Š” ํ”ํžˆ 1์‹œ๊ฐ„ ํšŒ์˜๋Š” 1์‹œ๊ฐ„ ํšŒ์˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
ํšŒ์˜ ์ฐธ์„์ž๊ฐ€ 1๋ช…์ธ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:55
but that's not true, unless there's only one person.
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10:57
If there are 10 people, it's a 10-hour meeting, not a one-hour meeting.
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ํšŒ์˜ ์ฐธ์„์ž๊ฐ€ 10๋ช…์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ๊ทธ ํšŒ์˜๋Š” 1์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์งœ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ 10์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์งœ๋ฆฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์งœ๋ฆฌ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ ์กฐ์ง์˜ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
11:01
It's 10 hours of productivity taken from the rest of the organization
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10์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ์ด ์†ํ•ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:04
to have this one-hour meeting, which probably should have been handled
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‘ ์„ธ ๋ช…์ด ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ
11:07
by two or three people talking for a few minutes.
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์กฐ์œจ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
11:10
But instead, there's a long scheduled meeting,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€์‹ , ์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์žก์•„๋จน๋Š” ํšŒ์˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:12
because meetings are scheduled the way software works,
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ํšŒ์˜๊ฐ€ 15๋ถ„ ๋˜๋Š” 30๋ถ„ ๋˜๋Š” ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š”
11:15
which is in increments of 15 minutes, or 30 minutes, or an hour.
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์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ผ์ •์ด ์žกํžˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:18
You don't schedule an eight-hour meeting with Outlook; you can't.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์•„์›ƒ๋ฃฉ์œผ๋กœ 8์‹œ๊ฐ„์งœ๋ฆฌ ํšŒ์˜ ์ผ์ •์„ ์žก์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์กฐ์ฐจ๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:22
You can go 15 minutes or 30 minutes or 45 minutes or an hour.
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15๋ถ„, 30๋ถ„, 45๋ถ„, 1์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:25
And so we tend to fill these times up
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์ผ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ,
11:27
when things should go really quickly.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋“ค์„ ๋‹ค ์ฑ„์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ•ญ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:29
So meetings and managers are two major problems in businesses today,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํšŒ์˜์™€ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์‚ฌ์—…์˜์—ญ์—์„œ, ํŠนํžˆ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ
๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:33
especially at offices.
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11:34
These things don't exist outside of the office.
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์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค ๋ฐ–์—์„œ๋Š” ์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:37
So I have some suggestions to remedy the situation.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ• 
๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:42
What can managers do --
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๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€,
11:44
enlightened managers, hopefully --
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๊นจ์šฐ์นœ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:46
what can they do to make the office a better place for people to work,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋” ์ข‹์€ ์žฅ์†Œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
11:49
so it's not the last resort, but it's the first resort,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ตœํ›„์˜ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ์ œ 1์˜ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์ด ๋˜๋ ค๋ฉด์š”?
11:52
so that people start to say,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:53
"When I really want to get stuff done, I go to the office."
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"์ •๋ง ์ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์›ํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค๋กœ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
11:56
Because the offices are well-equipped;
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์€ ์„ค๋น„๊ฐ€ ์ž˜ ๊ฐ–์ถฐ์ ธ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
11:58
everything is there for them to do the work.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง์›๋“ค์ด ์ผํ•˜๋„๋ก ๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:00
But they don't want to go there right now, so how do we change that?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์žฅ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณ€ํ™”์‹œํ‚ฌ๊นŒ์š”?
์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€์˜ ์ œ์•ˆ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:04
I have three suggestions to share with you.
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3๋ถ„ ์ •๋„์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋‚จ์•˜์œผ๋‹ˆ, ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋งž์•„ ๋–จ์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:06
I have about three minutes, so that'll fit perfectly.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์บ์ฃผ์–ผ ๋ณต์žฅ์˜ ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋“ค์–ด๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:09
We've all heard of the Casual Friday thing.
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12:11
I don't know if people still do that.
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์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:13
But how about "No-talk Thursdays?"
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์นจ๋ฌต์˜ ๋ชฉ์š”์ผ์€ ์–ด๋–จ๊นŒ์š”.
12:15
(Laughter)
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
12:17
Pick one Thursday once a month,
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ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ, ํ•˜๋ฃจ์˜ ๋ชฉ์š”์ผ์„ ๊ณจ๋ผ์„œ
12:20
and cut it in half, just the afternoon -- I'll make it easy for you.
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ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋ฅผ ์ ˆ ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๋ˆ ์„œ ์˜คํ›„์—๋งŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ •๋„๋ฉด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜๋„ ์ •๋ง ์‰ฝ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
12:23
So just the afternoon, one Thursday.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ์ € ์˜คํ›„, ํ•˜๋ฃจ์˜ ๋ชฉ์š”์ผ์ด์ฃ .
12:25
First Thursday of the month, just the afternoon,
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๊ทธ ๋‹ฌ์˜ ์ฒซ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ชฉ์š”์ผ, ๊ทธ์ € ์˜คํ›„๋งŒ
12:27
nobody in the office can talk to each other.
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์˜ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ์ € ์นจ๋ฌต์ด์ฃ . ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:30
Just silence, that's it.
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12:31
And what you'll find
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€
12:33
is that a tremendous amount of work gets done
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๋•Œ, ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์–‘์˜ ์ผ์ด
12:35
when no one talks to each other.
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์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง„๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:37
This is when people actually get stuff done,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋•Œ๋Š”
12:39
is when no one's bothering them or interrupting them.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ท€์ฐฎ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋•Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:41
Giving someone four hours of uninterrupted time
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ 4์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฐฉํ•ด๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
12:44
is the best gift you can give anybody at work.
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ์„ ๋ฌผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ซ์ฃ .
12:47
It's better than a computer,
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12:48
better than a new monitor, better than new software,
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์ƒˆ ๋ชจ๋‹ˆํ„ฐ๋‚˜ ์ƒˆ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด, ๋˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ
12:51
or whatever people typically use.
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์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:53
Giving them four hours of quiet time at the office
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ 4์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ์กฐ์šฉํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„
12:55
is going to be incredibly valuable.
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์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์น˜์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:57
If you try that, I think you'll agree, and hopefully you can do it more often.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹œ๋„ํ•ด ๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ๋™์˜ํ•˜์‹œ๋ฆฌ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„, ํฌ๋งˆํ•˜๊ฑด๋ฐ ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์ฃผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
13:01
So maybe it's every other week,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฒฉ์ฃผ๋ผ๋˜๊ฐ€,
13:03
or every week, once a week,
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๋งค ์ฃผ, ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ •๋„,
13:05
afternoons no one can talk to each other.
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์˜คํ›„์—๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:07
That's something that you'll find will really, really work.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ž‘๋™ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์•Œ์•„๋‚ผ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:10
Another thing you can try,
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์–ด๋ ค๋ถ„์ด ์‹œ๋„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์€
13:12
is switching from active communication and collaboration,
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1๋Œ€1 ๋Œ€๋ฉด,
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์–ด๊นจ๋ฅผ ๋‘๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ,
13:16
which is like face-to-face stuff -- tapping people on the shoulder,
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์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€
๋Šฅ๋™์ ์ธ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต๊ณผ ๊ณต๋™์ž‘์—…์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:19
saying hi to them, having meetings,
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13:21
and replace that with more passive models of communication,
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์ด๋ฉ”์ผ, ๋ฉ”์‹ ์ €, ํ˜‘์—… ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด ์ œํ’ˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ
๋ณด๋‹ค ์ˆ˜๋™์ ์ธ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์˜ ๋ชจ๋ธ๋กœ
13:24
using things like email and instant messaging,
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13:26
or collaboration products, things like that.
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๊ต์ฒดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:29
Now some people might say email is really distracting,
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์ด์ œ, ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋ฐฉํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ ,
13:32
I.M. is really distracting, and these other things are really distracting,
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๋ฉ”์‹ ์ €๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋ฐฉํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ ,
์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ •๋ง ๋ฐฉํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ,
13:36
but they're distracting at a time of your own choice and your own choosing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์„ ํƒ์— ๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž๋ฐœ์  ๋ฐฉํ•ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด๋ฉ”์ผ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์€ ์ค‘์ง€์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ƒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์ฃ .
13:40
You can quit the email app; you can't quit your boss.
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13:42
You can quit I.M.;
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๋ฉ”์‹ ์ €๋Š” ์ข…๋ฃŒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
13:44
you can't hide your manager.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋กœ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ˆจ์„ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:46
You can put these things away,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์น˜์›Œ๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
13:48
and then you can be interrupted on your own schedule, at your own time,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋งŒ์˜ ์ผ์ •์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋งŒ์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๋ฐฉํ•ด ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:51
when you're available, when you're ready to go again.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๋•Œ์—, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋  ๋•Œ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ˆ˜๋ฉด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ผ๋„ ๋‹จ๊ณ„ ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:54
Because work, like sleep, happens in phases.
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13:56
So you'll be going up, doing some work,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ƒ์Šน์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ ,
13:58
and then you'll come down from that work,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ผ์—์„œ ์ ์  ๋‚ด๋ ค์™€์„œ
14:00
and then maybe it's time to check that email or I.M.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ๊ทธ ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฉ”์‹ ์ €๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:02
There are very, very few things that are that urgent,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์žฅ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์ผ,
14:05
that need to happen, that need to be answered right this second.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ๋‹ต๋ณ€๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:08
So if you're a manager,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด,
14:09
start encouraging people to use more things like I.M. and email
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์น˜์›Œ๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ผ์ •์— ๋งž์ถฐ
14:12
and other things that someone can put away
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฉ”์‹ ์ €, ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„
14:14
and then get back to you on their own schedule.
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๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ด์šฉํ•˜๋„๋ก ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋…๋ คํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
14:16
And the last suggestion I have is that,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ œ์•ˆ์€
๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ฐธ์„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ํšŒ์˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
14:20
if you do have a meeting coming up,
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14:22
if you have the power, just cancel it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ถŒํ•œ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ทธ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ์ทจ์†Œํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ ํšŒ์˜๋„ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ทจ์†Œํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
14:25
Just cancel that next meeting.
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14:27
(Laughter)
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14:28
Today's Friday, usually people have meetings on Monday.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์ด ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ์ด์ฃ . ๋ณดํ†ต ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์›”์š”์ผ์— ํšŒ์˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
14:31
Just don't have it.
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14:32
I don't mean move it;
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์—ฐ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ž€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ,
14:33
I mean just erase it from memory, it's gone.
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๊ธฐ์–ต์—์„œ ์ง€์›Œ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์„ธ์š”. ์—†์• ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์„ธ์š”.
14:36
And you'll find out that everything will be just fine.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:39
All these discussions and decisions you thought you had to make
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์›”์š”์ผ ์•„์นจ 9์‹œ์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜
์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ํ† ์˜์™€ ๊ฒฐ์ •๋“ค์„
14:42
at this one time at 9 a.m. on Monday,
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14:43
just forget about them, and things will be fine.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋‹ค ์—ฌ์œ ์žˆ๋Š” ์•„์นจ์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
14:46
People will have a more open morning, they can actually think.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ•ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š”
14:49
You'll find out all these things you thought you had to do,
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ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:52
you don't actually have to do.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜
14:53
So those are just three quick suggestions I wanted to give you guys to think about.
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์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ œ์•ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋“ค์ด
14:57
I hope that some of these ideas were at least provocative enough
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๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค, ์ง์žฅ ์ƒ์‚ฌ๋“ค, ์‚ฌ์—…์ฃผ๋“ค, ์กฐ์ง์ž๋“ค,
15:00
for managers and bosses and business owners
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งก๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
15:02
and organizers and people who are in charge of other people,
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์กฐ๊ธˆ๋งŒ ์ •๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก
15:05
to think about laying off a little bit,
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š”
15:07
and giving people more time to get work done.
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์ตœ์†Œํ•œ์˜ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์ž๊ทน์ด ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:09
I think it'll all pay off in the end.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฆฌ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:11
So, thanks for listening.
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๋“ค์–ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
15:13
(Applause)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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